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Kilmeade Decides: Obama Admin's Decision On Keystone XL Pipeline Is An "Outrage"

January 19, 2012 9:11 am ET

From the January 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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Previously:

The Right-Wing Media's Flawed Keystone XL Rejection Attacks

Kilmeade Advances Myth That Keystone XL Pipeline Would "Create More Than 250,000 Permanent Jobs"

Kilmeade On Keystone XL: "[Canada] Want[s] The Business. We Want The Jobs. [It] Seem[s] To Be A Win-Win"

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    • Author by progressivevoicedaily (January 19, 2012 9:18 am ET)
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      Your tbaggers got what you deserved. This is the GOP's fault, not President Obama's. They wanted this decision fast-tracked, and while the State Dept. had warned them that not enough time was allotted by the House GOP to get the studies that were currently under way wrapped up. In effect, THE GOP KILLED THE PROJECT...much to the Progressive Worlds delight:)
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (January 19, 2012 9:48 am ET)
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        As a regular critic of the President, I'm delighted that Obama still cares enough about his base to make the right decision on the pipeline. And as someone with a memory of how things have gone down in the past, I'm going to to save popping the champagne until after the election is out of the way. I have a feeling that the threat of this pipeline is going to be hanging over us for a long, long time, regardless of who wins.
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        • Author by David2012 (January 19, 2012 9:53 am ET)
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          I will be amazed if Obama doesn't eventually approve this pipeline proposal.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (January 19, 2012 10:20 am ET)
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            Me too. I'm afraid it could end up being the Extending the Bush Tax Cuts of December, 2012.
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        • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 10:42 am ET)
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          The prez didn't nix the pipeline due to ideology, however. You could claim that he had environmental concerns, but the fact is that several departments didn't have time to complete the studies necessary to approve it, especially after an alternative route was requested. So I applaud him for doing his job, but I can't concede to the idea that the prez cares any more about his base than he did when he extended the Bush tax cuts.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (January 19, 2012 11:16 am ET)
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            Well, I think he's going to re-elected, so we'll see if the pipeline is approved before January, 2017. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it is.
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    • Author by David2012 (January 19, 2012 9:23 am ET)
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      Now let's see.

      Which one of these panelists is the independent, again?
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      • Author by DAWUSS (January 19, 2012 9:28 am ET)
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        Party registration is independent of political philosophy.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 9:30 am ET)
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        I think it's the one wearing the shiny gold helmet.
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      • Author by iglou (January 19, 2012 9:38 am ET)
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        Ugh, I didn't want to be reminded of that god awful clip from yesterday. "We present both sides" Funny Bill-O always talks about Fox as being the counterpoint to "liberal media". You can't be balanced and a counterpoint and neither of those is what news is about. News should be about presenting facts. This one... pure editorial/opinion. Then they report the opinions. Blech, it just leaves a bad taste.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 19, 2012 1:34 pm ET)
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          iglou, I heard something interesting last night while I was driving somewhere and tuned in one of the righty am stations. I'm always listening for the subtle little twists of language used by so-called objective news reporters, and this was a bit about the pipeline on a so-called newsbreak from the wingnut talk show.

          The reporter presented both sides of the issue, but I noticed something slick. As she quoted the Republicans side, she always said " Republicans say..." or " The Republicans explained...", but when presenting Obama's side, it was " Obama insists..." each time.

          I hadn't noticed that before, but it's a pretty under-the-radar way to get the implication in. People telling the truth say or explain, defensive or dishonest people have to "insist".
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          • Author by iglou (January 19, 2012 6:47 pm ET)
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            Thank Frank Luntz for that. It's all about language and then manipulation through the language.
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      • Author by BDA (January 19, 2012 10:17 am ET)
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        Killme must be the liberal. If Doocy had read the teleprompter, it would have said "Obama rejects oil pipeline on orders from Soros, Ayers, SEIU, King Abdullah and Hugo Chavez. Then has lunch with the ghosts of Malcolm X and Chairman Mao."
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        • Author by iglou (January 19, 2012 10:37 am ET)
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          AND Zombie Teddy Rosevelt! Why does everyone always forget Zombie Teddy?

