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January 06, 2010 12:35 pm ET

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Media Matters challenges host to live up to self-professed interest in accuracy

Washington, DC - In response to Glenn Beck lashing out for being chosen as 2009's "Misinformer of the Year," Media Matters for America challenged him to contact the organization if he believes any critiques of his show are false or deceptive. Media Matters' President Eric Burns sent Beck a letter inviting the Fox News host -- who has repeatedly professed an interest in accuracy -- to call the newly installed "Beck phone" anytime he believes he is being unfairly criticized.

 The "Beck phone"

The letter reads:

January 5, 2010

Mr. Beck,

On October 13, you unveiled a "red phone" that the White House could use to call in and "correct the mistakes" on your show. On Monday, that red phone made another appearance, as you - responding to Media Matters naming you 2009's Misinformer of the Year - again asserted your commitment to the truth:

"If I'm not telling the truth, then why not just call me? That's all you have to do. Call. Why is it that you attack this program, this network and anyone, the tea party goers, anyone who stands in your way, Washington? Why attack? You see, lies are so easily stopped. Lies that are broadcast nightly to an entire nation are easily stopped. They're called laws -- or here's an idea, standards. Even if you think I'm wildly irresponsible, you have to know that News Corp. is not stupid. It's a company worth billions of dollars. Do you really think this corporation would risk everything on an irresponsible crazy guy? That doesn't make sense. And yet, the phone still doesn't ring. Truth."

While we do not have the number for your red phone, we have on many occasions corrected falsehoods and misinformation from Fox News' Glenn Beck and Premiere Radio Network's The Glenn Beck Program - you simply refuse to acknowledge it. You claimed our decision to name you 2009's "Misinformer of the Year" was not backed up "with any facts." However, that decision was based on the 175 research items we posted in 2009 alone addressing claims made on your radio and television shows. For example:

