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September 07, 2005 8:40 pm ET

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In the past week, Bush administration officials and conservative commentators have repeatedly used the national media to spread misinformation about the federal government's widely criticized response to the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina.

1. Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"

On the September 1 broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America, President Bush told host Diane Sawyer, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that protected New Orleans from flooding. As Media Matters for America has noted, Sawyer did not challenge Bush's claim, despite numerous, repeated warnings by government officials, experts, and the media that a major hurricane could cause levee breaches resulting in catastrophic flooding. A September 2 New York Times front-page article repeated Bush's false claim without challenge -- even though a Times editorial the same day declared, "Disaster planners were well aware that New Orleans could be flooded by the combined effects of a hurricane and broken levees."

A September 5 CNN.com article reported that Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff falsely told reporters that "planners" did not predict a breach of the levees that would flood the city. As CNN.com reported, Chertoff said, "That 'perfect storm' of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight." But unlike the Times, CNN.com noted that "officials have warned for years that a Category 4 [hurricane] could cause the levees to fail." The CNN.com article added that in an August 31 interview on CNN's Larry King Live, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) director Michael Brown said, "That Category 4 hurricane caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated. So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately this year, we're implementing it." But in the same Larry King Live interview, Brown responded to complaints that rescue efforts were not moving quickly enough by insisting, "And I must say this storm is much, much bigger than anyone expected."

Additionally, as journalist Joshua Micah Marshall noted in his Talking Points Memo weblog, National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield "talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas" on August 28 [St. Petersburg Times, 8/30/05]. The Washington Post quoted Mayfield on September 6: "They knew that this one was different. ... I don't think Mike Brown or anyone else in FEMA could have any reason to have any problem with our calls. ... They were told ... We said the levees could be topped."

2. Chertoff strained credulity in defense of Bush, claimed levee breaks and massive flooding came as a surprise -- more than 12 hours after local media reported them

On September 4, Chertoff appeared on NBC's Meet the Press and attempted to explain Bush's discredited claim that "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." After host Tim Russert asked Chertoff how the president could "be so wrong, be so misinformed," Chertoff suggested that Bush had been referring to newspaper reports the morning after the storm that New Orleans had "dodged a bullet" because the eye of the storm had passed to the east of the city. But more than 12 hours before the appearance of those headlines in print, a post on the weblog of the New Orleans Times-Picayune -- dated August 29, 2 p.m. CT -- reported, "City Hall confirmed a breach of the levee along the 17th Street Canal at Bellaire Drive, allowing water to spill into Lakeview." This initial report on the Times-Picayune weblog was followed throughout the afternoon and evening of August 29 by reports of other levee breaks and massive flooding.

While Chertoff said he recognized that the city's levee system failed sometime Monday night or Tuesday morning -- in fact, the first breaks occurred earlier, as noted above and as Think Progress noted in its detailed Hurricane Katrina timeline -- he insisted that "it was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the gap and that essentially the lake [Pontchartrain] was going to start to drain into the city." According to Chertoff, this "second catastrophe really caught everybody by surprise" and was a major reason for the delay in the government's emergency response.

Questioning Chertoff further, Russert pointed out that the Times-Picayune published a five-part series in June 2002, in which it warned that if a large hurricane hit New Orleans, the city's levees would likely be topped or broken -- resulting in catastrophic flooding and thousands of deaths. Russert added that "last summer FEMA, who reports to you, and the LSU Hurricane Center, and local and state officials did a simulated Hurricane Pam in which the levees broke. ... Thousands drowned."

Chertoff then clarified, "What I said was not that we didn't anticipate that there's a possibility the levees will break. What I said was, in this storm, what happened is, the storm passed and passed without the levees breaking on Monday. Tuesday morning, I opened newspapers and saw headlines that said 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet,' which surprised people. What surprised them was that the levee broke overnight and the next day and, in fact, collapsed. That was a surprise."

Even accepting as true Chertoff's incredible suggestion that he -- the secretary of Homeland Security -- and the president of the United States relied on the print media for their information on the situation in New Orleans, as Think Progress points out, had administration officials "bothered to read the full text of the three articles they found with favorable headlines, they would have realized that federal government help was needed immediately." Moreover, while Chertoff did not indicate which headlines he was referring to, many newspapers -- in addition to the Times-Picayune -- did report on broken levees and significant flooding. For example, on August 30, the Los Angeles Times reported that a levee break had occurred by late morning August 29, with water from the break "spill[ing] through the area, flooding the town's two main shelters and swamping the local National Guard armory, leaving even public safety officials homeless."

