O'Reilly on Factor jacket he offered to Stern: "I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere"
SUMMARY: When radio "shock jock" Howard Stern returned Factor jacket, O'Reilly said: "I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere. It's not going to happen."
On the December 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly offered a Factor jacket to radio "shock jock" Howard Stern. After Stern said, "I won't wear it, but I will give it to a crack whore" and handed it back, O'Reilly told him: "I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere. It's not going to happen."
O'Reilly's comment came during part two of his three-part interview with Stern. Throughout his December 8 television show, O'Reilly read teasers for the taped interview:
- "And part two of my interview with Howard Stern. He has some problems with The Factor, and he's sticking up for lesbians."
- "And later, Howard Stern, a walking controversy. He talks about how lesbians have made him millions. Upcoming."
- "Howard Stern has some problems with The Factor but no problems with lesbians. We'll discuss the issues with him."
- "When we come back, part two of my interview with Howard Stern. He's got some problems with The Factor but no problems with lesbians. Don't miss this one. Right back with it."
In the interview, O'Reilly brought up the lesbian "issue," asking Stern if his show was "still going to be lesbians on parade and strippers and all that" following its move to Sirius Satellite Radio in January. After vowing, "As long as I'm breathing, there will be lesbians," Stern criticized O'Reilly for selling Factor merchandise, saying, "It looks like you emptied out a junkyard and slapped your name on everything." O'Reilly countered that "all the proceeds go to charity," noting that he just wrote Habitat for Humanity "a big check." O'Reilly then suggested: "You can join Habitat for Humanity ... and build houses, Howard Stern, for poor lesbians. I mean, this would be perfect." O'Reilly then offered Stern the Factor jacket. When Stern declined it, O'Reilly told him, "You're not getting it back," adding, "I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere."
O'Reilly introduced the segment by explaining that Stern had become "the highest paid entertainer in American history" by "saying whatever pops into his mind, no matter how offensive it is." O'Reilly then clarified: "No, I have not copied that concept. Roll the tape."
From the December 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: And part two of my interview with Howard Stern. He has some problems with The Factor, and he's sticking up for lesbians.
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O'REILLY: And later, Howard Stern, a walking controversy. He talks about how lesbians have made him millions. Upcoming.
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O'REILLY: Plenty more ahead as The Factor moves along this evening. Howard Stern has some problems with The Factor but no problems with lesbians. We'll discuss the issues with him.
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O'REILLY: When we come back, part two of my interview with Howard Stern. He's got some problems with The Factor but no problems with lesbians. Don't miss this one. Right back with it.
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O'REILLY: Thanks for staying with us. I'm Bill O'Reilly. In the "Personal Story" segment tonight -- and this might not be for children -- part two of our interview with Howard Stern. As we told you last night, he's now the highest-paid entertainer in American history, and his success is based upon a very simple concept: saying whatever pops into his mind, no matter how offensive it is. No, I have not copied that concept. Roll the tape.
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O'REILLY: Is it still going to be lesbians on parade and strippers and all that?
STERN: Bill, there will always be lesbians on this show. I make this vow to you. As long as I'm breathing, there will be lesbians. I will give the people lesbians, because there is nothing sexier in this world -- besides you -- there is nothing sexier than two women getting it on. Ad man, I'm going to do it. In fact, I'm going to take a lesbian dating game, and I'm going to blow it up into an hour show on my channel. You'll see the date.
O'REILLY: Does this cost extra? Or is that under the $12 [monthly subscription fee for Sirius Satellite Radio]?
STERN: That's all under the 12 bucks.
O'REILLY: OK.
STERN: Not as good as the Bill O'Reilly mug. How much is that?
O'REILLY: Oh, you want to get into that now?
STERN: Let's talk about that kazarai you're selling. It looks like you emptied out a junkyard and slapped your name on everything.
O'REILLY: OK, here's where we're going.
STERN: And you've got a briefcase, the Bill O'Reilly briefcase.
O'REILLY: Let me set this up --
STERN: I wouldn't be caught dead in the Bill O'Reilly -- no offense.
O'REILLY: No, of course no offense.
STERN: Who's walking around with a Bill O'Reilly briefcase?
O'REILLY: No, of course there's no offense --
STERN: Imagine I walked into a --
O'REILLY: You wouldn't offend me at all, would you? You would never do that.
STERN: Yes, I would.
O'REILLY: Oh, I'm stunned.
STERN: Sure, I would.
O'REILLY: I'm stunned. You didn't wish me to get cancer, did you, on your show?
STERN: Not yet.
O'REILLY: OK. Now listen, you go on your show, and you say, "O'Reilly's selling all these" -- what, tchotchkes? Is that what you said?
STERN: Tchotchkes. Garbage.
O'REILLY: Garbage. OK.
STERN: Welcome mats. Bill O'Reilly welcome mat.