  • Beck falsely claimed "[o]nly 3 percent" of stimulus plan would be "spent in the next 12 months." Beck falsely claimed that "[o]nly 3 percent" of the Democratic economic stimulus plan would be "spent in the next 12 months." Beck's figures were based on a partial Congressional Budget Office cost estimate that excluded faster-moving provisions in the bill. According to the CBO's full cost estimate of the bill, 11.2 percent of the $816 billion bill would be spent in the first seven-and-a-half months after the bill is enacted, and, when including the bill's tax cut provisions, $169 billion -- or 20.7 percent of the bill's total cost -- would take effect in the first seven-and-a-half months.
  • Beck aired false claim that a union only needs 30 percent support from employees to be "established." Beck aired an on-screen graphic with the headline, "THEN ... WAGNER ACT," which falsely asserted that if 30 percent of employees want a union, "it gets established." In fact, the Wagner Act, which was passed in the 1930s, required that for union representation to be established, a majority of employees in a bargaining unit within a company had to "designate or select" a union to represent them. The National Labor Relations Act as it stands today also contains a majority requirement.
  • Beck falsely claimed average UAW worker makes $154 per hour. Beck falsely claimed that "the average UAW [United Auto Workers] worker" earns "[a] hundred and fifty-four dollars an hour if you look at -- you know, if you add in all of the benefits." In fact, a recent Barclays Capital analysis reportedly found that U.S. automakers "pay an average of $55 an hour in wages and benefits to hourly workers."
  • Beck falsely asserted that U.S. does not fingerprint foreign visitors or collect rapists' DNA. Beck asserted that "[w]e can't fingerprint anybody who's coming into this country because that would be offensive" and that "[w]e can't take DNA samples from killers or rapists, but you can have your fingerprint taken if you want to sell your house." In fact, the Department of Homeland Security does take fingerprints from "aliens seeking admission to the United States" at U.S. entry points, and according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, "All 50 states require that convicted sex offenders provide a DNA sample."
  • Beck falsely claimed Iowa marriage ruling "is actually about going into churches." Beck falsely asserted that the Iowa Supreme Court's decision striking down the state's ban on same-sex marriage "is actually about going into churches ... and saying you can't teach anything else." In fact, the ruling does not affect religious institutions' definitions of marriage.
  • Beck echoes tired falsehood that ACORN received stimulus funds. Beck echoed the false Republican talking point by stating, "By including ACORN, or groups like them, in the stimulus package, we have guaranteed them billions of dollars to buy more votes for the party that helps them the most." In fact, the stimulus bill does not mention ACORN or otherwise single it out for funding.
  • Beck falsely claimed $1.4 million in stimulus spent on doors, which actually cost $246,100 to repair. Beck falsely claimed that the government spent $1.4 million of economic stimulus funds "to repair a door" at Dyess Air Force Base. In fact, the doors repaired were hangar doors and did not cost that much money. Recovery.gov actually states that the government awarded AFCO Technologies nearly $1.2 million to replace gas mains on the base, and $246,100 to repair doors in Building 5112.
  • Beck falsely claimed Obama said he doesn't want health reform protesters to "do a lot of talking." Beck falsely claimed that President Obama was "reacti[ng] to the health care protests" when he said, "I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking." In fact, Obama was not talking about public protests or even health care reform; he was discussing "folks on the other side of the aisle pointing at the federal budget and somehow trying to put that at our feet."
  • Beck reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact. After Andrew Breitbart posted a video of an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, California, claiming that she had killed her ex-husband, Beck joined Fox News colleagues Karl Rove, Greta Van Susteren, and Sean Hannity in promoting it without fact-checking it or indicating that they had contacted ACORN for a response to the claim. In fact, ACORN stated that the employee made up the story because she recognized that the actors in the video "were clearly playing with" her so she "matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios," and, indeed, the San Bernardino Police Department has said her claim is false.
  • Beck, falsely claimed IPCC's Latif has "pulled the rug out" from under climate change consensus. Beck joined Sean Hannity in seizing on a World Climate Conference presentation on short-term natural climate variability by Mojib Latif, a prominent climate modeler, to suggest that, in Beck's words, Latif has "backed out now and said, 'We were wrong,' " about global warming because, according to Hannity, Latif stated that global temperatures are actually "cooling." In fact, Latif asserted that contrary to common "media" misperceptions of global warming as a "monotonic process" in which "each year is warmer than the preceding year," there are significant natural climate variations within the decadal timescale that do not change the "long-term warming trend."
  • Beck falsely claimed Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong. Throughout most of his October 15 Fox News program, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that White House communications director Anita Dunn "worships" and "idolizes" "her hero" Mao Zedong. In fact, in the video that Beck aired as evidence to support his claims, Dunn offered no endorsement of Mao's ideology or atrocities -- rather, she commented that Mao and Mother Teresa were two of her "favorite political philosophers," and based on short quotes from them, she offered the advice that "you don't have to follow other people's choices and paths" or "let external definition define how good you are internally."
  • Beck falsely accused Reid of lying about support for public option. Following reports that Senate leaders will include a public option in health care legislation, on Fox & Friends, Glenn Beck falsely suggested that only "35 percent of the population" supported a public option and accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of lying when he said, in co-host Gretchen Carlson's words, "the public wants this." In fact, polling consistently shows broad support for the public option, and the Fox News poll Beck is presumably referencing did not ask specifically about a public option.
  • Beck falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "You don't get a single benefit until 2014." On November 19, Beck falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "All of the benefits of this bill don't kick in until when? You don't get a single benefit until 2014." According to a document released by Senate Democrats summarizing the "Immediate Benefits" of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the bill included numerous benefits that would "be available in the first year after enactment" of the bill. Indeed, Washington Post writer Ezra Klein published a list of benefits that the Senate bill would provide "before 2014."
  • Reviving "born alive" falsehood, Beck claims Obama suggested it's OK to "put a spike in the baby's head." Beck falsely claimed that President Obama "suggested that [it] was OK" to "go into those pregnant women and pull the babies out of them and put a spike in the baby's head," echoing the oft-repeated right-wing falsehood that Obama did not support protecting babies who survived botched abortions. In fact, while serving in the state Senate, Obama opposed legislation to amend the Illinois Abortion Law because the amendment threatened abortion rights and was unnecessary since existing law already required doctors to provide medical care for babies who survived abortions.
  • Beck falsely claims no jobs are being "saved or created." Beck falsely claimed that "jobs are not being saved or created" and that the Obama administration is "creating the make-believe 'saved or created' category" for jobs. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently estimated that the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009, which was heavily promoted by President Obama, created 1.6 million jobs, and the Bush administration repeatedly stated that its economic initiatives had "saved or created" jobs.
  • Beck falsely claimed Robert Creamer "stole" $2 million from banks. Beck falsely claimed that progressive activist Robert Creamer "stole" $2 million from banks while serving as Executive Director of the Illinois Public Action Fund. In fact, Creamer was never accused of stealing any money and the judge in the case reportedly gave Creamer a lighter sentence because no one suffered any "out of pocket losses."
  • Beck led charge advancing "Lie of the Year" contender that Holdren supported forced abortions and sterilizations. Beck repeatedly advanced the false claim that White House science and technology adviser John Holdren -- whom Beck called "our science czar" -- supported forced abortions and putting sterilants in drinking water. PolitiFact previously declared his claim "pants on fire" false and nominated it for "Lie of the Year," stating that Holdren and his coauthors "make clear that they did not support coercive means of population control." Beck's claim was Politifact.com's runner up for lie of the year.

