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Beck introduces the new "Black Robe Regiment"

August 28, 2010 1:12 pm ET

From C-SPAN's coverage of Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally:

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    • Author by indigo1968 (August 28, 2010 1:15 pm ET)
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      So are Beck's Black Robes like the Brown Shirts?
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    • Author by dmhack (August 28, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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      Look! Middle aged white people!
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      • Author by dkylep (August 28, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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        Middle aged, ignorant, jackbooted white people!
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        • Author by jjamele2880 (August 28, 2010 1:54 pm ET)
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          The horrible thing is, there were plenty of slack-jawed yokels who looked like teenagers and twentysomethings. I just came back from this sad disaster- I thought it would be fun, but it was just depressing to see so much rank ignorance in one place.

          I saw a young black woman near the Washington Monument respond to a 20-ish white man wearing a NOBAMA t-shirt with a simple "I love you." The young man acted as if she had shoved a needle into his side, spinning around and yelling "Nice line, but I'd start with 'you wanna have dinner first?" The girl just kept walking; the knuckle-dragging losers with the young white man naturally thought that he was just hil-ARIOUS with his "comeback."

          Sad. Just really, really sad.
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        • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (August 30, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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          Is that remark evidence of bigotry, ignorance or both?
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    • Author by draftedin68 (August 28, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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      WTF?

      So Beck claims that "England hated the preachers"?

      Hmmm...

      If that's true, maybe Beck can explain why it was that colonists were forced to pay a "religion tax" to support Anglican churches in the colonies.

      True to his faith, Beck has never met a historical fact he can't change.

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      • Author by null1fy (August 30, 2010 11:20 pm ET)
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        Are you talking about the colonies before or after the revolutionary war?

        Time to get some facts straight.
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    • Author by Winski (August 28, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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      It never ceases to amaze me how some folks can just be led around by the bottom lip until they are intentionally thrown off a bridge. beck must have some apricot jam on his fingers or something... astounding....
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    • Author by dwbat (August 28, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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      And for the first time in my relatively short life I can honestly say that I am terrified...
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      • Author by indigo1968 (August 28, 2010 6:26 pm ET)
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        I'm not. Y'know why?

        Because 72 hours from now Beck's little tribute to "Triumph of The Will" will be all but forgotten. The American public's attention span is amazingly brief when it comes to most events. Look at the Gulf oil spill for example; outside of the region, it's already become a distant memory.

        And eventually, Beck will be too.

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        • Author by dwbat (August 29, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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          I certainly hope you're right, for the sake of my sanity! As long as I stop having Glenn Beck themed nightmares....

          believe me, they are terrifying
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    • Author by DixieChyc (August 28, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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      So you are already twisting the reality here at MMFA? LOL! Nothing you say can ruin the truth. It was an awesome rally and a real joy to interact with over 133,000 on Facebook - even the few who logged on to spread hate.
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      • Author by leftofwhat (August 28, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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        That was a separate reality and Facebook is for teenagers.
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (August 28, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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        I was there. I thought it was depressing. A mass of white people wearing "patriotic" t shirts and listening with their mouths half-open at their Lord, Savior and Financial Advisor, Glenn Beck. It was just a burning cross short of a Klan rally, a tub of kool-aid short of being a mass cult gathering. This crowd of racist morons didn't need affirmation; they need to get a clue and get over the fact that a black guy is in the White House.

        America's honor doesn't need Restoring. These people couldn't restore honor even if they knew what it meant or could spell it. The good news is, even as I type the vast majority of them are hauling their overfed backsides back to whatever ignorant hamlet they came from.
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        • Author by indigo1968 (August 28, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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          Right. Because nothing sez "patriotism" like a $9.99 star-spangled t-shirt purchased at Wal-Mart but manufactured in China.

          Thanks for your two cents.
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        • Author by John Paradox (August 29, 2010 12:08 am ET)
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          A mass of white people wearing "patriotic" t shirts and listening with their mouths half-open


          Is 'mouth breathers' now Politically Incorrect?
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        • Author by LagalLeft (August 29, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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          Very well said. You are so on the money.
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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 28, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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        So you are already twisting the reality here at MMFA? LOL! Nothing you say can ruin the truth. It was an awesome rally and a real joy to interact with over 133,000 on Facebook - even the few who logged on to spread hate.