Or Chertoff could have turned on the television. On the August 30 broadcast of NBC's Today, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams reported at 7:05 a.m. ET, "There has been a huge development overnight ... the historic French Quarter, dry last night and it is now filling with water. This is water from nearby Lake Pontchartrain; the levees failed overnight."

Indeed, Chertoff's and Bush's professed ignorance notwithstanding, the federal government was well aware of the continuing threat of the levees breaking. Just hours after the storm passed on Monday, August 29, FEMA director Brown confirmed that the potential for catastrophic flooding remained. In an interview with Brown, NBC Today co-host Matt Lauer noted, "In New Orleans, in particular, they're worried about the levees giving way or the canals not holding, and they're worried about toxic runoff." Brown responded that even though the storm had weakened, there was still a 15- to 20-foot storm surge causing "the water out of Lake Pontchartrain and the Gulf and the Mississippi continue to converge upon Louisiana." Brown added, "So we're still ready for a major disaster."

3. Brown: "We've provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they've gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day"

On the September 2 broadcast of NBC's Today, FEMA director Brown told host Katie Couric, "We've provided food to the people at the [New Orleans' Morial] Convention Center so that they've gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day." Couric did not challenge this statement.

But on September 1, NBC News photojournalist Tony Zumbado reported on MSNBC Live:

ZUMBADO: I can't put it into words the amount of destruction that is in this city and how these people are coping. They are just left behind. There is nothing offered to them. No water, no ice, no C-rations, nothing, for the last four days. They were told to go to the convention center. They did, they've been behaving. It's unbelievable how organized they are, how supportive they are of each other. They have not started any melees, any riots. They just want food and support. And what I saw there I've never seen in this country. We need to really look at this situation at the convention center. It's getting very, very crazy in there and very dangerous. Somebody needs to come down with a lot of food and a lot of water.

4. Chertoff: "Apparently, some time on Wednesday, people started to go to the convention center spontaneously"

On the September 1 edition of CNN's Paula Zahn Now, Brown claimed, "Every person in that convention center, we just learned about that today [Thursday, September 1]." During a September 4 interview with Chertoff on CNN Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, host Blitzer replayed Brown's comments. In response, Chertoff said:

CHERTOFF: Well, I mean, this is clearly something that was disturbing. It was disturbing to me when I learned about it, which came as a surprise. You know, the very day that this emerged in the press, I was on a video conference with all the officials, including state and local officials. And nobody -- none of the state and local officials or anybody else -- was talking about a convention center. The original plan, as I understand it, was to have the Superdome be the place of refuge, of last resort. Apparently, some time on Wednesday, people started to go to the convention center spontaneously.

Chertoff's claim that hurricane survivors sought refuge in the convention center under their own initiative echoed his September 4 Meet the Press interview, in which he suggested, "We became aware of the fact at some point that people began to go to the convention center on their own, spontaneously, in order to shelter there." Chertoff's statements were false, but neither Blitzer nor Russert challenged them.

Though scenes of thousands of hurricane victims awaiting water, food, and buses at the convention center were not broadcast on television until Thursday, September 1, Chertoff and Brown would have had access to media reports about the convention center before then. As early as August 29, Times-Picayune staff writer Bruce Nolan wrote an article for the Newhouse News Service in which he reported, "City officials said they might open the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center as a temporary refuge to shelter an estimated 50,000 people made homeless by the storm." Nolan's article appeared in the Times-Picayune on August 30.

Beginning August 31, other reports of survivors at the convention center emerged:

  • Knight Ridder, August 31: "Derwin DeGruy had been kicked out of two hotels, the first on Sunday right before the storm hit, and the second one on Tuesday morning after it hit. He and about 50 other people found makeshift shelter on a ramp leading to the mall and parking garage at the New Orleans Convention Center. They rigged places for people to go to the bathroom, pooled their water for the babies, placed some blankets on the concrete and decided to wait and see what happened."
  • Associated Press, August 31: "The 37-year-old banker -- who admitted to looting some food from a nearby supermarket -- said the hotel guests were told they were being taken to a convention center, but from there, they didn't know."
  • Associated Press, August 31: "After several hours, a small fleet of rented moving trucks showed up to take the people to the downtown convention center so they could be taken out of the city. Police herded people up metal ramps like cattle into the unrefrigerated boxes."