Your response to being named "Misinformer of the Year," however, did not appear to be backed up "with any facts." For example, you claimed that death panels were "discovered by The New York Times" but the article you cite makes no mention of health care reform or death panels.  You stated that you "didn't want" Van Jones "to be fired" but on the September 3 edition of your radio show you said that "[r]emoving Van Jones is not enough" and called on listeners to ask "Why is this man in [Obama's] administration?"

You've repeatedly professed your interest in accuracy, stating that you would immediately correct any errors on your broadcasts. Unfortunately, it's hard to take this claim of yours - like so many others - seriously. For example, it took you more than four months to correct your assertion that Van Jones was a "convicted felon" who had spent "six months in prison" - and you certainly haven't corrected any of the troubling errors we've highlighted above. 

But just in case you are truly interested in setting the record straight, Media Matters is going take a cue from your October 13 show. We've installed a "Beck phone" at our Washington headquarters, accessible by dialing (202) XXX-XXXX. I challenge you to contact us anytime you believe one of our critiques of your show is deceptive or false. We'll be waiting for your call. 

Warm regards,

Eric Burns

President, Media Matters for America

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    • Author by proudconservative (January 06, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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      This will be sweeeeeet!
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      • Author by Cheney2012 (January 07, 2010 12:30 pm ET)
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        Hey didn't Beck put the phone in so the White House can call him about his supposed lies.

        MMFA -- which is the White House -- should be calling him.
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        • Author by wzwriter (January 07, 2010 5:10 pm ET)
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          Hey, Cheney2012 - as your hero once told Sen. Leahy, go f**k yourself.
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    • Author by proudconservative (January 06, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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      Maybe C-SPAN will give pelosi, reid and obama a number to call in too!
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      • Author by wzwriter (January 06, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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        Maybe someone can give YOU a number you can use to get a clue.....
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      • Author by TX (January 06, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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        The C-SPAN thing is just another promise the 'president' made while campaigning that will turn out to be ANOTHER LIE.
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        • Author by Max Credits (January 06, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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          I, too, do not think Glenn Beck we accept this simply challenge by Media Matters. Total wimp, that one. Oh, wait... you and proundcon are whining about the NFL playoff seedlings or pecan pie recipes or something similarly totally unrelated to the topic here.
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      • Author by New Frontier (January 06, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
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        Maybe C-SPAN will give pelosi, reid and obama a number to call in too!
        Maybe Glenn Beck will someday have the guts to go outside of his studio and actually confront those he accuses. But I doubt it.
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        • Author by Roundup_Logan (January 07, 2010 5:46 am ET)
             
