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Schieffer on Bush administration's prewar claims: "I still give them the benefit of the doubt"

December 02, 2005 7:35 pm ET

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In an interview on the December 1 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning, CBS Evening News anchor and Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer noted that while the reason given by the Bush administration for invading Iraq "proved to be wrong," he still gives the administration "the benefit of the doubt," adding, "I don't think they deliberately misled people."

From the December 1 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning:

SCHIEFFER: But when you come right down to it, and, I mean, I always have to tell you where I'm coming from. I mean, in the very beginning, when they told me that Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapon or was building one, I thought we had to go in and take it away from him. I thought there was no other choice for the president to make. But it turns out that was not correct. Whether -- I still give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think they deliberately misled people. But the fact is, the reason they gave for going in proved to be wrong.

Though Schieffer appears to have made up his mind about the issue, there is mounting evidence that the Bush administration did, in fact, mislead the country by withholding and distorting prewar intelligence, as Media Matters for America has noted.

Schieffer himself has introduced recent CBS Evening News reports that addressed some of this evidence. In a November 18 CBS Evening News segment introduced by Schieffer, CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reported on a Pentagon investigation into whether former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith "provided distorted intelligence":

SCHIEFFER: And now, as I understand it, Bob, there's another set of troubles emerging out at the Pentagon, some sort of a new investigation.

ORR: This again involves the intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. The inspector general from the Department of Defense apparently is looking into the activities of a former undersecretary, Doug Feith. Specifically, he has questions as to whether or not Mr. Feith provided distorted intelligence and, on one point, questions whether or not Mr. Feith provided intelligence to the White House that never was run by the CIA.

Introducing a November 11 report by CBS News national security correspondent David Martin, Schieffer noted, "One specific claim that President Bush and other officials made in the run-up to the war was that Saddam Hussein had links to Al Qaeda." Martin reported that Bush's claim that Iraq had "provided Al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training" was based on information that intelligence officials warned was unreliable and that in making the case for a connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq, "top administration officials seem[ed] to go beyond what the CIA was telling them":

SCHIEFFER: One specific claim that President Bush and other officials made in the run-up to the war was that Saddam Hussein had links to Al Qaeda. Tonight, David Martin has gotten some significant information about that claim and how it came about.

BUSH: Iraq has also provided Al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training.

MARTIN: That warning repeated many times by the president and his top aides was based on a claim made by a captured Al Qaeda operative who has since admitted he was lying. But even at the time he made it, the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency sent out a notice cautioning, "It is more likely this individual is intentionally misleading the debriefers." The CIA noted he "was not in a position to know if any training had actually taken place." Yet administration officials continued to report it as fact.

COLIN POWELL [then-secretary of state, February 5, 2003, video clip]: I can trace the story of a senior terrorist operative telling how Iraq provided training in these weapons to Al Qaeda.

MARTIN: That speech had been checked for accuracy by the CIA, whose then-director George Tenet sat behind Powell as he delivered it. Powell's former chief of staff blames incompetence for not weeding out that spurious claim. On top of what appears to be sloppy work by intelligence experts, there are other instances in which top administration officials seem to go beyond what the CIA was telling them.

BUSH [September 25, 2002, video clip]: You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror.

MARTIN: But the CIA did distinguish between them. Saddam and bin Laden "were leery of close cooperation." The relationship "appears to more closely resemble that of two independent actors trying to exploit each other." The CIA warned its intelligence was "at times contradictory and derived from sources with varying degrees of reliability." The relationship was, to use the CIA's word, "murky," but the president painted it in black and white.

BUSH [October 7, 2002, video clip]: We know that Iraq and Al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade.

MARTIN: The Senate Intelligence Committee concluded there was little useful intelligence collected that helped determine Iraq's possible links to Al Qaeda, but you would never know that from listening to the president and his aides.

Schieffer has a history of accepting false or misleading Republican claims about prewar intelligence. On the November 6 broadcast of Face the Nation, Schieffer interviewed Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS). As Media Matters has noted, during a discussion on the program of Senate Democrats' demand for an investigation into how policymakers used intelligence in the buildup to war, Roberts claimed that for the "Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq," which the committee released in 2004, "we interviewed over 250 analysts, and we specifically asked them, 'Was there any political manipulation or pressure?' Answer, 'No.' " Roberts then claimed that the March report of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction (i.e. the Robb-Silberman Commission) and the Butler report on British intelligence came to the "same conclusion." Whether Roberts was referring to the Bush administration's "manipulation" in the use of intelligence, as The New York Times interpreted his statement, or as part of the alleged "pressure" on analysts is unclear. If Roberts meant the former, his assertion is simply false -- none of the investigations addressed the issue of the administration's use or misuse of intelligence. If instead Roberts meant "manipulation" as interchangeable with "pressure" on analysts, his assertion was irrelevant to the issue on which Senate Democrats have demanded an investigation and was, therefore, highly misleading. At no point did Schieffer note that Roberts was either misrepresenting or simply avoiding the issue in question.

