Fox & Friends Again Calls For Tax Hike On Poor
January 25, 2012 9:42 am ET
From the January 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
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Previously:
Doocy: "Shared Sacrifice" Means "Expand[ing]" Taxpayer Base To 51% Who Don't Pay "Federal Taxes"
Fox Calls For Higher Taxes On Middle Class: "The Progressive Income Tax Has Not Been So Fair"
Carlson Needs To "Look At The Facts" On Taxes, Income Of The Wealthy
Fox Still Pushing Falsehood That Half Of Americans Are "Not Paying Taxes"
No, wait - that would mean that Romney would be paying around $3.4 million, while some lazy welfare queen wanna-be would only be paying around $3,400. That's not hardly fair.
It would be more like if everybody had to pay a $5,000 flat tax. Every man, woman and child would pay $5k. Mitt would pay $5k, welfare queens would pay $5k... Now THAT's fair.
Low payments of $100 per month are available if you call now.
(Payment assumes at least one dollar per month will go towards the principle. No more than $99 per month will be added to principle.)
And think of it - welfare queens with 3 kids = $20,000. That would sure help keep the population of the bla... er, "de-incintivize" procreation among those who couldn't afford it.
"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"
"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not."
"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge.
"Both very busy, sir."
"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I'm very glad to hear it."
First you mentioned the unemployed. If you're unemployed, you can start by getting a job. If you can't get a job, you can seek help from your family or your church. Or you can starve.
Then you mentioned being on disability. Disability? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Betcha they'd clip that, too.
You can join Captain Newt's Power Janitor Task Force to work off your debt !! ( Including the rental cost of wheelchair / floor buffer hybrids for the disabled)
my god- i'm loving that!
Oscar Wilde
What's that you say? The poor don't have any money to pay, but the wealthy do? The wealthy who got wealthy because of the Bush tax cuts that were supposed to create jobs that were never created so that the poor could get better work and start paying more in taxes.
Guy can't get past grade school logic.
The reason 47% of Americans end the year with no tax liability has nothing, NOTHING, to do with our tax code. No, the reason that many people end up getting their own money back from the federal government is because the poor have seen their wages decrease compared to inflation over the last 40 years. The middle class, over the same 40 years, have gotten about 11% in raises. The wealthy have seen their income skyrocket by 256%. So, the reason more Americans aren't paying taxes is because more than ever, more Americans aren't getting the raises they deserve.
Tell you what, Toxic Friends, you convince your corporate masters to hand out 40 years of overdue raises, and we'll see how many more Americans are suddenly paying taxes, okay?
But nope, republicans and Fox think that 47% don't pay ANY taxes at all, which is complete bull.
I bet they won't highlight that Mitt Romney actually pays little or no federal income taxes on most of his income. Instead, he pays a much lower capital gains tax.
Never gonna happen. I hate them. I try to pray they will first find a heart. And then promptly look into it and ask for compassion and empathy. I am not very optimistic, however.
Until then, I will wait upon my much "undeserved" tax refund from the federal government so that I can get my 10 year old car fixed so that I can continue to get to my 13 dollar an hour job wiping other people's asses (literally) and continue to pay my rent and feed my kids for another year.
I know, I know, this free ride of mine is sooooo sweet. I love sticking it to them suckers, them elites who are only trying to make it better for lowly and undeserving me.
WINNING!!!! (Duh)
Do you have a refrigerator and a microwave, too?
I've always wanted to speak with a real, live, wealthy person. What's it like? Being wealthy?
Guess what else I have? Hold on now...a telephone. Yep. Don't hate me cause I'm poor.
a house? you were lucky!!!
Of course, people like newt and mitt have the means to hide a lot of things, but let's take them at their words, they've disclosed everything. That's the F-ing point, they're the people who get to influence how the tax laws are written. I don't think anybody was accusing them of breaking the law, just calling them out on their whining about how they're being punished for success.