          And the truth shall prevail. . .I'm sure anyone who's been "accused" of anything by Mr. Beck could go "on air" anytime with him and debate the topics. However, they choose not to from the dusting off of the facts right up to yesterdays show. America loves to see a debate. The telephone idea that Mr. Beck came up with must have been brilliant for MM to try and replicate it. Really? Are you serious? That's the best you guys can do?
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    • Author by wzwriter (January 06, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
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      Beck: Even if you think I'm wildly irresponsible, you have to know that News Corp. is not stupid. It's a company worth billions of dollars. Do you really think this corporation would risk everything on an irresponsible crazy guy?

      Why not?? News Corp. is OWNED by an irresponsible crazy guy!!!! :-)
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    • Author by wzwriter (January 06, 2010 1:14 pm ET)
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      And yet, the phone still doesn't ring.

      It probably isn't even connected.....
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    • Author by magnolialover (January 06, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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      I think MMFA should enact Beck Phone Watch 2010. Just list number of days the phone stays silent. And, only calls from Beck count. No staffers. No producers. Beck only. Start the count!

      Something tells me, he won't call. Ever.
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      • Author by planesdrifter (January 07, 2010 9:32 am ET)
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        Don't hold your breath. It's just another challenge like Keith Olbermann to Hannity to be waterboarded for charity. Wasn't it back in April '09 that Sean "The Coward" promised to show how meaningless waterboarding is by allowing it to be done on himself? Fux News' pompous blowhards will never live up to their own self-aggrandized hype.
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    • Author by Mr. Katanga (January 06, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
         
      Awesome! Let's hope Beck is dumb enough to keep his whinning against MM going.
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    • Author by jeff191 (January 06, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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      Why is it that every time someone points out that Beck or Palin or Kristol etc may not have been telling the whole truth, it is considered an attack.If you believe you are being unfairly attacked then feel free to engage your attackers in argument. of course you cant do that because you are just making stuff up. As to news corp not being stupid. you are implying that there are laws keeping you honest. you knew that is not true. yours is an opinion show. you dont get fined for being wrong or stupid or crazy
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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (January 06, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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      I'll bet big money that Glenn will recite the phone number for the Beck phone while he's on the air (personally, I'm leaning towards radio; he's much more unhinged on the radio) and get the wingnuts to flood the line.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 06, 2010 4:07 pm ET)
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        You might be on to something here. He'll give out the number, the wingnuts will flood the line, therefore MMFA will have to disconnect it, one of Glenn's wingnut buddies will let him know the line is down, he'll try to call (on the air), the message will say, the line has been disconnected, and Glenn will declare victory, and that MMFA didn't "DARE" talk to him.
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    • Author by PurpleState (January 06, 2010 3:37 pm ET)
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      What a great idea.

      Ring
      Ring
      Ring
      Ring
      Ring
      Ring
      Ring

      Banana Phone.
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    • Author by Concerned Scientist (January 06, 2010 4:47 pm ET)
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      "Even if you think I'm wildly irresponsible, you have to know that News Corp. is not stupid. It's a company worth billions of dollars. Do you really think this corporation would risk everything on an irresponsible crazy guy?"