By September 1, when Brown claimed FEMA first learned about the situation at the convention center, TV networks were broadcasting footage of thousands of survivors waiting for water, food, and evacuation buses. Despite Chertoff's later insistence that New Orleans residents "spontaneously" converged on the convention center, the September 1 broadcast of ABC's Nightline included footage of a law enforcement official instructing survivors to go there:

SURVIVOR: Ain't nobody helping us.

LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL: I understand.

SURVIVOR: No, ain't nobody doing anything for us.

LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL: Y'all got to go to the convention center.

5. Chertoff pointed fingers: "New Orleans officials and the state officials ... called for the Superdome to be the refuge of last resort"

In his September 4 interview on NBC's Meet the Press, Chertoff attempted to place blame for the conditions at the Superdome solely with state and local officials. Chertoff asserted, "My understanding is, and again this is something that's going to go back -- we're going to go back over after the fact -- is the plan that the New Orleans officials and the state officials put together called for the Superdome to be the refuge of last resort."

But this claim is misleading at best. As The Washington Post reported on September 3, a FEMA official acknowledged participating in meetings in which the plan to use the Superdome as a shelter for thousands of evacuees was discussed:

Brown, the agency's director, told reporters Saturday in Louisiana that he did not have a sense of what was coming last weekend.

"I was here on Saturday and Sunday, it was my belief, I'm trying to think of a better word than typical -- that minimizes, any hurricane is bad -- but we had the standard hurricane coming in here, that we could move in immediately on Monday and start doing our kind of response-recovery effort," he said. "Then the levees broke, and the levees went, you've seen it by the television coverage. That hampered our ability, made it even more complex."

But other officials said they warned well before Monday about what could happen. For years, said another senior FEMA official, he had sat at meetings where plans were discussed to send evacuees to the Superdome. "We used to stare at each other and say, 'This is the plan? Are you really using the Superdome?' People used to say, what if there is water around it? They didn't have an alternative," he recalled.

Moreover, the plan to use the Superdome as a shelter for evacuees was widely known. The 2002 Times-Picayune series on the potential for a catastrophic hurricane reported that of the estimated 200,000 New Orleans residents who would likely remain in the city, "[s]ome will be housed at the Superdome, the designated shelter in New Orleans for people too sick or infirm to leave the city."

6. Chertoff falsely minimized federal government's role in Katrina response as subordinate to states

The Bush administration has responded to criticism of its role in the Katrina disaster by attempting to deflect blame onto state and local officials in Louisiana [The New York Times, 9/5/05]. One way they are doing that is to claim that the federal government's role in a natural disaster of this magnitude is to provide support to state and local governments and work at their behest. Conservative media figures immediately fell into line, echoing the administration's claim that the federal government's role was subordinate (see here and here). In fact, the Department of Homeland Security's December 2004 National Response Plan clearly indicates that in these situations, the federal government will pre-empt state and local efforts and provide immediate assistance to the affected area.

On September 1, two days after the levees were breached, Chertoff, at a press conference announcing the start of "National Preparedness Month 2005," characterized the federal role in response to Katrina as that of providing support to state and local officials: "The Department of Homeland Security will continue to work with federal, state and local partners to support efforts on the ground in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and Florida. We are working tirelessly to make sure that federal resources are being applied where they are needed all across the Gulf" [Federal News Service, 9/1/05]. But on September 2, Chertoff told reporters that the situation had changed and that federal agencies would now take over the primary role: "The fact of the matter is, this set of catastrophes has broken any mold for how you deal with this kind of weather devastation, and so we're going to break the mold in terms of how we respond. The federal government is not going to play merely its customary role in giving all necessary support to first responders. The federal government is going to step up and take a primary role, working with state and locals to deal with the outcome of this tragedy." [National Public Radio, 9/3/05]

But Chertoff's September 1 statement ignored the administration's own homeland security response plan, which directed the federal government to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct emergency operations following a major catastrophe, pre-empting state and local authorities if necessary. According to DHS' December 2004 National Response Plan (NRP), "catastrophic events," such as what occurred in New Orleans, call for heightened and "proactive" federal involvement to manage the disaster. The response plan listed "guiding principles" to govern the response to these major events. The "Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response" make clear that, in these "catastrophic" cases, the federal government will operate independently to provide assistance, rather than simply supporting or cajoling state authorities:

  • The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national security.
  • Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude.
  • Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
  • Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
  • State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative planning with the Federal Government as a part of "steady-state" preparedness for catastrophic incidents."