        It DISHONORABLE and INSULTING that a man who called the first African American president a racist and mocked the president and his daughters with racists language lead a rally of White folks on the anniversary of the greatest civil rights speech in history.

        And don't bother telling me there were "Black folks" in the crowd. It's like the Republican convention, if the camera pans over the same group of Black folks over and over again, the number is still only 15 Black folks.

        It's good to know you folks had such a good time mocking what Dr. King and others fought and died for. But unlike this joke of a rally, the folks who heard the REAL speech on civil rights were not there to have a "good time". Folks who heard the REAL speech on civil rights didn't go home and "interact" on "Facebook". Those folks went back home to continue the fight for REAL EQUALITY and JUSTICE!

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        • Author by mescal (August 29, 2010 2:44 am ET)
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          In the end, Pearline, this disgraceful display was far less inspired by Dr. King's truly moving and truly historical event of 1963 than it was by the Nuremberg rallies of the 1930s.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (August 30, 2010 3:59 am ET)
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        You think 130,000 is a few?
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    • Author by mjh (August 28, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
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      Beck introduces the new "Black Robe Regiment"


      Hey! I found an official portrait of one of their members!

      [http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00139/klu_klux_klan_139321s.jpg]
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      • Author by John Paradox (August 29, 2010 12:09 am ET)
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        Dang... only one minute difference between your photo and mine [above]
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    • Author by onementalgiant (August 28, 2010 7:35 pm ET)
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      As I've said before, as shown on race related thread after thread here on the MMFA message board, Obama has, in less then two years, moved race relations back decades.

      He should have spoke up and said people have a right to criticize him as President, just like any other president, instead of allowing the thoughts that criticism of him is based on his race. Never has been about his race but he's allowed the misperception to grow into where we are today of race being on everyone's mind.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
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        Never has been about his race? That's news to me. Most of what I've heard from Faux Cons has been racially motivated. They have no policy disagreements with him, so it can't be about how he governs. What's left? Are they mad because he's left-handed? Well, we've had left-handed presidents before, haven't we, and nobody claimed the U.S. was in danger of ending, as Fox Propaganda says almost every day.

        So, if it's not about his race, onementalgiant, just what IS it about?
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        • Author by onementalgiant (August 28, 2010 8:44 pm ET)
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          "Never has been about his race? That's news to me. Most of what I've heard from Faux Cons has been racially motivated. They have no policy disagreements with him, so it can't be about how he governs. What's left?"

          WTF? Are you serious? No policy disagreements? The reporting of policy disagreements on FOX and anywhere else is precisely what happens. It is folks like you who twist what they report into somehow being related to his race. For some reason you won't allow anyone to ctiyisize Obama simply because he is our president. Oh no, you can't have that! Critisism of him must be due to the color of his skin. If it weren't so pathetic it would almost be comical how far liberals have spun any disagreements with Obama's decisions being due to his race. And to make it worse, the continual playing of the race card had drastically diminshed the effectiveness of discrimination issues when it is liget.

          Liberals will eventually see how much damage Obama has done to our Country.
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 28, 2010 11:46 pm ET)
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            All that worthless bluster and you still haven't produced one policy that you disagree with. So, it's not about policy, is it? It's about race. They, and you apparently, try to cover that up with bullspit, but what they're covering is a dislike of the black man in the White House. Period.

            Fox Propaganda has no policy disagreements with President Obama. I should amend my statement thusly, I suppose: Fox Propaganda has no legitimate policy disagreements with President Obama. They have a lot of complaints about rampant and non-existent socialism, but socialism isn't really happening in this country. I'm sorry if you 'feel' that it is happening, but it's simply not. We are not a socialist country any more than we are a Christian country, despite what Fox says. While mixing religion and politics is frowned on in the Constitution, there are no such restrictions as regards economic policy. I've read it.

            Obama has tried to repair the damage done to this country, both within the borders of this country and on the international stage. Damage caused by George W. Bush. He made us into a nation known for torturing those within it's power.
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            • Author by null1fy (August 30, 2010 11:28 pm ET)
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              So I take it you consider a disagreement 'legitimate' or not. That is very subjective, and your statement "what they're covering is a dislike of the black man in the White House. Period." Is just more smoke and mirrors for your left lies.

