Conservative movement divided on two fronts over AIG
To: Interested Parties
From: Jessica Levin, Media Matters for America
Re: Conservative movement divided on two fronts over AIG
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009
As Media Matters for America has recently documented, there is an emerging split between conservatives on Capitol Hill and conservatives in the media over American International Group's (AIG) employee bonus packages. The Washington Post's Greg Sargent noted this schism yesterday:
Mitch McConnell recently blasted AIG's bonuses as an "outrage." John Boehner said that the "American people are rightly outraged." And Eric Cantor bemoaned the "stunning lack of accountability" on AIG's part. But increasingly, leading conservative media figures are moving in a different direction: Defending AIG.
Media Matters has noted several examples of conservative media figures defending AIG:
On the March 17 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh declared, "A lynch mob is expanding: the peasants with their pitchforks surrounding the corporate headquarters of AIG, demanding heads. Death threats are pouring in. All of this being ginned up by the Obama administration." Later Limbaugh claimed, "This $500,000 limit on executive pay -- let me tell you why it won't work. New York City will die. New York City needs a whole bunch of people being paid a whole lot of money, so they can tax their butts off, so that the city can maintain its stupid streets, potholes, and welfare state. Without the super wealthy in New York, it's over. ... This -- it's just a populist ruse. It's just designed to people go, 'Yeah, yeah!' "
On the March 17 edition of his syndicated radio show, Hannity aired Sen. Chuck Schumer's (D-NY) statement that if AIG employees do not voluntarily return their bonuses, "we plan to virtually tax all of it. ... [W]e'll put in place a new law that will allow us to tax these bonuses at a very high rate." Hannity then stated: " 'Tax all of it.' In other words, Chucky is coming for you. The government is coming to get your money." Hannity later added: "Whether you like the AIG bonuses or not, think about this: They're going to make a law, and they're going to tax every single penny of it, virtually all of it. In other words, we're going to just steal their money. And they're not going to be able to do a darn thing about it, because we're the government, and if we decide we can confiscate all of their wealth, we're gonna do it."
On the March 18 edition of his Fox News show, Beck stated that by proposing to recoup the AIG bonuses, Congress is not "trying to solve this problem" but rather trying to "channel the outrage away from their roles" and "direct it toward the faceless bonus recipients at AIG." After stating that he doesn't "like the idea of failed businesses paying bonuses," Beck stated: "But what I really, really don't like here is the idea that we are willing to give in to mob rule, and that's what this is." He added: "I mean, the only thing they haven't said is, 'Bring out the monster.' It's mob rule. They are attempting to void legally biding contracts."
In addition, while congressional Republicans are now criticizing Democrats over a provision in the stimulus bill restricting the ability of companies receiving federal funds to pay employee bonuses in the future -- with Republicans saying that Democrats should have ensured the restrictions applied retroactively -- several Republican senators previously took a different position on government involvement in employee compensation. But media have given little attention to this inconsistency. For example, in reporting on the NRSC's attack on congressional Democrats, Time's Jay Newton-Small ignored several recent examples of Republicans -- documented by The Huffington Post -- decrying government intervention in executive compensation:
- Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL)
"What executives have done is troubling, but it's equally troubling to have government telling shareholders how much they can pay the executives."
- Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC)
"If you accept the fact that the government should be setting pay scales in America, then it's hard not to go after these exorbitant salaries. But I think it's a sad day in America when the government starts setting pay, no matter how outlandish they are."
- Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT)
"Some of the things some of these bank executives have been doing demonstrates they have a tin ear. At the same time, I'm generally troubled by wage and price control, no matter how logical it may appear."
- Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
"Because of their excesses, very bad things begin to happen, like the United States government telling a company what it can pay its employees. That's not a good thing in America."
- Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO)
"If Congress can run a financial institution, it belies everything I've seen in this body. Government does not do a good job running private institutions."
For more information on the media's coverage of the AIG bonuses, please visit: www.mediamatters.org










"Conservative Movement"
So are you guys a nonpartisan research group or a political operation? If political, it means you are criminals and breaking the tax laws.
So are you guys a nonpartisan research group or a political operation? If political, it means you are criminals and breaking the tax laws.
From the "About Us" page here at MMFA:
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
MMFA is very up-front about their mission, and are not breaking any tak laws. If you can't comprehend this, then YOU are mentally deficient and need to getr yourself locked into a rubber room for your own protection. I mean, anyone who would use the handle "Cheney2012" is a few tacos short of a combination plate, IMHO.
WZWRITER You are soooo right in that last post. Anyone with the handle CHENEY2012 must have their head up their rear end. If I remember right ex VP CHENEY IS EVEN LESS POPULAR THAN BUSH
Is it I who have the mental problem over my choice of handle or is it the idiots who actually make such a fuss about it. Baiting you people is the point. Not that I would expect any of you liberals to actually 'get it.'
You have mental issues regardless of your 'nick'. You could call yourself Bozo the Clown and your mental status will not change.
What's there to 'get'? You're an absolute moron. There, summed up in four little words. Happy now?
You can call yourself dick for all I care, dick. Your point is still unnoticeable.
I agree...
With Podesta, Emanuel, Begala and Carville roaming the streets it is important for anyone who crosses them to protect themselves in a rubber room. They used to 'work' for Clinton.
More paranoid conspiracy BS. Time to check into your padded cell now.
