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Following ABC's Stephanopoulos, NBC's Williams used partial Alito response to suggest Alito rejected strong executive power

January 17, 2006 1:13 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Covering the nomination hearing of Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr., NBC News correspondent Pete Williams asserted that "Alito himself told the senators this week that a president does not have the power to disregard a law." But Williams based this on only a part of a response Alito gave on the issue of presidential power. In fact, Alito's entire response on the issue constitutes a legal truism that tells senators nothing about his views on presidential power versus congressional power -- that the president cannot disregard a law that is constitutional. Simply put, Alito told the committee that the president has to follow the law except when he doesn't have to.

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During the January 13 broadcast of NBC's Nightly News, NBC News justice correspondent Pete Williams presented only part of the response Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr. gave to questions at his Senate hearing, and from that partial response, Williams asserted that "Alito himself told the senators this week that a president does not have the power to disregard a law." But Williams left out the rest of Alito's statement on presidential power: The president does not have the power to disregard a law -- that is constitutional. Put simply, as Media Matters for America has previously noted, Alito told the committee nothing it didn't already know -- that the president has to follow the law except when he doesn't have to. Far from the pronouncement on the relative powers of Congress and the president that Williams claimed, Alito's responses to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D VT), when taken in their entirety, amount to a legal truism that told senators nothing about his views on particular statutes or particular presidential actions: that a president is bound by congressional statutes except when Congress has exceeded its constitutional authority in passing those statutes.

Williams's selective quoting echoed a similar distortion on January 12 by ABC chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, who cropped a key part of an Alito quote to falsely suggest that the nominee had "backed away from past statements suggesting a supremely powerful president."

Williams's report first quoted from the testimony of "legal scholars" at Alito's Senate hearings "who warn[ed] that Alito seemed willing to endorse an expansive view of presidential power." He then followed up with Alito's response to Leahy during the January 10 hearings,* which Williams presented as contradicting the scholars' concerns about Alito's views on presidential power:

WILLIAMS: Alito himself told the senators this week that a president does not have the power to disregard a law.

ALITO [video clip]: No person in this country is above the law, and that includes the president, and it includes the Supreme Court.

In fact Alito's full set of responses to Leahy on January 10 show that he did not actually back off from previous statements in support of executive power. Leahy asked him about an August 2002 Justice Department legal memo -- which the department has since withdrawn -- written by Jay S. Bybee, the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, that stated that "[a]ny effort by Congress to regulate the interrogation of battlefield combatants would violate the Constitution's sole vesting of the Commander-in-Chief authority in the president. ... Congress can no more interfere with the President's conduct of the interrogation of enemy combatants than it can dictate strategic or tactical decisions on the battlefield." Leahy asked Alito his view of the memo's conclusions:

LEAHY: What is your view -- and I ask this because the memo's been withdrawn; it's not going to come before you. What is your view of the legal contention of that memo that the president can override the laws and immunize illegal conduct?

ALITO: Well, I think the first thing that has to be said is that -- is what I said yesterday, and that is that no person in this country is above the law, and that includes the president and it includes the Supreme Court. Everybody has to follow the law, and that means the Constitution of the United States, and it means the laws that are enacted under the Constitution of the United States. Now, there can be -- there are questions that arise concerning executive powers, and those specific questions have to be resolved, I think, by looking to that framework that Justice [Robert H.] Jackson set out, that I mentioned earlier.

LEAHY: Well, let's go into one of those specifics. Do you believe the president has the constitutional authority as commander in chief to override laws enacted by Congress and immunize people under his command from prosecutions if they violate these laws passed by Congress?

ALITO: Well, if we were in -- if a question came up of that nature, then I think you'd be in -- where the president is exercising executive power in the face of a contrary expression of congressional will through a statute or even an implicit expression of congressional will, you'd be in that -- in what Justice Jackson called "the twilight zone," where the president's power is at its lowest point. And I think you'd have to -- you'd have to look at the specifics of the situation.

Under continued questioning from Leahy, Alito more fully stated his position that "[n]either the president nor anybody else, I think, can authorize someone to -- can override a statute that is constitutional":

LEAHY: But is that saying that there could be instances where the president could not only ignore the law, but authorize others to ignore the law?

ALITO: Well, Senator, if you're in that situation, you may have a question about the constitutionality of a congressional enactment. You have to know the specifics of the --

LEAHY: Let's assume there's not a question of the constitutionality of the enactment. Let's make an easy one. The -- we pass a law saying it's against the law to murder somebody here in the United States. Could the president authorize somebody, either from an intelligence agency or elsewhere, to go out and murder somebody and escape prosecution, or immunize the person from prosecution, absent a presidential pardon?