              So you basically decide that all right-wing'ers are racist and that any disagreement is illegitimate?

              We are a Christian country, like it or not. Look at the (rightly) devotion to Mary for even your precious Mexican immigrants. You are in the minority, my friend. I hope that the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ fills your heart for both of our sakes.
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      • Author by MidnightWriter (August 28, 2010 9:16 pm ET)
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        So, omg, is it igneous, sedimentary, or metamorphic?

        I'm asking, of course, about the rock you've been living under for the last two years or so because I figure that's about the only place you possible could be given that you figure Obama is the one who has been setting back race relations.

        Keep in mind that you chosen to share this ridiculous idea on a website that keeps tabs on the even more ridiculous ideas being pushed out by a host of far right voices on radio, in print, on television, and, in some cases, in elected offices. We have heard varying degrees of warning howls concerning his birth certificate, his education in Indonesia, his alleged connection to ACORN, his alleged connection to the New Black Panthers, his alleged status as a stealth Muslim, the alleged status of his wife being a stealth black militant, the so called radical message from his former pastor, that he is a racists that hates whites, that he is a racists that hate Jews, that he has a secret plan to funnel untold thousands of Hispanics into the country and grant them citizenship, that he has a secret plan to give African American reparations for slavery, that he was only elected because he was a "token," that he was only elected because of "white man's guilt."

        You've certainly heard these things. They've certainly pushed back race relations. So, I've got to ask you, just who is responsible for these messages? Are you willing to admit these are ugly lies that have been artificially inserted into every political issue at every opportunity regardless of the matter by those who have allowed their hate to reign over reason, or will you stubbornly and stupidly continue point the blame at Obama?
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        • Author by leftofwhat (August 28, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
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          Agreed.When omg posts,it sounds like every right wing talking point.Liberals will destroy things,we are on the wrong track etc..
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      • Author by mjh (August 29, 2010 3:15 am ET)
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        "As I've said before, as shown on race related thread after thread here on the MMFA message board, Obama has, in less then two years, moved race relations back decades." -- onementalmidget



        That's right.

        How DARE he obtain a quality education, serve a minority community in Chicago, then run for the Senate and the nation's highest elective office!!

        Why, that's like starting a race riot or lynching!


        "He should have spoke up and said people have a right to criticize him as President, just like any other president, instead of allowing the thoughts that criticism of him is based on his race. Never has been about his race but he's allowed the misperception to grow into where we are today of race being on everyone's mind." -- onementalmidget



        Funny how the same person who, according to Rush Limpballs, is an "incompetent man-child", is the same person who has so much control over so many minds . . .


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        • Author by buddtee (August 29, 2010 10:44 am ET)
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          Hey wait a second wasn't it these same jerk off who used to say to criticize the president was tantalum to treason .

          Any time you disagree with Bush on just about any issues but especially on any foreign policy issues .They used to say we you empowering the terrorist and it was tantamount to treason .

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 29, 2010 7:16 am ET)
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        Obama has, in less then two years, moved race relations back decades.

        You right-wing loonies OWN this racial climate you've created, and you don't get to pass this sh*t off on President Obama OR the Democratic party.

        From the moment candidate Obama decided to run for the presidency, the right has waged a "southern strategy" campaign of fear and racism.

        June 02, 2008 Limbaugh on Obama: His "only chance of winning is that he's black"

        LIMBAUGH: Hey, Barack Obama has picked up another endorsement: Halfrican American actress Halle Berry. "As a Halfrican American, I am honored to have Ms. Berry's support, as well as the support of other Halfrican Americans," Obama said.
        He didn't say it, but -- anyway, there are those out there -- greetings.


        And let's not leave out good old Master Pat Buchanan:

        November 27, 2007 "How is America committing suicide?" answering: "Every way a nation can." He proceeds to claim that "[t]he American majority is not reproducing itself. ... Forty-five million of its young have been destroyed in the womb since Roe v. Wade, as Asian, African, and Latin American children come to inherit the estate the lost generation of American children never got to see."

        OR

        Bobby May, treasurer of Virginia's Buchanan County Republican Party, wrote a column for the Virginia newspaper The Voice in which he lampooned the platform of "Barack Hussein Obama." May wrote that Obama would "[h]ire rapper Ludacris to 'paint [the White House] black' " if he won the presidency.

