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Fox's Megyn Kelly: Pepper Spray Used On UC-Davis Protesters Is "A Food Product, Essentially"

November 21, 2011 10:23 pm ET

From the November 21 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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Previously:

Jim Hoft On UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident: "How To Shut Down A Row Of Screeching Libs In 4 Easy Swoops"

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    • Author by gg (November 21, 2011 10:31 pm ET)
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      So when someone barfs on you that is essentially a food product.

      Hey O'Reilly, if you want to get these students off the campus, give them back their tuition and they will leave.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (November 22, 2011 12:32 am ET)
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        that pepper spray looked a lot like agent orange
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        • Author by danielsangeo (November 22, 2011 2:04 am ET)
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          Oranges are good for you. You can make orange juice out of them and drink it as part of a complete breakfast. Surely, there's no problem with an "Agent Orange" right?
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        • Author by mari2jj (November 22, 2011 5:48 pm ET)
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          Well, truly if she thinks that Pepper Spray is so innocuous, surely she will be only too happy to let me pepper spray her. Sounds fair to me!
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        • Author by mari2jj (November 23, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
             
          Really Kelly, then you would not mind being sprayed with this food product to show that you are totally committed to this truly stupid statement. Otherwise, just shut up as far as I am concerned.
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      • Author by Turkeysocks (November 22, 2011 3:33 am ET)
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        I will say this gg, if Megyn would go on air, and use the same type of pepper spray that was used on those UC-Davis protesters on something she would put pepper on. And she ate the WHOLE THING on air without making a wince.

        I will accept her reasoning of it being "a food product, essentially".
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      • Author by mari2jj (November 22, 2011 6:09 pm ET)
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        Poor Megyn, ignorance at it's worst. I mean you have to be really stupid to make a stupid statement like this. Wonder if she even knows about Fact Check? But the best response yo her was the rejoinder was, is "Barf, a food product". Wins on every count!
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    • Author by Conchobhar (November 21, 2011 10:32 pm ET)
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      Sweet, William. It's a "liberal campus," so anything goes, and you can't second guess the police.
      This whole conversation is bogus, both legally and morally.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (November 21, 2011 10:37 pm ET)
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        Megyn should have done a little research before pontificating. She's dead wrong, and those protesters have good standing to sue, with a powerful precedent.
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        • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (November 22, 2011 4:15 am ET)
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          Fantastic link!!!


          United States Court of Appeals,Ninth Circuit.
          HEADWATERS FOREST DEFENSE v. COUNTY OF HUMBOLDT

          The Fourth Amendment permits law enforcement officers to use only such force to effect an arrest as is "objectively reasonable" under the circumstances.
          ......

          Characterizing the protestors' activities as "active resistance" is contrary to the facts of the case, viewing them, as we must, in the light most favorable to the protestors:  the protestors were sitting peacefully, were easily moved by the police, and did not threaten or harm the officers. In sum, it would be clear to a reasonable officer that it was excessive to use pepper spray against the nonviolent protestors under these circumstances.
          .......

          We concluded in our prior opinion that, viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the protestors, a rational juror could conclude that the use of pepper spray against the protestors constituted excessive force and that (Officers) Lewis and Philip were liable for the protestors' unconstitutional injury.... (and they) violated the protestors' Fourth Amendment right to be free from excessive force.
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        • Author by wookie (November 22, 2011 7:54 am ET)
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          That's the part I liked. "We don't have the right to Monday morning quarterback the police." Of course! We smaller government conservatives should just accept increased police power!
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        • Author by shaggles (November 22, 2011 11:26 am ET)
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          Research?!?!?! We don't need no stinking research!
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        • Author by GiveMeABreak (November 22, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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          I hope those protestors are given this knowledge...
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        • Author by markbfoot199 (November 22, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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          How about next time when your told that you have to leave, you leave.

          "Authorities warned demonstrators to take down their camp between the Memorial Union and Shields Library and disperse at about 3:00 p.m. Friday, and when the “Occupy UC Davis” protesters refused, police officers moved in a half hour later." T

          They were given a warning, they ignored, so no case.
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          • Author by achrispage6992 (November 22, 2011 12:41 pm ET)
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            So that give the police the authority to use how much force in your opinion? Would a good beating with the nightstick been excessive in your view? How about rubber bullets? What about deadly force? Tell us oh wise one, given the non-violent posture of the protesters, how much force is too much force?
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          • Author by n'est-ce pas (November 22, 2011 12:43 pm ET)
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            And the Dipsh!t of the Day comment goes to....