The NRP also says that, when responding to a catastrophic incident, the federal government should start emergency operations even in the absence of clear assessment of the situation. "A detailed and credible common operating picture may not be achievable for 24 to 48 hours (or longer) after the incident," the NRP's "Catastrophic Annex" states. "As a result, response activities must begin without the benefit of a detailed or complete situation and critical needs assessment."

A September 5 Los Angeles Times article quoted former FEMA chief of staff Jane Bullock saying that "[t]he moment the president declared a federal disaster [on Aug 29], it became a federal responsibility. ... The federal government took ownership over the response." Moreover, DHS' own website declares that DHS "will assume primary responsibility on March 1st [2005] for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort."

7. Wash. Post, Newsweek, Gingrich falsely claimed that Blanco did not declare a state of emergency

In recent days, two news articles falsely reported that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco had failed to declare a state of emergency, which had supposedly hampered the federal response. An article in the September 13 edition of Newsweek claimed that "Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco seemed uncertain and sluggish, hesitant to declare martial law or a state of emergency, which would have opened the door to more Pentagon help." Likewise, a September 4 Washington Post article incorrectly claimed that "As of Saturday [Sept. 3], Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency," citing an anonymous senior Bush administration official. (The Washington Post's article was later corrected, although Newsweek has yet to correct its article.) Fox News political analyst Newt Gingrich repeated the point on the September 5 O'Reilly Factor, saying, "As you [O'Reilly] point out, the governor [Blanco] failed to call the emergency. And initially, it was the governor who had to call an emergency." In fact, as the Post later noted, Blanco declared a state of emergency on August 26.

8. Gingrich falsely claimed that Nagin could "have kept water pumped out" of city had he ensured that pumps worked

On the September 5 O'Reilly Factor, Gingrich also claimed that if New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin had been able to keep the New Orleans pumps working, the flood waters could have been pumped out of the city. "[F]irst of all, the mayor of New Orleans had a real obligation to make sure the four pumps could work. Three of them didn't. It would have kept water pumped out." In fact, New Orleans has 22 "notoriously fickle" pumping stations, according to an August 31 New York Times article. The Times also reported that, according to Dr. Shea Penland, a coastal geologist, "When the pumping systems are in good shape, it can rain an inch an hour for about four to six hours and the pumps can keep pace. More than that, the city floods." The Times also noted that "[e]fforts to add backup power generators to keep [the pumps] all running during blackouts have been delayed by a lack of federal money." A June 2002 Times-Picayune article, part of a series exploring the probable consequences of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans, indicated that New Orleans' pumps would have been overwhelmed by the rapidly rising floodwaters:

Soon waves will start breaking over the levee.

"All of a sudden you'll start seeing flowing water. It'll look like a weir, water just pouring over the top," [Louisiana State University engineer Joseph] Suhayda said. The water will flood the lakefront, filling up low-lying areas first, and continue its march south toward the river. There would be no stopping or slowing it; pumping systems would be overwhelmed and submerged in a matter of hours.

"Another scenario is that some part of the levee would fail," Suhayda said. "It's not something that's expected. But erosion occurs, and as levees broke, the break will get wider and wider. The water will flow through the city and stop only when it reaches the next higher thing. The most continuous barrier is the south levee, along the river. That's 25 feet high, so you'll see the water pile up on the river levee."

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    • Author by laura (September 07, 2005 9:02 pm ET)
         

      I commend MMFA for this concise, substantive piece. It's impossible to keep up with each individual echo. This is an uncanny moment in history, marking the success of the "Kool Aide", the combo of the political neocons and their big business partners to massively distort the news. Katrina is the litmus test of the abuse of power, and sadly it's turning out to be her equal.

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      • Author by blueblood (September 08, 2005 3:51 pm ET)
           

        I second Laura's statement. I am going to refer to this page for the foreseeable future so I can counter the inevitable further conservative spin to deflect blame from the federal government.

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    • Author by draftedin68 (September 07, 2005 10:19 pm ET)
         

      Hmmm... guess this will help Duhhbya avoid all those messy problems with the press: [link to www.talkingpointsmemo.com]

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    • Author by dbltrbl (September 07, 2005 11:27 pm ET)
         

      From the alphabet-soup soundbites heard tonight; the corporate media (I no longer will identify them as "mainstream" for obvious reasons) appear to be chasing their tails and lashing out at any clear-thinking human being to whom the truth is crystal clear; that this gang of thugs even left a paper trail of their collective crimes re: the abandonement of the Gulf coast. I love the smell of a melt down even this late in the day.

