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O'Reilly, Stossel Discuss Hoax Video, Attack Planned Parenthood Funding

February 01, 2011 9:10 pm ET

From the February 2 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Previously:

HOAX VIDEO EXPOSED: Planned Parenthood Already Reported "Sex Trafficking" To FBI

Lila Rose's Video Contradicts Her Claim That Planned Parenthood Is Corrupt

Who Is Lila Rose?

Who Is Mark Crutcher?

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    • Author by rtownsend150 (February 01, 2011 9:13 pm ET)
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      It wasn't a hoax at all. THAT NURSE DIDN'T REPORT IT. The other clinics did.
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      • Author by thaneb (February 01, 2011 9:24 pm ET)
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        The hoax is that it is being pitched as a systemic problem at Planned Parenthood. The source basis of your comment puts the lie to that pitch.
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        • Author by thaneb (February 01, 2011 9:26 pm ET)
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          P.S. What's the evidence that that nurse didn't report it? Thanks.
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        • Author by rtownsend150 (February 01, 2011 9:26 pm ET)
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          Uh, no. O'Reilly and Stossel clearly agree that this is "one employee" and is not a representative of the whole organization.

          Regardless, LiveAction has shown dozens of undercover investigations.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 9:29 pm ET)
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            Frankly, until anyone is convicted of wrongdoing, I'm filing this "expose" in the same file as the ACORN hoax and the fake New Black Panther hoax.

            In other words, under "G" for garbage.
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            • Author by iglou (February 01, 2011 9:37 pm ET)
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              It's not even garbage it's nothing. Just vacant nothingness to support narrow world views. More made up controversy to call into question things without a shred of solid evidence. In the meantime 2 million people protested peacefully to overthrow government corruption and Fox runs with this story. This just further shows Fox irrelevance.
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            • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 9:42 pm ET)
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              I don't know about the NBP as being a hoax. The video clearly showed two guys at the doors of a voting booth...one had a nightstick. Does everyone take a nightstick to the voting booth?
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              • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 9:46 pm ET)
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                No one complained of being intimidated, ergo, there were no grounds for a criminal complaint.
                And I can't help but laugh over how teabaggers with AR-15s across the street from the president are just proud American patriots making their voices heard, but a black guy with a stick=Negrogeddon.
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                • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 9:58 pm ET)
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                  Is everything about race to you?

                  But since you compared the two, I would think one would be more likely to be harmed by a nightstick from 2 feet away than someone being being shot on a stage in a convention center from the opposite side of the street. In each case, nobody was harmed and no charges filed, and no arrests made, but IMO, the guys at the doors of the booth tried to intimidate, and the guy at the convention center just hated BO.
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                  • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 10:02 pm ET)
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                    Is everything about race to you?

                    No, everything is about race to the people who claim that the NBPP case proves that Obama's justice department doesn't prosecute blacks.
                    the guys at the doors of the booth tried to intimidate,

                    A- they weren't at the doors
                    B- they didn't try to intimidate. Pay attention.
                    and the guy at the convention center just hated BO.

                    So did the idiot with the stick.
                    "[Obama is] a puppet on a string. I don't support no black man running for white politics. I will not vote for who will be the next slavemaster."
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                    • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:12 pm ET)
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                      It was you who threw Negrogeddon in there, so I assumed it was your thought process. And I don't blame the NBP for these two idiots, I blame the two idiots exclusively. They were the ones there with the nightstick in the doorway. And if you can explain to me why one would bring a nightstick to a voting booth if it wasn't meant to intimidate, I'd be very appreciative.
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                      • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:15 pm ET)
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                        They were told to bring them there by Republican operatives. It was staged for partisan political purposes, and you bought the lie.

                        You've been punked, Dave.
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                      • Author by Johaely (February 01, 2011 10:37 pm ET)
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                        The person that had the nightstick was told to leave shorlty after the incident. Also, no person has come up saying they were intimidated. It was brought up by two republican attorneys. The Bush administration gave it the same level of attention and importance that Obama did, yet there were no calls of racism aimed at Bush. Hell, they didn't even report it.
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                        • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 10:44 pm ET)
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                          Also, no person has come up saying they were intimidated.

                          Psssh, what do people who were actually there know? They don't have dave's powers of keen insight and really hating poor people.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:05 pm ET)
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                    You've been punked Dave - it was all fake.

                    It turns out that the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which has been devoting a great deal of energy to the matter, finally released the full two-and-a-half-minute video showing the New Black Panthers being chatted up by police outside the polling station in Philadelphia -- and then afterwards, the "poll watchers" -- lawyers hired by the GOP -- orchestrating the scene:

                    http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/full-video-new-black-panthers-scene-
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                    • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:21 pm ET)
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                      Forgive me if I don't buy the crooks and liars description of the events.
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                      • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 10:35 pm ET)
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                        The video's not a dramatization, there, davey boy.
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                        • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:40 pm ET)
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                          The video is pretty self explanatory. Two guys standing in front of a polling place...one has a nightstick. Yup, its for real. Now find the part about them being Republican operatives....ABC? CBS? ABC?
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                        • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:41 pm ET)
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                          There's the authoritarian brain in action, soze. They believe the doctored video, but don't believe the full unedited video because their media masters tell them to believe the doctored video.
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                          • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:53 pm ET)
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                            You haven't yet explained how they were actually R operatives, but you can comment on my authoritarian brain?

