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Fox News Watch panelist Gabler: Fox News "pumping" Christmas "war"

December 05, 2005 8:31 pm ET

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SUMMARY: While appearing on Fox News Watch, media writer Neal Gabler asserted Fox News hosts Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and John Gibson are "demagogues" who seek to "rally the masses" every Christmas season with their talk of a purported "war" on the holiday. Fox News contributor Jane Hall said the effort is "largely a fund-raiser for Jerry Falwell."

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Media writer Neal Gabler, a regular Fox news panelist, asserted that Fox News hosts Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and John Gibson are "demagogues" who seek to "rally the masses" with their talk of a purported effort to suppress public recognition of the Christmas holiday. On the December 3 edition of Fox News Watch, Gabler said of those making such accusations: "They'll do it every Christmas. They did it last Christmas; they'll do it next Christmas." Later in the segment, Gabler stated: "The media, particularly Fox media, has been pumping the hell out of this thing."

Gabler's comments came during a segment that an off-screen announcer previewed by asking, "Is there a Grinch taking the holly jolly out of Christmas? Why has this holy season become a target of the liberal media?" Early in the discussion, Gabler remarked that the battle over public acknowledgement of Christmas "is being called a war ... in certain places." During the segment, American University professor and Fox News contributor Jane Hall specifically criticized O'Reilly and Gibson for their emphasis of the issue:

HALL: Bill O'Reilly has made this a huge issue. He's obviously getting a lot of feedback. John Gibson has a book about it, another Fox anchor. I think this is largely a fund-raiser for Jerry Falwell to pick up on some run-amok PC [political correctness].

Gabler later said: "I want to talk about the media angle, because we've avoided it; it's the elephant in the room -- it's Fox News." He then launched into a critique of "demagogues" O'Reilly, Hannity, and Gibson.

When host Eric Burns protested, "I don't think it is demagoguery to point out that there are people who are themselves being demagogues by trying to take away the worship terminology of 95 percent of Americans," Gabler replied, "[W]e are at war. There's [the humanitarian crisis in] Darfur. There's an AIDS crisis. And you're worried about whether people are saying 'Merry Christmas' or not? ... What world do you live in?"

When Burns defended his focus on the Christmas issue, on the grounds that "it's one issue, and it's the issue that's the subject of this ... segment," Gabler again criticized "[t]he media, particularly Fox media" for focusing excessively on the story.

From the December 3 edition of Fox News Watch:

ANNOUNCER: Is there a Grinch taking the holly-jolly out of Christmas? Why has this holy season become a target of the liberal media? Details next on Fox News Watch.

[...]

GABLER: Michelle Goldberg had a great article, and anybody interested in this issue -- in Salon -- ought to read it, in which she said that Henry Ford, back in 1921, declared that there was a war on Christmas. Of course, he blamed Jews. She cites the John Birch Society -- the reactionary John Birch Society -- in the 1950s saying there's a war on Christmas in 1959 by secularists.

BURNS: All right. Listen, hold it. Let's not call it a war necessarily --

[crosstalk]

GABLER: No, it is being -- it is being called a war --

BURNS: It is.

GABLER: --in certain places.

BURNS: Well, let's not do it here. But let's just say, isn't it ridiculous, Jane, to want to get rid of the word "Christmas tree" and say "holiday tree." But wait -- let me just mention this before you answer. You know, a few years ago in Pittsburgh, there was an edict in one of the school districts that if you were an employee in that school district, you couldn't say "Merry Christmas" to a kid. A memo came down -- you had to say, "Happy Sparkle Season."

[laughter]

BURNS: Serious. Aren't we going too far?

HALL: Well, if you cite those examples, yes. But I think there's -- there's a real question that I have here. I mean, the last time I checked, Jesus was for tolerance. And to have -- Bill O'Reilly has made this a huge issue. He's obviously getting a lot of feedback. John Gibson has a book about it, another Fox anchor. I think this is largely a fund-raiser for Jerry Falwell to pick up on some run-amok PC. I think to talk about the corporations, as Bill O'Reilly has been doing, and what they do -- I mean, he's certainly within his rights. But I think, what are they saying? Boycott the corporations that have holiday wishes? What is the point of that?

[...]

JAMES P. PINKERTON (Newsday columnist): This story was ignored by the mainstream media for --

GABLER: Because it's not a story, and that's why it was ignored. And as I said, in 1921 this began.

HALL: It's a fund-raiser.

GABLER: Now let's talk about the elephant in the room; let's talk about the media.

BURNS: Just a minute, Neal; if it started in 1921 --

GABLER: It's not a story.

BURNS: If I can just --

GABLER: It was a demagogic campaign.