        OR

        Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA) called Barack and Michelle Obama "uppity" while answering questions with reporters on September 4. Soraghan wrote: " 'Just from what little I've seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they're a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they're uppity,' Westmoreland said. Asked to clarify that he used the word 'uppity,' Westmoreland said, 'Uppity, yeah.' "

        OR

        Rep. Steve King (R-IA) to a Spencer, Iowa, radio station and published in a March 8 article in Spencer's Daily Reporter: "I will tell you that, if [Obama] is elected president, then the radical Islamists, the al-Qaida, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on September 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror

        OR

        Imus in the Morning, McGuirk, performing as his character "Cardinal Egan," said that "the whole nation is talking about" reports of a "young colored fellah pretty much deckin' the old bag from New York and takin' away some of her money." McGuirk continued: "I'm speaking, of course, about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton."

        And on the day Obama became President what policy did fat a** Limbo have to criticize?

        Limbaugh on Obama: "We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black"

        And save your "context" bull sh*t, because there was NO need to mention President Obama's race period!

        And it continues:

        Limbaugh: Food safety advocates "going to go after Oreos" but might have to wait until Obama leaves office

        And NOTHING scares White folks more than the word "reparations", so what does Mormon boy Glenda say?

        Beck said: "Everything that is getting pushed through Congress, including this health care bill, are transforming America, and they are all driven by President Obama's thinking on one idea: reparations."

        The right wing has a history of using race and fear. Does the prison ad featuring Willie Horton, or the Jessie Helms hands ad ring a bell?

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        • Author by princeofwheels (August 29, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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          Pearlene,
          Nice to hear from you.

          I think you may have send one mental something back to the Limbaugh/Fox archives to challenge your well tuned response.
          In fact, when, or if, he prepares a rebuttal, it will include desparate attempts to prove his point. For example, Rush was kidding or those Reps were misquoted or everything that MMFA prints is out of context.

          ONEsomething, you lost, find another post. Go to Freeperville, you'll be just the average boob over there
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 29, 2010 5:23 pm ET)
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            Thanks POW

            I spent more years than I care to count hearing I'm too sensitive or I've got a chip on my should because of my race, but facts don't lie, no matter how bad onesmallgnat wants them to.
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        • Author by dwbat (August 29, 2010 10:48 am ET)
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          And the list goes on...
          and on...
          and on...
          and on..
          and you should get the point by now
          and on..
          ...
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        • Author by onementalgiant (August 29, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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          "so what does Mormon boy Glenda say?"

          Goofed up and showed some closet bigotry against a religion here, didn't you pearl? Better not let this stuff creep out. This is better left inside your own thoughts. It diminishes your assertion that the Right are the bigots.

          Oh, and you forgot to include these in your list: Harry Reid said Obama can speak a "Negro dialect" whenever he wants, or Biden said Obama will have a chance of winning the presidency because he's a "light skinned black", and Dan Rather said Obama is so inept he couldn't sell "watermelons in Texas with a gun" (all paraphrased but accurate).

          And we both know which Party was against the Civil Rights Act back in the 60's (hint: their icon is a jackass)

          Anyway, we could trade stupid statements by both sides all day long, but the bigger picture, that the Left just refuses to accept, is any American citizen has the right to question and criticize our President regardless of his skin color. This has been going on since George Washington.

          In case you STILL don't get it: It is his policies and decisions that trouble us. Not his race.
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          • Author by rikntx (August 29, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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            You're not real bright are you?
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            • Author by onementalgiant (August 29, 2010 12:59 pm ET)
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              Wow! What a great post rikntix! How long did you work on it?

              BTW, your screen ID picture reminds me of a cartoon character but I can't remember which one. Let me know who it is. Thanks.
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 29, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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            And we both know which Party was against the Civil Rights Act back in the 60's


            Yes, and as soon as the Civil Rights Act passed, what happened to those Dixiecrats? Why, they were welcomed with open arms into the Republican Party. You keep getting taught actual history here, and you keep not getting it, don't you?

            If you're going to quote, then quote. Don't paraphrase. Simple enough, eh?

            Anyway, we could trade stupid statements by both sides all day long...


