Beck: Reform Judaism Is "Almost Like ... Radicalized Islam" In That It Is "More About Politics" Than Faith And Religion
From the February 22 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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Previously:
Repair The World's Will Berkovitz: Beck Letter Signed By Rabbis From Across The Political Spectrum
STU BURGUIERE (executive producer): And now remember, this is all fueled by an organization that Soros funds, that has a bunch of progressive rabbis that came out against Glenn and said --
BECK: OK, you have to -- hang on just a second. When you talk about rabbis, understand that most -- most people who are not Jewish don't understand that there are the Orthodox rabbis, and then there are the Reformed rabbis. Reformed rabbis are generally political in nature. It's almost like Islam, radicalized Islam in a way, to where it is just -- radicalized Islam is less about religion than it is about politics. When you look at the Reform Judaism, it is more about politics. I'm not saying that they're the same on --
BURGUIERE: No, obviously not.
BECK: -- and they're going to take it at that, but -- stand in line.
BURGUIERE: "Glenn Beck says --"
BECK: It's not about terror or anything else, it's about politics, and so it becomes more about politics than it does about faith. Orthodox rabbis -- that is about faith. There's not a single Orthodox rabbi on this list. This is all Reformed rabbis that were -- that made this list.
BURGUIERE: Yeah, I don't know that for a fact. I know that certainly this organization is a progressive political organization. And that's fine.
Beck is one of those people who don't understand.
First of all, there is no such thing as "Reformed" rabbis. They are "Reform" rabbis. I think Beck must be confusing them with alcohol and drug abusers like himself.
Secondly, there are Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform. All of them are centered on faith, not politics. However, all of them permit participation in politics and as many Orthodox Jews do so as Reform.
Finally, there are many orthodox and Conservative rabbis on the list that Jewish Funds for Justice published, so Beck is just lying about that (surprise).
Except for members of the Tea Party, I believe most people know Glenn is a liar, charlatan, and knows nothing about everything.
How many outrageous Nazi references about your political opponents have you made Glennie? How many times have a prominent Faux News personality made Nazi comparisons against people they disagree with? Impossible to answer because they're too many to count
To Beck, the only good "real jews" are the ones who follow his political ideology.
Sez dropout Beck, "That's what a meta's for!"
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The All-Knowing, All-Seeing Prophet-For-Profit and star of The Glenn Beck Factfromassing and Old Time Gospel Hour strikes again.
Idiocy at the speed of lies.
Yes.
I think it reflects a human inclination to hear what one wants to hear and filter out the rest.
And that's all I can really say in answer to this. My response must be even tempered and above this remark.
Let Beck's words speak for themselves as to what he is.
No amount of whispering or even shouting will get past the sounds in Glenn's head:
- 4 punk rock bands playing simultaneously with all instruments out of tune,
- 68 pairs of mating cats,
- 1 tube-type console AM radio with it's dial being spun back and forth.
Oh, and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir belting out The Battle Hymn of the Republic.
I find this sentence redundant, as I am unaware of other types of punk rock bands.
Using "out of tune" was my attempt to help create the ultimate cacophony - just misfingering chords while staggering wildly through different keys just didn't seem to adequately capture the racket inside Glenn's hat holder.
I was in high school in the 70s, when the airwaves were dominated by the likes of ELO and Journey. It was the UK punk bands and the scene here in SoCal that made me remember what I loved about the early Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Seeds, etc.
Spending a lot of time tuning and spit-polishing is great for classical or jazz, highly overrated for rock & roll.
Hey, at least he's an equal opportunity phobe!
And it's nice that Glennie goes after Reform Judaism comparing them to Islamic hardliners. Apparently anyone who speaks anything negative about poor little Glennie is OBVIOUSLY a terror-loving, America-hating, freedom-despising dirtbag.
Yeah you just keep making more enemies with your lunacy Beckie-boy!
I think Soros's point could have just as easily stopped at the hyperbolic Orwell point (and in my opinion, it's an easy line to cross. Hell Beck's show has used aesthetics that I thought were pretty similar - when they would have the screen in the back show just bold white text on a black background of a word from Beck's rant that people were supposed to focus on) without going to the Nazi thing. I'll admit it could be a bit p---yfooting (not sure if that'd be considered a curse) around the subject, but I think it was crossing the line.
Exactly! A person Like Mr. Soros, who is a Holocaust surviver, is the perfect judge of who, or who is not, acting like a Nazi. Sorry Jon Stewart, but not all Nazi comparisons are innappropriate.
Actually Kevin, I dont think the comparison of Glenn Beck to the media world imagined by Orwell is hyperbolic at all.
In fact, I think it is quite appropriate and demonstrably applicable. In a very specific sense, Soros is completely right here.
If you look at what Beck actually does, it really is quite close to the style and method of propaganda which typifies Orwells distopian INGSOC society. The same holds true for Fox News and Andrew Breitbart.
Consider the attacks on ACORN or Planned Parenthood. In these cases, we have recklessly ideological kids distorting footage in order to contrive the appearance of a seriously terrible crime, which actually is not happening. That false appearance was then later used to force public policy.
For example, BigGovernment.com (principally through Glenn Beck) sold the idea that ACORN was helping James Okeefe and Hannah Giles traffic in underage prostitutes, when in fact the unedited footage later proved that such was not the case at all.
