O'Reilly, Olbermann showed different versions of Dingell Christmas poem
SUMMARY: Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor and MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann aired two very different interpretations of Rep. John Dingell's poem on the so-called "war" on Christmas. The Factor omitted portions of the poem imploring Congress to focus on more important issues and characterized the poem as a malevolent attack on Fox News, while Countdown included those portions.
The December 15 editions of both Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor and MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann aired portions of a poem by Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) attacking Fox News host Bill O'Reilly's claim that there is a "war" on Christmas. Yet, the clip O'Reilly played on his show omitted the stanzas imploring Congress to discuss other, more important issues. Dingell read his poem on the House floor prior to the passage of a resolution (House Resolution 579) calling for support of "the symbols and traditions of Christmas." The vote was 401 for and 22 against, with 228 Republicans, 172 Democrats, and one independent voting in favor of the measure. Twenty-two Democrats voted against it. The poem suggests that the legislature's time might be better spent on other things.
O'Reilly's edited version characterized the poem as merely a malevolent attack on Fox News and The O'Reilly Factor. But other portions of the poem that were aired on Countdown to accompany a Dingell interview, focused on preventing the so-called "war" on Christmas from distracting from topics like Hurricane Katrina relief, the war in Iraq, and energy prices.
The poem in full:
'Twas a week before Christmas and all through the House,
no bills were passed 'bout which Fox News could grouse.
Tax cuts for the wealthy were passed with great cheer,
so vacations in St. Barts soon should be near.Katrina kids were all nestled snug in motel beds,
while visions of school and home danced in their heads.
In Iraq, our soldiers need supplies and a plan,
and nuclear weapons are being built in Iran.Gas prices shot up, consumer confidence fell.
Americans feared we were in a fast track to ... well.
Wait, we need a distraction, something divisive and wily,
a fabrication straight from the mouth of O'Reilly.We will pretend Christmas is under attack,
hold a vote to save it, then pat ourselves on the back.
Silent Night, First Noel, Away in the Manger,
Wake up Congress, they're in no danger.This time of year, we see Christmas everywhere we go,
From churches to homes to schools and, yes, even Costco.
What we have is an attempt to divide and destroy
when this is the season to unite us with joy.At Christmastime, we're taught to unite.
We don't need a make-up reason to fight.
So on O'Reilly, on Hannity, on Coulter and those right-wing blogs.
You should sit back and relax, have a few egg nogs.
'Tis the holiday season; enjoy it a pinch.
With all our real problems, do we really need another Grinch?
So to my friends and my colleagues, I say with delight,
a Merry Christmas to all, and to Bill O'Reilly, Happy Holidays.Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas.
From the December 15 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: In "The Factor" follow-up segment, tonight, Congressman John Dingell, a committed liberal, took to the House floor yesterday to discuss the Christmas controversy, and me, in verse.
DINGELL [clip]: 'Twas a week before Christmas and all through the house, no bills were passed about which Fox News could grouse.
We need a distraction, something divisive and wily, a fabrication straight from the mouth of O'Reilly. We will pretend Christmas is under attack, hold a vote to save it and pat ourselves on the back.
At Christmastime, we're taught to unite. We don't need a make-up reason to fight.
So on O'Reilly, on those right-wing blogs,
you should sit back and relax, have a few egg nogs.
'Tis the holiday season, enjoy it a pinch. With all our real problems, do we really need another Grinch?
So, to my friends and my colleagues, I say with delight, "A Merry Christmas to all," and to Bill O'Reilly, "Happy Holidays."
O'REILLY: Well, at least the congressman has a sense of humor.
From the December 15 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:
OLBERMANN: We readily admit to making things up sometimes here on Countdown. Of course, we always emphasize that we have made them up, because we're not just honest about it, we're also smug about it.
But when a fictional controversy concocted to drive the ratings and stuff the wallets of a couple of cable fatheads, who do quasi-newscasts, makes it all the way to the government, then we must protest.
Our third story on the Countdown, run for your lives; the "war" on Christmas has reached Capitol Hill.
Congress chose to spend part of one of its last days before the holiday break debating Resolution 579, offered by Mrs. [Jo Ann S.] Davis [R] of Virginia, Mr. [Roscoe] Bartlett [R] of Maryland, and Mr. [Virgil H.] Goode [R] and Mr. [Walter] Jones [R] of North Carolina, a proposal, quote, "expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the symbols and traditions of Christmas should be protected," and suggesting that the House, quote, "One, recognizes the importance of the symbols and traditions of Christmas; two, strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas; and three, expresses support for the use of these symbols and traditions."