            Yes, but the right would run out long before the left ever did.

            but the bigger picture, that the Left just refuses to accept, is any American citizen has the right to question and criticize our President regardless of his skin color.


            Really? Even a 'war time' President? Are you SURE about that? Because Fox Propaganda and the rest of the mainstream conservative media would have violently disagreed with you just eight short years ago. Single biggest day of protests the world has seen during the 21st century so far? Against the illegal invasion of Iraq by the U.S. How was it covered, when it was covered? Those who protested were called traitors, terrorist sympathizers, and worse.

            If his policies trouble you so much, why do I never, ever hear about any of them? Still can't find one? An actual one, I mean, that bears some semblance to reality. Don't give me some Fox Propaganda bullcrap about socialism, because that's cowboy is all hat.
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            • Author by onementalgiant (August 29, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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              Here we have Cat spouting revisionist history. None of the stuff you posted is actually true. If you want to believe your crap, fine by me (and, BTW, the vast majority agrees with me). Go ahead and keep your head buried in blissful ignorance. Meanwhile, the rest of us will go ahead and believe actual historical events.

              Oh, and as to Obama's specific policies and decisions: Every one of his decisions has turned to crap, just as me and millions of others predicted. Obamacare, TARP, illegal immigration, allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire, freezing SS for two years (first time in history), filing suit against AZ on a law completely legitimate and exactly the same as a Federal Law, NOT prosecuting those who exhibited obvious voter intimidation, sucking up to Muslims while ignoring Christians, hiring about 50 Carzs who do not need to be approved by the Senate yet carry about the same authority of Cabinet members (sneaky), nominating a leftist bigoted judge for the Supreme court plus another with no judicial experience, how he handled the BP Gulf oil mess, and basically breaking all of his campaign promises. While we're on it, he also is on vacation about half the time. And his wife is spending millions of our money on junkets with a staff of 30 to take care of her "needs" like nail trims and hairdos. The single biggest issue with Obama is he should be telling his Party to back off of those who criticize him when his Party asserts the criticism is because of his race. You do know millions of whites voted for him, don't you?
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              • Author by The_Cat (August 29, 2010 4:51 pm ET)
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                So, you're actually claiming that the Dixiecrats who voted against the Civil Rights Act DIDN'T change from Democrats to Republicans once that law had passed? Really? Which planet do you get your history from, onementalgiant? Because, what I said is exactly what happened. They were conservative southern Democrats, and they immediately switched to the Republican Party once Civil Rights passed. Nothing revisionist about the truth, I'm afraid.

                Every one of his decisions has turned to crap, just as me and millions of others predicted.


                You and Faux Cons like you (Limbaugh springs to mind) hoped for his failure. Sadly for you, good for the country, that has not happened yet. Let's look at a few of these, shall we?

                Obamacare,...


                ... doesn't exist. Health Care Reform was passed, but it should have included a government option to compete with private insurance.

                ...TARP,...


                ... was signed into law under George W. Bush. Why do you keep blaming him?

                ...illegal immigration,...


                Deportation is up, not down, since Bush/Cheney & Co. Since Obama is deporting MORE undocumented workers and not fewer, how is this a failure? And please oh please don't tell me what you THINK he WANTS to do. No fantasies, okay?

                ... allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire,...


                Hasn't happened yet. Even if it does, that expiration was written into the tax cuts by the Republicans and, you guessed it, signed into law by George W. Bush. Why do you keep blaming him?

                ...freezing SS for two years (first time in history),...


                A spending freeze was part of Obama's 2011 budget. It's an effort to reduce deficits. Thought you Faux Cons pretended to be in favor of that. Also, can't find any info that Social Security or Medicare benefits were frozen. Do you have proof of your assertion?

                ...filing suit against AZ on a law completely legitimate and exactly the same as a Federal Law,...


                It is not completely legitimate for Arizona to abrogate to itself powers reserved for the federal government. That's just basic Constitutional Law, onementalgiant. Besides which, the law itself was deeply flawed, and wide open to abuse. Further, many groups and individuals have filed suit against SB1070, and a federal judge issued an order preventing the most egregious portions of it from going into effect. How is any of this Obama's fault again?

                ...NOT prosecuting those who exhibited obvious voter intimidation,...