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    • Author by louisianaman (September 08, 2005 12:05 am ET)
         

      As someone that lives in the affected area I feel like I must speak out on the subject of Katrina. I love reading MMFA to get another perspective on the issue of the day. But I also feel like we are preaching to the Choir here. But my point here is that the Bush spin is in overdrive here in Louisiana. In the first days after Katrina hit and we had no response from anyone. Everyone was asking where is the help and everyone was mad at Bush and his administration. Then as time went on all the fox news watchers started turning their anger away from Bush to Blanco and Nagin. And now everyone I know blames Blanco and Nagan for everything and if anyone says anything against Bush you will get verbally attacked. Now we get e-mails everyday from friends with "THE FACTS" that are all very pro Bush and anti Blanco, Nagan. It has been amazing the transformation. I even saw a hand painted sign in a yard saying "RECALL BLANCO". I feel the need to say much more but Keith Oberman is coming on an I must go watch it.

      Help me I am living in a state full of idiots

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      • Author by fantagor (September 08, 2005 12:25 am ET)
           

        The Bush administration treats the media like a souffle.

        As long as the ingredients of a story are to their liking, they let it finish cooking.

        If it's someone elses unpleasant ingredients, such as the truth, they kick the oven till the souffle falls and remake it with their own special brand of frothy, whipped bull.

        I'm not sure what smells fouler. The wind blowing off the remnants of the Big Easy or the clouds of black smoke pouring from the White House ovens.

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      • Author by Sagra (September 08, 2005 9:40 am ET)
           

        Sounds like a great victory for the Turdblossom:

        - A Republican wins the LA governor's mansion next election.

        - Many Democratic voters dead.

        - Many other Democratic voters displaced.

        - Louisiana's second congressional district goes Red.

        - Strict bankruptcy laws insure that displaced city dwellers will have no protection against forclosure of their ruined homes, leading to...

        - Development of a new city devoid of affordable housing.

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        • Author by MickD (September 08, 2005 10:21 am ET)
             

          An absolute spot one prediction for NOLA's future. I figure the developers are dividing up the city as they pump.

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          • Author by Timmee (September 08, 2005 10:31 am ET)
               

            After running an article yesterday to make sure the Horowitz cult knew that the loss of wetlands made no difference in the hurricane, they have followed up with the revelation that the flooding is actually the fault of environmentalist...

            [link to www.frontpagemag.com]

            If you are ever wondering how the Republicans are going to spin the most impossible things for their benefit...FPM is a good place to start.

            You can also check Horowitz's Liberal Network and see how closely tied to Osama you are.

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            • Author by Sagra (September 08, 2005 11:27 am ET)
                 

              Last time I looked at Horowitz's site I felt unclean for days.

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            • Author by ash (September 08, 2005 5:09 pm ET)
                 

              Yuck. And how sad to see Hitchens reduced to peddling his Iraqi War defense in conservative publications.

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              • Author by dbarber (September 08, 2005 6:48 pm ET)
                   

                He's kind of soiled the water for himself anywhere else, hasn't he? I'm not sure what comes off as more distasteful, his betrayal (and possible slander) of Sidney Blumenthal or his picking on Edward Said when the man was on his deathbed...

                I hope he never identifies himself with the Left again.

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    • Author by ufleirx (September 08, 2005 12:13 am ET)
         

      Let's be fair to the MSM they have done their job over the last week. And you have to expect the Repub.s to spin when they are on air -- it's the only thing they can do since they can't govern efficently or within the bounds of legality or decency. Look even Andrew Sullivan is wigging out, the media -- by and large -- are doing their job. This is just a break while the real horror begins to be realized, the body count. Someone told me that the volunteers on mortuary duty are saying they are expecting up to 40K. 9-11 was a tragedy but this event is going to make it look small. This is the defining moment of this administration and it is one of massive failure. Politically, I could care less who goes down as long as those responsible are held accountable. So, some Democrats will go too, as long as George the second and his ilk are with them I am okay with that. But this event will hopefully bring a more progressive government in to power that will realize the job of the government is to secure the general welfare, not prey upon its base fears. George wants to be a problem solver, a unitier, let's have a real investagation and let him pack his bags. The small politicians will have their careers ended because of their failure or the Bush spin -- they are done. He is the only one likely to walk and if they let him the Repub.s should pay at the ballot box in midterms. Every Democrats cry should be "They said only they could offer security. Unless you're rich and already have your own (see the bin Laden family during 9-11), don't expect to be saved by them."

