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Teaser by Fox's Briggs: Tea Party Tracker is "sneaky new campaign" by "left-leaning media" to "paint" tea party "as racists"

September 06, 2010 11:35 am ET

From the September 6 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by progressiveright (September 06, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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      As soon as the right sees the truth being told they have to paint it as lies. As the saying goes the truth shall set you free. That is why the right and the tea party fear (hate) the truth. The truth show them for being racist and against the American people.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 06, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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      I had not heard of this organization before. Here is the link. You can post the link to your Facebook. Check out the gallery of photos. I saw many of those signs for myself.

      http://www.teapartytracker.org/
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 06, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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        The video is worth watching, too, epk.

        There's a contrast there that's pretty interesting. When asked for specifics ( why they're there, what things the Obama administration has done to take their freedom,etc.) there's a lot of stammering and sentences trailing off into vapor.

        But there's that absolute certainty when the teabaggers start talking about Islam and well-documented quotes that they've never heard from Glenn Beck.

        NOtice the typical framing by Fox, that the group is trying to "paint the Tea party as racist". The groups site clearly says it's looking at racism and other extremism within the tea party. I guess it only takes one non-racist sign to prove that the tea party is not racist, and there can't be any racism driving it, contrary to the piles of evidence..
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        • Author by epkklk851 (September 06, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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          I saw the video on some other website a few days ago. I guess I thought that everyone had. But, it is a great video. I just love the guy in red who gets so offended about Glennie's racist comment. I told my daughters about it, and they both said "Why didn't they just play the video for them."
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 06, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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        epk, sort of off topic, but related to the Tea Party and racism, a wingnut Facebook friend-of-a -friend posted this video the other day.

        It was posted on the Tea Party Patriots page ( check out their union thuggery diatribes today)

        At first, I didn't really understand her point in posting it, and asking our mutual friend for his thoughts on it. I saw a bunch of baggers forcefully denying any racism, and accusing the reporter of being the bad guy for "bringing up" race. They could have acknowledged the documented racism, condemned it and distanced themselves, but they went with the usual, complete denial.

        Then I read the comments following the post, and I understood the difference in perception. The Teabaggers saw this as a "gotcha" attempt by the reporter, and a complete refudiation by the teabaggers.

        As if they were going to say " Yup, we're here because we're racist".

        I just found this interesting, like the posters here who show up to defend every racist remark by the right wing media people, always adding on that " BTW, I am definitely not a racist. It's the people who notice my racism who are the real racists."
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        • Author by Conchobhar (September 06, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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          BTW, I am definitely not a racist. It's the people who notice my racism who are the real racists."
          They do the same thing with class, too. Going back to Henry Hyde and long before him, anyone who pointed out that Republican policies were injurious to the middle class and the poor was engaging in "class warfare." Of course, the class warfare was in the policies themselves, but it was divisive, to say the least, to point that out.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (September 06, 2010 6:33 pm ET)
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          Thanks for the links. It was very interesting. This is the thing about race and the Teabaggers, many of them aren't overtly racist. They don't necessarily hate minorities, it's just that they want to return to a time where their race gave them a distinct and undeniable advantage. They may not even realize this on a conscious level, they just remember what their childhoods were like and want the same for their children. They utterly fail to realize that this return would be an absolute disaster for minorities, regardless of color, who would suddenly find their prospects and the prospects of their children deminished. It really isn't malicious, it's just blind. My mother was like this. She never understood and when I pointed the implications out to her, she was always wounded. I remember her once telling me that it was fine to be for equal opportunities for Blacks, but I would change my tune the first time I lost the job to a Black person. I asked why it would bother me more than losing a job to a White, but she said it was. That was 30 years ago, I'm still not sure why.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (September 06, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
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            It's because some white people of a certain age honestly believe that it's better to be white in this society. When I go into some high end stores, I'm naturally suspected of being the one person who will steal something. I've been followed around in stores by security all of my life. What the store manager and employees never seem to know is that, even though I'm retired, my income is much more than they make working in the stores. It's my high visibility, social conditioning, and our country's history of poor race relations that makes them zoom in on me to the exclusion of someone else who may be robbing the store blind.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (September 06, 2010 8:16 pm ET)
                 
