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Alveda King: Dems who passed health care reform were trying to "tear down the dream" and "destroy the American dream"

September 10, 2010 6:13 pm ET

From the September 10 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

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    • Author by seahawks123 (September 10, 2010 6:21 pm ET)
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      Well the Anointed One Obama did say that he wants to "fundamentally transform" this country and that the Constitution was a charter of "negative liberties" in which it said what the government can't do and not "positive liberties" that say what the government should do and he doesn't like it.
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      • Author by John Paradox (September 10, 2010 6:25 pm ET)
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        Hmmm.. the Ten Commandments (in its various forms) seems to say a lot of "thou shalt not"s.
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      • Author by New Frontier (September 10, 2010 6:39 pm ET)
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        You shown you don't know the difference between the words "lose" and "loose", and between "common" and "c'mon", but yet you're qualified to critique what others say.
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        • Author by fairliberal (September 10, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
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          Are you qualified to lecture others about English after using the phrase " You shown you don't know"?

          Of course all your liberal pals here think so, they only correct people on the right.
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          • Author by mary59 (September 10, 2010 10:36 pm ET)
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            I seen what you gone and done. Youse all jealous of our freedomes and our annointings.
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          • Author by New Frontier (September 11, 2010 8:46 am ET)
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            Are you qualified to lecture others about English
            Tell it to your fellow trolling dumbass, Seawhackos. He was the one lecturing, not me.
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          • Author by bintx (September 12, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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            FL, do you know the difference between a typo and a consistent misuse of a word? Squawks ALWAYS uses the word "loose" when he means "lose."

            Oh, and hon, just because you parrot the BS shoveled on Fox doesn't mean that you are a conservative nor does it mean that people who disagree with this BS are liberal. They're just smarter than you are and are able to determine the difference between BS and truth.

            Brainless, groupie twit.
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      • Author by shaggles (September 10, 2010 6:49 pm ET)
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        You can't argue with gibberish.
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      • Author by soze169880 (September 10, 2010 7:32 pm ET)
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        Well the Anointed One Obama did say that he wants to "fundamentally transform" this country

        So did Glenn Beck.
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      • Author by Martha (September 10, 2010 8:15 pm ET)
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        As usual .....no references.
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    • Author by Jollymon (September 10, 2010 6:32 pm ET)
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      Yes, why should the government pay for healthcare for all when they can pay for wars for some. I mean, everyone knows that the American dream is to create a military industrial complex. That is a much better idea, isn't it?
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      • Author by MickD (September 10, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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        Precisely, when it comes to the Christ-like "whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me" is lost on the fake Christian Repubs!
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      • Author by DellDolly (September 10, 2010 8:19 pm ET)
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        Yes, why would the richest nation in the world ensure that ALL their citizens have access to healthcare?
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        • Author by Jollymon (September 10, 2010 8:59 pm ET)
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          Why Dell! Are you actually agreeing with me on something? My my. I'm blushing! And you didn't even give me your automatic thumbs down. I'm flattered.

          Muah!
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 11, 2010 3:10 pm ET)
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          Because we all know the American dream is poor, old people dying penniless in the streets. Like in the good ol' days of the 1800s. That was the American dream.
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (September 11, 2010 6:14 pm ET)
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        I just returned from Costa Rica 2 weeks ago, and even they have universal healthcare. A still developing country with 3rd world toilets and infrastructure in some places has friggin' universal healthcare...

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    • Author by shaggles (September 10, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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      It's the American Dream to go bankrupt due to medical bills?
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (September 10, 2010 6:54 pm ET)
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        Yes,
        Most of the Founding Fathers went bankrupt due to medical expenses. They were real men, if they couldn't pay for their health care, they said: "Go find the nearest conservative and have him shoot me!"

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 10, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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      so, the intellect capability to get on the Glenn Beck show is to be intellect free ?
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      • Author by neon desert (September 10, 2010 7:14 pm ET)
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        Oh it's not a minimum requirement, it's mandatory.

