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Juan Williams on Beck: "Wow, I'm amazed that people follow this guy"

August 29, 2010 2:45 pm ET

From the August 29 edition of the Panel Plus online portion of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (August 29, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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      me too, but then again Jay Leno has no trouble finding Jaywalkers.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (August 29, 2010 3:16 pm ET)
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        There's an old (Turkish, I think) saying, "An honest man will be driven out of seven villages." The corollary must be that a charlatan will make millions.
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      • Author by pete592 (August 29, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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        Every time I see a Jaywalking segment I wonder how many people Jay actually has to talk to in order to find the token stupid ones.
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        • Author by manndan (August 29, 2010 10:50 pm ET)
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          They film those segments in southern California. Enough said.
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          • Author by pete592 (August 30, 2010 11:03 am ET)
               
            Not quite enough... every time I see one, Jay's working a touristy spot. Your cheap shot at SoCal residents isn't so cut-and-dried.
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    • Author by didi (August 29, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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      I think I heard a nervous laugh right after Juan dropped his bombshell. I could be wrong but I think the reaction would be noteworthy.

      I wish you'd extend it to include the reaction.
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    • Author by Alone in Texas (August 29, 2010 2:57 pm ET)
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      It is called manipulation.
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    • Author by bintx (August 29, 2010 2:57 pm ET)
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      Me, too, but then there truly is a sucker born every minute.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 29, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
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        The estimate of a sucker born 'every minute' dates to the 19th Century. I'm thinking they're coming at a slightly faster rate just lately!
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    • Author by nativeofsf (August 29, 2010 7:14 pm ET)
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      Sad to say, "Stupid is as stupid does."

      Now which one's Glenda?
      Then the others must be "people [who] follow this guy"
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      • Author by John Paradox (August 30, 2010 3:20 am ET)
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        What was it Obi Wan said? Who is the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?
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    • Author by nerzog (August 29, 2010 7:27 pm ET)
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      If you examine American society, maybe it isn't all that surprising. Just look at some of our most popular TV shows, and the weird religious beliefs that people cling to.

      As Bill Maher said not long ago: "America is a stupid country".

      I'm reluctant to accept it, but the fact that the Republicans may be voted back into power, so soon after they almost wrecked the country... pretty much confirms it.
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      • Author by leftofwhat (August 29, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
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        No shirt nerzog.I'm new to this dance today and am surprised that the LSM is covering yesterdays shenanigans(sp).The movie "Idiocracy" has been playing all weekend on Comedy Central.I don't think this is a coincidence.I'm glad I missed the blather today.I was at home practicing the art of Pain Ting.I hope you are wrong about pug advances in Nov.
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    • Author by 4teepee (August 29, 2010 8:36 pm ET)
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      My theory is that the right-wing elite has decided that Mitt Romney is their guy for the 2012 presidential election. Mormon Glenn Beck and Fox News are being used to build bridges to Christian fundamentalist preachers – who traditionally have regarded Mormons with distain -- at events such as that at the Lincoln Memorial. Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin have been put on the Fox payroll, which tempers criticism from those two fundamentalists. Mormon Beck is a stalking-horse for Romney.
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      • Author by woodstock (August 29, 2010 9:07 pm ET)
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        Agreed, and any religion that welcomes the end of times is no friend of mine. And I certainly dont want them running the show.
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      • Author by Unreality (August 29, 2010 10:06 pm ET)
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        While that's a logical syllogism it doesn't seem real.

        I know a fair number of wealthy corporate execs who funded (big time) and worked as rainmakers for Romney's disasterous 2008 primary campaign. They're members of the oligarchy. These people find Beck too disgusting for words. Many of the women were willing to hold their noses at Palin (I literally was stunned), but if Beck were to be on the same stage introducing Romney in 2012 these highly educated, highly competent - and mostly non-Christian - people will literally run the other way. They don't see Beck as a performer, merely deranged.

        They would have to believe that the Kochs will put $500 million behind Romney and another $500 million into FauxNoise and astroturf groups before they'd put their time into it. But then they're members of the oligarchy, and their actions in opposition to the good of the country during the Dubya years constantly shocked me.
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        • Author by 4teepee (August 29, 2010 10:54 pm ET)
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          Romney won't appear on stage with Beck. Romney is smarter than that.
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      • Author by nerzog (August 30, 2010 8:43 am ET)
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        That's not such a far out theory. The Mormons are apparently pushing to become a political force in this country. The dirty little not-so-secret is that most Fundamentalist Christians consider Mormonism a cult, and presume that they are headed straight to hell.

        Simple Sarah can't admit it in public, but there's a very high probability that she thinks Glenn Beck is doomed to hell. Of course, if you dangle money in front of her face, she'll appear on stage with anyone.
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    • Author by ProgLib (August 29, 2010 9:54 pm ET)
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      I'm amazed that Juan Williams is still on Fox News.

      I, also, couldn't stand that smug smile on Kristol's face as Williams was talking.
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      • Author by mary59 (August 29, 2010 10:50 pm ET)
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        I'm not sure that Bill Kristol's face is really capable of a smile. It could be gas.
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (August 29, 2010 10:41 pm ET)
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      "You can't Fix Stupid". The late Jim White, 1120 KMOX Radio. The (Right Wing) Voice of St. Louis
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    • Author by Unreality (August 29, 2010 11:55 pm ET)
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      Did you listen to Glenn Madden's complete BS? The self-referencing model that people are listening to Beck because he's voicing their concerns - which is 180 degrees out of phase. People are listening to right wing talk radio and FauxNoise and getting their fantasies and fears (I resist calling them ideas) stimulated with more fear and hate, and then echoing their know-nothing opinions as facts in public. It's all one giant circle jerk of disinformation and deception.

      To be sure, the economy sucks. The do-nothing side of the political aisle isn't about to say yes to anything that might fix it before 2013. But FauxNoise and their talk radio fellow travelers (I've been waiting 50 years to get to use that) sure don't have a clue about the sources of the problem or the need for long term solutions. ACORN and the CRA did not cause or even contribute to the mortgage meltdown - it was CDOs, CDSs and falsified MBSs.
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      • Author by Unreality (August 29, 2010 11:58 pm ET)
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        Excuse me, Freudian slip, I meant "Kevin Madden."

        Freaking "grass roots conservative" in a billionaire's eye. Thanks to Jane Mayer people know the Kochs, I've known about them for over a decade as they fund lots of science and medicine in addition to their Fifth Columnists at the Cato Institute (sic).
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    • Author by John Paradox (August 30, 2010 12:55 am ET)
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      Looking for Becks' "bedside rant" after medical treatment, I found by using "glenn beck sick", this video... a summary of his 8/28 tentless revival.
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