On the same broadcast, Schieffer failed to correct Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), who falsely claimed that the Senate Intelligence Committee's report "showed that there was no politics being played with this matter." Hatch added, "[T]here was no indication whatsoever in that 500-page report, unanimously approved, that there was any notice or knowledge that was improper."

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    • Author by MickD (December 02, 2005 8:38 pm ET)
         

      Bob Schieffer, the anti Ed Murrow. How's the golf game with BushieCo going, Bobby?

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      • Author by left045 (December 02, 2005 10:35 pm ET)
           

        Bob Schieffer says he doesn't think the Bush administration "deliberately misled people," and Media Matters puts this in bold as an example of some kind of "conservative misinformation"?

        Puh-leeze. To paint Schieffer, Bob Schieffer (!), as some kind of Bush supporter strains credulity.

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        • Author by Brabantio (December 02, 2005 10:38 pm ET)
             

          "To paint Schieffer, Bob Schieffer (!), as some kind of Bush supporter strains credulity."

          Why is this so incredible? He's a friend of Bush!

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          • Author by wolf kotenberg (December 03, 2005 1:26 pm ET)
               

            Was he a friend of Bush before 2000 ?????

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            • Author by wanderwoman (December 03, 2005 1:32 pm ET)
                 

              Was he a friend of Bush before 2000 ?????

              by wolf kotenberg - Saturday December 3, 2005 01:26:10 PM EST

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              Yes. In fact, his brother was Bush's partner in ownership of the Rangers.

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              • Author by Dem02020 (December 03, 2005 1:54 pm ET)
                   

                Am I getting that right, that this thread is indicating that CBS news anchor (and former moderator to one of the presidential debates) Bob Schieffer, that a member of his immediate family is a former business partner of George Bush's?

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                • Author by wanderwoman (December 03, 2005 1:57 pm ET)
                     

                  Am I getting that right, that this thread is indicating that CBS news anchor (and former moderator to one of the presidential debates) Bob Schieffer, that a member of his immediate family is a former business partner of George Bush's?

                  by Dem02020 - Saturday December 3, 2005 01:54:02 PM EST

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                  Absolutely. His brother was later appointed by Bush to an ambassadorship. I recommend going to the Daily Howler [link to www.dailyhowler.com] and entering his name into the search engine.

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                  • Author by wanderwoman (December 03, 2005 2:00 pm ET)
                       

                    Sorry, just read that over and just have to make certain that I don't leave the wrong impression. His brother was an ambassador before he moderated the debates. I think it was inappropriate for him to do the debates given the relationship, but I thought the way I wrote it implied some sort of quid pro quo regarding the conduct of the debates, and I didn't mean to imply that

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                    • Author by Dem02020 (December 03, 2005 2:07 pm ET)
                         

                      that's cool; the significance is in the appointment, not in the timing of it.

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                  • Author by Dem02020 (December 03, 2005 2:05 pm ET)
                       

                    CBS news anchor Bob Schieffer's brother is a former business partner of George Bush's, and was later appointed to an ambassadorship by the President.

                    that's a highly significant fact, I intend to learn more about it, seeing as I know that blood is thicker than water, and wealth and power corrupt even blood. thank you wanderwoman.

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    • Author by mefirst (December 02, 2005 8:46 pm ET)
         

      so he's the one.

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    • Author by bobby joe (December 03, 2005 5:29 am ET)
         

      Schieffer's comment may be ill-conceived (though note that this is in a personal interview of Schieffer, not on his show, and he does state firmly that the pre-war info was wrong), but it's hard for me to immediately see Schieffer as one of the "bad guys." Bob Schieffer is one of the only media figures who's ever written me personally when I voiced concerns about what I saw as a lack of balance on one of his discussion panels. He addressed my concerns point-for-point and there were obvious attempts to rectify the problem on later shows. I've never gotten anything approaching this from Russert, Matthews, or anyone at CNN.