ALITO: Neither the president nor anybody else, I think, can authorize someone to -- can override a statute that is constitutional. And I think you're in this -- when you're in the third category under Justice Jackson, that's the issue that you're grappling with.

LEAHY: Why wouldn't it be constitutional for the -- or wouldn't it be constitutional for the Congress to outlaw Americans from using torture?

ALITO: And Congress has done that. And it is certainly -- it is certainly an expression of a very deep value of our country.

LEAHY: And if the president were to authorize somebody -- or say they would immunize somebody from doing that, he wouldn't have that power, would he?

ALITO: Well, Senator, I think the important points are that the president has to follow the Constitution and the laws. And it is up to Congress to exercise its legislative power. But as to specific issues that might come up, I really need to know the specifics. I need to know what was done and why it was done, and hear the arguments on the issue.

But, as Media Matters for America noted after Stephanopoulos's quote cropping, what Alito said is nothing more than a truism learned in the first year of law school: A president is bound to follow statutes that Congress had the constitutional authority to pass. Alito's statement only raises questions; it doesn't answer them. What is the scope of Congress' constitutional authority? What is the scope of the president's constitutional authority? Alito's statement says nothing about that balance of power, much less anything about his views on whether the president has the constitutional authority to authorize conduct that violates a congressional ban on torture.

During his report, Williams identified the same issue as critical to the controversy over Bush's statement upon signing the congressional ban on cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment of detainees, "that he'd follow [that] law as long as it did not conflict with his constitutional authority to protect the American people from further terrorist attacks." Despite noting the president's statement, Williams still selectively used Alito's responses at the hearing to suggest that Alito had taken a position against the president, when, in fact, Alito had not done so.

From the January 13 broadcast of NBC's Nightly News:

WILLIAMS: The judiciary committee chairman, Arlen Specter [R-PA], today said he'll vote for Samuel Alito, whose confirmation now seems assured. But among today's final witnesses were legal scholars who warn that Alito seemed willing to endorse an expansive view of presidential power.

ERWIN CHEMERINSKY (Duke Law School professor) [video clip]: It's too dangerous to have a person like Samuel Alito, with his writings and records on executive power, on the United States Supreme Court.

WILLIAMS: They claim that President Bush has been especially eager to use the statements he makes in signing bills into law to limit their legal reach. Case in point, they say the president's statement two weeks ago, at his Texas ranch, in signing the congressional ban on torture. The president said he'd follow the law as long as it did not conflict with his constitutional authority to protect the American people from further terrorist attacks.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ) [video clip]: Do we sacrifice our ideals --

WILLIAMS: Senator John McCain, who sponsored the bill, said it was never intended to contain any kind of waiver. And legal scholars testifying today said the president was trying to leave a big loophole.

LAURENCE TRIBE (Harvard Law School professor) [video clip]: That was understood to mean that he will decide in his unfettered discretion when the method of interrogation crosses the McCain line and is cruel and inhumane.

WILLIAMS: Alito himself told the senators this week that a president does not have the power to disregard a law.

ALITO [video clip]: No person in this country is above the law, and that includes the president, and it includes the Supreme Court.

WILLIAMS: And his defenders said today that a Justice Alito would not cave to demands from a president.

ANTHONY KRONMAN (Yale Law School dean) [video clip]: I have no reason to think that Judge Alito begins with a strong dispositional inclination to always favor governmental power.

*Alito initially made the statement that no one is above the law during his opening statement on January 9. But that statement was not what Williams quoted. In his opening statement, Alito said, "[T]here is nothing that is more important for our Republic than the rule of law. No person in this country, no matter how high or powerful, is above the law, and no person in this country is beneath the law."

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    • Author by Intrepid Liberal Journal (January 17, 2006 2:17 pm ET)
         

      as Alito coneptualizes it is no different than the "law of Kings." Ben Franklin is turning 300 and one wonders what the former publisher would have thought of the media's coverage of the Alito hearings.

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    • Author by Dem02020 (January 17, 2006 3:14 pm ET)
         

      The fundamental nature of People being always the same, I'd bet that the same things that confront us today, regarding the truth of what the 'media' publishes or otherwise broadcasts, confronted Ben Franklin and the other Colonists petitioning for their Independance...

      I bet there were British-owned newspapers that continually mischaracterized the Public Debate on Independance; that called Independance from England 'cutting and running'; that smeared the good names of any Colonists who opposed the 'administration' of the Colonies; that called into question any prior military service on the part of those Colonists who were positioning themselves at the head of the Continental Army; that called Martha Washington a lesbian, and Betsy Ross too...