The ridiculousness proved all too much for one congressman, John Dingell of Michigan, who used his time on the floor to read a little poem expressing his feelings about House Resolution 579 and his feelings about the "Big Giant Head" who started this imaginary war.
DINGELL [clip]: 'Twas a week before Christmas, and all through the House, no bills were passed about which Fox News could grouse. Tax cuts for the wealthy were passed with great cheers, so vacations in St. Bart's soon should be near.
Katrina kids were all nestled snug in motel beds, while visions of school and homes danced in their heads. In Iraq, our soldiers need supplies and a plan, and nuclear weapons are being built in Iran.
Gas prices shot up, consumer confidence fell. Americans feared we were on a fast track to -- well
Wait, we need a distraction, something divisive and wily, a fabrication straight from the mouth of O'Reilly.
[begin video clip]
O'REILLY: The mail continues to pour in a frightening rate about the Christmas controversies. What many do oppose is banning the word, "Christmas." Come on, even Santa's appalled.
[...]
O'REILLY: Shut up.
[end video clip]
DINGELL: We will pretend Christmas is under attack. Hold a vote to save it and pat ourselves on the back. "Silent night," "The First Noel," "Away in the Manger": Wake up, Congress, they're in no danger.
This time of year, we see Christmas everywhere we go, from churches to homes to schools, and, yes, even Costco. What we have is an attempt to define and destroy it, when this is the season to unite us with joy. At Christmastime, we're taught to unit, we don't need a make-up reason to fight.
So on O'Reilly, on Hannity, on Coulter, on those right-wing blogs. You should sit back and relax. Have a few egg nogs. 'Tis the holiday season, enjoy it a pinch; with all our real problems, do we really need another Grinch?
So, to my friends and my colleagues, I say with delight, a "Merry Christmas" to all, and to Bill O'Reilly, "Happy Holidays." Ho ho ho! Merry Christmas.
OLBERMANN: And the crack staff amplified in this presentation, the congressman's poem, that that was his work.
And also, by the way, after 40 minutes of debate on that Christmas resolution, the House decided to postpone further proceedings on the motion. I'm sure it will be the first thing on the agenda come January.
Representative Dingell joins me now from the Capitol. Thanks for some of your time tonight, sir. We appreciate it.
DINGELL: Thank you. Ho, ho, ho.
OLBERMANN: Indeed. As you pointed out in that poem, there are a few more important things that need to be sorted out in Congress before Christmas than this imaginary attack on Christmas itself. How did Resolution 579 ever get to the floor, let alone take up 40 minutes of taxpayer time there?
DINGELL: Well, I have no idea. Christmas should be in churches, in the hearts and souls of men.
Christmas is with Easter, one of the two most precious and sacred days of Christians, Catholics, and Protestants. It is a day that has special meaning to me, where I attend mass and spend time with my family. And I don't think we need to defend it. What I think we need to do is to practice it.
OLBERMANN: Have you seen any evidence that there's actually any kind of attack on it other than in the minds of the people who have been spreading this story for ratings and book sales?
DINGELL: I found no weakness of Christmas or Christians in my house, my family, my friends, my constituents, the people I serve in southeast Michigan. It's a sacred time, and it's a time when, thank God, we celebrate the coming of the Lord, and we worship His doings and deeds, and we thank Him for his salvation to us.
OLBERMANN: Back for a moment to 579 -- it was only postponed. Nobody -- there was no actual vote on it. Could this actually turn up on the floor again after the New Year? Is more time going to be wasted on this?
DINGELL: Oh, it was voted on today. And it passed overwhelmingly. And its defect is not that we are for or against Christmas.-- Christmas, thank God, is a reality for us -- but Christmas also is something that we should celebrate in our hearts. And Christmas is very, very precious. There is no attack on Christmas.
OLBERMANN: You mentioned, in your poem and thus endeared yourself to our staff permanently -- Mr. O'Reilly of Fox News, obviously the real problems of society are a little too complicated for him to deal with, so he and poor John Gibson have fixated on this thing.