      To borrow Schieffer's comment, I think I have to give the newscaster the "benefit of the doubt" and chalk his statement that follows ("I don't think they deliberately misled people") to old-school politeness, even if I disagree with the sentiment.

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      • Author by wanderwoman (December 03, 2005 8:28 am ET)
           

        To borrow Schieffer's comment, I think I have to give the newscaster the "benefit of the doubt" and chalk his statement that follows ("I don't think they deliberately misled people") to old-school politeness, even if I disagree with the sentiment.

        by bobby joe - Saturday December 3, 2005 05:29:09 AM EST

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        I don't think the problem is one of him being one of the "bad guys". He's compromised because of his ties to the Bush family and therefore his reporting on the administration is suspect. I don't believe in a political bias so much in the media, rather our most well-known news people party with the people they are supposed to be reporting on, and their future advancement depends on access to the most important people. I think that friendships and ambition get in the way of good reporting.

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    • Author by chevyman (December 03, 2005 5:47 am ET)
         

      So now opinion is "misinformation"?

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      • Author by classicliberal2 (December 03, 2005 12:10 pm ET)
           

        So now opinion is "misinformation"?

        Schieffer wasn't offering an "opinion." Bush's moutain of lies on nearly every aspect of this subject is a matter of public record. There hasn't been any doubt of which to give Bush the benefit for over three years now.

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        • Author by chevyman (December 03, 2005 12:20 pm ET)
             

          "I still give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think they deliberately misled people." Notice the part where it says "I". Seems to be his opinion. Again, I ask, is opinion "misinformation"?

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          • Author by Dem02020 (December 03, 2005 7:14 pm ET)
               

            can an opinion be misinformation? it can be much worse than that; it can be criminal.

            just ask Republican Randall "Duke" Cunningham his opinion on military contracts in general, or Operation Iraqi Freedom in particular.

            sure, opinions that are presented as a matter of conscience, when in fact they are bought and paid for, can be misinformation; just as legislative opinions that are presented as (supposed) matters of conscience, when in reality they are bought and paid for, can be (and are) criminal.

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          • Author by solon (December 03, 2005 8:10 pm ET)
               

            chevyman - Saturday December 3, 2005 12:20:10 PM EST

            If I go into a schoolroom and tell blind children that in my opinion the sky is chartruese, is that misinformation, or is it NOT misinformation because I phrased it as an opinion?

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    • Author by west1 (December 03, 2005 10:35 am ET)
         

      Below is an excerpt from Journalism ethics and standards in Wikipedia. I don't believe Shieffer is following the journalism ethics and standards in this case. See link for the complete standard.

      [link to en.wikipedia.org]

      The primary themes common to most codes of journalistic standards and ethics are the following.

      Objectivity

      * Unequivocal separation between news and opinion. In-house editorials and opinion (Op-Ed) pieces are clearly separated from news pieces. News reporters and editorial staff are distinct.

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    • Author by davidfisher (December 03, 2005 11:48 am ET)
         

      Any article concerning Bob Schieffer should include the following information: Bob's brother, Tom Schieffer, was president of the Texas Rangers under Bush's ownership. But more importantly, he was later appointed as U.S. ambassador to Australia.

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    • Author by fantagor (December 03, 2005 3:25 pm ET)
         

      Question: name ONE MSM personality who was chummy with Clinton and spent 8 years apologizing for his personality flaws, flaws that damaged no one but his immediate family. Is there such a person? I don't know. Just asking, since it seems that too many so-called journalists are ravenous Bush apologists.

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      • Author by JuiceD (December 03, 2005 3:59 pm ET)
           

        Question: name ONE MSM personality who was chummy with Clinton and spent 8 years apologizing for his personality flaws, flaws that damaged no one but his immediate family. Is there such a person? I don't know. Just asking, since it seems that too many so-called journalists are ravenous Bush apologists. -fantagor-

        Eleanor Clift? She adored Bill, and I think stuck up for him through thick and thin. Though, she may have turned on him a bit finally. Anyone else here remember?

        I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (December 03, 2005 3:37 pm ET)
         

      Yeah, Bob, you are another example of hard hitting journalism practised by the MSM. Of course, some of your opinions have nothing to do with being friends of the Bush clan eh?

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    • Author by 1428a (December 03, 2005 3:47 pm ET)
         

      Bob Schieffer wants to give the adminstration the benefit of the doubt in the question over incompetance versus lying, fine. Wouldn't it help to know though, the REAL reasons for invading, we may never know, only be able to speculate.

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    • Author by w (December 03, 2005 9:41 pm ET)
         

      he is a good litlle doggie

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