                            I've seen the full video. 2 guys in front of a polling place, one has a nightstick, guys in suits, poll watchers, the police, etc. You've yet to explain why they were there with a nightstick, unless it was meant to intimidate. I'm not buying crooks and liars no matter how hard you try.
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                            • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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                              As a public service, I'll run through the facts for ya. Even if you don't believe it was a staged event:

                              There is no New Black Panther Group.

                              The two guys weren't New Black Panthers.

                              Nobody was intimidated.

                              No charges were filed.

                              3 separate investigations (2 by Bush Justice Dept), saw no wrongdoing.

                              Yet you still think it's a big deal. Only because your media masters tell you it's a big deal. That's why you're an authoritarian, Dave.
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                              • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 11:34 pm ET)
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                                Sure, I'll bite.
                                There is a NPB group.
                                No evidence that they weren't part of that group.
                                Nobody came forward to to admit that they were intimidated.(guys with nightsticks by the doors...they were only killing the flies)
                                No charges were filed....read above.
                                And still no proof that they were R operatives.

                                And I think it was a big deal, at least bigger than Rush's golf game....which was a thread.
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                                • Author by peace4all (February 01, 2011 11:47 pm ET)
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                                  wow, with a retort like that how can you go wrong? the only thing better would have been to say "your mama"
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                                • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 11:50 pm ET)
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                                  OK, I was wrong. There is a NPB organization.

                                  And I'll admit that these two guys could have been part of that group, and that hundreds of prospective white voters could have stayed clear because of the two scary black guys, one of whom had a club, that were standing on the sidewalk for a few minutes, and that no charges were filed and because the Obama justice department has got the backs of their fellow black brothers.

                                  Did I get it right? Because sometimes the nutjob conspiracy theories are kinda hard to follow. Thanks in advance for your help.
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              • Author by thaneb (February 01, 2011 9:53 pm ET)
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                "doors of a voting booth"? Are you serious? They were on the sidewalk outside Guild House West. Clearly.
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              • Author by usp (February 01, 2011 9:54 pm ET)
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                lightweights carry night sticks- REAL MEN? they are armed when attending govt. events- you know, like townhall meetings.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:00 pm ET)
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                Dave - apparently you missed the fact that the whole thing was a SET UP, orchestrated by Republican operatives.

                The New Black Panthers were fake. There was no intimidation. It was a Rovian political tactic to spread fear of the dangerous black man.

                You've been punked.
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                • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:27 pm ET)
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                  Find a mainstream media outlet to verify your claim and I'll consider it.
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                  • Author by mmfa.fan (February 01, 2011 10:41 pm ET)
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                    But isn't the mainstream, I mean lamestream, media all librul biased?
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                    • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
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                      Maybe, but I would consider them more credible than Crooks and Liars....which was what I was given.
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                      • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:48 pm ET)
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                        Well here's a thought - do some research yourself. Unless you're an authoritarian, and only believe what your media masters tell you to believe and what news sources they tell you NOT to believe.
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                        • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 11:08 pm ET)
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                          I've done a bit of research on this, I've seen the video, the whole video, and I've yet to hear anyone dispute what the guys there had to say. These retards were not R's. Prove me wrong....your serve.
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                      • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 10:56 pm ET)
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                        Speaking of the media, have you noticed that none of them, Fox included, have given a solitary f-ck about this whole thing since the midterms? Ditto the Ground Zero Vict'ry Sharia Mega-Mosque of Vict'ry. Congrats, you've been played like Lee Atwater's Fender.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (February 01, 2011 10:46 pm ET)
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                    The mainstream media hasn't covered this because IT'S NOT NEWS. It's only news to the authoritarian nutjobs who will use any reason to fear the scary black man.

                    It's a blogosphere-based fraud. The mainstream media has bigger fish to fry.
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                    • Author by dave (February 01, 2011 11:01 pm ET)
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                      Nice way to keep the race thing going. Can you guys even help yourselves from using race? Black men do not scare me...their policies may if they are the POTUS, but not simply because they black.
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                      • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 11:48 pm ET)
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                        Can you guys even help yourselves from using race?

                        Seriously, guy, race-baiting on the right is the only reason this was ever anything resembling an issue. Take it up with them.
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                      • Author by peace4all (February 01, 2011 11:50 pm ET)
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                        Black men do not scare me...their policies may if they are the POTUS, but not simply because they black. ~dave

                        not simply, because but partially right?
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          • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 9:36 pm ET)
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            Seriously, rtownz, did Lila say she'd give you some tongue if you did this or something?
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          • Author by thaneb (February 01, 2011 9:47 pm ET)
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            O'R and S had nothing to do with production of the video so they are not a source on the issue of the nurse. Their agreement is irrelevant there. They are merely conduits. So, you really have no source on the issue of the nurse? All that is available, to my knowledge, is edited video. Let me know if there is more.
            LiveAction is perpetrating the hoax as I stated in my first reply to you which you have failed to rebut.
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            • Author by rtownsend150 (February 01, 2011 10:57 pm ET)
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              No, the entire unedited video is posted on Youtube. I watched the whole thing and LiveAction edited nothing of importance. All they did was cut out the greeting scene and flip the image right-side-up (since it was taken upside down).