          I suspect The Daily Show is going to have a good one on the pipeline coverage.
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      • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (January 19, 2012 12:19 pm ET)
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        Petunia (Gretchen) schooled by Jerry Springer.
        ~
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 19, 2012 9:28 am ET)
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      Bolling was on Beck's internet show last week bragging that he was such a great Christian, and yet, he comes to sit on the curvy couch and he lies like a cheap rug.

      It seems to me, that when I went to my 30th High School Reunion in the summer of 2008, I paid $4.19 a gallon, I remember this because it was the highest I ever paid! Obama wasn't President yet, so gas did not get down to $1.86 in his term.

      The Keystone Pipeline will provide about 6,000 jobs but they are only temporary. The pipeline is from Canada, it will benefit Canadians who own the company and the oil shale that will be used to produce the oil, the oil is of unknown toxicity, it runs the risk of fouling a major aquifer and some of our best farmland if something should go wrong. And then, if it is built and nothing goes wrong and the oil isn't highly toxic and expense to retrieve, it won't be sold on the American market, it will be sold on the world market, just like all the other oil. Which means it could still go to China and prices at American pumps will still be higher. It does nothing for American wallets or national security. But do the idiots on the curvy couch talk about that? Nope! They're just outraged that Obama didn't cave in to Republicans and Oil special interests.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 9:36 am ET)
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        Six years ago, the Troglodytes would have been afraid to build such a tempting target for terrorists.

        As for Christians lying, the Republicans apparently have made peace with that, as long as it promotes the greater good of protecting our Christian Nation from Liberals. They flushed that Commandment down the same Memory Hole as the admonition to pray in seclusion, and that inconvenient Camel-through-the-eye-of-a-needle thing.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (January 19, 2012 10:22 am ET)
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          Yesterday, I was talking about the pipeline with my husband, he was perplexed by the Right's willingness to cede that much sovereignty over to a foreign country. "Well, it is Canada, but they're still a foreign country!" And I think both Kevin Phillips and Thomas Frank have pointed out that oil is sold on the world market, not just the American market, but my husband reminded me of that point. In the meantime, the Obama Administration is supposed to be working on some alternative energy plans that will produce more jobs, and they're permanent, too.

          If you want to talk about terrorist targets, I live near a major oil reserve station. There is a "farm" of huge oil or gas tanks right near I-95 and a major county thoroughfare. If you blew that place up, you'd cripple traffic in the D.C. area for weeks, if not months. A small team of people could invade the facility with very little difficulty, I'm sure.

          This whole Conservatives are good Christians, and Liberals are all Godless is really bothersome for me. I am not Godless, and in many cases, I live more conservatively than most of the "Conservatives" that I know. I do my best to live by my principles, sometimes I fail, but I don't go around trying to bully other people into living as I do. I do my best to respect their freedom to live as they choose!
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          • Author by dogbreath (January 19, 2012 12:41 pm ET)
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            If I were a terrorist, with of course I am not, I would hit a mall. That would paralyze this country like nothing else. The economy would just come to a halt.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (January 19, 2012 1:17 pm ET)
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              Yes, a big mall or some place like Disneyland or Sea World, some huge, internationally known amusement park. Americans hate it when you threaten their children.
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        • Author by CAL (January 19, 2012 12:49 pm ET)
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          This is harsh, but is the straight scoop. Decades ago, it dawned on the "conservatives" that seizing the "Christian mantle" was an easy means to grab power and control. Think about your day-to-day conversations. When people haul out their "Christian cards", they realize no credentials or actual effort are required, and others are generally expected to be respectful of their "Christian" standing. "Conservatives" use this unearned standing as a means to impose their warped agenda. Christianity and flag-waving patriotism are simply things they hide behind, so people won't notice or question their awful behavior. "If I claim to be a "Christian", I cannot be questioned or critisized." That is the scam, and today's "conservatives" wallow in it.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 19, 2012 9:42 am ET)
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      Might as well get that daily Obama bashing out of the way...
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    • Author by jjamele2880 (January 19, 2012 9:45 am ET)
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      Kilmeade just said on his radio show that "there's been an explosion in natural gas in this country lately..."