            I just love these Right Wing Authoritarians. They talk all kinds of trash about the government and tyranny and how they won't be pushed around, until the cops get violent. Then it's all, "Yes'm boss! Sure thing, sir! Anything you say!"
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          • Author by chazmanr (November 22, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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            How about the 1st Amendment?
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            • Author by Conchobhar (November 22, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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              Reich whingers only respect the 2nd. The 1st and 4th they'd get rid of in a heartbeat.
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              • Author by Chameo (November 22, 2011 6:51 pm ET)
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                No, they wouldn't get rid of any of them -- they like to lay claim to their 1st and 4th amendment rights. What they'd do in a heartbeat is change the definition of citizen so that it only applied to their own restrictive rules, rather like they're changing voting rules to make it harder for people who don't fit their "profile" to vote.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (November 22, 2011 3:00 pm ET)
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            They were given a warning, they ignored, so no case.
            Pitiful.
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          • Author by datruthfarmer (November 23, 2011 2:55 am ET)
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            In the United States of America, we have a couple of things called the U. S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Maybe you have heard of them. From these documents, we get our laws like this one:


            DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW


            Remember, the Police have to obey the laws too.
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          • Author by mari2jj (November 23, 2011 4:06 pm ET)
               
            But sadly, you just ignore the excessive force argument. It was not necessary. The right to protest is a firm guarantee of our constitution. If they were mucking the area, ask them to leave and if they do not, quit the manhandling. Actually none of these people were Al Capones but who could get that fact from the cop's behavior. But I say organize a boycott of San Francisco in the name of those man handled, brutalized protestors.
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          • Author by mari2jj (November 23, 2011 4:16 pm ET)
               
            Nice bait and switch. But you introduces something that is not the issue. The issue we are discussing was that the police did or did not use excessive force. Court cases on this matter are VERY clear. And, no matter the opinions of those harassed, they still deserved all the protections of our great constitution. But I am willing to just watch these two excessive force cops pay the fine to all those students they assaulted.
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      • Author by mari2jj (November 23, 2011 4:20 pm ET)
           
        Actually, that remains to be seen in court. And I have no intention of second guessing a San Francisco jury. However, the area does seem a tad on the liberal side. But in the end, this is not a liberal vs conservative question. It has to do with constitutional guarantees to every citizen of our country
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (November 21, 2011 10:32 pm ET)
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      Calling pepper spray a food product is like saying Bill O'Reilly's Lincoln book is history.
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (November 21, 2011 10:38 pm ET)
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        As someone who has been tear gassed and pepper sprayed more than once, I can tell you there's nothing "foodlike" about it. It's used in military training so that uniformed service members will develop an appreciation for the effectiveness of their protective masks and other protective clothing and equipment.

        Tools like O'Reilly may claim to have been in combat, but if they really had been, they'd know better than to pooh-pooh the effects of such chemical agents.
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        • Author by achrispage6992 (November 22, 2011 12:43 pm ET)
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          Hey now, you don't know anything unless you've been down where O'Reilly has been.....you know, staring death in the face under the extreme stress of close quarters combat. He's the man. O'Reilly for President!!!!
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      • Author by Conchobhar (November 21, 2011 10:44 pm ET)
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        Well, to be fair, you can make cyanide out of apricot pits.
        Accurately calling it a food product doesn't change the fact that pepper spray can cause lasting injuries and, in some cases, death. There are some peppers that are so strong they can't be prepared bare-handed.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 1:36 am ET)
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          Shark is a food product. Let's get a nice tank full of them for Annie to swim in. On second thought, she's probably be safe, they like meat. OK, they could just eat the head.

          Maybe just a scoop of wasabi in an ice cream cone ?
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 1:52 am ET)
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          Megyn, I mean. Jeebus, this was so bone-headed I was thinking it was Ann Coulter who said it.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (November 22, 2011 2:10 am ET)
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            Thanks for correcting. Now I can sleep. Good night, Chet.
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          • Author by Fallacyhunter (November 22, 2011 8:02 am ET)
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            I'm with you, Andy. This is one of the dumbest things I've heard in many a moon. It reminds me of the "CO2 isn't harmful because we exhale it from our bodies (or something)" argument. After enjoying a dash of the police-issued condiment, maybe Megan can put the exhaust pipe in her mouth for dessert...
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            • Author by aj.physics (November 22, 2011 10:58 am ET)
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              Well according to Rand Paul breathing in the fumes from the exhaust pipe could help her prevent asthma...
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              • Author by riverdog (November 22, 2011 12:52 pm ET)
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                best way to test pepper spray is for hannity to go through it right after he get waterboarded. i mean he said he would get waterboarded. i take him at his word.
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        • Author by Egbert Souse (November 22, 2011 9:20 am ET)
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          Ricin is a "food product". It's made from the castor bean. Definitely okay to use on protesters then. Definitely.

