Schultz praises Tea Party Tracker: Liberals are "not into making Tea Partiers look bad ... just into telling the truth"
September 08, 2010 12:18 pm ET
From the September 7 edition of MSNBC's The Ed Show:
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1. Film what they do.
2. Record what they say.
That's it.
The trolls commenting there are no brighter than the ones here, showing up to insist they don't see any stupidity or racism in any of the photos. They don't seem to understand how self-defeating it is to defend these things while adding their own confused comments to the mix,
My biggest snicker this week was a real life acquaintance telling me that all those people at the Tea Parties who are carrying Obama/Hitler signs or Obama/witch doctor signs or are carrying or saying other racist and vile stuff are just "Democrat plants". His only evidence for this is that the nutjob at the Alaska State Fair was carrying a LaRouche sign that equated Obama and Hitler.
Don't be sorry for us. My kids are all adults now - but they had very active, education and most importantly happy childhoods. And on that issue that everyone brings up - socialization, we as a family seem to have too much these days. We haven't had a free week-end all summer, and last I checked the calendar the next open week-end is sometime in November.
I hate when I reread a comment and discover Ileft out words!
Should be:
but they had very active lives, comprehensive education and most importantly happy childhoods
What I HAVE seen is a lot of people standing right next to the racist signs with big smiles on their faces, and posing with them. They don't look horrified or insulted- they look proud.
Lie down with dogs...
I'm hearing from more and more whites in different states on progressive blogs talk about how many more people they know, or come into contact with, are using the word N!99%r nowadays to refer to the president. I know how these people are since I lived the first 18 years of my life in America in the 1950s and 1960s being referred to by this name. When the tea party groups cover for the racists among them and say that racism doesn't exist in their groups, I know they're lying.
He never disputed the truth of what "liberals" are saying, there's only a disagreement about why they're telling the truth. Simply to tell the truth, or to make teabaggers look bad ?
If the truth makes tea party people look bad, the motive doesn't matter.
You imply or state the following:
"Liberals are always calling Tea Partiers racists and other names."
You and others use terms like "liberal," "communist," "socialist," "conservative," "racist," and other names. The problem with words like these is that they are used in may instances pejoratively, meaning that the use of the term is a value judgment, leading away from the issues, possibly inflaming listeners, and solving no issues--only increasing or maintaining the level of distrust and building walls and not bridges.
It would be better if we all forgot that such words exist. One of the problems with Fox News and others on the right is that they, apparently, don't care about sober problem solving because it relies more on facts than inflammation, on respect for others rather than putting them down with judgments, which is the reason why these terms are used in the first place.
Having said that, I'm going to use some of these terms in ways that are generally understood and define them. A racist is someone who puts down a person whose skin is a different hue or who have a different stature. Generally a racist, sexist, agist, or whatever-ist is someone who categorizes people based on categories that are incidental to the existence of that person, or accidental attributes from birth.
Let's define a "liberal" as someone interested in making changes and a "conservative" as someone who prefers that status quo. I'm sure there are more attributes, but we'll go with this general definition.
Many people on MMFA call the "racists" in the Tea Party rallies "racists." Sometimes, as we all do, some liberals and conservatives overuse the expression "racist." The NAACP called upon the Tea partiers to denounce people who they considered racist. There was no response from tea partiers that I am aware of. If, as some contend, there are no racists, then the thing to do is ask those making the claim to provide evidence. They could easily have said that "We also denounce racism." Apparently they turned the tables and denounced the NAACP, some making the claim that the NAACP is racist, but yet provide no objective evidence.
You say "liberals are always calling Tea Partiers racists." What evidence do you provide? None. Making this general assertion stirs emotions, but does not solve problems. A conclusion that I can reach is that you are advocating ill will rather than cooperation.
Using the term "always" is rhetorically not sound. Have you seen, for example, Keith Olbermann when he is asleep? What about everyone here at MMFA? I haven't seen your face in my bedroom. Should I look?
"Bad" is also one of those general terms which have no objective reality since it is a value judgment imposed by an observer, you, in this case. It again offers no enlightenment; it only stirs emotions.
Where is your evident of the assertions you make? Seeing none, your comments offer nothing. That is, of course a conclusion that I draw. You may disagree. Others here probably wouldn't.
I don't understand why these people who keep insisting that they're not racist jump in at every opportunity to defend racists, and insist that they don't see any of the well-documented racism in the tea party.
They're their own worst character witnesses.