      Wait a second here. Your argument is that you are backed by a big news corporation so you cannot be telling a lie? Is this statement not in direct opposition to Fox News' whole mantra? Fox New claims that they "Fair and Balanced" unlike the other mainstream "liberal" new organizations that report "liberal" media bias and "liberal lies" and are run by big corporations as well. So if a conservative news organization ( if you can call it news) would not risk everything and report falsehoods because they would risk loosing everything then the same goes for a "liberal" media organization. Which negates the argument of the "lying libera" media. Glenn - do you not realize you just destroyed the argument of the hand that feeds to defend yourself against valid criticism?
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    • Author by mookie von zipper (January 06, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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      i have a feeling this phone tag crap will go nowhere, which will play right into media matters' hands... much the same way beck exploits the fact no white house lackey has called his hot line (as if a cabinet member or the man himself would actually call)...

      if he has any stones he'll invite burns on his show, and if burns has any he'll accept...

      beck is on fox as i write this... he opened with his non-ringing phone schtick, but no mention of the "beck line" yet...

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      • Author by mookie von zipper (January 06, 2010 6:13 pm ET)
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        beck just ended... no "beck line" mentioned that i noticed, although i have other stuff going on around me, including 2 hungry dogs wanting dinner, but i don't think he acknowledged media matters today...

        if he doesn't mention it by tomorrow or friday i suspect he won't bother... but the best show on fox news, red eye, has acknowledged the existence of media matters:

        robot theater presents "what's it like to work at media matters?"



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        • Author by New Frontier (January 06, 2010 7:54 pm ET)
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          That Red Eye show is no different than what you have to pick up while walking your dogs.
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          • Author by mookie von zipper (January 06, 2010 8:38 pm ET)
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            if by no different you mean pretty great, then we're on the same page...

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            • Author by New Frontier (January 06, 2010 9:25 pm ET)
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              Most sane people wouldn't call dog poop on the sidewalk "pretty great", but then again most sane people wouldn't call Red Eye the best show on Fox News either. Of course, that's not saying much.
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        • Author by rikntx (January 07, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
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          Although comedy is rather subjective, that little skit in the link is a perfect example of the far right's total lack of understanding on the concept of humor. It was neither clever nor funny.

          Three guys walk into a bar, the fourth guy ducks.

          Now that's humor! :-D
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    • Author by smmnth1002 (January 06, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
         
      Is Beck smart enough to operate a phone ?? Can he even see the numbers through all those tears ??
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    • Author by captfoster2 (January 06, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
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      And this is just the short list.

      Sheesh... that Glenn Beck sure is a busy boy
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    • Author by rufur52 (January 06, 2010 6:00 pm ET)
         
      THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. WHAT MORE CAN BE DO OR DIG UP. HAVE ANY OF YOU WATCHED OBAMA DECIPTION? IT WILL ALSO OPEN YOUR EYES AND CONFIRM WHAT GLENN IS TALKING ABOUT. PLEASE PASS ALL THESE THING AROUND AND SAVE THIS NATION.
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    • Author by darkheath (January 06, 2010 6:02 pm ET)
         
      Eric,

      You're awesome. I think I'm getting a mancrush.

      Any chance MMfA can get it's own cable network? I'd seriously want to help.

      david
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    • Author by cmj14300 (January 06, 2010 6:58 pm ET)
         
      Love Glenn... please forward his call to me if he does call... please Mr. Eric Burns!!! Thanks!
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    • Author by felixw (January 06, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
         
      I loved learning what it's like to work at Media Matters.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhPi5FoIEo
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    • Author by luckycharmz (January 06, 2010 9:44 pm ET)
         
      GO BECK! Facts not Fiction, Truth will prevail
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    • Author by ingemar (January 06, 2010 10:09 pm ET)
         
      "Media Matters for America challenged him to contact the organization if he believes any critiques of his show are false or deceptive"

      This is very Olbermann-esque.

      How unoriginal. Here's a better idea...Why don't you lobby to have Glenn Beck tell you the number so you can call on the show as well?

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    • Author by diamonds (January 07, 2010 1:24 am ET)
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      Many of these are probably correct, no one is perfect after all. 30% of employees can get an election for a union, not actually establish one, a technical detail (but as far as I can tell here, justly levied). Some of these are probably contradictory, Beck isn't the only one claiming the UAW workers make $154/hr in wages+benefits, in fact that's the standard number I have heard, true or false. That said, most of these are fairly minor details that don't change the bigger point and there is no evidence any of it is an outright made up lie. There is a pretty low signal to noise ratio here, let's go over some of the egregious examples.