Would it surprise you, sir, that as they have warned us about this rush to change "Merry Christmas" into "Happy Holidays," that the biggest transgressor in the area might be Fox News itself? I mean, they sold O'Reilly "Christmas decorations" and called them "Holiday" ornaments for your "Holiday tree." And instead of a Christmas party this year, their parent company has just held a Holiday party? Did you know about that?
DINGELL: Well, I really, really can't make a good comment on that because it's always been Christmas trees, Christmas time, Christmas day, Christmas ornaments, Christmas gifts. And it's a time of worship and happiness and prayer to the Lord. And it's a day on which we celebrate the coming of the dear Lord Jesus to save us and to rise again on Easter.
OLBERMANN: Is there also, not to it, as well, sir -- I've always thought that this was a unique thing, perhaps, in human existence, that there is a -- they're kind of hand-in-hand. There is a religious Christmas and a secular Christmas going on simultaneously. And the greatest thing about it is that you can participate in one or both or neither as you personally see fit.
DINGELL: Well, that's one of the great things about this country. You know, we're not just Christians or Catholics or Protestants or Jews or Muslims or whatever. We're everything. But we're one country. And we all love this country. And it gives us all extraordinary freedoms for which we are all grateful to the Lord.
And it does something else for us. It gives us the opportunity to worship our God in our own way, and to find our own way to salvation.
OLBERMANN: Representative John Dingell of Michigan, Congressman and poet. Thanks greatly for your time tonight and, in advance, Merry Christmas.
DINGELL: Thank you. Ho, ho, ho.














Being a native of SE Michigan, I have had the privilege of meeting Rep. Dingell on a few occasions. A man of character and class all the way. Thanks to him, he brought a little lightness to all the screamin' and hollerin'!
I think a Jewish person could be offended by the term X-ukah, or X-kah just as a Christian would be offened by X-mas. X-mas is just another way to sucker punch Christians by anti-christians and Jews in my opinion.
I am not anti-semetic, so don't deal me the "religion" card. Just trying to make a point. If you take the "Christ" out of my Christmas, I will take the "Han" out of your Hanukkah and call it X-ukkah! JMO
It's only fair!
Elle, if you were educated about your professed religion, you might know that X is the Greek letter chi, which, when coupled with R (rho), was how Christ's name was written in Greek (one of the orignal languages of the Bible).
So Xmas is quite rightly acknowledging the place of Christ.
But it is far easier to hatemonger than to become educated.
You are ignorant about Christianity. "X-mas" (which is nothing new -- I remember seeing it as a child in the 1950s) isn't part of an effort to cross the "Christ" out of Christmas. Are you familiar with the Greek letters Chi and Ro (Xp)? They are the first two letters of Christus, the annointed one, in Greek. This abbreviation for Christ has a long history -- in art, it appears on a little scroll over the figure of Jesus on the cross. A google.com search (that took me less than one minute) identified the "X" in "X-mas" is the Chi. Don't make assumptions or take O'Reilly's word for things, look them up!
More than 5 people watched Olbermann. I forgot, is he still trying to prove Ohio was stolen?
I was reading your post, waiting for you to provide a persuasive argument to support your sarcastic contention that Ohio wasn't stolen. I'll probably still be waiting a year from now. Before you make statements of no fact, read about your subject first.
While perusing yahoo news, I came across a link that PROVES O'Reilly was right! There is a war on Christmas, being perpetrated, in this case, by those perpetual hate-mongers, the darn dirty hippy-tree-hugging-gay marrying-war protesting-homo supporting-ecofriendly-granola eating nutjobs from san francisco. check out the link... i can't wait to see this on O'Reilly's show as an attack on "the traditional symbols of Christmas." [link to news.yahoo.com]
Is O'Reilly somehow connected to this Resolution? Or did the good congressfolk come up with this on their own. I don't get cable TV so I don't get to see these shows very often. But jeesh are OReilly et al. that powerful that they can start resolutions in Congress?
O-Reilly is the ROP's lap dog. Someone told him to hawk this garbage.
This is exactly how the GOP marketing machine works; they have lackeys throughout the media who's sole purpose is to sell the GOP's message, no matter what it is.
This is so blatant, and in such bad taste that it has had virtually no effect on the discussion of the lies and criminal activity of the Bush administration. It seems that O'Reilly and Limbaugh and the other neocon whores are going to need a new pimp, who has a better message to sell.