                That, once more, was the failure of Bush/Cheney & Co. They're the ones who let this go, not only for lack of evidence but for lack of complaining witnesses! Why do you keep blaming Bush for everything?

                ...sucking up to Muslims while ignoring Christians,...


                A personal opinion without a shred of evidence to support it. Bush also did a lot of outreach to the Muslim community, both here in America and abroad. Were you as critical of him?

                ...hiring about 50 Carzs who do not need to be approved by the Senate yet carry about the same authority of Cabinet members (sneaky),...


                It would be sneaky, if it were true. The 'czars' have been around since Nixon appointed the very first two, and do not have Cabinet Member authority. Besides this, Bush appointed more czars than Obama has! Again, where was the poutrage?

                ...nominating a leftist bigoted judge for the Supreme court plus another with no judicial experience,...


                The Senate confirmed both appointments, and so I will defer to that august body rather than your petulant rantings. I suspect they know more about the candidates in question than you do. You have no evidence to support the 'bigot' claim, either, but that's almost beside the point.

                ...how he handled the BP Gulf oil mess,...


                Did you want him to put on a wetsuit and try fixing it himself? It was BP's responsibility to have a plan in place in case something went wrong. Something went wrong, and their plan was exposed for the flim-flammery that it obviously was. Obama made private industry clean up their own mess, as he should have done, and also had Coast Guard on hand, both to rescue workers and to help with clean up. He did more for the BP oil spill than Bush did for New Orleans, onementalgiant.

                The single biggest issue with Obama is he should be telling his Party to back off of those who criticize him when his Party asserts the criticism is because of his race.


                As I've just shown, most of the 'arguments' you've just listed are epic fails, and obviously not genuine concerns. This leads me to believe that the only explanation left is that he is a black man in the White House. I do know millions of whites voted for him. I even know some of them personally. And your point is?
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                • Author by onementalgiant (August 29, 2010 5:38 pm ET)
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                  You have your opinion and I have mine. Last time I checked this is allowed.
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                  • Author by The_Cat (August 29, 2010 6:08 pm ET)
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                    You are indeed entitled to your own opinions, onementalgiant. However, you are not entitled to your own facts. Face facts, and admit that your 'arguments' have no basis in objective reality. TARP? Really? C'mon!
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                    • Author by mescal (August 30, 2010 2:00 am ET)
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                      When onementalgnat says that he is allowed his own opinion, Cat, he means it as most wingers do: that he is entitled to his own REALITY... a reality that free from the progressive tyranny of objective facts.

                      It's socialistic oppressors like you who so ruthlessly insist on denying him of his God given right to unchallenged political dementia by forcing your unwanted facts down his throat and denigrating the ignorance upon which his opinions are formed.

                      Maoist!

                      ;0)
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                • Author by John Paradox (August 30, 2010 1:51 am ET)
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                  Bush also did a lot of outreach to the Muslim community, both here in America and abroad.


                  Just one example
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              • Author by grmce (August 30, 2010 10:09 am ET)
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                (and, BTW, the vast majority agrees with me)
                Vast majority of what?

                Take a look outside of your cosy little imagination and find out what the real world thinks. Try reading a few knowledgeable authorities on subjects such as economics, the law and foreign affairs rather than the comfort of demagogues spouting self serving nonsense - in short, get a proper education. One where you formulate your own beliefs by challenging them and having them challenged.

                If you were to look to the outside world you might find the "the majority" (and I'll limit myself to the friends of the U.S.) are shaking their heads in sad disbelief at the arrant stupidity that passes for public discourse amongst the noisy right and their obsequious followers.
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 29, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
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            Goofed up and showed some closet bigotry against a religion here, didn't you pearl? Better not let this stuff creep out. This is better left inside your own thoughts. It diminishes your assertion that the Right are the bigots.

            Goofed up? NO! And considering the Mormons Presidents and Prophets comments on African Americans, calling Glenda Mormon boy was a mild insult. An intended insult, but a mild one.

            (all paraphrased but accurate).

            IF Harry Reid's comment was racist, you would have heard African Americans screaming from the roof top, but you didn't because what Reid said was true.

            Historically "lighter" skinned African Americans have had an easier time with White folks than darker skinned African Americans. It goes back to the days of passing. And in case you lack African American history, that was the time when "light" skinned African Americans passed as White in order to have a easier life.

