John Stossel Moderates A "Debate" Between Rep. Ron Paul And ... An Obama Impersonator
April 28, 2011 11:11 pm ET
From the April 28 edition of Fox Business' Stossel:
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Also is that the best they could do on the lookalike? Maybe its just from my uncanny gay fashion sense, but such an obviously different set of cheekbones completely obliterates any illusion.
Stupid, poorly made, and overall lame.
Yep. That's Fox.
You are a MORON. He made a jape on the stupidity of the rightwing and you piped up to show us AGAIN how stupid you wingnuts are
typical, hypocritical, meaningless drivel from you
You have Stossel's intellectual and moral integrity. That's not a compliment, in case you thought otherwise.
By attacking directly, I don't mean disagreeing with his policies and therefore considering him an incapable president by showing how his policies don't make sense. That sort of attack I can understand the rationale behind.
What I'm referring to are the birthers who are trying to call him out on his BC, or claiming he isn't legit because his father was Kenyan, along with the general group who call him all sort of endearing names like "bastard" or "racist" or depict him in deamining ways (such as making communist of nazi comparisons).
The rationale behind these sorts of attacks hasn't been properly explained yet. Given that this is the case, it is I would say a reasonable assumption that such attacks are made on the basis of the bigoted opinion of racism or perhaps on the notion that he is "far from being mainstream American". Of course these are simply assumptions that are not necessarily factual, but given the fact that those who oppose them cannot read the minds of these attackers, its only natural they come up with an assumption on what the basis for these attacks could be, racism.
YOU can put all this to rest. As one who is from the right (I presume, correct me if I'm wrong), you should have a good idea what the basis of and rationale behind such attacks are. You (an in fact any from the right are welcome to reply) are invited to give your opinion on the rationale behind such attacks.
that was really funny.
How do you mean Marker? CenterRight provides plenty of comedy on this site. All his posts are a joke.
Now I'm ready to admit that this segment was neither. It certainly wasn't "business news" or news of anything.
Faux needs to partition out a straw man department and put all of their content in there.
When they're pointed out, it doesn't affect them. They keep demanding that people defend the imaginary arguments they attribute to Teh Leftists.
It's like while the rest of us were learning about logical fallacies, and having it explained that they were a tacit admission that one had surrendered, they were being taught that these same fallacies were secret weapons.
This segment is just screaming loudly " Hey ! Here's our straw man! We are not ashamed to admit that's all we got!"
I've found Obama's choice of "I'm making a point" phrases to be kind of funny. There's a clip floating out there somewhere of Obama saying "Now, let me be clear..." put to music. So if you just strip away, well, audio and video from the clip and just render a transcript, some of the Obama lines were a half-decent satire.
The side note here would be why would anyone agree to do this sort of bit?
Must be the Caliphate in him, I reckon.
I agree, " I'm making a point..." does seem like one of those unnecessary phrases. Why don't you just make the point ? I also think Obama takes those pauses when he's searching for the words he really wants to use that are fine in one-on-one conversation, but are targets for those who hate him, the people who love pithy sound-bite, bumper sticker lines.
There's another phrase Obama uses that bugs me, GW Bush used it a lot, too. Maybe it's a regional thing, but I don't recall hearing it much before W, and that's "Make no mistake...", usually introducing the speakers position or opinion.
I guess it means roughly " Don't get me wrong...", but it always sounds to me like the speaker is implying the audience is screwing up if they don't agree.
It's OK in a conversation, or a classroom setting, but could be a negative in politics, where it's necessary to get at least some of the middle, the short-attention-span America that likes it delivered hot and fast. This was probably more common in a president before the age of electronic media.
I'm not talking about the Fox "news" base, the far right fringe, Obama doesn't have to worry about them, they hate him with a passion before he says a word.
They like Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin, people who have never been known to take a thoughtful pause while speaking.
The right wing authoritarian brain likes quick, simple messages, delivered in a neat package, and repeated endlessly.
On the other hand, Bush's problem was that he never thought before he spoke. He just blurted it out and hilarity unsued.
You don't hear chattering monkeys stammer or pause to reflect.
That being said, this was a dumb segment. At least bring in a progressive for Paul to debate, not a Obama impersonator.