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      • Author by fantagor (September 08, 2005 12:37 am ET)
           

        And John Kerry would've been two boats down from Sean Penn saving people from the flood waters? No, I’m not that naive. But I do know one thing: the results couldn’t’ve been worse under President Kerry, and oh! the Republican outrage would have been deafening. But when their golden boy effs up big time, total stone silence, except for blaming the victims for being too poor to afford a car, or a summer home in the Hamptons as a “refuge”.

        Is there anyone who voted for Bush feeling buyer’s remorse? Well, good. And throw yourselves on your swords. It’ll be the best decision you’ve made in the last 11 months.

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        • Author by laura (September 08, 2005 3:00 pm ET)
             

          I do not know any argument to counter this: Kerry would have been treated the same or worse than Clinton by the Big Media.

          Recall how Big Media went absolutely nuts, 24/7 for months if not years on sex stories, empty stories, whitewater / Foster / Ken Starr, etc.

          Remember the drumbeat regarding impeachment! The very same press is NOT exactly saying very much about impeaching the current president over lies to justify war.

          Not the NY Times, not CBS, none of the Big Media are beating the drum as they mindnumbingly did over Monica. The NY Times is no different than Fox or Clear Channel on this marker.

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        • Author by rrastro (September 08, 2005 7:49 pm ET)
             

          no sword swallowing here. every govt agency at every level screwed up. the only way this could have been worse was if theye were on an island of sand that had its highest point below the storm surge and the only bridge to high ground cust and then govt ineptitude.

          Why did the local police and guard not provide transpoert to high ground?

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          • Author by frijolesnegra (September 08, 2005 8:18 pm ET)
               

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            The New Orleans area by swamps (Atchafalya, etc...)!

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          • Author by monkey (September 08, 2005 11:13 pm ET)
               

            Why did the local police and guard not provide transport to high ground?

            by rrastro - Thursday September 8, 2005 07:49:39 PM EST

            They tried the evacuation thingy when Hurricane Georges hit, and many people ended up stuck on the roads. There is not enough time to evacuate everyone with the roads they have there. And because there are lower-lying parishes further out on the delta, they have to be allowed to evacuate first. That's why they did not call for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans right away. They waited for the people from Plaquemines Parish and other parishes to get to the highways and past New Orleans before they called for people to leave New Orleans.

            That's why the Feds needed to step in and do something. Either fly people out in planes to other cities, or fly them out to close-by cities, beyond the gridlock near New Orleans, past the close-in swamps and Lake Pontchatrain, so they could get on evacuation buses driven by drivers recruited from outside.

            You cannot expect school bus drivers to make the choice to evacuate other citizens of New Orleans instead of evacuating their own families. Part of their job description is not driving and managing an evacuation of adults and kids and pets and luggage before a hurricane.

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    • Author by Sagra (September 08, 2005 9:48 am ET)
         

      There was only one course of action Gov Blanco could have taken in order to save the citizens of her state. When it became apparent that the storm would be catastropic, she should have immediately married Neil Bush. Upon becoming a member of the Bush family, her state would have been eligible for immediate and effective federal relief.

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    • Author by lumination (September 08, 2005 2:43 pm ET)
         

      But rather to look at it objectively with hope of a thorough and substantive investigation and to avoid future failures, you choose to use it to score your silly political points.

      by tommy

      That last statement applies to yourself, read my post and respond to the points made. Blathering on how this is not political is pure self delusion on your part.

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      • Author by tommy (September 08, 2005 2:49 pm ET)
           

        lumination, Once again you fail to grasp the point being made.....I wasn't saying this was not being politicized, I was saying it should not be. Read any of my posts and see if I was trying to make political hay out of this, one way or another. I was not.

        I have said that the failures lie with local, state and federal officials in this disaster. To try and make this a liberal vs. conservative or Dem vs Rep issue is doing a disservice to all those that suffer, and not addressing the solutions necessary.

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        • Author by monkey (September 08, 2005 3:04 pm ET)
             

          The Bush administration did politicize this.

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        • Author by Sagra (September 08, 2005 3:21 pm ET)
             

          The everybody-has-to-share-the-blame game is just a variant of the basic blame game.