          Megyn is another example of why lawyers aren't pharmacists.
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        • Author by vgranucci2016 (November 22, 2011 1:59 pm ET)
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          I wonder how Ms. Kelly would react if she were sprayed in the eyes with "essence of jalapeno"?
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          • Author by bintx (November 22, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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            Oh, this stuff is more potent and concentrated than the "essence of habanero." It's liquid fire.
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            • Author by vgranucci2016 (November 22, 2011 4:14 pm ET)
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              Just the thought of essence of jalapeno is enough to start my eyes watering. I don't even want to think of any thing stronger. Jalapeno should be enough to get the point across.
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      • Author by MsYellowDog (November 21, 2011 11:24 pm ET)
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        Pepper spray is a food product in the same Rethuglican way that pizza is a vegetable.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (November 22, 2011 12:17 am ET)
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        Calling pepper spray a food product is like saying Bill O'Reilly's Lincoln book is history.


        We're using republican logic here: ketchup packets and frozen pizza are vegetables, threats of violence are "2nd amendment options", men who sexually harass women are the victims, and now pepper spray is a food product.

        Also, it's a shame to see Megyn Kelly slide back to complete corporate lying tool mode. She might have got a talk from the Roger about straying from the script.

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        • Author by MiniTru (November 22, 2011 9:38 am ET)
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          ketchup packages and frozen pizza are vegetables
          Because they contain tomatoes, no doubt. But tomatoes are fruits, not vegetables.
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          • Author by chazmanr (November 22, 2011 12:44 pm ET)
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            We went through this in the 80s when St. Ron the Ridiculous claimed that ketchup packets could count as a serving of vegetables in school lunch programs.
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    • Author by danielsangeo (November 21, 2011 10:42 pm ET)
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      You know, ricin is made from the castor bean plant which is used in the food industry and for medicinal use, Megyn. So, I'm free to use attack people with ricin, right?
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      • Author by mary59 (November 21, 2011 11:04 pm ET)
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        She obviously was being snarky and trying to show how little she cares about the students and their welfare. They should all be good little robotic dupes like her, and be happy with their unaffordable tuition and poor job prospects.

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        • Author by Bongo Fury (November 21, 2011 11:15 pm ET)
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          Every once in a while I make green chile. After greasing the chiles and baking them, there is nothing like wiping the corner of an eye while pealing them.It's an automatic reaction and I really don't plan for it. This Kelly person probably looks forward to a hot Vicks high colonic.
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          • Author by kabniel (November 21, 2011 11:33 pm ET)
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            Yeah I would like to see Megyn chew up two or three ghost chilis, then before she ran screaming in the general direction of a hospital she could talk to me, if she could talk, about food products
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          • Author by Chameo (November 21, 2011 11:34 pm ET)
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            Been there, done that -- and worse. Made chili-strawberry jam with fresh jalapenos once and forgot to wash my hands BEFORE using the bathroom. It was hours before the burning stopped -- and the only thing that kept me from calling the doctor was the thought of having to explain just how I happened to get pepper burns there... and that was just the little bit of residue left on my hands, not military grade pepper spray.

            Food product, my butt.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 1:39 am ET)
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              I learned the hard way, years ago...my girlfriend came over when I was making a pot of chili, I'd been cutting up some jalapenos and serranos. We were young, and things got simmering as the chili was. My roaming hands almost got me a black eye.
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            • Author by bintx (November 22, 2011 3:14 pm ET)
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              I've burned blisters on my hands making cheese-stuffed jalapeno appetizers. This stuff is much, much hotter.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (November 21, 2011 11:52 pm ET)
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            Last time I chopped up some jalpeno's my hands burned for the next 12 hours.

            I can see using Jalopena bits to assult someone being a serious matter. Assault with bad suchi, unless its that blowfish, not so much.

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            • Author by kabniel (November 22, 2011 12:04 am ET)
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              jalapenos? Ha. They rate between 5,000 and 8,000 on the Scoville scale the ghost chili or bhat Jolokia rates between 900,000 and one million on the Scoville scale. I want to see Megyn chew on a few of them for a while
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (November 22, 2011 12:27 am ET)
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                Maybe she get get Sean Hannity to do an on air event to prove how harmless the pepper spray is...He's manly and wouldn't chicken out from physical pain that he's dismissed when used improperly before, right? Like waterboar-....err...

                nevermind.
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (November 22, 2011 12:45 am ET)
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                Probably hotter than the small ball shaped vegetable included with a roadside meat on a skewer place in Thialand then. One of my shipmates ate one and couldn't talk for an hour.