O'REILLY: All right. All right, whatever. Now, you know that all the proceeds go to charity.
STERN: I don't believe that. What charity?
O'REILLY: You don't believe it?
STERN: What charity?
O'REILLY: OK. Habitat for Humanity, I just wrote them a big check.
STERN: What is Habitat for Humanity?
O'REILLY: That's when people, like you --
STERN: Me?
O'REILLY: You know, if you cared about other people --
STERN: Yes.
O'REILLY: -- would then build a house for poor people. Novel concept. In fact, you know what you could do?
STERN: And give 100 percent of the profits?
O'REILLY: Yes. Everything I get. You know what you can do, though?
STERN: But doesn't this appeal to your ego? Can't you -- you make a lot of money. Can't you donate money to charity? Can't Fox News --
O'REILLY: This is -- I do that anyway. This is extra money.
STERN: Why does Fox News -- listen --
O'REILLY: Are you filibustering now? Because I have a good idea for you. You can join --
STERN: Come outside with me right now. Let's --
O'REILLY: You can join Habitat for Humanity --
STERN: Yes.
O'REILLY: -- and build houses, Howard Stern, for poor lesbians. I mean, this would be perfect.
STERN: Now you're thinking.
O'REILLY: This would be perfect. All --
STERN: Now you're thinking like a degenerate.
O'REILLY: the money that I derive from BillOReilly.com from Factor gear goes to charity, to help kids and poor people. And you are mocking it.
STERN: I'll tell you why I mock it. I mock it because you have such an ego. For you to say --
O'REILLY: You're telling me I have an ego?
STERN: Yes. At least there's some things I don't slap my name on.
O'REILLY: What? What?
STERN: You have your name on jackets, mugs, pens, papers.
O'REILLY: It's all for charity.
STERN: Listen, you're a wealthy guy. Give money of your own to Habitat.
O'REILLY: I do that.
STERN: Give them -- let Fox News donate money to Habitat. You should take those welcome -- when I'm walking around with a billboard of the Bill O'Reilly Show.
O'REILLY: Do you want a Factor jacket, by the way?
STERN: Yes, give it to me for free.
O'REILLY: All right. Give me the Factor jacket.
STERN: Let me ask you a question --
O'REILLY: I'm only going to give you this "no spin" jacket if you wear it. Are you going to wear it?
STERN: If I wear it?
O'REILLY: Look, this is a beautiful, beautiful jacket.
STERN: It's not.
O'REILLY: It is, it's gorgeous.
STERN: Let me tell you why it's not. Can I be a fashion designer for a second?
O'REILLY: Look at the way you're dressed.
STERN: You see this? This grabs you around the middle. If a guy's got a gut, this is going to squeeze his fat.
O'REILLY: This is a terrific garment. Now are you going to wear it? I'll give it to you.
STERN: The "no spin" jacket?
O'REILLY: Yeah. With the flag, the American flag. You are American, correct?
STERN: I won't wear it, but I will give it to a crack whore.
O'REILLY: No, no. You're not getting it back.
STERN: Here, take it.
O'REILLY: I'm not having this on some lesbian somewhere. It's not going to happen.
STERN: But I'm proud of you. You're doing well.
O'REILLY: Thank you.
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by newzhound
(December 09, 2005 7:09 pm ET)
Bull should check out the United States Flag Code - http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html#5 I would suggest his "no spin" pin and his jackets are in violation of the law. Certainly in violation of any standard of decency or good taste. Imagine having to have Howard Stern point out something is in bad taste! As Al Franken would say, "Wow!"Reply Report Abuse -
by theunwillingparticipant
(December 09, 2005 8:03 pm ET)
newzhound: violation of the law? uhm no. Violation of good taste? probably. I wonder what Bill O'Reilly's "war on Christmas" fearing audience thinks when he has Stern on talking about lesbians.Reply Report Abuse -
by steve expat
(December 09, 2005 8:25 pm ET)
Stern and O'Reilly criticizing each other for having big egos? You have to be kidding me.Reply Report Abuse -
by el perro patron
(December 09, 2005 8:43 pm ET)
And this interview is just one more example why. I watched this on tv last night and laughed so hard I nearly fell off the couch. I've never seen anyone give it to O'Reilly like Stern did. And for the most part, O'Reilly just sat back and took it. I don't know if that means that Billy Boy is intimidated by Stern or has some kind of begrudging respect for him, but it sure was a lot of fun to watchReply Report Abuse -
by aleistercrow
(December 09, 2005 9:12 pm ET)
GOD, BILL O'REILLY IS SO CONSERVATVIE. IT'S LIKE REALLY ANNOYING.Reply Report Abuse -
by webprogrammer
(December 09, 2005 9:30 pm ET)
As if some self-respecting lebian anywhere would actually wear it.Reply Report Abuse -
by mj crinklepants
(December 09, 2005 10:35 pm ET)
Sure, already know that Bill is a joke-and he makes us laugh. But I guarantee there is some other, more important, injustice being perpetrated by our media, than O'Reilly being a jackass. Let's get back to work.Reply Report Abuse-
by thurberdog