        See, they want to be sure you connect with the audience.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (September 10, 2010 7:24 pm ET)
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      I sure hope Alveda is being paid well, because I can't see her being that welcome at the family reunions.
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      • Author by YouDontMeanThat (September 10, 2010 7:47 pm ET)
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        Where is all the racist name calling? Replace Ms. King's name with any other conservative's and there would be pages of "this is just racist rhetoric".
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (September 10, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
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          Only in your paranoid fantasies. Your claim isn't supported in the real world.
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        • Author by MiniTru (September 10, 2010 8:06 pm ET)
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          Are you high?
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (September 10, 2010 10:39 pm ET)
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          Alveda is related to me on my mother's side of the family through Coretta Scott King's marriage to MLK, and she isn't welcome at our family reunions. No one in the family can tolerate her. She'a whacko on teevee, and in real life.

          And just in case you didn't know, there are some African Americans who display racism toward other African Americans, and it's usually due to envy.
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          • Author by bintx (September 12, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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            I'm not sure why anyone listens to this woman. She calls herself "Dr." when all she has is an honorary doctorate. She is a phony and is attempting to cash in on her dead uncle's legacy.
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    • Author by indigo1968 (September 10, 2010 7:55 pm ET)
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      Alveda King's brain is like a Mobius strip: forever moving forward while going absolutely nowhere.


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      • Author by John Paradox (September 10, 2010 9:25 pm ET)
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        'A slow sort of country!' said the Queen. 'Now, HERE, you see, it takes all the running YOU can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!'
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    • Author by jjamele2880 (September 10, 2010 8:11 pm ET)
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      Raise your hand if you've always dreamed of watching your kid die because you couldn't afford to pay for the care he needed. Or if your dream was to shovel thousands of dollars into the maw of a "Health Care" Company and end up selling the family house in the end because you forgot to cross a "t" on some form when you were 26 and your policy got canceled when you needed it. Raise your hand if your dream was to spend your final years splitting pills and sharing meds with your friends and neighbors because you can't afford both health care and food.

      These people are sick (no pun intended.)
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      • Author by MickD (September 10, 2010 9:00 pm ET)
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        I wonder how much monetary resources the greedy healthmongers use to perpetuate their lawyer packed business. I believe I read a figure that was in the millions of dollars a day in their fight against the healthcare legislation. They got what they paid for.

        Even the upper middle class can be ruined by healthcare costs. I remember how smug Rush Limbo was when his black heart went out. How it costs about the same price as "an SUV." The industry and their supporters are the very definition of Satan.
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      • Author by bintx (September 12, 2010 1:32 pm ET)
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        I will be attending the third benefit to help pay health care costs for people who either a) have health insurance, but that insurance has refused to pay for legitimate health care costs, b) have health insurance, but their out of pocket expenses are so high that they cannot afford to live and c) are self-employed and are unable to afford health insurance.

        All three of these people are hard-working individuals who just happen to have been stricken with life-threatening illnesses.
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    • Author by Martha (September 10, 2010 8:20 pm ET)
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      I think it is incredibly sad and pathetic how Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King Jr., trades on his name while fighting against everything he stood for. Where he was an advocate for justice and equality, she has been an enemy of it. At a 1997 protest rally against a bill to extend civil rights to gays and lesbians, she said:

      "To equate homosexuality with race is to give a death sentence to civil rights. No one is enslaving homosexuals...or making them sit in the back of the bus."
      And during a 1998 speech at the University of North Carolina, she said:

      "Homosexuality cannot be elevated to the civil rights issue. The civil rights movement was born from the Bible. God hates homosexuality."
      Now let's compare that with what Martin and his wife, Coretta Scott King, have said on the subject. Here's Coretta explaining her husband's views (he didn't speak much about it while alive because it wasn't a big issue then):