Sometime in the early 2000s I met this kid ( well, early-mid 20s) who worked for a contractor I used to do some business with. He was a carpenter, recently married with a brand new baby. Real nice, honest, hard-working chap.
I talked to him often during those years of the Bush administration, as wages were flattening out and the construction industry was floundering, and I knew he was jacking up his credit cards a bit. Not going out to restaurants or taking vacations, just getting by on his pay and his wife's( the new Mom) part-time pay.
A few years ago I ran into him, as I do occasionally, in my neighborhood. He'd been hit with all of those increased interest rates on his credit cards ( the banks who fund most presidential campaigns, notably W's), telling me he was late on a payment, which raised all of his cards to high 20s or 30% interest.
In sort of a hopeless situation, he defaulted, using one of those credit arbitrators to settle the accounts, and ruining his credit.
I bumped into him again just recently, and he's doing much better, as construction has rebounded a little in the past few years, and he's paid off all of his debt. But he told me something that shocked me ( somehow, he was able to laugh as he told me, what a sport); The I.R.S. sent him a letter informing him that he owed taxes on the amount that one of the creditors had reduced his balance by.
That is, let's say he had a balance of $5,000 ( probably on a borrowed amount that he'd repaid several times over), and was able to settle it through arbitration for $3,000. That $2,000 'discount' is reported as income of his, and a write-off for the bank, who reports it to the IRS. He's spent the past several years trying to get even, and now he owes the Fed three or four hundred bucks.
That is who is getting nailed for taxes. Those banks who have been making a killing off of the bad economy can make their money off of people trying to get by, keep them treading water for years while collecting the principal several times over, then settle on an amount, counting the reduction as a gift.
So screw Mitt Romney and his persecution complex.
Imagine, millions of people just trying to scratch by, destroying their credit, and getting boned for a few hundred on top of it, while the elites sit around figuring ways to shift more of the tax burden to the average American. These are the people MItt Romney thinks are jealous of him.
And lobbyists to change the tax code if it inconvenient.
Even if he was taxed 35% on the money he used for the initial investment, so what? Everything he's made since has been taxed at 15%. For example, if he made a million dollars, paid the 35%, then invested it, all subsequent dividends are taxed at 15%, no matter how much it is.
The original core of the investment was taxed, but the dividends are new money. Double taxation is a myth.
On the same program, on the same day, people talk about "war on success" and then call for "war on the poor" (if the definition of "war" comes from a consistent standard). That is either a complete mental disconnect, or shameless and willful hypocrisy.
Sorry< I don't remember the source of that statement.
oh by the way fox and fiends, you better go after those poor workers too for using the form ez. its free to file you fed tax, and get returns this year.
Now, the Troglodytes are actually serious about it. Jesus H. Christ; they're stupid.
I wish you a swift recovery. You deserve it.
Simple solutions for simple minds.
You're right, of course, just as you mentioned in your previous post. Even taxed at 35%, the millionaire has plenty left to live a lavish lifestyle. The worker making $40,000, however, spends anything left after taxes on essentials, with maybe enough disposable income to eat out or go to a movie once in a while. If he's really lucky, he's able to squirrel a little bit away for retirement.
This new type of Republican (part tea party, part fascist) really has bought into the hateful rhetoric and actually sees liberals as the enemy and hope against hope that they get to inflict some violence.
This is what our Republican media has brought us to.
150 years ago, the ancestors of these people took up arms and committed mass treason because they resented the Northern Liberals telling them what to do. That resentment has been seething under the surface ever since, and the Teabaggers have taken full advantage of it, just as Nixon did with his Southern Strategy.
Here in Tennessee, Sales Tax is the main revenue source. In fact, our Teabaggers are working on a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw any future Income Tax. Last time somebody proposed an Income Tax, the Hate Radio jocks organized their own version of an Occupy-the-Capitol protest.
My 85 year old mother gets $880.00/mo. from SS - She doesn't have an extra buck, BUCK-O . .
Without me she'd be eating dog food!!!