      Beck echoes tired falsehood that ACORN received stimulus funds.
      They did, along with other generic grants, did they not? Not only that, they receive other federal funding as well.

      Beck falsely claimed Obama said he doesn't want health reform protesters to "do a lot of talking."
      Did he ever even imply that? Obama wasn't terribly specific but it seemed like he was referring to the Bush administration and congress. Not to mention, similar comments have been made at the protesters (racists, nazis, insurance companies paid everyone off, etc).

      Beck reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact.
      If you mean it is a fact she said that, well, she did. I don't know if you missed the part where it could be made up, that option was always left open. But without an investigation, and only a primary quote like that, proving it true isn't an option. The whole point was that she claimed that, never that ACORN hires murderers.

      Beck falsely claimed Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong.
      He never made that extreme of a claim, and in fact played the entire video clip start to end, several minutes of it, including her praise of Mother Teresa.

      Beck falsely accused Reid of lying about support for public option.
      This one is technically correct, since it's not the public option, it's support for this specific healthcare proposal as a whole that is at 35%.

      Beck falsely claimed that under the Senate health care bill, "You don't get a single benefit until 2014."
      The key language used here (conveniently left out) is paying out. None (or at least, in the bills that I read, maybe it has changed since then) of the tax money collected is spent on healthcare procedures until 2014. And of course this entire "fact" is up in the air since the bills seem to be re-written every month, further confusing the issue.

      Reviving "born alive" falsehood, Beck claims Obama suggested it's OK to "put a spike in the baby's head."
      Yes it was already illegal, however that didn't stop the state executive government from enforcing that law. On a vote to toughen enforcement, he voted no.

      Beck falsely claims no jobs are being "saved or created."
      Which according to some studies but not others is correct. Extending employment by a day, or hiring a temporary worker for a month, counts as one job "saved or created." There is no standard definition to it, nor is it a broadly accepted economic concept, and you are hard-pressed to find any academic instruction on it. It also misses the argument that in order for the government to create jobs, it needs to take money from other sectors, reducing jobs more than a dollar for a dollar, due to deadweight losses (which unlike "saved or created" is a widely accepted economic term). I won't argue the point but there are plenty of people who do (which is the point here).

      Beck led charge advancing "Lie of the Year" contender that Holdren supported forced abortions and sterilizations.
      Hmm, turns out Holdren did support it, he co-authored a book including it, only recently did he acknowledge and retract that opinion (He was probably honest, but of course he would, it was at a senate confirmation hearing). I'm not sure about you, but if I were authoring a book that espouses the benefits of forced abortions I would make an author's note or something about it, or if I wasn't the one who wrote it and truly didn't know at the time of writing I would surely try and find out which of my colleagues held that opinion after the fact. There was nothing of the sort.

      To tell you the truth I am actually impressed, this is the first time I have actually seen any facts that appear to be legitimately wrong. But do me a favor and find more stuff that is actually false and not just technical errors or misspellings (don't worry too much, NewsBusters can't do that either).
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      • Author by Meremark (January 07, 2010 3:29 am ET)
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        technically, diamonds are lumps of coal.

        actually, you make some good valid points and so prove being not a Beck proxy ... but maybe a CIA one, where the dominant percentage of such intelligent well-organized writing issues from, and in which institutional fascism seeded and cultivated by CIA King Geo 'Herbie Wimp' Bush favors and feeds bozo Beck, like a son.

        technically, going tree by tree, bark type by bark type, you can conclude that you stand in Liar Beck Forest.
        Decidedly anyone and everyone can figure it's the Liar Fox lair.

        Period. Now Liar Beck can call it in and read the script, cold.


