Limbaugh: Casey Anthony Would Have Been "A Star" And "A Hero" To The Media If She'd Had An Abortion
July 06, 2011 12:55 pm ET
From the July 6 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
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It was interesting to see how he behaved--and I do mean "behaved" in conjunction with his carefully stage managed trip to Joplin, MO to bring pallets of that ice tea he's plugging. His words were at a minimum, free of overt political content, and light on the snarky insinuations. Apparently he's learned to behave himself in public; it's only in the safety of his hermetically sealed studio that he can cut loose and say almost anything without care, worry, or shame
It is clear that the jury had no intentions of convicting this lying defendant. Talk about a joke. The Jury ignored all the evidence, suspicious behavior and liars, including the baseless accusation her father and brother molested her. This Jury did not even consider the fact that Casey said her daughter drowned in the family pool, after claiming for three years she was kidnapped. The Jury did not consider that Casey Anthony lied and changed her story many times, if they did they would wonder, why. The Jury did not consider that an accident to a child should never end up looking like a murder. The Jury overlooked the fact Casey did not report her daughter missing for 31 days, in fact, Casey didn't report her daughter missing to police, her mother did. This is a horrible verdict and it sends a terrible message to the American people, mothers in particular, that all you have to do is hide the truth and stick with your lies and rely on a sympathetic Jury to suspend all logic and common sense. Oh yeah, you better hope you are white.
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This has far more social implications and yet it is being ingnored for the most part.
They rarely cover how dysfunctional the "system" of immigration has become. Lots of rich people are getting richer off this dysfunction--private prisons, agri-business, meat packing conglomerates, etc.
But that's a rant for another thread. Limpy is manufacturing some kind of analogy from his source material: his pilonidal cyst.
And when the jury comes in with a not guilty verdict everyone is shocked. This circus is just another diversion which allows fat cats like Limbaugh create a false analogy to one of his pet topics, abortion. A topic about which he doesn't care one bit. He knows that's what the mouth breathers and their cousins/spouses want to hear.
Rant away Mary. The indifference of the average American towards things that really matter is sickening. We need to keep banging our heads against the wall until things change. In the long run, it's less painful than doing nothing.
Apparently, sordid murder trials involving pretty young white women (either as victim or accused) always take precedence.
Was this a horrible tragedy? Yes, absolutely. Probably, for everyone involved.
Are a lot more horrible things happening to other people in our country every single day? Answer = YES!
The media does fixate on the pretty defendents, the pretty victims, all the while, ignoring the folks are far more often victims, who turn out to be minorities.
She was, apparently, a bad mother and a liar, but there was no evidence presented that she harmed her child.
Again, blame the prosecution for presenting a weak case. They own it.
Raven, you're right, there was no physical evidence, but how many 2 year old do you know find there way to a swamp, stuffed in a garbage bag with their blanket from their bed?
Now I can understand some confusion with the forensics of the case, but ANYONE, using just a little common sense, would wonder how does a 2 year old child go missing and her own mother, the last person she was with, never bothers to report her missing to anyone.
Do I accept this jury decision? You bet, because while in our system, justice is not always served, it is better than many of the alternatives.
But as a great grandmother to a 2 1/2 year old granddaughter, this family, this case and this verdict makes me sick to my stomach.
That's their duty, just as it was the duty of the prosecution to prove that Casey Anthony caused the death of her child . . . they just didn't do it in this case. Was she a crappy mother? Looks like it. Did she kill her child? Maybe. Should she have been punished for something? Probably.
The fact is that if you make yourself look guilty, if you create huge mountains of doubt, then you've made the prosecution's case already. A simple description of the situation establishes that doubts of the obvious conclusion are not "reasonable".
What constitutes a reasonable doubt, based on the evidence? What convoluted set of circumstances and psychological contortions would possibly explain what happened? If the defense doesn't present it, then they have not shown how there's a reasonable doubt.
Given the concept of "innocent until proven guilty", which way do you think the jury should have swung?
Bintx, people, when deciding who to believe and what makes sense, must apply some common sense thinking.
In the drug case example, common sense says a car will have several occupants in the passenger seat, so you can't prove an old joint found under the seat of the current occupant would automatically belong to the occupant.
In the Anthony case, this child was last seen alive leaving her home with her mother. The next time anyone saw this child, she was deceased, in skeletal form with duck tape wrapped around her mouth and nose.