      Great choice of words there, Brian.

      And then he moved on to a subject he knows much more about- "who was more attractive, Elly May Clampett or Herman Munster's wife?" Seriously. This guy gets paid for this.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 9:54 am ET)
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        Sans makeup, I'd vote for Evonne DeCarlo.
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        • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 10:47 am ET)
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          McClintock-ish?
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          • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 11:57 am ET)
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            There you go. I also remember seeing her in an old B&W Gunsmoke episode, and I knew she looked familiar, but couldn't place her at first. Then, I heard her speak, and said, "Aha! Lily Munster".
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      • Author by David2012 (January 19, 2012 9:57 am ET)
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        Do we know where Beetlebrow stands on Veronica versus Betty?
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 9:59 am ET)
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        As for him getting paid big bucks for not much work, it's always been my opinion that he's related to somebody in FOX management. Maybe he's Roger Ailes' love child.

        To think, here's a guy with no apparent talent, dumb as a sack of hammers, not even good looking, and he's been vaulted into the top 1% of income earners hosting a TV show and a radio show? I don't get it. Of course, the same goes for Sean Hannity, and several other Right Wing Professional Liars.

        FOX/Hate Radio look suspiciously like an affirmative action program for no-talent trust fund babies.
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    • Author by Jimijams (January 19, 2012 9:51 am ET)
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      Kilmeade is always outraged, but he doesn't know what or even why he is.
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      • Author by David2012 (January 19, 2012 9:56 am ET)
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        He also seems blissfully unaware of how comical his faux outrage is, how ridiculous it makes him.
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      • Author by Imbecile (January 19, 2012 9:59 am ET)
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        And while he's still not quite sure what outrage is, he knows it's not a happy feeling and he knows it has something to do with liberals and Democrats.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 10:05 am ET)
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          I think he's typical of the Republican Base. They know they've been told to hate Obama, but they don't really know why.

          A Conservative blogger called the Thom Hartmann show yesterday, and he repeated the usual talking points, that Obama was encouraging people to get on Food Stamps, and creating an "Entitlement Society", etc.

          Thom challenged him to give an example of something Obama had done toward this end, and the guy was stumped. His response boiled down to "Well, he just is... anybody can see it!"

          And these people vote.
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          • Author by Imbecile (January 19, 2012 10:35 am ET)
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            Sounds like the equivalent of the people we get here who, when asked for specific instances of the President's socialism/communism/what-have-you, can be counted on without fail to not respond at all, or to respond with the usual non sequiturs.
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            • Author by magnolialover (January 19, 2012 1:12 pm ET)
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              Not to mention our repeated attempts for them to give us examples of the so called liberal media bias which they say exists EVERYWHERE, but I haven't seen too many actual real examples.

              They usually just snort, and say something about MSNBC, which I don't watch or read.
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          • Author by galmud (January 19, 2012 11:30 am ET)
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            "Well, he just is... anybody can see it!"

            To see "it" you just have to close your eyes and listen to your gut
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 19, 2012 1:46 pm ET)
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            I had an email forwarded to me this morning, from my usual source for wingnut propaganda. I was surprised to see the topic was media monopoly, the control of most media by those six huge corporations.

            It's a topic I only hear about, generally, from more left-leaning or "credible" sources. It linked to two decent articles about the problem with deregulation and corporate domination of the media, but I could see it was forwarded to my friend by the same guy who sends all of the Foxbot stuff. I was baffled for a minute.

