Fox's Ramsey: "Last Night Our President Declared War On Success"
January 25, 2012 9:01 am ET
From the January 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
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On the other end of that coin, poverty is just god's way of telling everyone you aren't going to heaven.
Yeah, according to Calvinists, even Jesus is burning in the eternal fires of hell. Of course, they won't admit that, but the logical conclusion of their beliefs dictates it.
Now, there may be aspects in the teachings of Jesus that counter their predetermined beliefs, such as taking care of the poor, and loving one's enemy as one loves oneself, and things like that, that have become synonymous with "communism" and "nazis" to those who have wedded money and religion. When something comes along like Mark 10:25 that seems to contradict what they have predetermined, they just call it liberal bias, a.k.a. naziism, and ignore it.
So, you see, that's a nazi communist camel you're trying to force down their throats.
It's not sustainable forever, nor is it really productive after an extended time, and it's not how you make $1M a year!
The key is to create intellectual property of value, not just a thing or service.
But it's also true the odds of getting $1 M are still long.
You might find a business model in which you can entice lots of people to work only on commission as independent contractors, exploit them, make a high margin off each one, and pocket $1M a year. It requires a pretty good sociopath to make work but many brokerages like stock, real estate and insurance work that way.
I have some tech friends who have netted $5M, one guy $50-80M, and the tops about $250M at peak of market. All on paper of course. I almost cashed out in the low end of that category with one of my startups, but the market blew up and the acquirer backed out. Pretty typical of business cycles.
Additionally, as you might imagine, after a few years of 100 hour weeks odds are high of a divorce, dividing that money in half for everyone of those guys I mentioned!
As Pres. Obama also said, the wealthy did not get there on their own.
What in the constitution dictates that we have to have enormous wealth disparity in America?
Do they all believe they'll all die wealthy and happy in perpetuity? Is this about power and control and wealth is the only way they think they can attain that power and control? Do they think it will last?
I can't figure them out to save my life.
If you want an intelligent reponse, do some research. The wealth has already been redistributed...only its been redistributed UP..to the wealthy. So now, they are reaping the benefit of increased wealth...and much lower taxes (or maybe the lower taxes contributed to the increase). Either way, they've benefited greatly...and now want to 'fix' the whole thing by paying less taxes...and taxing those that can least afford it.
Really, do you honestly think someone like Mitt Romney would suffer if his tax rate was a few pct points higher? 14%??? If you and I worked our butts off for a $10 or $15K bonus, its likely we would pay double that.
Per the transcript, no. Perhaps if you listed/watched/read the speech itself, rather than the Fox condensed version, you would be aware of this . . .
"So put in your earplugs,
Put on your eyeshades,
You know where to put the cork!"
It is what you deserved LIAR. That isnt a FACT that is your delusional fantasy. Sorry that you are too stupid to even know what a FACT is.
I guess we all know who buys the bullhorn, right?
Accumulating massive wealth is just like the hoarding by those people on TV with the two rooms filled with their magazine collection, it's the result of a mental illness.
AKA "Make stuff up"
What is obvious is that you are a liar and a brainwashed moron. You are too stupid to READ much less understand anything between the lines
Let's never forget: Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that do the same. It's time to apply the same rules from top to bottom: no bailouts, no handouts, and no copouts. An America built to last insists on responsibility from everybody.
For me, one of the most profound lines was when he challenged the "Job Creators" to ask themselves "What can I do to bring jobs back to my country?"
Of course, we know what their answer will be; they'll flip him off.
Righties: "You have to read between the lines. Obama wants to repeal the 2nd Amendment!"
Obama: "I want to celebrate success."
Righties: "You have to read between the lines. Obama wants to institute communism and become a totalitarian dictator!"
Obama: "I am a Christian."
Righties: "MUUUUSSSSSLIIIIIMMMMM!!!!!"
An example of the trogs' "dog hearing" that Gary Larson captured perfectly . . .
That's always dangerous, when people who have trouble following simple conversations on the surface, what's plainly being said, start trying to analyze the deeper meanings of others words.
And trogs looking for deeper meanings to things always ends up badly. Trogs aren't good at anything "deep". They need to stick with not understanding what is actually said instead of not understanding what they think someone was saying. Trogs thinking always leads to trouble.
ROFL, Andy -- that statement reminded of the one about how if you let chimps bang away at typewriters long enough, they'll eventually produce Shakespeare.
So, are you saying that if the chimps play with power tools long enough, they'll eventually construct a three bedroom house? :^)
Wingnuts move in the opposite direction, always causing more chaos and confusion the more effort they put into doing something.
I saw a good illustration of this last night on one of the cable shows. Remember that old woman in the grey fright wig who asked John McCain about the president being an Arab ? The audience laughed, and McCain corrected her.
This was juxtaposed with that more recent event, where a woman questioning Rick Santorum called the president an avowed Muslim with no legal right to be in the White House. This was met with cheers, and no correction from the GOP candidate.