In the time between the child left her home and the time she was found dead, her mother never reported her missing, lied to her family and police about her daughter being kidnapped by a nanny that didn't exist, lied to the police about the last time she saw her daughter alive, lied to the police about a job she hadn't had for more than 2 years, lied to friends about the child being with the nanny that doesn't exist, and common sense says this mother had some role in the death of her child.
Looking at all of the lies the mother told, what other logical explanation could you conclude when the child is seen alive one morning with her mother and never seen alive again?
And that's just George. Casey, obviously, has too much bizarre behavior to explain for the rest of her life.
How much lower was the prosecution supposed to go than aggravated child abuse? And they didn't get that? That's pure insanity to anyone who's actually been following this case.
The prosecution presented a very crappy case. Blame the prosecution. They dropped the ball.
BTW, if "following this case" included watching those idiots on HLN, Nancy Grace and Jane Velez-whatever, you weren't "following this case," you were listening to a couple of sensationalists vying for ratings. Trial by television is very, very bad for our justice system.
Also, please explain the web searches for me. I'm dying to hear this. In a case where the physical evidence is compromised due to time passed (where the mother, strangely enough, delayed and deceived the police at every possible opportunity), what more evidence of premeditation could you have than web searches regarding chloroform, neck-breaking, and making weapons out of household items? What's the standard of proof, she had to put "I'm going to kill my child today", as her Facebook status, or what?
I deal with this sort of thing all the time. I've been in civil defense law for almost 26 years and before that worked in the criminal justice system.
Ever read a jury charge? Here are the first two jury instructions from our standard charge.
I'll repeat, the prosecution dropped the ball. I'll also repeat, I'm not defending Casey Anthony or any of her loony family. I'm just saying that if the prosecution had done their job properly, this case may have resulted in a verdict more to your liking. Put the blame where it belongs . . . on the prosecution. It was THEIR job to prove their case, and they didn't.
What was the explanation for the "household weapons" search, again? If there was none, then the explanation for a different search by itself is void.
The defense was as shocked at the not guilty verdict as the majority of the public was.
The best prosecuting attorneys in the world can do an excellent job of presenting the States case, and it means nothing if you have a pitiful jury. And yes even with the screening it is possible to end up with twelve idiots on the jury. It is rare but it does happen.
I have listened to two of the jurors and an alternate juror since the verdict was read. I'm amazed that they sound as if they have convicted George Anthony on every charge made against him. Without any proof what so ever. Yet, asked about every charge against Casey they claim there was no proof.
Why do they think she was lying about every thing they did find her guilty of lying about? Including lying about telling two coworkers that Caylee was missing, during which time she was out parting??
Now, after listening to a background summary of each of the jurors I'm not surprised at their verdict.
I worked for the County District Attorney for twelve years,(the largest county in the state) and have been called back in regularly to train new employees or cover vacations etc. for the last twelve years. This office has prosecuted some of the most notorious cases in the country. One case very similar to the Anthony case. Many books and movies have been made of it. I can say with certainty that every Attorney and the head DA are stunned and outraged at the Anthony verdict.
I watched most of the trial live on Truetv. Many of my friends watched the entire trial. Our only concern at the time was that she would win on an appeal just because her attorney was so terrible in court.
Sorry, this is one of the rare occasions I question the jurors, not the presentation by the State. Those twelve dropped the ball. And so far, one of them, this morning as much as admitted that.
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I noticed you in this argument on several other threads too. Did you happen to see my reply to Bintx on this thread? I spent the 4th barbecuing with the DA, the former DA of 34 years, and five deputy DAs, plus their attorney spouses. That's where my information came from.
You're a perfect example of why they screen jurists.
I find it hard to believe that you know what they "considered".
There's a difference between proof and accusations, and accusations is all that the State had. All the Defense had to do was point it out.
Does this mean that Rush is a fan of three-year late-term abortions?
This is encredibly stupid, even for el Fathead.
Give me an example of a woman who is praised for having an abortion, Rush.
I have known just a couple of women in my lifetime who have had abortions for whatever reason. And I can tell you, that in my limited experience, they both thought long and hard about. The consequences of it. How it would weigh on them. How it would weigh on the other person who was involved. What would happen if she had the child. What would happen if she had the child and gave it up for adoption. What would happen if she gave birth. We're talking mind blowing heart wrenching decision here.
And while it is possible that some may get an abortion, and not think too much about it, most think about it long and hard, and hardly is it ever an esay decision. And of course, the media doesn't praise them for it. That's just ridiculous.
Bingo.
Women have been shamed by society into thinking that they've made a horrible decision...and made it lightly.