            Then I scrolled down, and saw the added note- " This is how Obama got elected!", and some gibberish question about the Republican candidate, and claiming to be 'food for thought'.

            It just hurts my head. Corporations, through deregulation, conspired to elect the guy they say hates corporations and deregulation? It's like they could just link to an article about abandoned kittens, and add some little "Thanks, Obama!" at the end, and the suckers will eat it up.

            I had to stop scrolling through the comments at one of the articles, when I saw one ( in response to corporate media control ) that said simply " Thank goodness for Fox!".
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            • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 4:07 pm ET)
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              Had a buddy of mine ranting against gay marriage send me a link which in his mind proved his point about kids raised by gay parents. Turned out to be about children raised in SINGLE PARENT HOMES.

              I don't know - is it their wishful thinking that gets in the way of their comprehension?
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              • Author by mary59 (January 19, 2012 4:18 pm ET)
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                I'm a dreamer, but I usually respond to right wing emails (I only get them from one person) with the snopes debunk or something to show them that they're forwarding garbage. My dream is that they'll actually realize they've been had.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (January 19, 2012 10:09 am ET)
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      this is FOXPAC's idea of "fair and balanced" pulling out a white board

      And then they pull up a graphic that shows the country covered in pipelines and they expect the non-FOXPAC viewer to beleive that one more will cause a dramatic shift in gas prices
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 10:31 am ET)
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        They don't really understand how the Oil Market works. The Saudis can arbitrarily change oil prices at will. Right now, they need prices a bit higher to make up for the concessions they made to their people to avoid the riots happening in other Arab countries.

        Once they get that money back, they may bless us with a slightly lower price.
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    • Author by boxtop (January 19, 2012 10:46 am ET)
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      There you go people. Didn't I say that gasoline was around $1.83 a gallon when Obama took office? I paid CLOSE atention to the gas prices so I can verify that.
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      • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 10:56 am ET)
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        Take a look at this chart, and explain to me how Bush administration policies were favorable for gas prices:
        CHART

        So... Are you knowledgeable about anything?
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        • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 1:10 pm ET)
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          What - No reply? Why hast thou forsaken me, Foxbot?
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 19, 2012 1:53 pm ET)
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          Hello Neon ! Would you like to join my sunny wide-eyed optimist club ? I'm still on pins and needles waiting for box to flesh out his " Ed Schultz bashing Romney" story.

          He may be very busy researching that, so be patient waiting for his analysis and explanation of the world oil market.
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          • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 4:00 pm ET)
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            I didn't realize...

            I could be waiting in line here longer than the DMV.

            (For all those on the east coast, we wait "IN" line, not "ON" line, because it makes more sense.)
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          • Author by neon desert (January 19, 2012 4:15 pm ET)
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            BTW, Andy, would love to join your optimists club, but I just don't see it going anywhere. I belonged to "Patience NOW!" club, which after 2 months, disbanded.
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      • Author by Imbecile (January 19, 2012 10:59 am ET)
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        Here's a chart that shows monthly average gas prices since 2008.

        Yes, when President Obama took office, the national average was around $1.85 a gallon.

        So what? What does that even mean?

        I've always been a bit curious as to why people pay so much attention to the price of gasoline as an economic indicator.

        It's like you're saying that since gas was $1.85 in January 2009, that means the economy was tip-top at that time. Surely you can't be suggesting that. So that makes me wonder, what are you trying to suggest by that?