              I know what you mean and I know how you feel. I worked at Montgomery Ward when I was a high school student. I hadn't been working very long when I got a phone call from the security guard who asked me how many peices of costume jewelry this Indian woman had purchased. The guard had been spying on her from one of several booths hidden above the sales floor. Another time, when I was in college, I went into a high end nicknack shop, it was pink and it had my name, so I had to go in. I was wearing my college sweatshirt and a baggy coat. We were followed the whole time. I was insulted, and I realized it was because I was a college student. I can imagine how irritating this must be on a daily basis. I was also followed when I was in Korea, and people stared. It was generally more positive, but I couldn't just go out and get lost like I do in the States. I also knew of younger, thinner women who were appreciated to the point of real annoyance with Korean males. It would be nice if we could all just get along and accept each other while being on our best behavior (no need for security).
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              • Author by John Paradox (September 07, 2010 11:31 am ET)
                   
                How To Rob A Store Blind

                Requirements: one 'minority' person, one 'white' person
                Technique: Have the 'minority' person enter the store, and watch as the 'security' follows them around, keeping their focus on the 'minority'.
                After a short time, the 'white' person enters, wearing baggy clothing, preferably with an iPod or other media player (or at least the earbuds, so the 'security' knows they're 'rich' enough to ignore)
                As the security follows the 'minority', the 'white' person takes various items, small enough to fit in the baggy clothing, and stashes them about their person.
                After the 'white' person has completed their shoplifting, they exit the store and disappear from the immediate visual vicinity of the entryway.
                The 'minority', having cleared the way, can now leave, possibly even purchasing a cheap item to 'dismiss suspicion'.
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            • Author by Bongo Fury (September 06, 2010 8:22 pm ET)
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              I'm kinda tired of being white cug.I believe in social justice and equality for all,but,when I opine anything like this around most white folks,they look at me like I'm crazy.The right hopes people like me are a tiny minority and propogate it daily through faux and hate radio.Dems have to get a clearer,more positive message to the voters.As stupid as this country has gotten the last ten years,it's no little feat.
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        • Author by sodium (September 06, 2010 7:38 pm ET)
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          @ Andy Kreiss.

          Tnx for posting that video link.


          I love the older women on the steps in the blue shirt.

          She's a dead ringer for Granny Clampett!
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    • Author by nerzog (September 06, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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      If Republicans take over the government again, the Teabaggers won't be useful to them any more, and won't have anything to whine about. They'll evaporate like water on a hot sidewalk.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (September 06, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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        The teabaggers would then target RINOs. Once everyone in America is a teabagging dittohead Republican, their purpose will be no longer necessary.
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        • Author by John Paradox (September 06, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
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          This is one of the things about radical movements, the more radical tend to 'hang on to' the "medium radical" members until they are no more use, then it's 'operation oust the moderates'.
          This mostly reminds me of the 'religious' groups.. they count Mormons and Catholics when they need numbers, such as 98% of Americans have religious beliefs, then the less radical churches get kicked out so that 98 becomes, say, 75%.. and as each of the sub-churches divide, it goes to 60...43....21.....5%.
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      • Author by MickD (September 06, 2010 6:43 pm ET)
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        Well, Nerz, definitely their right wing money would dry up. Who wants to drive himself and feed himself in association with a fake event?
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    • Author by bailorgana (September 06, 2010 12:24 pm ET)
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      I guess these jackasses did not see when the Tea Party told people to avoid Black & Gay areas in Washington last week.
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    • Author by juliajayne1 (September 06, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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      "Sneaky"? Oh, like the "grassroots" Tea party movement funded by billionares? Sneaky like that?

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    • Author by grmce (September 06, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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      The return of the "Knownothings".

