Beck: Obama is "colorless ... he might as well be white"
On the February 12 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Glenn Beck  featured Philadelphia-based conservative radio host Dom Giordano , who claimed that "the mainstream media has dubbed [Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)] to be African-American" and said, "If you start to, you know, delve around the edges, say, 'Wait a minute, isn't he mixed race? Weren't we told that last year?' Or whatever, biracial. Not allowed to say that anymore." Beck responded by saying "he's very white in many ways," adding, "Gee, can I even say that? Can I even say that without somebody else starting a campaign saying, 'What does he mean, "He's very white?" ' He is. He's very white."
After the interview, Beck attempted to clarify his comments to executive producer and head writer of The Glenn Beck Program, Steve Burguiere, who is known on-air as "Stu." Beck claimed that Obama "is colorless," adding that "as a white guy ... [y]ou don't notice that he is black. So he might as well be white, you know what I mean?" In addition, Beck said: "I guarantee you, there will be blogs today that will have me being a racist because I say that."
As Media Matters for America has noted , ABC recently hired Beck as a "regular commentator" for Good Morning America, and Beck hosts a talk show on CNN Headline News. Premiere Radio Networks, which syndicates Beck's radio show, says  the program is heard on more than 230 radio stations nationwide. According to Talkers Magazine , the program reaches more than 3 million listeners each week.
From the February 12 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
GIORDANO: Oh, the general ones. You can't bring up -- one guy sent me a very interesting thing about Barack Obama and race. You can't bring up anything other than that suddenly he's African-American. If you start to, you know, delve around the edges, say, "Wait a minute, isn't he mixed race? Weren't we told that last year?" Or whatever, biracial. Not allowed to say that anymore. Apparently, the mainstream media has dubbed him to be African-American.
BECK: Yeah, I -- you know, I was driving in today, and I was seeing -- because I saw this piece with him on 60 Minutes -- and I thought to myself, he is -- he's very white in many ways.
BECK: And I thought to myself: Gee, can I even say that? Can I even say that without somebody else starting a campaign saying, "What does he mean, 'He's very white?' " He is. He's very white.
GIORDANO: Well, the interesting thing is, too, whatever you and I seem to say, we're wrong, the other side --
BECK: I know.
GIORDANO: -- determines it to be the opposite. So if next week we say that, they'll say, "No, it's changed to this."
BECK: Yeah. All right, Dom, thanks a lot, man.
GIORDANO: Hey, thanks, Glenn.
BECK: Appreciate it, bye-bye. Go ahead, Stu. Ask me, ask me.
STU: I mean, I think it's a legitimate question.
BECK: Are you going to start campaigning now?
STU: No, I don't -- I mean --
BECK: He is --
STU: What do you mean?
BECK: He is -- he's very -- he is -- he's colorless. He is colorless.
STU: So he's clear?
BECK: When he says -- yes. When he said, you don't notice his color, as a white guy -- and I don't know if African-Americans feel the same way -- but for whites, I think he's colorless. You don't notice that he is black. So he might as well be white, you know what I mean? You see him -- listen to me, listen to me.
STU: I'm trying.
BECK: You see him colorless --
BECK: -- OK, until he starts talking about race issues and he says things, like on this 60 Minutes piece last night, he said, "When I hail a cab." And I thought, "What?" And then all of a sudden, I noticed his color.
BECK: Only when he said, "You know," he said, "You know, I'm out" -- "You know, in Harlem, they say that you're not really black." And he says, "When I'm out in Harlem and I'm playing basketball, they don't ask me those questions. I don't ever hear those phrases." And I saw him as a black man. But only when he was talking about in that way.
STU: Wait a minute. So what you're saying is, you're colorblind, which, again, that would not -- you're, as a conservative, you're supposed to be racist. See --
BECK: I know.
STU: Just right there, there's a major problem --
BECK: But, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So when I say -- I mean, he's colorless -- or, for whites, he might as well be white, he's white. And yet, I guarantee you, there will be blogs today that will have me being a racist because I say that. However, if somebody in the African-American community say, "He's not black," well, then, they're not racists. I am. But they're not.
STU: I'm confused.
STU: I just -- I don't even understand anymore.
BECK: You can say, you can say, in America, you can say, "He's not black." You're -- and you're just looked at as being stupid. You know what I mean? What? What does that even mean, "He's not black"? You can get away with saying that. But if somebody who is me -- I say, "You don't even notice his color. He might as well be white. He's a white guy." Doesn't matter. "To white people." Doesn't matter. That's racist.