Myths and falsehoods on the NSA domestic call-tracking program
SUMMARY: Media Matters documents the misleading or false claims advanced by media figures and Bush administration supporters in the wake of news that the National Security Agency had since 2001 been secretly collecting records of phone calls made by millions of Americans.
On May 11, USA Today reported that the National Security Agency (NSA) had since 2001 been secretly collecting records of phone calls made by millions of Americans. The article reported that the NSA, in cooperation with three major phone companies, "reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans -- most of whom aren't suspected of any crime" and uses the data "to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity."
The public disclosure of the domestic call tracking program provoked bipartisan criticism and calls for a full congressional investigation. Further, it revived the contentious debate over the NSA's warrantless eavesdropping on U.S. residents' international communications. As The New York Times revealed last year, the president authorized the agency to conduct such surveillance shortly after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, in apparent violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which requires court approval in order to conduct domestic electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes.
As with the exposure of the warrantless surveillance program in December 2005, media figures and Bush supporters have advanced numerous misleading or false claims in the wake of the news, as Media Matters for America documents below.
#1: The NSA has access only to Americans' phone numbers and call records -- not names, addresses or other identifying information
In reporting on the NSA call-tracking program, some media figures have emphasized that the phone companies are not providing callers' names and addresses to the agency -- only their phone numbers and records of their various calls. Examples include:
- CNN national security correspondent David Ensor: The phone companies provide the NSA "the phone numbers they call -- not the names, not the addresses of the people they called." [CNN International's Your World Today, 5/11/06]
- NBC senior investigative correspondent Lisa Myers: "The data provided by AT&T, Verizon, and Bell South reportedly includes phone calls made and received but not customers' names and addresses." [NBC's Today, 5/11/06]
- ABC chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross: "Officials say the phone records, with no names attached, are fed into NSA computers, programmed to track patterns between the U.S. and places where suspected terrorists might be, such as Afghanistan and Pakistan." [ABC's World News Tonight, 5/11/06]
- Fox News host John Gibson: "[T]he NSA is compiling phone calling patterns in an effort to track terrorists here in this country. No addresses or names are reportedly part of that information being collected." [Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson, 5/11/06]
- Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron: "The data records that the NSA is obtaining do not contain customer names, addresses, or anything about the actual call content." [Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, 5/11/06]
- Fox News correspondent Jim Angle: "But others of both parties said this is far different and far less intrusive than actually listening to suspected terrorist communications. In this case, the NSA is reportedly collecting nothing more than phone call records, without any names or addresses." [Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, 5/11/06]
But the original May 11 USA Today article on the program made clear that phone customers' names, addresses, and "other personal information" can "easily" be obtained by cross-referencing their phone numbers with other databases, as Media Matters for America noted. A May 12 Washington Post article further reported that "the government has many means of identifying account owners, including access to commercial databases from ChoicePoint and LexisNexis."
Similarly, some reporters have failed to challenge Republican lawmakers' assertions that the data collected by the NSA is limited to phone numbers. For instance, in a May 12 article, Associated Press staff writer Katherine Shrader uncritically reported Sen. Wayne Allard's (R-CO) claim that "[t]elephone customers' names, addresses and other personal information have not been handed over to NSA as part of this program."
#2: The NSA is only tracking phone calls, not listening to them
In describing the specifics of the NSA call-tracking program, certain media figures have claimed that the NSA only captures call records and does not use the data for surveillance. On the May 11 edition of CNN's Live From..., CNN congressional correspondent Ed Henry reported, "[T]he government appears to be ... collecting these records but not actually eavesdropping, not listening in on the calls, an important distinction." On the May 11 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, co-host Sean Hannity claimed, "[A]ll we're looking at are patterns ... we're not looking at the content, we're not listening to people's calls."
But in affirmatively claiming that the NSA is not using the data for surveillance, Henry and Hannity are in effect asserting that the NSA's call-tracking program operates independent of the NSA's warrantless domestic eavesdropping program. They offer no support for this claim. Indeed, a May 12 Washington Post article reported that the two programs are directly linked, as the data provided to the NSA by the major phone companies assists the agency in selecting targets for warrantless surveillance. From the May 12 Post article:
Government access to call records is related to the previously disclosed eavesdropping program, sources said, because it helps the NSA choose its targets for listening. The mathematical techniques known as 'link analysis' and 'pattern analysis,' they said, give grounds for suspicion that can result in further investigation.
Despite this report, the Post and ABC News conducted a poll on the call-tracking program that asserted that the NSA is not "listening to or recording the conversations," as Media Matters noted. Sixty-three percent of respondents found the program, as misleadingly described, acceptable.
#3: The Clinton administration implemented a more intrusive surveillance program
Shortly after the disclosure of the NSA's warrantless domestic surveillance program in December 2005, conservative media figures attempted to draw a parallel between the Clinton administration's use of a surveillance program known as Echelon and the warrantless domestic eavesdropping authorized by the Bush administration. In the wake of this new revelation, media have equated the NSA call-tracking operation and Echelon. For instance, a May 12 New York Post editorial claimed that "the program has clear antecedents in a widely rumored surveillance program called Echelon, which was hotly debated across the Internet back in 1999 -- nearly two years before President Bush took office." On the May 12 edition Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade said, "This has been happening since 2000. This isn't one man's policy. The foundation was already laid for this six years ago."