Another Mark Levin fan apparently... they are so damn stupid. True to form.
Cheney, if you can equate MM using the words 'conservative movement' with it being a 'political operation' then you are in dire need of electroshock therapy.
As part of their tax-exemption, Media Matters must show they are not coordinating political activity with the DNC, the White House and Congress.
In the case of this "Limbaugh as GOP Leader" it could not be more obvious that there is cooridnation. They can do that all they want. Just can't take taxpayer money to do it. And as liberals have taught us, receiving a tax-emption is the same as taking taxpayer dollars.
Cheney2012...
The best thing to do is quit whining. Media Matters is kicking your asses because we expose you. It's that simple, man! We expose your lies.
Quit whining, challenge your own party, and try to become relevant again.
Hah! Quit whining? Not in their DNA, sorry.
LIMIT,you are correct about CHENEY but I believe that idiot won't listen. I told him earlier to come back when he grows up.
So recording, transcribing, and commenting on reichwing BS is now 'coordinating political activity'?
Once again, your demonstration of utter stupidity is a marvel. You sound like an insane conspiracy theorist.
How long have you been coming here? Where do you come up with this stuff? Oh yeah - you just MAKE IT UP, just like every other conservative does.
How long have you been coming here? Where do you come up with this stuff? Oh yeah - you just MAKE IT UP, just like every other conservative does.
Either that, or he's getting his facts out of Mark Levin's a$$, :-)
The New Republican Party has clearly "fused" with the Conservative media (Fox News, Rush, Beck, etc) and the two are feeding off each other. It is hard to tell which is host and which is parasite since the relationship seems to reverse now and again.
The problem is that the resulting "fused" organism has not yet fully integrated and the two sides sometimes end up fighting each other. Rush gives orders and the Republicans either don't understand the orders or make mistakes carrying them out.
What is amazing is that all the opinion polls indicate that following Rush and the Conservative Media is a sure-fire way to lose elections. But various Republicans still keep listening to the Conservative Media and taking their marching orders from Rush and not their own party leaders (whomever they are).
Clearly, this new organism has some dangerous self-destructive tendencies.
Good point Slug
The Cons are well aware of their dominant position in the media, but they are powerless to capitalize.
They've tied themselves at the hip to lies and lunatics and opportunists (Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.) and the American people have seen through the game a rejected them.
They have no coherent platform so they keep getting trounced at the ballot box. Fine with me.
Very good point.
To listen to Rush Limbaugh for a period of time is like listening to some wack job dictator of the conservative movement.As a matter of fact me and my friends have named him "WACKO RUSHBO THE COMEDIAN SHOCK JOCK".
I prefer the name FAR RIGHT WING GASBAG.
“The New Republican Party has clearly "fused" with the Conservative media (Fox News, Rush, Beck, etc)…Clearly, this new organism has some dangerous self-destructive tendencies.”
“…self-destructive tendencies”! Oh, goodie!
As I see it, "Conservative Movement" is synonomous with "bowel movement" - they're both full of the same material.
:-)
wzwriter you are sooooooo right.
"Let me tell you something folks, I am all for the AIG bailouts and I am all for the AIG bonuses."
That was Limbaugh on Monday 3/16/09 at the start of his show. You can hear it (until Monday 3/23/09) at the KSFO website. Go to the podcast menu and select the 7 day archive. Then select Monday and listen to the beginning of the 9-10am hour.
Then, near the end of the 10-11am hour, same day, Limbaugh displayed his math skills with caller Nathan. He said to Nathan: "I guarantee you, whatever amount of bonus money these people at AIG are getting -- your share, probably less than a penny."
Lets see. $165 million in bonus money and about 140 million taxpayers. You're a little off Rush. But of course Rush is one of Ayn Rand's Atlas's, and he produces real wealth.
This is the first time I have visited this website, and I am truly glad I did. Very informative and eye opening.
can't we all get a long friends?
Three words for the million-dollar bonus babies at AIG:
Boo
Frickin'
Hoo
What confounds me over this whole issue is AIG was given the misguided bailout money to help them stay in buisness. Holding to contractual obligations is part of that. These bonuses AIG was contractualy obligated to pay and made no secret about it to anyone. In fact language in the bill allowed for the bonuses.
So what's the problem? Obviosly the government wanted AIG to stay in buisness and if they had not held to their contractual obligations they wouldn't have been in buisness long.
Also, how is it the employee's fault? Why should they be taxed more just because their company fulfilled their contract. If you had a contract that promised a million dollar bonus at a specific time and you had done everything you were supposed to do you would expect to get it.
It seems Congress's problem should be with themselves for passing a bill they didn't read closely enough. Or with the Obama Administration for not knowing what was going on in their own house and signing the bill into law without fully reading it.
You make some good points, but the last sentence is wrong. It was the Bush Administration that enacted the TARP legislation.
My apologies on that one mistake.
lol. You made all the ladies flustered with the Cheney handle. THAT's funny!
Liberals are all about dividing/destroying our country and would put anyone in front of a firing squad that would dare get in their way.
Again, the hatred directed at other Americans from these folks is classless and quite shallow. It is a shame that they are included in the title of American.
REALITY, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKIGN ABOUT. We LIBERALS DONT HATE this country like you CONSERVATIVES. You clowns DEMONIZE ANYONE that dares to disagree with you and your FAR RIGHT WING views.