      I bet there were British-owned rags, tabloids, and scandal sheets that gowingly praised the British 'administration'; that distracted attention away from all corruption and scandal on the part of that 'administration'; that staunchly defended all that King George said, and attacked his critics as giving aid and comfort to the Colonies' enemies, to the French and the Indians...

      I bet the 'administration' even embedded a male hustler or two into the 'American Press Corps'.

      I bet 'Ben Franklin' would not be at all surprised at the state of todays 'media'; I bet he would agree that we must remain eternally vigilant, as the true and real price we pay for a Free Press; We the People, eternally vigilant...

      Ben Franklin knew all this then, because he published, much to the annoyance (and anger and hatred) I'm sure, of the British 'administration'; and if Ben Franklin were alive today (and some say that he is), I would bet that he would not be surprised, and that he would be a publisher, and that he, along with we (We the People), would be eternally vigilant of the Free Press and of the 'administration'...

      If Ben Franklin were alive today (and some say that he is), I would bet that he would be a Blogger.

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    • Author by pick of the litter (January 17, 2006 3:38 pm ET)
         

      Even the NYT editorial sees the potential for abuse of executive power by Alito's confirmation.

      see "The Imperial Presidency at Work" The New York Times | Editorial

      Sunday 15 January 2006

      [link to www.truthout.org]

      "Alito's statement only raises questions; it doesn't answer them. What is the scope of Congress' constitutional authority? What is the scope of the president's constitutional authority? Alito's statement says nothing about that balance of power..." Bravo MMFA! Spot on.

      The Lindsey Grahams of the world will see to it that Alito says nothing but platitudes, inference left up to each mind while the judge's mind remains a mystery.

      Al Gore gave a great speech on the current executive's deplorable erosion of balance among the three branches of government as intended by the Constitution. See speech text: [link to www.truthout.org]

      I caught George S. on Colbert Report yesterday, he seemed genial and game. What does he have to gain by "cropping" Alito's words? Why isn't the press making an issue of these obvious presidential power grabs and why are the critics being completely marginalized?

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    • Author by tex (January 17, 2006 5:14 pm ET)
         

      The non-denial denial, the escape clause, the meticulously worded response, the "one exception" that destroys the rule, all are legalistic tricks used today by Republicans and those they wish to install.

      Bill Clinton was roundly criticized for his "legalistic answers" when being quizzed about his sex life. Yet, it's standard operating procedure for the Rightwing to obfuscate and mislead using such legalistic twistings.

      Why is it reported that Alito has "backed away" from the "unitary executive" idea? Because that is the impression he wished to give. Did he REALLY? Not at all, but the analysis of the entirety of his statements would not make a soundbite story.

      The rightwing understand the media's ... and thus the public's ... short attention span. In depth analysis will bore, and will not be tolerated (goes the conventional wisdom). Keep the story simple, give the proper sound bites, and the TRUTH? ... well, there's no need to burden the public with THAT.

      For the record, Alito said NOTHING that would prevent him installing Bush as a Monarch. His "exceptions" cut to the core of what his job will BE.

      He says Bush must follow the Constitution, but Alito veiws the Constitution much differently than precedent or any rational reading. When asked to get specific about what he believes the Constitution INTENDS, he craftily says he can't get into that, because a case might come before his court.

      He's all set to install a Monarch in America, and Scalia and Thomas and Roberts are ready to help him. They have already revealed their TORY tendencies. Alito, for now, is the stealth nominee, hoping to fool and deceive in order to be confirmed.

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      • Author by shanteem (January 19, 2006 9:25 am ET)
           

        Judge Samuel Alito's conduct in the Monga/Vanguard appeal also deserves closer scrutiny by the Senate Judiciary Committee than was given during the hearings. At the hearings, the Committee focused on Alito's 1990 promise to the Senate to recuse in Vanguard cases. However, the equally important issue raised by Alito's conduct and his departure from the laws in the Monga/Vanguard case was given no attention. An examination of the manner in which the Monga/Vanguard appeal unfolded in Alito's hands, the irregular procedures adopted against this widow who represented herself, and an inquiry into Alito's rulings favoring Vanguard, are all necessary to recognize the many false statements Alito made to the Committee. His actions were so glossed over, that millions of Americans now face potentially enormous threats from the institutions they rely on to guard their IRAs.

        This issue is of national significance potentially affecting an estimated 44.3 million American households holding $2.41 trillion in IRAs, invested in mutual funds. Alito's decision in the Monga/Vanguard appeal invites IRA Trustees to explore ways to evade their retirement fund Contracts with the individual investor, and confirms the unfair advantage he affords powerful corporations over the individual.

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