                I'm not into so hot that you taste nothing but hot. But without 4 to 5 jalapenos my homemade chili comes out pretty bland.
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                • Author by Bongo Fury (November 22, 2011 12:53 am ET)
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                  A neighbor of mine asked me to sample a tiny cayenne pepper out of his garden. One nibble and two cold beers later I was almost semi-normal. Pepper spray is cool for those that lie for a living.
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                • Author by kabniel (November 22, 2011 1:11 am ET)
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                  Yeah that would probably be the Thai devil or pequin about 100,000 on the SS. I like the habenaro about 350,000 to 500,000. My stomach cannot take to much peppers anymore but it is something besides the hotness. So I can put say two Habeneros into a pot of jumbalaya and its good and spicy but without enough pepper meat to tear up my stomach.
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          • Author by chazmanr (November 22, 2011 12:49 pm ET)
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            This is why you wear latex exam gloves when preparing very hot peppers. I use habanero peppers in my chili. I don't care how thoroughly you wash your hands after handling them, you will burn your eyes if you touch them for many hours after handlin.
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    • Author by phlcstgan (November 21, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
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      Like a falafel?
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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya (November 21, 2011 10:47 pm ET)
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      The Los Angeles Times has reported at least 61 deaths associated with police use of pepper spray since 1990 in the USA.
      ...
      Pepper spray is banned for use in war by Article I.5 of the Chemical Weapons Convention which bans the use of all riot control agents in warfare whether lethal or less-than-lethal.

      ~
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      • Author by highliter (November 22, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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        Wikipedia really? Pepper spray is not covered under the chemical weapons convention. Here is a real link listing the chemicals it applies to.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (November 22, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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          Haven't read too much of what you linked to, but strangely, Article II mentions...

          7. "Riot Control Agent" means:
          Any chemical not listed in a Schedule, which can produce rapidly in humans sensory irritation or disabling physical effects which disappear within a short time following termination of exposure.
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          • Author by kabniel (November 22, 2011 11:38 pm ET)
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            HiLiar


            Whiffs again. Do you think he will EVER know what he is talking about?
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          • Author by highliter (November 23, 2011 10:15 am ET)
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            Our military still uses pepper spray and tear gas. So obviously they don’t apply.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (November 23, 2011 11:21 am ET)
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              idiot-
              Pepper spray is not covered under the chemical weapons convention.

              me-
              7. "Riot Control Agent" means:
              Any chemical not listed in a Schedule, which can produce rapidly in humans sensory irritation or disabling physical effects which disappear within a short time following termination of exposure.

              idiot-
              Our military still uses pepper spray and tear gas. So obviously they don't apply


              What would a wingnut do if the goal posts weren't moveable?
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (November 21, 2011 10:49 pm ET)
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      Maybe Megan Kelly need to do like that man on that cable show who eats strange foods all over the world Megan Kelly should open her mouth spray some in it and tell people if it taste good or not
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    • Author by goodfight (November 21, 2011 10:52 pm ET)
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      You know, Megyn, if a frozen side of beef falls from a fourth floor window and smacks you on the head, you would be lucky to walk away with just a concussion. My sister is allergic to nuts, and could very well die if she eats one. Beef and nuts are food products, are they not? Pepper spray, on the other hand, is about 16 million on the spiciness scale, and contains more capcacin (sp?) than the hottest peppers (somewhere over a million). But by all means, Megyn, have yourself a chili cook-off in the studio, and spice it up with a bit of pepper spray. I might just tune in to watch that.
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    • Author by jbrantow (November 21, 2011 11:01 pm ET)
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      A food? So is this witch willing to pepperspray her newborn child with this "Food"?
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      • Author by phlcstgan (November 21, 2011 11:06 pm ET)
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        Fox actually makes you do that in the job interview. How else will they know you're committed?
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      • Author by MsYellowDog (November 21, 2011 11:27 pm ET)
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        Actually,she should probably wait to spray her child until it is closer to a year old and ingesting "solid food." It should be able to handle a Rethuglican vegetable by then.
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    • Author by raddave43 (November 21, 2011 11:05 pm ET)
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      Ricin comes from a bean, so it's also essentially a food product.
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    • Author by heehee..santorum (November 21, 2011 11:13 pm ET)
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      New York Waiters General Alert: OC spray is reasonable substitute for "fresh ground pepper". She is a Mom, cool....
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    • Author by MickD (November 21, 2011 11:18 pm ET)
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      You'd think, YOU WOULD THINK, that Ms. Kelly would have at least one brain cell that says "stay off this topic no matter what Ailes tells me." But she looked at her $500 haircut and soldiered forward. Bad decision.
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    • Author by pete x tp (November 21, 2011 11:33 pm ET)
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      Leaving aside, for the moment, that they weren't doing anything to provoke any use of force whatsoever; what if the people being sprayed are asthmatic and/or are allergic to said "food product"?