        Oh, and btw, gas prices have never been higher than they were in June and July, 2008, where the national average hovered above $4.00 a gallon. What can we surmise from that? Assuming the price of gas means anything at all other than the price of gas.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 19, 2012 1:57 pm ET)
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          The only time I've seen gas top five bucks a gallon (in Southern California) was during W's term. I had a decent gas allowance at work at the time, and I was thinking it was late '07 or '08 when I exceeded it once. ( Yeah, feel my pain, I had to spend ten dollars on gas one month!!)
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      • Author by nerzog (January 19, 2012 11:01 am ET)
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        Gas prices plunged in late 2008, due to reduced demand in a nose-diving economy. Are you going to give Numbnuts Bush credit for that?
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      • Author by pete592 (January 19, 2012 11:11 am ET)
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        Demand was down during the Bush Recession, Professor Genius. There were fewer and fewer people driving to work and more people were staying home instead of going on road trips.
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      • Author by MickD (January 19, 2012 11:49 am ET)
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        Box, I hope you're getting paid well, or love the tingle you get when people take you to school on the forum. You're so tiresome it's a nightmare.
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      • Author by dogbreath (January 19, 2012 12:50 pm ET)
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        Boxy, I work in the oil and gas industry. I can tell you that any politician who claims that he/she can assure you a certain price at the station is purely pulling your chain. The industry is enormously complex, with prices being determined that the US has absolutely no control over. Speculators on Wall Street, that crap hole that you endlessly defend, largely determine the price at the pump. If you have issues, I suggest you call them or call your representative to see if the speculative markets can be re-regulated. Increases in domestic production might help, particularly if done by smaller players who tend to sell to domestic markets, but their pull and capital is limited in an industry where both are prerequisites to development. But, then again, and as mentioned by several folks above, even that oil and gas goes out onto the open market. If you want to control prices that means, in the case of oil, nationalization. And I don't think you want to go there.
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      • Author by gmccpa (January 19, 2012 2:54 pm ET)
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        So boxtop, you believe that this pipeline will result in lower oil prices? Do you also believe in Santa Claus? The tooth fairy?

        What scenario do you envision that the oil companies will discount the price because of their affinity for the American public? Where we, as indiviuals, will pay less for oil products. Or maybe you believe that they are just patriotic. Good luck with that.

        Oil is sold on a market...for the highest price. And they (oil companies) are the direct beneficiary of higher prices. Its no coincidence that Exxon Mobil set profitablity records when oil prices skyrocketed. And if you are counting on their 'patriotism'...they paid zero US federal income taxes in the process. They claim they paid income taxes to other countries...and were entitled to credits here. Great. Good to know.

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      • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (January 19, 2012 4:17 pm ET)
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        There you go, box. You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, so please just save your kindergarten rants for the WND boards. You don't have the intellect to comprehend anything other than black and white issues, so it doesn't matter how well you pay "CLOSE atention" to anything.
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    • Author by pete592 (January 19, 2012 10:57 am ET)
         
      Not to the people who opposed it, including significant number of Nebraskans of all political stripes.
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    • Author by magnolialover (January 19, 2012 11:18 am ET)
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      They'd be outraged if Obama were sick in bed with the flu and didn't make it into the Oval until say, 10AM. What would they say?

      "Obama is a lazy lay about do nothing. He didn't even get into the office this morning until 10AM!!! Why doesn't he have a work ethic? He must have learned this from his anti colonialism father from KENYA!!"
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (January 19, 2012 12:22 pm ET)
           
        Some day Fox will break in to a real news show when they have new owners. Psst..Ted..Ted Turner
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    • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (January 19, 2012 4:22 pm ET)
         
      I'm half-surprised that Kilmeade didn't say, "This is an outrage! Angry Inflection" because he could distinguish what the script was trying to tell him, ala Ron Burgundy.
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    • Author by glenda76 (January 19, 2012 6:11 pm ET)
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      Also,
      It was the REPUBLICAN governor of Nebraska that asked that the pipeline be rerouted because the people of his state were concerned (rightfully so) about the possibility of their water and land they live on being polluted. Not only that, this oil is not going to the United States. It is going to the Gulf to be sold on the GLOBAL market. What part of that do those morons not get?
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