            And the "Negro dialect"? Once again, history that shouldn't need an explanation.

            And we both know which Party was against the Civil Rights Act back in the 60's (hint: their icon is a jackass)


            I'm sooo tired of this ONE pathetic claim while completely ignoring what became of the Republican party AFTER the passage of the civil rights bill.

            Where did those racists Dixicrats find a home AFTER the passage of the civil rights bill? Does the name Strum Thurmond, Jessie Helms ring a bell?

            In the words of Lee Atwater discussing politics in the South:

            You start out in 1954 by saying, "ni**er, ni**er, ni**er." By 1968 you can't say "ni**er"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
            And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "ni**er, ni**er".


            Ken Mehlman said the following in 2005: "Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions," and, "by the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes...

            Like I said before, YOU folks on the right OWN this racial climate YOU created.

            And IF you stuck to ONLY complaining about President Obama's policies INSTEAD of his race, we wouldn't be having this discussion!
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            • Author by onementalgiant (August 29, 2010 6:05 pm ET)
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              OK. I understand pearl. It is perfectly fine for you to insult Mormons because you say so. (BTW the Mormons were the best responders to Katrina with time and money.) Yet I get labeled a racist and bigot because I don't think a mosque should be built near Ground Zero. And the Harry Ried comment you endorse as acceptable would have been slammed as racist if a republican had said it. You may not admit to this, but less objectionable things have been said by a conservative who then had to apologize or forced to resign. Heck, Jimmy the Greek was fired simply because he said blacks are born with better body strength. And I can't believe you accept, simply because he's a liberal, Joe Biden saying Obama has a chance of winning because of his light skin color. One last thing, after us Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act, and all the southern democrats supposedly switched to republicans, did all the southern republicans' switch to democrats? Or did we end up with all republicans?

              One other last thing, I have never complained about Obama's race. Never! You can look at all of my past posts if you want for proof.
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              • Author by mescal (August 30, 2010 2:39 am ET)
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                1) You got 'labeled' a bigot, gnatty, because you seek to deny Muslims the same religious rights that the 1st Amendment guarantees ALL people in this country. You and your bigoted brothers seek to establish a Muslim-free zone in Manhattan, and to focus suspicion, hatred, and second class citizenship on those that you wish to label and isolate as the Other.

                2)Jimmy the Greek didn't just say that blacks were "born with better body strength." He claimed that African American athletes were naturally superior owing to the selective breeding that occurred on slave plantations. The quote was "The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way - because of his big thighs and high thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. This goes back all the way to the Civil War when during slave trading, the owner, the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have his big black kid." Historically, this was and still is utter nonsense, and CBS decided that they were better off not having an ignoramus hosting their highly rated pregame show.

                3) Taking a page directly out of the Doosh Limpballs and Glenn Dreck playbook, you've chosen to only partially and quite wrongly paraphrase both Vice President Biden and Senator Reid in order to falsely portray them as racists.

                4) Your 'Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act' meme has been debunked and dispatched with many many times already on this board, and is hardly worth the effort that it takes to again type it. I'll just add that it ignores the reality that this act was championed and shepherded by Democratic Presidents JFK and... in particular... LBJ, and would have gone no where without Johnson's particularly relentless insistence and political arm twisting.
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                • Author by onementalgiant (August 31, 2010 1:19 am ET)
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                  I'll respond to your post in the same order mescal:

                  1) I have never said Muslims do not have the RIGHT to build the mosque. I said I don't think a mosque SHOULD be built near ground Zero. There is a difference. Why can't liberals understand this difference?

                  2) Is your assertion that Jimmy was fired because CBS thought he was an "ignoramus" your opinion, or do you have something to back up your claim?

                  3) If you wanna accept the Negro and color statements made by Ried and Biden as OK, fine with me. Just watch your sanctimonious crap towards me.

                  4) Yeah, I know, LBJ was against it before he was for it (Civil Rights Act).

                  Won't be long before you revisionist lefties will have yourselves convinced Lincoln was a Democrat who freed the slaves.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 31, 2010 1:05 am ET)
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                And the Harry Ried comment you endorse as acceptable would have been slammed as racist if a republican had said it

                Mehlman, RNC Chairman, ADMITTED that Republicans have ignored African American voters AND have campaigned by exploiting racial tensions!

