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Beck: "We're sending people out on a battlefield worried about women's rights? Are you kidding me?"

August 24, 2010 9:48 am ET

From the August 24 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by worrierking (August 24, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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      Can we still claim our standards are higher?

      We torture. We kidnap. We preach hatred.

      Worst of all is our tendency to place blame while denying responsibility.
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    • Author by dkylep (August 24, 2010 9:55 am ET)
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      Lovely. Beck is claiming to be a proponent for unlimited war.

      And who's the moron babbling about how American standards of fighting a war are the highest of any nation in history? The reason you don't get credit for that is because it's a crock of shi!t. Go tell the Contras or the Sandinistas about how high American standards are. Or better yet, tell the people they butchered. Or how about you wander around Mai Lai and the rest of Vietnam preaching about how high American standards of war are. Or perhaps you can visit Abu-Gharib in Iraq and tell those people that American standards are high.

      American standards of fighting wars and treatment of enemies is abysmal compared to countries that don't rely on violence and conflict to carve out their niche in the world.
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      • Author by MickD (August 24, 2010 10:16 am ET)
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        War is all hell, as Sherman said, and Americans are participants in providing that hell. Screw you, Beckerwood.
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        • Author by shaggles (August 24, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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          I would say too many of us are blissfully ignorant of how hellish war can be and how great a hand we as a nation have in spreading misery via that instrument. I blame the news media and the govt both for hiding the truth. During the Vietnam War the nightly news was filled with gruesome footage showing the horrors of war. After that the news media (with a lot of prodding from the govt) decided not to show that sort footage. It got to the point where they wouldn't even show the coffins of our soldiers. Some free press we have.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 24, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
               
            I remember the coffins coming home in the bellies of planes during the Vietnam War, rows and rows of them. I think that a disservice was done when GWB decided that the nation did not need to see the bodies of our fallen troops included in news reports.

            You're right. People have distanced themselves from the horrors of war, and most of those advocating for more wars have no idea of the horrors involved. I believe it was the rows and rows of coffins in the bellies of those planes that made the war real to Americans and fueled the anti-war movement. I really believe that had Americans not seen the coffins or had such good reporters like Murrow and Cronkite, we would have been in Vietnam for a longer period of time.
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            • Author by John Paradox (August 24, 2010 8:54 pm ET)
                 
              You're right. People have distanced themselves from the horrors of war, and most of those advocating for more wars have no idea of the horrors involved.


              Once again, the 'predictions' of Science Fiction are coming true, for anyone who saw/remembers the Star Trek (TOS) episode A Taste of Armageddon.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (August 24, 2010 10:39 am ET)
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        ...after we nuked them, ahem, our treatment of post war Japan was exemplary, as was our treatment of Germany. We had our own interests in mind of course, the Marshal Plan helped with the cleanup and provided an economic barrier against communism in post-war Western Europe.

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    • Author by epkklk851 (August 24, 2010 9:56 am ET)
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      Our standards for rights are higher than anybody, and they got that way because people were willing to go to great length to protect them. That includes sending people to check up on women's rights on the battlefield. You should be applauding that rather than running it down. And if you guys are so hep to unleash hell, why didn't you ever find the time to actually serve? Why don't you guys take your yak fest out to the front line troops, if you can't be bothered to put on the uniform for real. Too chicken, I bet.
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      • Author by worrierking (August 24, 2010 10:00 am ET)
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        The bravest Americans in the 21st Century seem to be the TV & radio generals, who shill for war having never had the pleasure of seeing it up close.

        "It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation."

        - William Tecumseh Sherman
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        • Author by epkklk851 (August 24, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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          I haven't like loud noises and guns since I was a kid. I do not have what it takes to make it across a battlefield. I can't figure how anyone can. But, I've also been a pacifist since before I even knew what the word meant. I dread sending anyone to war. "The saddest thing next to a battle lost, is a battle won." The Duke of Wellington.
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    • Author by achorn316 (August 24, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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      Our standards are much higher? Really?

      Go ask the people in the secret CIA prisons. (If you can hear them over the screams, of course). Or the people at Guantanamo Bay. Or all of the people killed while in U.S. custody.

      Oh wait.. you can't ask any of them. Better to just lie then. After all Mr. Beck, its what you do best.
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    • Author by Porkeater (August 24, 2010 10:25 am ET)
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      In theory, US standards are higher, but only in theory. In practice, we are as unfair and murderous as anybody.

      For every dozen US soldiers who are models of honor, there are one or two who are war criminals.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (August 24, 2010 10:55 am ET)
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        . . .also, it is sort of like sports teams, every team has its "enforcer," a person who is unusually angry or violent, or even psychotic, and he is used to his potential.

        The rest of the unit is average good people,

        General Lee after Fredericksburg said, "it is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it."
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 24, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
         
      The right is engaged in a slash and burn political campaign that places our troops in greater danger. They have totally ignored the fact that our troops are in Muslim-majority nations while they are $**tt*ng all over the Constitution and everyone they hate or mistrust. I am very angry about this because I never wanted our country in Iraq, and I wanted limited intervention in Afghanistan that was focused on eliminating/marginalizing bin Laden and al Qaeda. I don't want our troops operating in Pakistan. The entire region is a powder keg that could be the source of WW III, but those leading the right view it as a game. Neither troop nor civilian deaths should be a part of any game. The sanctity of all life should never be dismissed with such a cavalier attitude. Never.

      I don't want to hear another word from these political and economic profiteers about how "patriotic" they are. If they revered the Founding Fathers like they say they do, they'd take the advice Washington included in his second inauguration speech: do not get involved in the affairs of other nations.

      IMHO, they are directly responsible for the recent terrorist surge in Northern Afghanistan. Selfish b**c**s.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 24, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
         
      who is " we ". I don't recall Chief justice Roberts blessing your governance .
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 24, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
         
      who is " we ". I don't recall Chief justice Roberts blessing your governance .
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