(December 12, 2005 1:46 pm ET)
As a gay reader of this site, I didn't read that item as showing up Bill as a jackass --- I saw it as an example of the right's homophobia and constant effort to perpetuate the myth of gay persons as lesser beings (in this case, so much so that Bill doesn't even want to think about one of them even touching his worthless jackets). I commend MM for seeing homophobia as one of the deceptions pushed by right wing media.Reply Report Abuse
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by left045
(December 09, 2005 10:36 pm ET)
... A blistering example of "conservative misinformation" ... (roll eyes) ...Reply Report Abuse -
by jjlist
(December 10, 2005 6:02 am ET)
I am trying to figure out how this clip promotes MM's conservative misinformation mission statement. It doesnt. It only serves to keep the feud alive to help MM in the news cycle. When you cover these flashy obnoxious stories it doenst serve MM well at allReply Report Abuse-
by tex
(December 10, 2005 8:22 am ET)
JJLIST: You say, "It only serves to keep the feud alive to help MM in the news cycle." RESPONSE: Explain to us what this "news cycle" is? Back in olden days, when there were only three nightly news broadcasts that lasted 30 minutes, there was a "news cycle". Events had to happen on a "schedule" in order to make it onto a particular newscast, for example to make the FRIDAY broadcast, so events were timed to "break" with this "cycle" in mind. Today, we have 24 hour news stations. We have the 24 hour internet. WHAT IS THIS "NEWS CYCLE" you're talking about???Reply Report Abuse-
by nittacci
(December 12, 2005 12:22 pm ET)
The part of the O'Reilly/Stern interview I found most interesting, is the fact that we have the sainted O'Reilly, who puts himself out there as this moral, all-american, humble, right-thinking man of the people, and Stern, who has been demonized beyond all reason, who is considered to be the height of degneracy and indecency. But Stern, for all his hijinks, has never been accused of sexual harrassment in his personal or professional life. From all accounts, Stern is described as a good father, and in this interview comes across as much more decent, humble, intelligent, thoughtful and self-aware than the scummy, grubbing, perverted O'Reilly. What better example of the media's efforts to distort the truth about two well-known men? The contrast between Stern and O'Reilly was really pronounced. In a perfect world, O'Reilly, who lies, distorts, mongers hate and fear, would be hounded by the FCC, and Stern would have a primetime spot on a high-profile network (for adults, of course).Reply Report Abuse
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by daggotht
(December 12, 2005 12:52 pm ET)
I don't get it either.Reply Report Abuse
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by bl3ckedout
(December 10, 2005 11:55 am ET)
howard and oriely are tools. im glad howard is going away into no mans land. hopefully never to be heard again.Reply Report Abuse -
by scrabbledemon
(December 10, 2005 1:21 pm ET)
This is an amusing exchange between two egomaniacs, but what does it have to do with accuracy in reporting, which is what I though was MM's mission? Please stick to examinations of O'Reilly's misstatements and lies rather than examples of his unpleasant personality. Heaven knows there are plenty of instances of the former, and we don't need the latter. This what matters in the media.Reply Report Abuse -
by fantagor
(December 10, 2005 1:26 pm ET)
But I'll take the bait and say this: Bill O'Reilly just likes saying the word "Lesbians" as if this is some sort of sexual invocation that'll buy him a taste of Howard's world.Reply Report Abuse -
by trillwing
(December 11, 2005 6:18 am ET)
should make the Factor jacket the de rigueur fashion accessory of the season.Reply Report Abuse -
by starwheel
(December 11, 2005 7:34 pm ET)
Why do those who question why this is posted on MMFA post stupid questions like "why is this is posted on MMFA?" We get it, you feel this type of information is beneath you. So I am sure your time could be better sent providing intelligent analysis on another topic you do feel is worthy of your brilliant opinions. I for one was struck that O'Reilly seems to know alot about the Stern show. In fact, it was one of the most genteel interviews I have heard O'Reilly conduct. The lesbian banter was actually kind of humorous except for the fact that O"Reilly comes across as slightly homophobic (which, I suppose is the conservative slant MMFA is addressing). But I would venture to guess sex maniac O'Reilly, moral values champion and author of sexually explicit novels, isn't really that offended by lesbians at all.Reply Report Abuse -
by georgiads
(December 12, 2005 4:07 pm ET)
Howard can make anything funny. I wonder who is next in the O'Reilly smackdown? I hope its George Clooney, I'd love to watch him or Olbermann slap O'Reilly around.Reply Report Abuse
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