EricJP
Ah, but if 9/11 has taught us anything, hasn't it taught us that we can no longer wait until Christmas is under attack before we start defending it? I prefer to think of O'Reilly's campaign as a pre-emptive strike -- much like the war in Iraq -- calculated to stop the aggression BEFORE it reaches our stores . . . I mean, shores. We're fighting the war against the war against Christmas here and now so we don't have to fight it at the North pole later. Or something like that.
Actually if we are going to fight a war this is the war to fight. No blood, no deaths, no costs, no suffering. We should have more wars like this.
I say its time to fight the War Against Shoes. All those flip-flop wearing, club hugging Lacrosse players should be ashamed of themselves. Imagine not wearing shoes. All those little protruding “piggies” could drive someone with a foot fetish to do unspeakable things. Congress should pass a resolution protecting the wearing of shoes.
Please help us Bill, Sean and John fight this battle. I mean, for as often as the three of you put your foot in your mouth, that you would have a vested interest in this matter.
O'Reilly&Gibson, and for that matter Fox news won.
The PROOF is the passage of a resolution (House Resolution 579) calling for support of "the symbols and traditions of Christmas."
Do you really suppose that THIS ISSUE would have come up otherwise?
O'Reilly&Gibson, and for that matter Fox news won.
Did you even read this joke piece of legislation? It doesn't accomplish anything. Retailers will continue to put "happy holidays" or "seasons greetings" or "merry christmas" on their windows (as they choose). People will continue to greet one another with or without reference to christmas at this time of the year. And next year O'Reilly will probably be doing the same thing again.
So please, tell me one pragmatic thing that you think will change because of this legislation or because of anything O'Reilly has said or done on this issue. Because I sure as heck can't think of one.
The phrase "O'Reilly&Gibson, and for that matter Fox news won." was a repeat of the previous poster and was definitely NOT my own statement.
Symbolically.... Sorry, I should have said they WON symbolically.
They MADE it an ISSUE....and Republicans in Congress (with Democratic support!!) gave O'Reilly&Gibson&Fox just what they were looking for. A SYMBOLIC victory. Oh sure forcing everyone to COMPLY would have pleased them more--but trust me, THIS was just as sweet in...a SYMBOLIC way.
SOMETIMES that's enough (just watch for yourself, and see IF they don't claim it as a VICTORY--if they haven't already)
Notice that these wars are simply to galvanize the troops.
Have you heard much about gay marriage any time besides around election time, when the issue was used to drive voters to the polls?
James Dobson was rabid about it - then it disappeared from his website. Did the issue go away? Nope. Just mothballed until the next election.
The same with the war on Christmas.
" Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays.Whatever you want to say is fine with me.She then said" That's right. Have a nice day" I just thought I'd share my horrifying experience on the battlefield during this war on Christmas,LOl
And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
and
And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.
And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
(Luke 18: 9-14, 18-25, KJV)
Of course, not that O'Reilly or any of the so-called Christians fighting to "save" Christmas understand these words. Would that they spent as much time solving real problems as they do on creating problems.
Seems to me this is just the next level of the ongoing "war on liberals". Fox is done blaming every conceivable problem on liberals, so now they have to make up new ones. And that just makes it so much easier. You can really tailor your new issue to you own needs i.e. liberal-blamability.
It didn't take long for O'Reilly to go from blaming Walmart-executives to pronouncing "secular liberals" the root of all evil in this particular battle. As if those executive types are all leftwingers... Not very likely.
Welcome to Bill O'Reilly's Christmas Club! - "Club" meaning "blunt object", of course.Hoo boy, this stuff has even started to seep into my local (Austin) newspaper.I'm 35 years old, and "Happy Holidays" has been around longer than I have, as has the even-less-specific "Season's Greetings".As a kid, none of the adults around me, not even those much older and much more religiously devout, ever once took either of these greetings to mean "Absence of Christianity".Not now,at least not on FOX. Why now? Because O'Reilly, Gibson, et al want the public to believe that "Happy Holidays",etc. is some sort of tofu-turkey, soybean-and broccoli fruit cake, substitute holiday forced through the courts by Ralph Nader, Janeane Garofalo and Michael Moore.What keeps them and their audience from seeing the INclusiveness of these greetings? After all, they do want to SHARE the season with others, don't they? Would it kill them to just think of it as "Christmas and Friends"? Next up: the "War on Independence Day", because "July 4th" isnt patriotic enough! I just hope their heads melt trying to concoct a "War on Easter".