      Contrary to popular belief the Republican Party doesn't need another Reagan, rather they need another Lincoln to get them out of the bigoted, nativist, self-centred morass into which they have descended - but then that might upset the dopey Dixicrats that they have absorbed over the past 60 or so years.
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      • Author by pilotx (September 06, 2010 1:56 pm ET)
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        Nah, just another Edward Brooke.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (September 06, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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          Good memory. Did you clear that reference with Barbara?
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        • Author by okiepoli (September 06, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
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          You are both wrong - the Republican party needs at least 100 - 200 Lincolns, Goldwaters, etc - elected into office (emphasis because the reactionary right won't elect politicians who are ethical and principled.) Can someone on the Democratic side speed-up that cloning research, I fear for my party.
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          • Author by pilotx (September 06, 2010 10:11 pm ET)
               
            I think after Palin, Paul and Angle your party will be ready for change. Sometimes you need to learn things the hard way.
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            • Author by okiepoli (September 07, 2010 11:30 am ET)
                 
              Pres. Eisenhower warned us of the dangers of investing too much power and influence in the military-industrial complex, Sen. Goldwater warned us of the dangers posed by the radical and religious right - yet the party ignored both. Driven by greed, a lust for power and an easily-energized base, the party moved away from the ethics and principals I respect.

              Perhaps the party will learn the hard way - the right-wing reactionaries will shred themselves into ever-more ideologically pure groups, and will split the vote between numerous Independent and Libertarian candidates.

              I suspect, however, that with the dishonest handling (via the media and Republican leadership) of the issues the party will win seats, perhaps enough to claim majority - if so, I am concerned that they will waste time and money trying to depose Pres. Obama, to the detriment of good government.

              I believe that conservative ideals can compete with liberal ideals, but conservatives must be honest. They must be willing to lose the fringe by saying that they oppose the establishment of a theocracy and that Constitutional protections must extend to all - regardless of race, creed, sex (or sexual preference,) religion, etc. They must be willing to risk losing support and money by saying "No" to the addictive drug of lobbyists, and governing in the best interests of this country - not their pocketbooks. Finally, they must be willing to compete, based on merit, head-to-head with liberals. The last point is where I think it gets difficult for my party - allow me to paint with a broad brush here - liberals promise a panacea for all problems courtesy of expanded powers and government largess. Honest conservatives don't promise to cure all of society's ills, but contend that the least government possible frees each individual to achieve what they desire, to the best of their ability. Society is free to cure its own ills, just as the government must tend to its own.
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              • Author by pilotx (September 07, 2010 2:20 pm ET)
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                Modern conservatism has been tainted by this country's history and that includes racism. The problem I see with conservatism is this idealized version of rugged individualism that never existed and cannot exist as the world becomes more urban and complex. We should be learning new ways of interacting with each other and not how to use government to pursue individual goals. For example, most industrialized nations have free healthcare and college education. They understand that to compete with foreign corporations they have to lower their costs and keep educated workers. Too many resist this here because they believe somebody is getting over on them. If we can lose this idea that somebody is taking your hardearned money and spending it on lazy people we may have a breakthrough. We have to look at the fact that if we do not take care of each other and educate our young we will fall as a nation.
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                • Author by okiepoli (September 07, 2010 10:44 pm ET)
                     
                  pilotx - before I address your post I'd like to twist MMfA's headline - Presidential ouster is "sneaky new campaign" by "Tea Party Association" to "paint" tea party "as homophobic."

                  The taint of racism is shared on both sides. As a nation, with good leadership, we have worked to break the chains of slavery - not only the chains on the slaves, but also the chains on the souls of the slave-owners.

                  That longed-for 'rugged individualism' is an anachronistic myth that I do not subscribe to. To ignore progress and new ways of solving problems is foolish - as is the practice of ignoring the lessons of history.

                  I wrestle with my own personal demons on the subject of education, some part of me screams that this is not the place of the federal government, but I usually beat it down by chanting "general Welfare" and mumbling something about facilitating interstate commerce.

                  I am not nearly as conflicted on health insurance reform, and I'm honest enough to point-out that "HCR" is nothing of the sort. I'm not opposed to regulation of the government (the Constitution) the people (criminal law) or industries (various.) I'd like to see just enough laws to "keep honest people honest" and enough enforcement to apprehend those who aren't. I don't want to see any more Enrons, Exxons, or Bhopals - but if there are I'd like to see justice done, like, umm, sometime within my lifetime!