BURNS: If I can just give three examples right now in different parts of the country --

GABLER: We're 300 million people. You know, I can give you --

BURNS: But there are -- just a minute, there are more than three examples to give --

GABLER: Three incidents of chicken pox doesn't make an epidemic.

HALL: But what is the media -- where is the media angle?

GABLER: The media angle right here -- Look, I want to talk about the media angle, because we've avoided it; it's the elephant in the room -- it's Fox News. Come on. It's O'Reilly; it's Hannity; it's Gibson. They're demagogues who realize that at Christmastime, you can -- you can --

[crosstalk]

GABLER: You rally the masses on this issue.

[crosstalk]

GABLER: They'll do it every Christmas. They did it last Christmas; they'll do it next Christmas.

BURNS: I spend this whole show sitting back most of the time. I don't think it is demagoguery to point out that there are people who are themselves being demagogues by trying to take away the worship terminology of 95 percent of Americans.

GABLER: Eric, we are at war. There's [the humanitarian crisis in] Darfur. There's an AIDS crisis. And you're worried about whether people are saying "Merry Christmas" or not?

BURNS: No.

GABLER: What world do you live in?

BURNS: Hey, Neal, it's one issue, and it's the issue that's the subject of this top -- that's the subject of this segment.

GABLER: And the media have been pumping it, and that's my point.

PINKERTON: All right.

GABLER: The media, particularly Fox media, has been pumping the hell out of this thing.
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    • Author by tex (December 07, 2005 12:56 pm ET)
         
      Howard Dean and now Neil Gabler ... we "leftists" seem to be finding our voice of protest, even in the midst of a near monopoly of ownership of the Media by the right. FIVE CONSERVATIVES vs. One Liberal. Not a fair fight ... the rightwingers don't stand a chance.
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      • Author by emile nitrate (December 08, 2005 1:33 am ET)
           
        There is no "War On Christmas", it's a very red herring. Since I don't watch Fox News anymore the only places I hear about this "issue" are on the O'Reilly rebutal sites (including this one). I find it quite entertaining to read and watch clips of O'Reilly getting upset about this but much like the "War On Lint", there are far more relevant issues to pursue. Thanks to Mr. Gabler for calling it what it ain't, a non-story.
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        • Author by victhpooh (December 08, 2005 9:08 am ET)
             
          Bill O'Reilly is showing his creepy side once again. I'm Jewish. I ABSOLUTELY am offended by someone telling me "Merry Christmas". Sorry, but that's the truth. I'm more offended that my religion was hijacked, but that's another letter. Bill should be worrying about the stealing of Christmas by the Hallmarks/WalMarts of the world who have turned a day (albeit a chosen date, not a solemn date) which is supposed to be dedicated to the birth of his Lord into a buying, going into debt and shopping frenzy. I don't know one single Christian who isn't completely overwhelmed and stressed out in this season of Joy. I'm astonished that supposedly religious people like Mr. O are not more offended by what this 'holiday' has become, but instead focus on the nonsense of a greeting by a department store. Luckily for the rest of us 'nuts', every time Mr. O'Reilly speaks he loses credibility, and by extension, so does your network. There is hope.
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    • Author by crimson117 (December 08, 2005 1:15 am ET)
         
      Very nice. No one is assaulting christmas! Someone asked on one of the first mediamatters' posts about O'Reilly and xmas: "Why does MediaMatters.com post about Bill O'Reilly's campaign to get people to say 'Merry Christmas' instead of 'Happy Holidays'? What is the conservative misinformation there?" The conservative misinformation is that they're creating an invisible enemy for their base to rally against. They do this all the time. They try to gain supporters by taking specific things that most people have no quarrel with, and connecting them to big things that aren't actually happening but people would be upset if they were. Small thing: "Holiday" vs. "Christmas" Big scary thing: Liberal plot to turn everyone atheist. For example: It is good business sense to be inclusive of the many religions that have holidays in December.Instead holding a "Christmas sale", you might hold a "Holiday Sale". If your products are religion-specific (such as a Menorah store), then why make your marketing religion specific? Now FNC and O'Reilly try to turn people more conservative by implying that if you're comfortable with a "holiday sale" instead of a "christmas sale", then you are falling prey to a liberal plot to brainwash everyone into becoming atheists. They are telling their viewers: "Watch out! You'd better lean further right, or you'll have to give up your religion!" Lots of groups use these scare tactics to retain members, liberal groups included. But the tactics become a problem when the enemy doesn't actually exist. People ARE trying to take away a woman's right to make choices about her own body. People ARE trying profiting off the war, and off the Katrina disaster. But THERE IS NO GRINCH! No one is trying to steal Christmas. THAT's the conservative misinformation in this post.
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    • Author by blaise (December 08, 2005 2:16 am ET)
         