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        • Author by losingfaith (September 08, 2005 6:20 pm ET)
             

          Wow, I thought that was very well reasoned and fair. Apparently the others responding to your comment don't feel the same. This SHOULDN'T be about liberal vs. conservative. All people responsible should be held reponsible in proper degrees. I happen to believe the fed holds a large majority of the responsibility for the poor response. I think the state and local government could have done more too. Probably not much more. Clearly though, this really has nothing to do with lib vs. con, dem vs. rep. I think both "sides" seem to have done their fair share to make this a left vs. right thing.

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          • Author by tommy (September 08, 2005 6:39 pm ET)
               

            Frankly, the reason the partisans have lined up here blaming one or the other is far too obvious. The left blames mostly the Feds (controlled by Republicans) and says little blame should go to the local and state govt's. (both Democrats in Louisiana).

            Whereas, the right blames mostly the state and local officials and lets the Feds off the hook.

            As usual, the actual truth lies most likely in between.

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            • Author by JuiceD (September 08, 2005 7:22 pm ET)
                 

              "As usual, the actual truth lies most likely in between." (tommy)

              Tommy, I have to agree with you. While I don't believe Bush has done a great job as President or in this current situation, I think it's preposterous to lay the blame totally on him and the Federal government. Local and State officials also get just barely a passing grade for their part in handling this disaster. I think both sides have politicized this, which is really a shame, they should both admit there were plenty of mistakes to go around, and use this experience to learn how to better respond to the next crisis, instead of wasting time pointing fingers at one another.

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            • Author by frijolesnegra (September 08, 2005 9:08 pm ET)
                 

              -Save Cost and Lives by prevention!

              The Bush administration did not follow the recommendation of the Army Corp of Engineers. Levees broke, pumps failed and New Orleans flooded!

              The levee funding represented less than 0.1% of the damage and potential liability (150 Billion + ) of a flooded New Orleans. Bush controlled funding is the key to this disaster, so he is accountable.

              No Levee break, no cascade, no problem!

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      • Author by monkey (September 08, 2005 2:58 pm ET)
           

        There were numerous stories in the media the end of last week and over the weekend that described the specific ways that Rove was reconfiguring the Bush/Republican message to make him look better. Part of that plan was to make the local officials, all Democrats, look worse, so they looked better in comparison.

        Pointing out clear errors and shortcomings is not necessarily partisan if the error exist and the shortcomings hurt people. But sending out propaganda to protect "your side" is definitely partisan. Ignoring those clear errors and shortcomings because "your side" made those errors is partisan.

        The partisan political behavior is clearly happening from the righties in this instance. The administration and the conservatives have been spreading falsehoods, as Media Matters has said. You could not show a similar tally of falsehoods from the lefties about this event.

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    • Author by monkey (September 08, 2005 3:37 pm ET)
         

      A day after Republican congressional leaders announced a joint House-Senate inquiry into government failures regarding the hurricane, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada took issue with the approach and said he still wanted an investigation by an independent commission like the one that looked into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

      Reid said Democrats would not participate in the joint committee, which they said was set up to protect the administration.

      "These are serious concerns about the Republican approach," Reid said in remarks prepared for delivery on the Senate floor. "Americans deserve answers independent of politics. That's why Democrats and Republicans preferred an independent commission for investigating 9/11 and we should be following that model now."

      House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California also questioned the congressional committee, saying, "Despite all the talk of bipartisanship, they have just on their own, unilaterally, put forth a proposal that will result in a whitewash of what is going on there."

      Another example of the righties politicizing this for partisan efforts.

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    • Author by spencer (September 08, 2005 6:35 pm ET)
         

      Please. Let's get back to the point here. FEMA has complete responsiblity for disaster relief for every state in US. And they're still spending money on ridiculous things like bringing in firefighters to act like PR guys for Bush instead of, oh, I dont know, fighting fires.

      Read the Salt Lake Tribune article here (Sept. 6): [link to www.sltrib.com]

      and send it everywhere...

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      • Author by rrastro (September 08, 2005 7:52 pm ET)
           

        fema is there to assist when local resources are not enough

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        • Author by frijolesnegra (September 08, 2005 9:16 pm ET)
             

          -

          Fund the levee projects and FEMA is not needed!

          No Levee break, no cascade, no problem!

          It is like changing the timing belt in your auto, pay a little, or purchasing a new engine for a lot!

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        • Author by panzermensch (September 09, 2005 12:17 pm ET)
             

          From the FEMA website...

          In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America's families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.

          [link to www.dhs.gov]

          They will assume primary responsibility. Its all theirs to botch.