But as Media Matters noted in response to the earlier comparisons, in contrast with the Bush administration's surveillance program, the eavesdropping of U.S. residents conducted under Echelon was carried out in compliance with FISA, according to then-CIA Director George J. Tenet. In his April 12, 2002, testimony before the House Intelligence Committee Tenet denied that Echelon was used to spy on U.S residents without a warrant. He said, "We do not target their conversations for collection in the United States unless a FISA warrant has been obtained from the FISA court by the Justice Department." Then-National Security Agency director Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden -- currently Bush's nominee for CIA director -- also appeared before the committee and testified, "If [an] American person is in the United States of America, I must have a court order before I initiate any collection [of communications] against him or her."
By contrast, since the disclosure of their warrantless domestic surveillance program, Bush has asserted -- and administration officials such as Hayden have repeated -- that he possesses the authority to eavesdrop on U.S. residents' communications without FISA approval.
Conservative media figures such as Hannity and syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin have gone a step further, however, and claimed that Echelon was more intrusive than the Bush administration's current surveillance activities. On the May 11 Hannity & Colmes, Hannity said, "Under the Echelon program there is the ability to monitor, as I said, the substance and content. ... So it seems odd to me that we have a far more intrusive program that liberals support, and now they're all up in arms about a far less intrusive program [the NSA call-tracking program]." In a May 12 column, Malkin wrote, "The paper [USA Today] admits the kind of data collection involved is not new. The Clinton administration's Echelon program was far more intrusive."
As with Hannity's claim that the NSA is not using the phone records data to intercept communications of Americans, these assertions rest on the assumption that the data collection program operates independently of the NSA warrantless domestic surveillance program. But as noted above, the Post has reported that the two are directly linked.
#4: Only Democrats are criticizing the NSA program
In reporting on the NSA data collection program, various media figures have cast the controversy as a purely partisan dispute by suggesting that only Democrats have criticized the program. In fact, a number of prominent Republican congressmen -- current and former -- have also denounced the program or at least voiced skepticism. As Media Matters noted, Sens. Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-SC), and House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) all raised questions and criticism of the program following its disclosure. According to a May 12 USA Today article, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) "questioned why the phone companies would cooperate with the NSA." According to Grassley: "Why are the telephone companies not protecting their customers? ... They have a social responsibility to people who do business with them to protect our privacy as long as there isn't some suspicion that we're a terrorist or a criminal or something."
On the May 11 edition of Hannity & Colmes, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) said:
GINGRICH: I'm not going to defend the indefensible. ... I'm prepared to defend a very aggressive anti-terrorist campaign, and I'm prepared to defend the idea that the government ought to know who's making the calls, as long as that information is only used against terrorists, and as long as the Congress knows that it's under way. But I don't think the way they've handled this can be defended by reasonable people. It is sloppy.
On the May 11 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, host and former Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL) said: "Memo to the president and congressional leaders who signed up on this lousy program: We don't trust you anymore."
And yet, on the May 11 edition of Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson, homeland defense correspondent Catherine Herridge reported: "The NSA issue dominated the session of the Senate Judiciary Committee today with senior Democrats on this committee saying the new revelation will impact Hayden's confirmation." On the May 11 edition of Special Report, Fox News chief White House correspondent Carl Cameron --during a "hard news" segment -- attacked Democrats for "complaining about the NSA programs without really knowing what they are" and echoed Republicans in saying that "is precisely why so many Republicans say Democrats just aren't serious about security."
#5: "Experts agree" this type of data collection is "legal"
A variety of media figures have stated unequivocally that the NSA data collection program is "legal," or that "experts agree" the program is legal. There are, however, a number of experts who have said that the administration might be acting illegally. The New York Times reported on May 12: "Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies [CNSS], said, 'If they don't get a court order, it's a crime.' She said that while the F.B.I. might be able to get access to phone collection databases by using an administrative subpoena, her reading of federal law was that the N.S.A. would be banned from doing so without court approval. Depending on how it was conducted, it may have also have been a crime." The CNSS also issued a statement featured on its website, stating, "On May 11, 2006, USA Today reported that the NSA has been secretly collecting the phone records of millions of Americans. The President held a news briefing in which he carefully failed to deny that the program exists. Such surveillance, if not authorized by the FISA court, is illegal." A May 12 USA Today article quoted Georgetown University law professor David Cole saying: "This may well be another example where the Bush administration, in secret, decided to bypass the courts and contravene federal law."
In addition, Newsday reported on May 12:
However, James Dempsey of the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology said several laws appear to apply to the described program.
Real-time collection of data would require the NSA to get a warrant either from a criminal court or from the special court created by the Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Act, he said.
And if the NSA is collecting historical records, the telecommunications companies face the Electronic Communications Privacy Act and another law that prohibits sharing information without a subpoena or court order, he said.