Without any investigation, the tapes were launched by Beck, and promoted as evidence for child postitution by a supposedly nefarious orgnaization with strong political capital.
That false picture ruined the lives of innocent people by slandering them with the very serious but trumped up charge of being complicit in child prostitution. As a result of this propaganda (and with a speed completely uncharacteristic of Congress), ACORN was declared guilty, and defunded without any due process.
An organization that did good work helping poor Americans was maligned and destroyed long before any investigation or review could rightly detail the truth. (Meanwhile, KBR and Haliburton, despite the Jamie Leigh Jones case, get free passes from Beck, Breitbart, the GOP and Fox.)
Orwells Thought Police and MiniTrue were described as acting in very much the same way (of course, with a much more visceral pproach.) It relied on maligning political targets with false charges of prostitution and drug trafficking, and used media telescreens to press such charges, complete with false confessions.
In fact, the whole modus operandi used by Fox, Beck, BigGovernment.com and the rest of the right-wing political-media complex is really just too close to the INGSOC model (sans the massive prisons and torture chambers) to really escape notice by anyone familiar with 1984.
It might not be Winston in Room 101, but Becks deliberate cultivation and management of political hysteria is not that different at all from the Two Minute Hate. He even includes the treasonous and conspiratorial Goldstein revamped as the supposed puppet master George Soros.
Without tying a rat cage to a detainees face, how much more Orwellian does one need to be?
The difference between what Soros did, by talking about how Fox engages in propaganda, and what Glennie does is vast. Glennie used weasel words to accuse Soros of being a Nazi collaborator. He also accused him of being evil and a puppetmaster. Soros accuses Fox of propaganda and misinformation to quash dissent. And Glennie, what is wrong with America being an open society or a democracy (rule by the people)? Why do you keep insisting that the United States is a Republic, ruled by a small group in the name of the people? What you really love is oligarchy, because you think you've earned some place at the table. Well, you may have but it's more like being Murdoch's nasty lap dog.
Real rabbis are about faith and Reform rabbis are about politics.
(Because Reform rabbis don't lead services, marry people, bury people, counsel people, teach their congregants about the traditions of their faith . . . none of that stuff.)
Thanks for clearing that up, Rebbe.
And the Beckerheads will defend this and pretend that they're not bigots. Disgusting.
It was a drag most of the time. I must have been absent the day they scheduled the suicide bombing instructions.
I'm still laughing!
Reformed Egyptian is famously the name given to the language of the Golden Tablets translated by Prophet Joseph Smith to give us the deathless prose of the Book of Mormon.
Good Reference!
Reform Judaism is not like Radicalized Islam.
A belief in the human intellect, and in The Presence He Who Must Not Be Named, is really quite different from a suicide bomber who wants to kill innocent people.
You know nothing about Judaism, or Jews, Glenn.
And I'm not even Jewish.
That brings me to the comment referenced above. I am a reform Jew. Beck does not know anything about that type of Judaism, or anything else about the religion. His mike deserves to be permanently cut. He will always be welcome on the 1, 2 or 3 trains in rush hour.
We know what you are.
Is Beck consistent enough to say that ?
He could also have used the examples of Orthodox and Reformed Denominations within the Mormon Church for a comparison of the diferences between Orthodox and Reform Judaism.
But his tiny wittle mind automatically reached for the most vile group around to link his Jewish detractors to in his efforts to demonize those who have the cajones to confront him about his Anti-Semitic hate-filled rants.
He CHOSE to use Islam for a comparison to Judaism.
And he got it all bass ackwards because he knows little to nothing about Judaism.
If he had one real, actual damn clue about Religion/s in general he would know well that in both Islam and Judaism, (and Christianity) it is the Far Right, Ultra- Fundamentalist, Ultra-Orthodox within those Religions who are the radical extremists who use the quise of "faith" to justify their "rights" and "duty" to use violence and terrorism to accomplish their Religious, Social and Political objectives.
Glenn did not do his homework and his own research or he would have known all that and would have known that it is "Orthodox Judaism" that is more comparable to "Radicalized Islam" NOT "Reform Judaism".
Even then one must be diligent to add the qualifier that it is "ULTRA-Orthodox Judaism" that is the most comparable to "Radicalized Islam".
Glenn should have done his own homework and research, independently of any input from the "Rabbi" who Glenn calls "My Rabbi", Daniel Lapin, one who employs and utilizes very fluid and slippery semantics to navigate the waters of discussion when the subject is "Jews" and/or "Judaism".
Lapin certainly is not going to point out to Glenn that the Ultra- Orthodox faction ,which is just one step to the Right of Lapin's own Orthodox Judaism, is the one which is most "like Radicalized Islam" !!
Hell, Lapin could not even bring himself to admit that there was even "a single Orthodox Rabbi on the list" of the signatories of the Open Letter to Rupert Murdocah that they put in the WaPo!
http://newswithviews.com/Lapin/daniel105.htm
But could it possibly be that the wittle addlepated mind of Glennie the goy was simply not able to connect the profuse political activity of Rabbi Lapin to Orthodox Judaism? Seriously?
In the mind of Glennie the goy , "Orthodox" Rabbi's like Lapin are the shining example of a Religious, Faith focused non-political life of an Orthodox Rabbi??
Glennn the dupe needs to get his head out of Lapin's backside and do his own homework & research before he makes yet another ignorant and ill informed statement on ANYTHING and ANYONE that is Jewish.