Now, these weren't the exact same audience, Santorum's fans are probably more fundamentalist extremists than McCain's, but they were both made up of the Republican base, so the point was made;
With all of the reporting and info available over the past few years regarding Obama's religion / ethnicity / citizenship / place of birth, the wingnuts now know less than they did a few years ago.
Education actually has the opposite effect on the right wing brain than it does on a human brain. QED.
First, the Santorum woman was described as an old woman with a cane, so she is essentially the same woman as McCain encountered.....a Fox Geezer loaded with the same wingbot 1.0 software!
Second, you note " all of the reporting and info available over the past few years regarding Obama's religion / ethnicity / citizenship / place of birth"...
You are not reporting conditions from inside "the bubble" where that array of "info" is not available for public consumption on Fox News or on talk radio. Therefore that info doesn't even exist to educate or otherwise influence wingnuts one way or the other.
You are assuming some sort of different data set that updates the wingbot curriculum. All that those folks have learned in three years of repetition is that everything they knew then is still true today. Their education process involves using the same textbook over and over.
That also explains why they all present themselves as self-righteous and arrogant authorities on a subject!!!!
To adapt an old employers' adage:
Having three years of education is not the same as one year of education repeated twice more.
You have to learn something, don't you?
Your premise was sound. You simply forgot to carry the 1 when converting your reverse-axial-inversion-integer before tranferring the synaptic firing ratio into the Prokopiev calculation's matrix.
Quantum cartography of the wingnut universe is a new frontier in science... or comedy--I can't decide. Keep it coming.
Well, research shows that
Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies... Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice
No wonder these wingnuts hate science so much.
Man, I wish these people would come up with some other metaphor once in awhile.
I can see that being in the daily show.....
Not that money isn't important at all, but this mindset that money is all that matters is what's really depressing. How about a sense of accomplishment, pride, respect of the community and other business owners? Do those things not exist in the world of successful people? Supposedly people are only interested in making as much money as possible, and if that result is moderated by the government then they'll all just say to hell with the system and go on welfare.
Somehow, I doubt it.
Madoff had a lot of money. Was he a "success"? Was going after Madoff "punishing success"?
No -- on Inauguration Day they launched their offensives; the formal declaration of war was the day after Election Day . . .
The thing is, if you become a millionaire that way, the tax hikes Obama mentioned will never affect you. He's talking about people who make more than a million each year. People like Dave Ramsey and the three lying jackasses on the couch.
"Fiddle-dee-dee! War, war, war; this war talk's spoiling all the fun at every party this spring. I get so bored I could scream."
All we are asking is that the rich pay their fair share. That's all! We're not after all their precious money. So stop with the "war on success" BS.
Now, I'm not saying that he didn't "earn" that money, but did he really work harder for it than the Firefighter making $50,000?
Essentially, that's what the Troglodytes want us to believe.
And besides, I think we've already clearly established that hard work is measured by wealth, which means that Mitt Romney worked 400 times harder than any firefighter last year.
But people like Romneybot, who invested money years ago, get paid dividends on that investment and pay only 15%. In essence, royalties and dividends are the same, yet Romneybot is taxed less because some lobbyist has dubbed him a "job creator".
How is that fair?
On the books at least, he pays that "wink wink".
And that gig apparently pays well . . .
Because they love money more than anything else on earth...?
Sadly, just like these Christians who boo the golden rule, the religion of free enterprise is riddled with hypocrites and false prophets(and profits) as well. Just like Christians who pick and choose what apocryphal passages from the Old Testament to enforce and which to ignore, the free market faithful decide which economic theories work and don't work based on little more then faith. Like Christians downplaying the mistakes made by leaders in the past, so do the free market fundamentalist ignore the success of the New Deal, and refuse to acknowledge the failures of supply side theory.
(for the post-birth, anyway)
Smoking faux is bad for both your intelligence AND your morals!
Not everything President Obama does is "declaring WAR" on something.
Ramsey just declared WAR on originality.
Fox news declares WAR on journalism.
Fox and Friends declares WAR on intelligence.
Roger Ailes declares WAR on democracy.
Clothing declares WAR on nudity.
Charlie Sheen declares WAR on humility.
Music declares WAR on silence.
Media Matters declares WAR on misinformation.
Chairs declare WAR on standing.
What an easy, brainless use of hyperbole. Please get some new material. Declaring war on stuff now is meaningless since everything anyone does or doesn't do is declaring a war on something.
Christmas
Free enterprise
religion
capitalism
Halloween
What else? How about war on
motherhood
the flag
apple pie
plants
stupidity
the American ______ (whatever fits)
With a little creativity, the possibilities may appear endless.
As I told Imbecile in another thread, butting your head repeatedly against concrete helps . . .
More proof that wingnuts live in an alternate reality.
I just finished watching the enhanced SOTUA at whitehouse.gov, and heard no declaration of war, from either the President or the Congress, on success, Christmas, drugs, or any other non-warmaking entity . . .
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