      There's no such thing as an entirely safe chemical weapon and there's no such thing as a non-lethal projectile weapon. That's why the makers of rubber bullets, bean bags, and other riot control projectiles are very clear when they label them "less lethal". Unlike the freaks at FAUX"News", the makers of projectile weapons are subject to lawsuits so they cover their rears. Any time one uses a chemical agent, a projectile weapon, or even a baton (especially if one uses the tip of a baton like so many videos have shown police doing) there is a chance of serious injury or death.
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      • Author by aj.physics (November 22, 2011 11:06 am ET)
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        I keep wondering if the students were just sitting there blocking the path, and the police wanted to get through, why couldn't they have just stepped over the students? Why spray them when really you could still get around them? Wouldn't that have made a better show for the police, that the students protest was really ineffective?
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        • Author by irishlass622 (November 22, 2011 4:25 pm ET)
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          Actually, if you look at the video footage, you'll see one of the police officers that sprayed the students step over them to get to their faces. He's the one who held the spray can up in the air like a salute to the crowd watching before he started spraying!
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          • Author by aj.physics (November 22, 2011 5:18 pm ET)
               
            Exactly, so why didn't he just keep on walking to the tents which was the reason why they were there. Why did they feel the need to spray the students. I guess we'll never really know.
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            • Author by Conchobhar (November 22, 2011 8:40 pm ET)
                 
              Because he's a thug. "Proper police procedures" have become more and more brutal over the last three decades. A great deal of it, I think is down to the "war on drugs," which is as big a waste of time and resources as the "Star Wars" program. It's also an unconscionable waste of human potential.
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    • Author by pete x tp (November 21, 2011 11:36 pm ET)
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      Has anyone heard anything from the "Oath Keepers"? I recall them being all over the teabagger rallies proclaiming that they would never follow an order to use force against American citizens. And yet? I haven't seen any of them standing between the peaceful OWS protestors and the big, bad, government. Did their oath only apply to teabaggers or are they a bunch of cowardly worms who talk tough until there's a need to put their own rears on the line to stop an injustice?
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (November 21, 2011 11:38 pm ET)
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      Someone wanna use pepper spray on this bimbo and say it's the same as a pie in the face? (which Ann Coulter ran away from screaming like the whiny tramp that she is)
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 1:45 am ET)
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        It's the same people who spent the past couple weeks whining about the unbearable smell of people camping out that are suddenly not so sensitive. One of the wingnuts here was even claiming that he'd been sprayed many times during training ( guess he was crapping on the carpet) and at one point he could laugh it off.

        They go from unflappable tough guy to princess-and-the-pea in nothing flat.
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        • Author by worrierking (November 22, 2011 7:59 am ET)
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          I was gassed is basic training. There were a group of about 10 guys. We knew what was going to happen to us. We were instructed to be calm, put on our gas masks, and stand still.

          All ten of us went screaming into the woods, having dropped our gas masks first.

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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 12:17 pm ET)
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            Geez, King, haven't you learned anything from our right wing friends here? This is the internets, where you don't have to admit to embarrassing un-manly behavior like that.

            My basic training was at Ft. Narnia, on the biggest Naval port in Nevada. My entire body was rubbed raw with a pumice stone, then crop dusters flew over me, dropping loads of mustard gas on me.

            I looked my commanding officer dead in the eye, fixed him with my steely gaze, and asked if I could have a Coney dog with that.

            Then I laughed, a deep, bellowing laugh that shook the surrounding rain forest.

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            • Author by chazmanr (November 22, 2011 12:54 pm ET)
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              Ft. Narnia, on the biggest Naval port in Nevada


              Gee Andy, are you spelling the fort correctly? I can't find Ft. Narnia on any map of Nevada.

              (Right about now Boxy is pulling out a US atlas)
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
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                Really? It's the busiest deep-water port on Nevada's Pacific coast. Look right below Point Mordor, just west of Mount Pilot. Maybe they closed it down.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (November 22, 2011 1:40 pm ET)
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              My basic training was at Ft. Narnia, on the biggest Naval port in Nevada.

              I was going to join the sevice as well but; decided at the last minute that I would rather take the harder course of working my way up the ladder to CEO of one of the largest corporations in the world.

              Getting shot at in the service is one thing, after getting doused with mustard gas while crossing the burning desert on the way to the cross ocean swim but; those board room fights are killer. (It's hardly worth the billions you earn)
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (November 22, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
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          You have to wonder about this whole "I was sprayed in training".

          There are a bunch of video out showing cops going through tazer training, where they have to get tazed to know what it is like.

          They put the tazer on the lowest setting possible and these big manyly men go down like a sack of potatoes.

          Somehow that is supposed to give them the same feel as what a suspect is going to feel while being tazed multiple times by the full 50,000 volts of the tazer.

          I don't suppose they would ever use a diluted version of pepper spray to shoot these manly men in the face with, would they?
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    • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (November 21, 2011 11:45 pm ET)
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      I say we spray pepper spray in Megyn's face so she can tell us first hand how that food product feels. I live a half hour from Davis and it was rather disturbing to see how some of the Fox News crowd responded to this incident. "Snot nose punks had it coming" and "good for the cops" , etc. Fox News, dumbing down America with one dumb blonde after another.
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    • Author by MiG (November 21, 2011 11:50 pm ET)
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      That is exactly the Right Wing thinking that leads them to advocate for water boarding - "it's just water, you know? And as long as it is clean..."
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (November 22, 2011 1:51 am ET)
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        It's this idiotic thinking, so stupid it's hard to believe even the Foxbots can't see through it. Like " we exhale CO2, it's natural, how can there be too much of it?"

