Carlson wonders if Park51 developers chose location to "incite people ... I wonder if it was a setup"
September 09, 2010 3:02 pm ET
From the September 9 edition of Fox News Radio's Kilmeade & Friends:
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Carlson additionally wonders "how many people would go to this cultural center, i.e. a mosque, and swim with their kids."
The only person INCITING anything here is... GRETCHEN CARLSON!
And the only ENTITY inciting anything here is the Fox News Channel.
She "wonders if it was a setup." Oh yes - How DARE they offend Gretchen Carlson! How dare they make her so angry she has to go and incite people.
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What a stupid, vapid, soulless whore.
Calling Gretchen Carlson a "whore" is really demeaning and insulting...
...TO ACTUAL PROSTITUTES.
They only sell their bodies. Carlson has sold her soul.
So I'd like to apologize to any prostitutes out there who were offended at my comparing Gretchen Carlson to them. That was inappropriate on my part, as Carlson is much, MUCH worse than that.
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However, in my search for a better word, my otherwise colorful vocabulary fails me.
But an empty building doesn't generate any sales taxes for the city. An empty building doesn't create any foot traffic for the adjoining businesses to profit from and thereby pay sales and property taxes!
And the demolition of the existing structure and the construction of the new building WILL generate income to the city via payroll taxes and will help the local area as well as the pocketbooks of all the families of all those employed in the demolition and construction.
So, the previous poster's overall point still stands (that it will financially benefit NYC) despite his error about the ways it will do so.
When she says: "...the thought did cross my mind...", I nearly had coffee shoot out my nose.
If she'd have been truthful (I know, I know, but let's pretend), she'd have said "According to the memo from Roger Ailes..."
The point is to associate their political opponents with Muslims, immigrants, and minorities. It has gone on throughout the summer and it will continue until at least Election Day.
Yes, and the swimming pool holds the same water from Crystal Lake and possesses the ghost of Jason, but instead of killing everyone he only goes after Christians, conservatives, and Fox News personalities; you know the Real Americans.
It's pretty simple, actually.
Now, there WAS a group that chose this FIGHT to incite people in a dishonest effort to politicize this effort and enflame religious hypocrites and zealots!
THAT group was a few rightwingers.
The group to be faulted here is rightwingers who wanted to fuel bigotry! It's their incitement that should be called out.
According to Rauf in his interview with O'brian, the property was a donation to the Imam's congregation. They currently do not have much funding for construction and don't expect the financing for several years. I do not know if property will be used in its current condition as a place of worship. You are right that, just like the Gainesville Quran burning, the uproar was brought by just a few to incite unfounded passions of discontent.
And it wasn't donated to them from what I understand. It had been purchased several years after it had been damaged by the jet's landing gear on 9/11 by SoHo Properties, which was owned by a member of their congregation and 7 other people.
Can you provide a link to the comment that you're referencing where someone said that they had been donated the property? They are currently USING the property, and may be doing so without having purchased the building yet, but I don't think it's been donated. The current owners are on record saying that they bought the property looking to make a profit off of it.
The Cordoba project and Park51 are actually 2 buildings - the old Burlington Coat Factory store and an adjacent building that's owned by ConEd and available via a long-term lease.
this is the only place I could find the transcript in a cursory check. It has Rauf's comment mis-attributed to O'Brien, but it is obvious that it is Rauf's comment.
Too bad, so sad.
His congregant said that this site would be a good site - NOT that he would GIVE it to the Imam's group.
But he HAS said that he wants to make a profit off the property - which DOES say that he's going to SELL it to the Park51 people.
So, I was 100% right in saying
And it wasn't donated to them from what I understand. It had been purchased several years after it had been damaged by the jet's landing gear on 9/11 by SoHo Properties, which was owned by a member of their congregation and 7 other people.
Can you provide a link to the comment that you're referencing where someone said that they had been donated the property? They are currently USING the property, and may be doing so without having purchased the building yet, but I don't think it's been donated. The current owners are on record saying that they bought the property looking to make a profit off of it.
According to Rauf in his interview with O'brian, the property was a donation to the Imam's congregation. They currently do not have much funding for construction and don't expect the financing for several years. I do not know if property will be used in its current condition as a place of worship. You are right that, just like the Gainesville Quran burning, the uproar was brought by just a few to incite unfounded passions of discontent.
His congregant offered it to be used.
That doesn't necessarily mean "donated". And Sharif El-Gamal still owns the property, according to a news article from August 17th, 2010.
He still owns the Burlington Coat Factory building and he has a long-term 99 year lease from ConEd on the neighboring building.
So no, I don't think that an asssertion that the building has been donated to the Park51 group can be supported with the evidence currently available.
I wasn't able to catch any of his show yesterday to see how he would predictably play off of his set-up, but I did tune in today just in time to hear Simple Sarah call in.
Hannity found it interesting that, with absolutely no coordination ( wink wink), Palin had been using the same phrase as Dimwitty, " Unnecessary provocation".
The Snowbilly only took about three or four words to make the ridiculous jump that the building of the community center and the burning of the Koran were comparable.
Well done, wingnuts. I'm sure your audience thought it made perfect sense.
Apples and pomegranates.
It could be one of those questions given on the SAT, IQ, or Employment Aptitude tests;
1. Which group does not belong?
a. Koran Burners
b. Park 51 Opponents
c. Park 51