                WHAT more is there to say?

                History tells the story, that years ago the majority of African Americans were Republicans. It wasn't until after FDR's "New Deal" that African Americans started leaving the Republican party and joining the Democratic party. And the Republican party faced with a much smaller party started courting voter they never had a chance with before, SOUTHERN WHITE RACIST DEMOCRATS!

                I have NO problem admitting that the OLD Democratic party was full of racist White southerners. I have not problem admitting that the OLD Democratic party has to be sued in order for them to admit African Americans.

                But those same racists White southerners LEFT the Democratic party BECAUSE African Americans were joining. And when they left the Democratic party, they joined the Republican party.

                Both Harry Reid and Joe Biden have a RECORD of supporting civil rights and African Americans. I can't name ONE current White Republican who could match their record.

                The Republican party currently has ZERO African American members of Congress! NOT ONE! And the sad part is the list of the former members, J.C. Watts, Gary Franks, Edward William Brooke III is pretty d*mn small.

                WHAT do YOU think that tells African Americans about the Republican party?

                I've said it before, the right created this climate of racial tension because that's the way the right campaigns!
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          • Author by GreenLantern (August 29, 2010 9:44 pm ET)
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            OMG! That is your rebuttal to all those FACTS?
            You (1mentl-huh?) defend "glen the indefensible - beck"?

            Then you bring many fewer examples of much less (in my opinion) offensive statements by democrats that actually PALE in comparison to the statements and facts above by pearlene_scott1602. It is obvious her quotes are trying to push a hateful agenda, but all but one of the actual democratic quotes were single statements. (Not pushing a hate-wing agenda)

            And don't you have a "choice" in your religion? (ugh!!! hard to use "bigotry" to that as an example!)

            Oh, and don't forget to bring something up from long before we were born to define something completely different today!

            Oh, and guess what? This is our first black president since George Washington......DUH!
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            • Author by GreenLantern (August 29, 2010 10:00 pm ET)
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              Oh, yeah, and back to the thread. faux and beck terrify me.
              "Black Robes" just so easily bring up the "brown shirts" or "inquisition" inferences that I get chills up my spine!
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          • Author by raddave43 (August 30, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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            And we both know which Party was against the Civil Rights Act back in the 60's (hint: their icon is a jackass)

            The civil rights act of 1964 was written an introduced to congress by a Democrat. 19 southern democrats an 1 southern Republicon tried to block its passage, BTW there was only 1 southern republicon in the Senate at the time.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (August 30, 2010 4:02 am ET)
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        "He should have spoke up and said people have a right to criticize him as President, just like any other president, instead of allowing the thoughts that criticism of him is based on his race. Never has been about his race but he's allowed the misperception to grow into where we are today of race being on everyone's mind. "

        Yeah, Beck is a jerk for always bringing race into the issue.
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      • Author by union (August 31, 2010 12:57 am ET)
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        I think it's Beck and the right who have moved this country backwards on race several decades. Heck, they can do that in one day. They did.
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    • Author by clearstate (August 29, 2010 2:38 am ET)
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      Does this mean that Beck is going to have his own personal army?
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    • Author by LagalLeft (August 29, 2010 3:19 pm ET)
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      Wait a minute. A while back back, Beck told his sheeple to ''run away from churches that preached social justice. How can you spew bigotry and fear five days a week and come out on the sixth day and invoke God and that same''justice?'' This guy is dangerously insane. So are the biased and ignorant ''patriots'' who hang on his every word.
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    • Author by LagalLeft (August 29, 2010 3:28 pm ET)
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      Black Robe Regiment? Egads! Did the KKK approve of switching to black robes? Besides, Sharron Wrong Angle specifically said that black was evil. Didn't Beck get the memo from that voice in his head?
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    • Author by grmce (August 30, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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      I recall a film, several years ago, called "The Black Robe". It was set in Colonial America.

      It was about French Jesuit missionaries amongst the Iroquois.

      Is that what Mr Beck had in mind? Or was it Mussolini's Blackshirts or maybe Mosely's ...?
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      • Author by union (August 31, 2010 1:54 am ET)
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        I had a horrified thought that he was trying to dream up something to replace the Supreme Court. :(
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