        Unless somebody's willing to consume large amounts of anything the human body secretes, they really haven't thought that argument through.
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    • Author by PBVV (November 22, 2011 12:29 am ET)
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      "It's like a derivative of actual pepper, it is a food product essentially..."

      Megyn Kelly of The Bill O'Reilly "Kelly File" segment, Tell us,
      How does it really feel to be Roger Ailes and BillO's B!tch this way?
      Does that Rupert Murdoch signed paycheck really have enough zeroes on it to compensate for the conscience you either do not have or the one that you must silence?
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    • Author by reriding (November 22, 2011 12:55 am ET)
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      Here's a recent blog about this "food product."
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    • Author by draftedin68 (November 22, 2011 1:04 am ET)
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      Save this clip folks...

      ...you can play it the next time you need to induce vomiting.

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    • Author by somnambulist (November 22, 2011 1:20 am ET)
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      Now we can book a double-header!

      Hanitty gets that long-promised waterboarding, after the opening act of Kelly being splashed in the face with this 'food product'. Sold!
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    • Author by calijohn (November 22, 2011 1:42 am ET)
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      try a spritz on your tuna.
      let us know what you think.
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    • Author by sandman67 (November 22, 2011 5:06 am ET)
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      Demand the true test.... Chrstopher Hitchens underwent water boarding as a test to establish whether it was torture.

      I demand the right to pepper spray these two tw*ts (thats an A not an I) before they get to talk any more about what tastes good on your spaghetti and what is a chemical weapon.

      I offer, free of charge, to also apply a steel toecapped Dr Marten to the piano smiles of these two so they also know what is a boot and what is a sandal.
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    • Author by danielsangeo (November 22, 2011 7:01 am ET)
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      What is it with Megyn Kelly? She says something semi-sane and intelligent, then she goes right back into stupidville for the majority of the time...
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    • Author by eddie-george (November 22, 2011 7:27 am ET)
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      Bullets are just lead, a naturally occuring element if you must know. So no complaining if you get shot, mkay?
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    • Author by worrierking (November 22, 2011 7:56 am ET)
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      So is ricin Megyn. Why not eat a little to show us how harmless it is.
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    • Author by barscotch9441 (November 22, 2011 8:09 am ET)
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      Ah, another cavorting romp through Fox "Logic" 101. Here's my contribution, professor:

      Tomatoes are related to the nightshade. So one could mix up some "special" punch with those little bright red berries out in the backyard and it would be perfectly safe to drink, right?
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    • Author by mikelartist (November 22, 2011 8:19 am ET)
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      A food product, so you don't mind with someone blasts you in the face with it during your thanksgiving meal Ms Kelly?
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      • Author by chuckie (November 22, 2011 10:23 am ET)
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        Don't forget that rhubarb leaves are part of a food product, I DO NOT think that even this dim bulb should eat them. It's amazing how stupid their audience is or they assume them to be.
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    • Author by raynfala (November 22, 2011 11:01 am ET)
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      So is mustard gas a condiment?
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    • Author by bintx (November 22, 2011 11:03 am ET)
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      Pepper spray is capsaicin, the chemical contained in chili peppers which makes them hot. The more capsaicin contained in the chili, the hotter it is. It is an irritant. It has been linked to deaths in some individuals, depending upon the strength of the pepper spray and the health of the person sprayed. It could be deadly, for instance, for a person who suffers from asthma since it causes inflammation of the lungs and difficulty breathing. I've actually gotten blisters on my hands after stuffing jalapenos with cheese for appetizers.

      Yeah, it's a "food product" essentially. (/snark)
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    • Author by shaggles (November 22, 2011 11:24 am ET)
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      So eat it. I dare you. You open your mouth and squirt some pepper spray in there while Sean Hannity has himself waterboarded for charity.
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    • Author by scooter51 (November 22, 2011 12:09 pm ET)
         
      Megyn, you stupid cow. Why don't yo ukeep some in your pantry then? How different her reaction would be if she was sprayed in the eyes at point blank range.

      God in heaven, I have no holiday spirit this year towards these people. No forgiveness, only bitter, bitter scorn. May their sacks be filled with lumps of coal that are blacker than their hearts.
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    • Author by armendale (November 22, 2011 12:11 pm ET)
         
      Megan:
      "Matter of fact, this Christmas I'm getting cans of Pepper Spray as stocking stuffers for my kids. And under the tree wrapped in razor wire my daughter will find the Barbie Water-boards Ken Playset, and 'Abu Grahib Funniest Moments' on Blue Ray Disc."




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    • Author by newzhound (November 22, 2011 12:13 pm ET)
         
      I remember Homer Simpson using pepper spray on his food.