              Yeah, it's a hoax, but everyone knows this... the problem was the employee... I doubt a real pimp would want this posted online...

              It is absurd to claim that she was "pretending" to do this to somehow lure the prostitutes into the clinic. If she wanted to do that, she wouldn't have suggested that they take the prostitutes to another clinic! And I doubt she would call her fellow staff member a f***ing c***.

              Could your argument be any more ridiculous?
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              • Author by soze169880 (February 01, 2011 11:50 pm ET)
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                Could your argument be any more ridiculous?

                Yeah, he could be threatening to send Lila Rose checks based on how many thumbs down he got.
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      • Author by iglou (February 01, 2011 9:34 pm ET)
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        Ok, if one persons actions in one instance can be used to judge an organization than I get to call all of Newscorp a sack of liars because Glenn Beck is factually challenged.

        The Hoax is the video being used to portray all of Planned Parenthood. It does not and it can only be used to call into question the action of one employee. Even then circumstance should be considered.

        Otherwise let us call into mind a particular recorded phone call of one Bill-O who confuses a loofah and a falafel and what that entailed. So if that video alone allows us to call into question and judge a person on it's own and thereby the organization they belong to; then Bill-O is guilty of harassment and newscorp itself an organization filled with individuals that sexual harass others.

        Video real yes. Accusations made by those with the video not true.
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        • Author by Quicksilver M.S (February 01, 2011 9:59 pm ET)
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          This morning on Fox and Fiends Glenin Lee beck and later on Live with Megyn Kelly they both attacked Mayor Bloomberg for an undercover investigation about how easy it is to buy Hand guns in Arizona . They reported it as set up and entrapment ! The Mayor had no business doing the story and why about Arizona Gun Shows .

          This undercover video Attacking Planned Parenthood was not called out by O'Really or Stossel as entrapment . O'Really claimed it to be good reporting !
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          • Author by iglou (February 01, 2011 10:15 pm ET)
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            What are you saying BillO is a hypocrite? NO! Perish the thought. He's a good honest man with a bit of loofah/falafel confusion and what they are intended for. That and he bravely pursues stories to their truth... and female co-workers to opposing networks for continued stalking.

            But I'm not saying BillO can't be trusted. He clearly was innocent when he settled with Anrea Mackris...

            Now what is it that BillO says about people who settle lawsuits to keep from going to trial?? ;)
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    • Author by WilliamHolden (February 01, 2011 9:54 pm ET)
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      The story is just a tool to propose cutting of PP from tax money. It didnt work to portray the PP as a organization that is in support of pimps who exploits underage girls.

      Still, they are after PP. No more money for PP. That was what both agreed on.
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    • Author by RKAllen (February 01, 2011 10:39 pm ET)
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      Bill... John... I'm going to let you on a little secret.

      Your worst nightmares... the liberal left embracing pro-life/anti-abortion positions. There is a cadre of progressives prepared to meet this with open arms.

      You want to insist on women carrying their pregnancies to term? You want to eliminate that choice? You want to make women bare a heavy personal and financial burden because you find it morally objectionable. Then guess what boys... you had better be prepared to pay up, cause it is going to cost you!

      - schools
      - adoption/daycare centers
      - hospitals
      - prenatal and postnatal care
      - social workers

      It's gonna be SWEET! Healthcare for all is a gaurantee... at least for women and children.

      I wonder what the CBO would score the repeal of Roe vs. Wade and making the medical procedure illegal? What would the deficit hawks think? Would it be worth it... or should we let this, as they like to put it, "genocide," continue?

      Put a price tag on it and let's see what they say!
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      • Author by grmce (February 01, 2011 11:03 pm ET)
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        Small correction, Roe v Wade, as a judicial ruling on a constitutional matter, cannot be repealed. It could, under certain circumstances be overturned by the Supreme Court.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (February 01, 2011 10:44 pm ET)
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      Kind of ironic O'Reilly saying it's just like ACORN since it's a heavily edited tape made by the same kind of underhanded right-wing tea-tarded liars that decided ACORN had to go down.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (February 01, 2011 10:58 pm ET)
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      Republican party claims they are attacking planned parenthood to protect black people.They say planned parent only sets their operation up in black neighborhoods to kill black babies.......Planned parenthood sets up on the edge of black neighborhoods.The set up on the edge so it will be convient for white people to get to with-out anybody seeing them go there
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    • Author by spacegod (February 02, 2011 10:15 am ET)
         
      Stuff I Thought I'd Never Hear #367:

      STOSSEL: The government gave a group 100 millio--thousand dollars to a group to teach Creationism.

      O'REILLY: That's insane!
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