I'll come out--had one because of a birth control failure. Wasn't ready to have a child--didn't have health insurance, still in college. I still don't feel guilty or like I 'murdered' my child. I feel the same way about that private decision my partner and I made with my doctor that I feel about our decision to be sterilized after our second child was born. It's a RIGHT TO PRIVACY, TO MAKE MY OWN DECISION. Yet, if I were to tell one of my students about it, there could be repurcussions. Of course, if I told that same student about having a cancerous mass removed from my uterine wall, it would OK. Same procedure nearly.
Ahhh....here's an interesting thought: I had an abortion because I didn't have health insurance. So maybe it's the Reich's fault! LOL...
Amazing, eh?
Before my first child was born, I had a miscarriage at 6 weeks. Some Republican legislators would want that investigated. They are just creeps.
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And the mother wonders why her daughter and her family don't want anything to do with her and her judgmental god.
PP prevented an unwanted pregnancy and possibly an abortion (I don't know what she would have done) right there by providing the friend with birth control for the years she was 16 and 17.
Think of the problems that would be saved if we had universal health care--like the civilized world does.
PCPs can not see patients if they don't want to. PP will take those individuals. PCPs can be very expensive, especially for a young person who's doing nothing but taking responsibility of their own lives. PP will accommodate their needs.
This is the problem with the right wing of today: They can't seem to fathom scenarios they've never been in or never heard of; they can't see past their own small worlds into our big one. There is no empathy on the right, none. (Of course, this is what Ayn Rand promoted, and her word's become some sort of sick gospel on the right.)
Your attitude towards Planned Parenthood accurately reflects the mindset of the people who want to defund it. You don't see the organization as having any worth, because it has no worth to your masters.
You wrongly think it is some sort of abortion factory where pregnant women go in one side, and aborted fetuses come out the other because you were TOLD to think that. You foolishly ignore all the services that it provides in the realm of women's health and you also convienently ignore the fact that PP has prevented an explosion of abortions by eliminating the risk of unwanted pregnancy through birth control and sexual education.
I'd like to be more open about my experience in a public forum in order to help women who have had or may have abortions deal with it and not feel ashamed about their decision, because there is no shame in it. Alas, for now anyway, resources and time haven't permitted me to do such a thing.
I don't believe hardly anyone's decision to this is taken lightly.
What the alleged pro lifers seem to forget about, is that being pro life, is being pro choice, as in, let each person make their own decision. It has no bearing on their lives if someone has an abortion, and if there is a God, let her/him judge said person at the time of their death. In other words, stop worrying about it, and stop trying to turn our country back into the 50's, where women died because they couldn't get access to legal abortions.
And conservatives say they love "freedom".
Now if we could pull the plug on his Gaseousness, Media Matters could tackle much more relevant misinformation (like Jim DeMint, King Grover Norquist and the variety of Republicant Governors who have infected our body politic.)
Limbaugh is sounding more & more unhinged these days, could be just a matter of time before he gets Becked* ;-)
Becked = Shown the door
Who said that posting Beck's lying crap here wasn't relevant?
All that was being discussed was how Beck was Bashing himself (often by trying to bash others) just about every time he went on the air.
Also your situation never happened. Casey killed her daughter and the media loathes her (with good reason) and never shuts up of how terrible she is. You just don't want to appear on the same side as them. If the media announced water to be wet, you would say "well if this totally different and not even happening scenario happened, the lamestream media would call water dry".
No, she just would have one of the many ordinary women who exercised her legal right to NOT be forced into a motherhood she clearly wasn't ready for.
Considering the horrible results that came from her NOT exercising that right... you STILL want to claim she shouldn't have been allowed to have an abortion?
I'm pro-choice by the way. I kinda have to be...since I already have made that choice back in the day. Life begins outside the womb, IMO. It's the only issue where most conservatives refuse to support the individual (mother). I am against partial-birth abortions though. If you haven't made up your mind by the third trimester, tough.
Hey, I take exception to that!
Why didn't you mention the pederasty jokes?
Educate yourself.
Very unusual opinion. Quite rare, in fact. Then you say the following:
"I am against partial-birth abortions though. If you haven't made up your mind by the third trimester, tough."
Now I am confused.
"I'm pro-choice by the way. I kinda have to be...since I already have made that choice back in the day"
That sounds like you have, in the past, been an involved party in a decision to have an abortion.
Some people modify their views somewhat, after having a child. Do you have no children yet? Just asking.
One day Rush will make a comment that is too extreme even for his advertisers to overlook.
No, she is a GOP darling because she committed murder and got away with it.