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        • Author by TheSarge (January 07, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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          Er, no. The diamond is an allotrope of carbon, but unlike coal it is not related to petroleum. Coal contains carbon, but diamonds are not lumps of coal. It's much more complicated than that. Much, much more complicated. You wouldn't say that water is really just oxygen, would you? Hydrogen would be very mad at you if you said that. And hydrogen has the hydrogen bomb! ;)

          I will agree, though, that Beck is a liar.
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        • Author by open_mind (January 07, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
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          Many of these are probably correct, no one is perfect after all.
          What? Whether something is "correct" or not is a binary proposition. Either it is correct or it isn't. There is no "probably" correct. You can't explain it away as "nobody's perfect" either. Beck needs to acknowledge he made mistakes. That is what the rest of us do and we're not perfect either.
          30% of employees can get an election for a union, not actually establish one, a technical detail (but as far as I can tell here, justly levied).
          So what is wrong with Beck admitting he was wrong, which MMFA has demonstrated?
          Some of these are probably contradictory, Beck isn't the only one claiming the UAW workers make $154/hr in wages+benefits, in fact that's the standard number I have heard, true or false.
          Well it is quite obviously false as has been demonstrated by MMfA. If you can prove otherwise then do so. It does not matter that others are misinformed as well. Beck should check his facts before just regurgitating the rightwing echo-chamber - which is frequently and notoriously wrong as we have seen from countless examples.
          That said, most of these are fairly minor details that don't change the bigger point and there is no evidence any of it is an outright made up lie. There is a pretty low signal to noise ratio here, let's go over some of the egregious examples.
          Actually just about all of the issues cited negate or mitigate Beck's central points. For example, Beck uses a number that is almost triple the actual amount in order to argue that the failure of GM is due to the unions. The actual dollar number makes Beck's argument much less clear. And as far as there being "no evidence any of it is an outright made up lie", that is a strawman. MMFA did not make that charge. The only issue is that Beck has said some falsehoods contrary to his claims.
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          • Author by diamonds (January 08, 2010 1:01 am ET)
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            So what is wrong with Beck admitting he was wrong, which MMFA has demonstrated?
            He should. The only concern is that it happened so long ago it wouldn't make any sense to broadcast that now, and while at least someone on his staff checks Media Matters headlines regularly, the "signal to noise" ratio is so low (as I at least tried to demonstrate) they probably don't even know about it (though they probably only check to see if there are any stories they can poke fun at).

            Actually just about all of the issues cited negate or mitigate Beck's central points. For example, Beck uses a number that is almost triple the actual amount in order to argue that the failure of GM is due to the unions. The actual dollar number makes Beck's argument much less clear. And as far as there being "no evidence any of it is an outright made up lie", that is a strawman. MMFA did not make that charge. The only issue is that Beck has said some falsehoods contrary to his claims.
            Perhaps he simply stopped using that number, his point now is that US workers simply cost more than other countries like China or even Mexico, or even just Michigan workers cost more than other parts of the country. Another example was the opening of a car factory, that Joe Biden spoke at, that was not in Michigan. The $154 figure was also among other (presumably correct) facts, like guaranteed retirement with full benefits after 30 years and retirement benefits costing more than steel, iirc.

            You need to watch the argument he was making to see for sure, sometimes it gets posted, sometimes not.

            My fault on the "lie" part, but that charge is levied often enough in the comments if not in the article I make that point by default.
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      • Author by miraclelurker (January 07, 2010 4:52 am ET)
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        Beck falsely claimed Anita Dunn "worships" "her hero" Mao Zedong.

        He never made that extreme of a claim, and in fact played the entire video clip start to end, several minutes of it, including her praise of Mother Teresa.

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        Then he totally twisted and distorted everything she said. Anyone with half a brain and an ounce of integrity understood what she was saying. It was quite beautiful actually. She was espousing freedom of thought and independence. Something that would be a big no no in the Beck/Fox world I'd guess from what Beck had to say about it.