      This is one more example of "reporters" confusing fantasy with reality.
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    • Author by OutragedToo (November 22, 2011 12:19 pm ET)
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      Well, then, I'd gladly spray her in the face and ask "Would you like fries with that?".
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    • Author by Treulos (November 22, 2011 12:33 pm ET)
         
      There's no difference between getting maced and being hit in the face with a pie. They're both foods, after all!
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    • Author by barscotch9441 (November 22, 2011 12:35 pm ET)
         
      So Officer Pike wasn't really hurting them, he just thought he was, what? Serving them lunch? Eat $h!t, Megyn Kelly. Go on, it's a food product.
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    • Author by chazmanr (November 22, 2011 12:40 pm ET)
         
      Does this indicate that Megan is volunteering to have her face sprayed with the same "food"?

      We're still waiting for Insannity to go through the waterboarding that he said was no big deal.
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      • Author by OHBROTHER58 (November 22, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
           
        That would be great. I would love to spray her with the same pepper spray used on the protesters, and for the same length of time, and then, while she's screaming bloody murder, I would simply shrug and say, "What are you screaming about? It's just a food product. Sheeeesh!"
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    • Author by draftedin68 (November 22, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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      Bullschitt is also food (slightly used), so I guess Megyn and BO are trying to get us to buy a couple of their famous Bullschitt Burritos seasoned with a splash of pepper spray.

      No thanks.

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    • Author by 4teepee (November 22, 2011 12:57 pm ET)
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      The problem with the protesters is they hate our freedom. ;-)
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    • Author by moore.greg775767 (November 22, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
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      THIS IS FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT JOURNAL

      Studies of the effects of capsaicin on human physiology, anecdotal experience with field use of pepper spray, and controlled exposure of CO'S in training have shown adverse effects on the lungs,larynx,middle airway protective reflexes, and skin. Behavioral and mental health effects also may occur if pepper spray is used abusively.
      Maybe kelly should attend a one day course in CW and go through the gas house before she opens her yap.

      Msgt Moore/18D
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      • Author by jdkinpa (November 22, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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        Been there done that,

        SFC /Ret

        yep some ojt for Megyn and Bill would give them a whole new perspective, I doubt any DI would subject the lowest boot to that much abuse.
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      • Author by highliter (November 22, 2011 1:31 pm ET)
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        You need to look up the definition of anecdotal.
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        • Author by bintx (November 22, 2011 3:17 pm ET)
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          Actually, I read a scientific paper on the subject, highliter. In susceptible individuals, this stuff can cause respiratory failure and cornea damage.
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        • Author by n'est-ce pas (November 22, 2011 5:25 pm ET)
             
          Is it just that you can't read? You lock in on one of several components of a meta-study to construct your strawman as though you've made some kind of point. Seriously, reading is fundamental, especially in an Internet environment. Friggin' moron.
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        • Author by kabniel (November 22, 2011 11:46 pm ET)
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          HiLIAR

          GOD but you are stupid. Anecdotal cannot be relied upon to show a pattern but as a way to say something DID happen to specific individuals it is fair evidence. Why dont you try for ONCE in your pathetic life having a dim clue what you are talking about? As a MEDICAL term it means based on case studies and not clinical trials. Different from the classic definition
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    • Author by armendale (November 22, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
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      What's next? Stacking naked student Occupiers in human Pyramids, or making them stand hooded on crates with their genitals attached to a car battery?

      Oh wait, that's the new FOX/GOP Christmas torture/porn video.

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    • Author by jdkinpa (November 22, 2011 1:02 pm ET)
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      Well Megyn since it's so harmless maybe you will feed it to that new born of yours.
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    • Author by NMFreelancer (November 22, 2011 2:50 pm ET)
         
      Well, Megyn, how about taking a little spritzer of the pepper spray and then tell me, if you can, how similar it is to a breath spray.
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    • Author by dkylep (November 22, 2011 3:18 pm ET)
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      Is that so, you ridiculous floozy? I wonder if you'd be so nonchalant about the whole thing if you were the one that was pepper sprayed? Ah, but that's right, if something affects you (ala maternity leave) then you're all for it. If something affects others then you just whore out your opinion to whomever is paying the most money and telling you what to say.

      Actually, that's a good word for you Kelly: you're not just a floozy, you're an intellectual whore. You sell yourself and your opinions to the highest bidder.
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      • Author by papajohn (November 22, 2011 3:34 pm ET)
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        Much of the network and cable news media turned down or in some cases muted the audio of the clip they showed of the pepper spraying, no doubt to minimize the effect of that awful tactic.