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          • Author by Sagra (September 09, 2005 12:47 pm ET)
               

            "This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort."

            In Reicht Wing World, this means redefining the meaning of the words coordinated, comprehensive, swift and effective. First priority, hire linguists!

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    • Author by dbarber (September 08, 2005 7:02 pm ET)
         

      The mayor is to blame for not using the greatest resource NO has to offer: the people.

      If he'd just lined up a group of plucky young Dutch boys around all the levees, they could have sealed any leaks with their fingers until the Army Corps Of Engineers had time to process the work order and sent someone out to survey the structure. Then, once the rains and the wind died down, they could've sent someone to fix it.

      So first we can blame the mayor, then the city (for being French, not Dutch) then bureaucracy in general, then we can have an expose about some of the relief organizations involved, (the private ones, not the federal ones) THEN blame the governor, then finally we can get around to assessing the responsibility of the Fed- Oh wait, is it 2008 already? I hardly think it's appropriate to hold such hearings in an election year...it would disturb the dignity of the electoral process, and anyway, we don't want these hearings to become politicized. But by 2009, we'll be ready for a full review!!

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    • Author by monkey (September 09, 2005 5:02 pm ET)
         

      Katrina trapped city in double disasters [link to www.nola.com]

      By John McQuaid Staff writer

      Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans with a double blow when it made landfall Aug. 29. First, storm surge waters from the east rapidly swamped St. Bernard Parish and eastern New Orleans before the eye of the storm had passed the city around 9 a.m. Within hours, surge waters collapsed city canal floodwalls and began to “fill the bowl,” while top officials continued to operate for a full day under the mistaken belief that the danger had passed.

      A rough reconstruction of the flooding based on anecdotal accounts, interviews, and computer modeling, shows that the huge scale of the overlapping floods – one fast, one slow – should have been clear to some officials by mid-afternoon Monday, when city representatives confirmed that the 17th Street canal floodwall had been breached.

      At that point areas to the east were submerged from the earlier flooding, trapping thousands, while gradually rising waters stretched from the Lakefront across to Mid City and almost to the Central Business District.

      Federal officials have referred to the levee breaches as a separate and much later event from the flooding to the east, and said that they were unaware of the gravity of the problem until Tuesday, suggesting valuable response time was lost.

      “It was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the (17th Street canal) gap and that essentially the lake was going to start to drain into the city. I think that second catastrophe really caught everybody by surprise,” Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Sunday, adding that he believed the breach had occurred Monday night or Tuesday morning. By that time, flooding from at least one of the two breached canals already had been under way all day Monday, evidence shows.

      Even on Tuesday, as still-rising waters covered most of New Orleans, FEMA official Bill Lokey sounded a reassuring note in a Baton Rouge briefing.

      “I don't want to alarm everybody that, you know, New Orleans is filling up like a bowl,” Lokey said. “That's just not happening.”

      .......

      The storm approached the coast early Monday, the easterly winds from its northern quadrant pumping a rising surge into the marshy Lake Borgne area east of St. Bernard. There, two hurricane levees come together into a large V-shape. Storm surge researchers say that point acts as a giant funnel: Water pouring into the confined area rises up — perhaps as much as 20 feet in this case — and is funneled between the levees all the way into New Orleans.

      The water likely topped the levees along the north side adjacent to eastern New Orleans, which average only 14 or 15 feet, according to the Army Corps of Engineers’ New Orleans project manager Al Naomi.

      The surge reached the Industrial Canal before dawn and quickly overflowed on both sides, the canal lockmaster reported to the Corps. At some point not long afterward, Corps officials believe a barge broke loose and crashed through the floodwall, opening a breach that accelerated flooding into the Lower Ninth Ward and St. Bernard Parish.

      ....

      Sometime Monday morning, the 17th Street canal levee burst when storm surge waters pressed against it and possibly topped it, Corps officials said. Col. Richard P. Wagenaar, the corps’s site commander at 17th Street, told The Washington Post that a police officer called him Monday morning to tell him about it. He told the Post he couldn’t get to the site.

      Naomi said he believes the breach occurred in the mid- or late-morning after the hurricane’s eye had passed east of the city. By that time, north winds would have pushed storm surge water in Lake Pontchartrain south against the hurricane levees and into the canals. Then the wind shifted to the west.

      “As I remember it the worst of the storm had passed when we got word the floodwall had collapsed,” he said. “It could have been when we were experiencing westerly winds in the aftermath of the storm, which would have been pushing water against it.”

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