      As a Christian, I do feel offended when I hear of retail stores refusing to allow their associates to say "Merry Christmas" or have taken the word "Christmas" out of their advertising. I am not offended for myself as much as I am embarrassed and offended for the Christ whom the holiday was meant to honor. For many years, this celebration of the birth of Christ was not something that was governed by the laws of commercialism. It was a faith filled time in which our Lord was close on our minds. In this century the retail world has taken control of the "Christmas Season" and used it for their own personal gain. Sometime not so long ago, some brilliant merchant came up with the idea of pushing his zeal to celebrate this season on the public and entice them into his store. It must have worked, because since I was a little girl, I have waited for Christmas to be offically ushered in by the retail world. It starts with the Macy Thanksgiving Day Parade, when Santa is seen by children on his sleigh--it is Christmas time. The retail stores decide which items we fools will stand in line for on black friday. They fill every corner of the store with green and red holiday decor--they make a fortune off of Christmas. The least we can expect from the very ones who decided that Christmas time was their best opportunity for sales-sales-and more sales; are the words "Merry Christmas." I for one had already began to feel that Jesus wouldnt be to pleased with the way we Christians celebrate his birth, wrapped up in blankets on Black Friday as we wait outside in the cold for the retail stores to open early. I dont think Christ is pleased with the pushing, fighting and headline news stories surrounding the blitz sales at Walmart. I dont think the wise men gave the gifts to Christ thousands of years ago with stores such as Walmart, K-mart and Sears in mind. Christians today will charge up a fortune in order to get every gift on the Christmas list. I dont think that is the way Christ intended his birth to be celebrated either. So after hearing of these retail stores wish to do away with "Merry Christmas" I have to be relieved. It is about time they let go of Christmas! While it is wrong to single out Christmas because it may not be as PC as it once was, Christ wasnt considered to be politically correct in his day either, they crucified him for it--remember? So I hope that all 80% of the Christians in our country today--shop less for Christmas. Dont pay attention in the year to come when the retail stores drag out their Christmas campaign. Dont go stand in line and fight for that "deal" Let the stores LET go of our Christmas season. If they want to offer us deals for some holiday time in which they are attempting to create, lets push for them to offer us those prices all year long as we know that they can. For years it has been said that the Christmas season has become to commercial, let this be the way we take the commercialism out of Christmas.
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    • Author by joseph_b26 (December 08, 2005 4:44 am ET)
         
      The only thing good coming out of this issue is it sets an example of how to mix politics with religion. Am I to assume O'Reilly wants to me and everyone else, to say Merry Xmas instead of Happy Holidays? If I return to using this phrase, the people at Fox will have won the day. This is nothing but a generated argument rooted in O'Reilly feeling powerful. I don't care how you say happy holidays or merry Xmas. Because this issue is so petty, I am betting this was generated as a diversion to something messed up O'Reilly has said like "let the terrorist bomb San Francisco." Now that is so anti humane being I think I will lunch a campaign to save lives in San Francisco simular to the Fox campaign to save the phrase Merry Xmas. Joseph
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    • Author by whomod (December 08, 2005 5:03 am ET)
         
      Hannukah is also celebrated at this time of year, hence retailers wanting to be INCLUSIVE rather than exclusive by acknowledging THE HOLIDAYS rather than just focusing on Christmas to the detriment of everyone else. But regardless, this is just another right wing wedge issue for the sole purpouse of drawing lines and dividing America. Now what would Jesus do? One thing he wouldn't be doing is celebrating the winter solstice and passing it off as his birthday. He'd probably say something like"the whole world's been deceived" or something like that....
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    • Author by jhink (December 08, 2005 12:09 pm ET)
         
      Isn't that what they do? Their beef is about using Christianity to market the kinds Christmas treasures and things that as Jesus would say are treasures and things that become stolen or motheaten. If one believes "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain...", this use of Christ's name to sell things reveals what they are really about. This right wing hullabaloo is about using Christianity as a marketing tool. Both to market commercial goods and their political agendas. When Bush was asked who his favorite philosopher was, he answered, Jesus Christ. Jesus is a philosopher to people who in my view, haven't arrived at the place where they have accepted His divinity. Christians profess a belief that the teachings of Jesus are divine scripture and are to be lived by. Philosophy is one of those things you can take or leave based on your own world view or even a whim. So those who think Bush is a "Godly man" or "a good Christian" ought to have a closer look. Those who think O'Reilly and that ilk are speaking out of some religious concern need to consider how their words and deeds comport with those Christian teachings. We Christians are told to be mindful and beware of those wolves in sheep's clothing and false prophets. Merry Christmas Bill, Happy Holidays to the rest of you.
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