      For too long, our nation has tolerated the insidious form of discrimination against this group of Americans, who have worked as hard as any other group, paid their taxes like everyone else, and yet have been denied equal protection under the law...I believe that freedom and justice cannot be parceled out in pieces to suit political convenience. My husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." On another occasion he said, "I have worked too long and hard against segregated public accommodations to end up segregating my moral concern. Justice is indivisible." Like Martin, I don't believe you can stand for freedom for one group of people and deny it to others...
      Gays and lesbians stood up for civil rights in Montgomery, Selma, in Albany, Ga. and St. Augustine, Fla., and many other campaigns of the Civil Rights Movement. Many of these courageous men and women were fighting for my freedom at a time when they could find few voices for their own, and I salute their contributions.

      Leonard Pitts expressed this view eloquently and brilliantly:

      I know also that some folks are touchy about anything seeming to equate the black civil rights movement with the gay one. And no, gay people were not kidnapped from Gay Land and sold into slavery, nor lynched by the thousands. On the other hand, they do know something about housing discrimination, they do know job discrimination, they do know murder for the sin of existence, they do know the denial of civil rights and they do know what it is like to be used as scapegoat and bogeyman by demagogues and political opportunists.
      They know enough of what I know that I can't ignore it. See, I have yet to learn how to segregate my moral concerns. It seems to me if I abhor intolerance, discrimination and hatred when they affect people who look like me, I must also abhor them when they affect people who do not. For that matter, I must abhor them even when they benefit me. Otherwise, what I claim as moral authority is really just self-interest in disguise.

      Alveda King is using her connection to MLK to give her some moral credibility she does not deserve. She is bathing in the reflected glory of the man while simultaneously fighting against everything he stood for.

      http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/09/the_colossal_fraud_of_alveda_k.php
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (September 10, 2010 10:51 pm ET)
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        Good post, Martha.

        I'm in the same category as Pitts and Coretta Scott King. After my experiences under segregation in this country, I cannot turn a blind eye to injustice done against anyone else in this country. I know how I felt when I was discriminated against, I have never forgotten it, and there are many still living today who won't let me forget it. I'll go to my grave remembering how I was/am hated by some people because I look(ed) different than they do/did. This is the reason I support the gay rights movement. When I meet other AAs in my age group who talk against gays and lesbians, I always remind them of how we used to be treated by our own government, and I let them know that what others do in the privacy of their home has nothing to do with them. I let them know that there's no way I'm going to discriminate against anyone for any reason.
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    • Author by clearstate (September 10, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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      The video still looks like he just passed one through the cheeks.
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    • Author by MilitantMNMan (September 10, 2010 9:48 pm ET)
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      How sad that Alveda King has sold her soul like this. And for any foolish right winger who replies to this by saying she is a relative of King and I shouldn't criticize her, I don't really care. I feel no need to contain my criticism of her treachery any more than folks on the right who criticize Ron Reagan jr for being a liberal.
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    • Author by Space-Pedestrian (September 11, 2010 9:59 am ET)
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      If being able to run a business is the American dream, then Alveda may be right.

      Hoping for change
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      • Author by mary59 (September 11, 2010 10:12 am ET)
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        The problems for small business have been accumulating for at least 30 years, starting with retrograde social security taxes under Reagan, and "trickle down" economics which is vodoo economics.

        It's rewarded incompetant huge multi-national corporations with tax payer money for outsourcing jobs; it's punished small businesses with big banksters refusing to loan money because they want to play the market instead.

        It's many obstructionist tactics used by the Republicans currently to block legislation that would help small business.

        Get a clue.
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        • Author by mary59 (September 11, 2010 11:13 pm ET)
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          By the way, your link was indeed full of hot air. Fortunately I read the story in my morning paper before the spin doctors got hold of it.
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    • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 11, 2010 3:08 pm ET)
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      And, they want to punch puppies in the face! And masturbate into apple pie! Run for your LIFE!!!
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