                  'I' have no problem paying taxes, my biggest problem with taxes is: while compliance is mandatory, enforcement is arbitrary. A citizen should do their duty by voting (for representation,) contributing (by paying taxes, et al,) and, if called, serving (defense or public service.) A corporation (or their money) shouldn't vote nor serve - paying taxes to repay for the benefits of doing business in this country, absolutely!

                  I cannot stand the hypocrisy of writing legislation to defund ACORN while turning a blind eye to hundreds of companies that do business with the federal government that commit contract fraud and environmental, ethics, and labor violations. (Source)

                  I don't worry "that somebody is taking your hardearned money and spending it..." - I know they are, but I doubt that the "lazy people" (folks defrauding the social services and abusing the systems) have nearly as strong a lobby or as great an economic impact.

                  I'm sure you will agree to most, if not all of my points. I believe that in any random sample of more than a hundred people you will find at least three who will conspire to bend or break the law, and I posit that a smaller government, watched closely by those it represents, reduces the risk of the crime going unnoticed/unpunished. The government, the free market, and NGOs all have strengths and weaknesses, but I believe that a synergistic amalgam can be found.
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              • Author by grmce (September 07, 2010 8:10 pm ET)
                   
                okiepoli,
                Perhaps the party will learn the hard way - the right-wing reactionaries will shred themselves into ever-more ideologically pure groups,
                As former Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam once said, "But the impotent are always pure."
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    • Author by steeve (September 06, 2010 5:13 pm ET)
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      We don't need the help of racism to bring the tea party down, because it's wrong about everything and has no legitimacy. Racism talk takes time away from pointing out how wrong the tea party is.
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    • Author by MilitantMNMan (September 06, 2010 5:25 pm ET)
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      How is it that we are the ones doing the painting when it's the protestors with the cans and the brushes?
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    • Author by boulderhippy (September 06, 2010 5:34 pm ET)
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      MMFA is branching out without changing their mission statement. This is the path to ruin for most organizations. Trying to do other things without even coming close to accomplishing your original goals is so arrogant that it is destructive.
      Why don't you get at least competent at your mission before going out and stirring up more lies and misinformation.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 06, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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        Thank you for your confused concern.
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (September 06, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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        Other services aggregate stories from different sources like Tea Party Tracker does. RSN and Truthout as well as cable news channels use MMFA in that regard as well. So tell me, how precisely does MMFA need to change their mission statement? And what is destructive to MMFA about this?

        And thanks as always for your great and sincere (sic) concern. I'm sure you wrote directly to MMFA with these concerns, no?
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      • Author by ProgLib (September 06, 2010 7:17 pm ET)
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        Where are the lies and misinformation that are being stirred?
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (September 06, 2010 7:55 pm ET)
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          There aren't any. bouldersnipe has reading comprehension issues. What he reads doesn't translate literally. It goes through a rw filter and comes out warped every time.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (September 06, 2010 7:57 pm ET)
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        "Trying to do other things without even coming close to accomplishing your original goals is so arrogant that it is destructive.
        Why don't you get at least competent at your mission before going out and stirring up more lies and misinformation."

        This so reminds me of those in the rw media.

        Arrogant, destructive, incompetent, lies, and misinformation.

        Yep, that's rw media alright.
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    • Author by hitchikerforajax (September 06, 2010 9:33 pm ET)
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      Tea partiers are racist. Mind you the G.O.P. aren't any different. It continues to baffle me that the repiglicans, would rather see Obama & the democrats fail, than actually put something tangible on the table! They only care ,as long as the rich Americans keep & expand their wealth. Damned, if it destroys regular middle America. Sad state of U.S. government. It wouldn't surprise me if Bush's economic team, are advising Boehner, Cantor & McConnell on doing nothing. But tax cuts & staying in Muslim countries, continuing the failed policies that has put America in the toilet! That's right, vote em in.
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