        Here is what it actually sounded like and how they should have played it in the so-called "Liberal Mainstream Media"

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJmmnMkuEM

        John
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        • Author by dkylep (November 22, 2011 5:41 pm ET)
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          That's beyond sick. More and more I'm wanting to see things like what happened at that soccer game in South America (I can't remember the exact match) where some cops ran out and proceeded to beat on a streaker who had run out onto the field. Like five cops were pounding on the guy and then the fans got involved and went batsh!t crazy, beating on the cops and making them run away into the underground lockerroom areas.

          More and more I'm starting to realize that police seem more and more corrupt as time passes. So many violations of basic human dignity and respect from these trained gestapo thugs all over the world. Which is a shame since there are no doubt multitudes of excellent police that truly try to protect the public and keep law and order. Sadly, there seem to be many many thugs in police forces, who simply seem to get off on beating people up or forcing them to obey, despite the fact that they're violating civil and human rights in doing so.

          When the sh!t hits the fan the cops lose though, that's the one nice thing about it. When people, en masse, have finally had enough of police brutality and rise up as a group against these violent and fascist thugs, then the thugs beat a quick retreat with their tails between their cowardly little legs.
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    • Author by hoopvillain (November 22, 2011 5:00 pm ET)
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      Pepper spray is a lachrymatory agent, a chemical compound that irritates the eyes to cause tears, pain, and even temporary blindness. It is made from Capsaicin which is the active component of chili peppers. It is an irritant for mammals, including humans, and produces a sensation of burning. If you eat these type of plants, then yes it is "a food product, essentially". Since I dont eat this type of plant, then it isnt a food product in my houselhold. I cant wait to see what she has on the menu for dinner tonight in the Kelly houselhold.
      Megyn "The ***" Kelly; "...from a legal standpoint, I dont know that the cops did anything wrong..."
      Do all faux nooze employees have to deny their humanity to be employed at faux? Do they have to be without compasion to work at faux? Is it a job requirement to be display a complete lack of human dignity to be a faux nooze employee? I was sickened by the video of the police spraying these students.
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      • Author by BISHAMON (November 24, 2011 2:45 am ET)
           
        From Wikipedia: "The European Parliament Scientific and Technological Options Assessment (STOA) published in 1998 “An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control”[6] with extensive information on pepper spray and tear gas. They write:


        'The effects of pepper spray are far more severe, including temporary blindness which lasts from 15–30 minutes, a burning sensation of the skin which lasts from 45 to 60 minutes, upper body spasms which force a person to bend forward and uncontrollable coughing making it difficult to breathe or speak for between 3 to 15 minutes.'


        "For those with asthma, taking other drugs, or subject to restraining techniques which restrict the breathing passages, there is a risk of death."
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    • Author by cuba (November 22, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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      About Pepper Spray
      http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/

      "One hundred years ago, an American pharmacist named Wilbur Scoville developed a scale to measure the intensity of a pepper’s burn. The scale – as you can see on the widely used chart to the left – puts sweet bell peppers at the zero mark and the blistering habanero at up to 350,000 Scoville Units.

      "As the chart makes clear, commercial grade pepper spray leaves even the most painful of natural peppers far behind. It’s listed at between 2 million and 5.3 million Scoville units. The lower number refers to the kind of pepper spray that you and I might be able to purchase for self-protective uses. And the higher number? It’s the kind of spray that police use, the super-high dose given in the orange-colored spray used at UC-Davis.

      "Depending on brand, an OC spray may contain water, alcohols, or organic solvents as liquid carriers; and nitrogen, carbon dioxide, or halogenated hydrocarbons (such as Freon, tetrachloroethylene, and methylene chloride) as propellants to discharge the canister contents.(3) Inhalation of high doses of some of these chemicals can produce adverse cardiac, respiratory, and neurologic effects, including arrhythmias and sudden death."

      There's more. Excellent article.
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    • Author by crazymonkeylady (November 22, 2011 9:19 pm ET)
         
      Maybe Megyn thought it was "Dr.Pepper" spray! After all, Dr. Pepper is a delicious food-like substance! I would happily spray her with Military Grade pepper spray and let her enjoy it!
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      • Author by datruthfarmer (November 23, 2011 2:26 am ET)
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        That pepper spray is some good stuff.

        Be sure to rate it.

        Product warning:

        "I casually used this product to try to disperse a small band of non-violent campers who had locked their arms together. Although initially it seemed to be effective, it took two applications! The worst part is that the next day they multiplied exponentially! Now what?"
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    • Author by pam95650 (November 23, 2011 1:12 am ET)
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      Hey Megan, why don't we pepper spray you?
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    • Author by goshzilla (November 23, 2011 1:59 pm ET)
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      A food product? Oh how reassuring, would you like to try some salt in the eyes m'am? It's just a food product too.

      Next week someone might be tazed for peacefully protesting,

      Kelly's likely response "Tazers just give out electricity, we have that stuff going through our nervous system all the time."
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    • Author by Ugmo (November 24, 2011 7:57 pm ET)
         
      I also have a food product for Megyn that's not listed on the menu...
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