        What's most shocking is that their dishonesty runs so deep they seem incapable of recognizing it. If they did, they would whither up with shame.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 07, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
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        Well... I give you an 'A+' in rationalization.

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        ETHICS... Hmmm... Lemme get back to you on that...
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      • Author by open_mind (January 07, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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        Every single one of your refutations refuse to address MMFA's points. You are just repeating Glenn Beck's falsehoods and claiming they are true. If you want to do a real rebuttal, you need to address all of MMfA's points.
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    • Author by 500943802 (January 07, 2010 4:21 am ET)
         
      If he will not even acknowledge the existence of this delusionary organization why would he call?
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    • Author by gamoss1 (January 07, 2010 7:50 am ET)
         
      Pure evil.
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    • Author by Farzan (January 07, 2010 8:36 am ET)
         
      My guess is the Glenn Phone will be silent with added crickets’ sounds effects that he likes so much. His audience does not care. That is all that matters to his pocket.
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    • Author by today's blessing (January 07, 2010 9:17 am ET)
         
      media matters punk-slapping of beck by calling him the liar of the year and then daring him to respond while listing (with cites) 175 of his most famous lies and then publicly mocking him by giving him a real phone--daring him to call; daring him to debate his lies-- challenging his manhood--showing what a true coward he really is. this my friends is simply amazing.

      meanwhile, back behind the safety of his desk; in front of his cameras, behind his mega-microphone, with the support of 25 staffers, he’s flopping around like a catfish in a drying
      stream-- saying nothing and everything--stammering: what had, had happended was i,i,i, uhhhhhmm, people need to quit picking on people calling them racist and stuff --- withering under the pressure from this media blog.

      2010 is gonna be a good year after all.
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    • Author by Old55 (January 07, 2010 9:39 am ET)
         
      Most people forget that Beck (like Limbaugh, Hannity, et al.) is first and foremost an entertainer, not a journalist. You need only sit through about 5 minutes of Beck's show to realize this guy is not someone to be taken seriously. Calling his phone would be a waste of time.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 07, 2010 10:41 am ET)
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      I hope your calling plan includes rollover minutes. Because I'll bet you're going to have a ton.

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      All of them, in fact.
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    • Author by DUtch (January 07, 2010 12:06 pm ET)
         
      No many how many times you cut an paste that list, there are still only 4-5 of those bullet points that represent factual inaccuracies on the part of Mr. Beck... Who is on the air four hours a day, fifty weeks per year.

      You don't even link to your own blather about how the Bush Admin supposedly used the term "jobs saved or created" because anybody reading the MMFA article with a room temperature IQ can get past the headline and see that it never happened.

      You found ONE economist who wrote that the W and O administrations use many of the same economic formulas.

      "Wolf!" cried the boy.

      I also hope Mr. Beck has a MMFA representative on his show. Given what happened to the spokesperson for ACORN and the AG for Connecticut, I think it will make for excellent television.

      Good luck.

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    • Author by armdal (January 07, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
         
      isn't it possible that the MM Beck phone could be programmed to ring only when the caller is identified as Glenn Beck? I mean not just anybody can call Beck's hotline red phone can they? Or... can they? And if not, why not?

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    • Author by Cheney2012 (January 07, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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      Looks like MMFA will have to add an extra line or 2 to that phone so Jack McCafferty and Paul Begala can call.

      Those Uber-Conservative Hitler-ites seem to be realizing that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes
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    • Author by EZ4you2say (January 07, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
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      Re: Robert Creamer
      MMFA; In fact, Creamer was never accused of stealing any money and the judge in the case reportedly gave Creamer a lighter sentence because no one suffered any "out of pocket losses."

      He was charged with Bank fraud and failure to pay withholding taxes.

      Isn't that stealing?
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    • Author by Quicksilver M.S (January 07, 2010 10:07 pm ET)
         
      is the phone black?
      a good shade for becks soul!
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