On top of that, he's at least closely connected to white supremacists, if not actually one himself, which puts his participation in this right-winger joke of an "interview" into a sinister new light. After all, the entire segment is based on the racist "they all look alike" meme.
Do you have any evidence he's a white supremacist or should we believe you because YOU said so?
But whether you like it or not, Paul is at least closely connected to white supremacists, if not one himself. That is what I wrote, and it is the truth. Deal with it.
But never mind that, Ron Paul has sensible ideas. <_<
Well, at least (at last?) I know of one in Tucson....
. . . of laughter, at the thought of FOX's attempt at comedy . . .
This "Ron Paul", and this "Obama", may be a holograms produced by the same sofware that runs most of the trolls at this site. "Obama"s statements ( Mostly direct quotes from the president, as Stossel so responsibly says) are very similar to the statements that follow the words "so you're saying...", or "so your position is..." in the righties re-framing of peoples' words that happens here.
If only a real Republican candidate could get a Dem to state, during a debate " The government needs to do everything", or "Taxing the rich will solve our debt all by itself", I'm sure they'd do a lot better in these debates.
Until then, we can't really blame them for using the Ron Paul Avatar delivering talking points punch lines, or the Sarah Palin mannequin refusing to answer those pesky "questions".
And who green-screened the human heads onto those clapping libertarian seals in the audience?
And what's with all of those quotation marks in my post, and around "Obama" in the chyron ? Nobody said those things !
He also shows that he only has a very basic understanding of economics. In basic economics, markets are perfect, information is perfect, there is perfect rationality. That is not necessarily the case in the real world to put it mildly.
I could go on, but I will end by saying that I used to believe these libertarian simpletons, then I studied economics as my major in college.
That's ok. His base will forget this farce before the sun rises again.
I'm just relieved Stossel didn't use Hannity in blackface.
Randy
Randy
PS to our trolls: Ted Danson made an a$$ of himself when he did it, so stop bring it up. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Seriously, I don't get or understand why people respect him or his "positions." Like any Republican, Ron Paul will say anything to get elected.
If Ron Paul had ANY convictions of his own, he wouldn't be spending ANY time with the carnival barkers on Fox. He's no different from the Donald, except that Mr. Paul is an actual elected Representative and votes on legislation.
So much so, I'm embarrassed to watch this.
When you realize you can't, please also realize that you are literally an ignoramus, moron, dummy, stupid, uneducated, simple minded (and any other word you can think of along these lines) for thinking this is appropriate and relevant to the conversation.
These people want to run the country? Jesus, Allah, Buddah, Rah, please help us. We need you now more than ever before.
But one minor point:
"Ra" is the usual (in my neck of the woods) spelling for the sun god.
"RAH" are the initials of Robert Anson Heinlein, noted SF writer and completely rabid libertarian...his characters' ethics and motivations are a Rand Paul wet dream, until you realize that for the way stuff happens in his books to ever exist, something really wonderful has to happen to society first (longevity promoted by one dying rich guy, space travel championed by a visionary tycoon of industry, FTL drive by a rogue genius, etc. )
"Stranger in a Strange Land" is still a good read, tho, for it's take on religion.
Just sayin...
The Governor of New Jersey is going to subsidize the Xanadu Mall with $400 million in economic development bonds. Link
Yet it is okay to layoff teachers. Repubs never want to cut the corporate welfare
This is what is passing as professional, reputable journalism these days?
Even when he's not doing blatant schtick like this - remember: this guy was once a well-respected journalist - his exposes, stories and analysis always REAKED of intellectual dishonesty.
I'll never understand why people are so impressed with him. He's a baffoon. And the gaps in his arguments are big enough to drive trucks thourgh - when he's TRYING.
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He does really rock the pedo-stache, I must say.
Yet the bad heavily outweigh by the good.
Is the FEC afraid of Fox or what????
But since it's early I guess all they could say was "VOTE GOP, VOTE REPUBLICAN or your FAMILY may die." That's their usual message.
Watch from the 1 Minute mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3enHIM65oro&feature=related
and dont forget the dancing Aryan foxettes who will make believe that a white woman is getting raped by a obama look alike, to prove their not all racists....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAsFNhON6Zg&feature=player_embedded
Why isn't Howie (I hate MSNBC) Kurtz jumping all over this?