Nevertheless, on the May 11 broadcast of NBC's Nightly News, senior investigative correspondent Lisa Myers reported: "Some experts agree that the program, if conducted properly, is legal. But some warn there is also great potential for abuse." Myers failed to note that there are experts who have gone beyond warning of the potential for abuse to challenge the reported program's legality. Similarly, ABC News chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross reported on the May 11 broadcast of World News Tonight: "In fact, many experts we talked to today said the program is legal, they believe, based on a U.S. Supreme Court decision that held that phone customers have no expectation of privacy for the phone numbers they dial. What worries some, of course, Elizabeth, is what the government does next if they detect what they think is a suspicious pattern."
But, while the Supreme Court ruled in Smith v. Maryland (1979) that the use of "pen registers" -- devices that record only the numbers dialed and received at a specific phone -- is not a violation of Fourth Amendment rights, some legal experts have noted that the NSA's phone data collection program might violate federal statutory law. As George Washington University law professor Orin Kerr explained in a May 11 entry on his weblog:
To summarize, my very preliminary sense is that there are no Fourth Amendment issues here but a number of statutory problems under statutes such as FISA and the pen register statute. Of course, all of the statutory questions are subject to the possible argument that Article II trumps those statutes. As I have mentioned before, I don't see the support for the strong Article II argument in existing caselaw, but there is a good chance that the Administration's legal argument in support of the new law will rely on it.
On the May 11 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Roger Cressey, NBC counterterrorism analyst and former counterterrorism advisor to Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush, claimed that "assembling the database in and of itself is not illegal." Fox News host Bill O'Reilly claimed on the May 11 edition of The O'Reilly Factor that "there's nobody who believes that the Bush administration is going to lose any of this stuff in a court of law."
#6: NSA program could have prevented 9-11 attacks
A number of media figures have suggested that the NSA data collection program could have prevented the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks had it been in place before then. This same claim was advanced by the Bush administration to defend the NSA's warrantless domestic surveillance program when its existence was publicy disclosed in December 2005, as Media Matters noted. This argument, however, is completely unsubstantiated. As Media Matters noted when Hayden advanced this claim in January, the 9-11 Commission and congressional investigators determined that it was primarily bureaucratic problems -- rather than a lack of information -- that were responsible for the security breakdown. The Washington Post reported on January 24:
Hayden echoed a claim earlier this month by Vice President [Dick] Cheney that, if the NSA program had been in place prior to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, "it is my professional judgment that we would have detected some of the 9/11 al Qaeda operatives in the United States."
Like Cheney, however, Hayden did not mention that the NSA, CIA and FBI had significant information about two of the leading hijackers as early as January 2000 but failed to keep track of them or capitalize on the information, according to the Sept. 11 commission and others. He also did not mention NSA intercepts warning of the attacks the day before, but not translated until Sept. 12, 2001.
But Matthews, on the May 11 edition of Hardball, said to Sen. Ken Salazar (D-CO):
MATTHEWS: Well, here's where the tire hits the road, Senator. Suppose our authorities had broken up 9-11 the day before, because they noticed telephone traffic which suggested 19 people were about to grab four planes and take them in to buildings. Would that have justified the program if that had happened?
On the May 11 edition of Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox News chief Washington correspondent Jim Angle reported:
ANGLE: For instance, if this had been in place before 9-11, and the U.S. had the phone number used by Al Qaeda planner Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, it could have searched the database to locate which numbers he was calling in the U.S., which might have led to the hijackers before they boarded their planes.
Angle's suggestion that the program could have provided the NSA with alleged 9-11 mastermind Khalid Shaik Mohammed's phone number, thus leading authorities to discover the 9-11 plot, ignored the fact that the NSA was monitoring Mohammed's phone calls the day before the attacks and captured a conversation between him and lead hijacker Mohammed Atta. But, as Knight Ridder reported on June 7, 2002:
A secretive U.S. eavesdropping agency monitored telephone conversations before Sept. 11 between the suspected commander of the terror attacks and the alleged chief hijacker, but did not share the information with other intelligence agencies, U.S. officials said Thursday.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the conversations between Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohammed Atta were intercepted by the National Security Agency, or NSA, an intelligence agency that monitors and decodes foreign communications.
The NSA failed to share the intercepts with the CIA or other U.S. intelligence agencies, the officials told Knight Ridder. It also failed to promptly translate some intercepted Arabic-language conversations, a senior intelligence official said.
#7: Veracity of USA Today report is in question
Some in the media have suggested that the original USA Today report on the NSA's call-tracking program may be unfounded. For instance, on the May 11 edition of Special Report, host and Fox News Washington managing editor Brit Hume cited the USA Today story and added, "Whether that was actually true or not, it was enough to set off another uproar on Capitol Hill over allegations of domestic spying." Similarly, Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano declared on the May 11 edition of Fox News' The Big Story that we need to know the "facts" about the NSA program. He then said of the USA Today article, "The newspaper is just the newspaper reporter's opinions."
In fact, while the Bush administration has not confirmed or denied the substance of the USA Today report, several members of Congress have confirmed the existence of the program. According to a May 11 Bloomberg News Service article, Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, disclosed that he had been briefed about the program. Further, on the May 11 edition of PBS' The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) said, "I'm a member of the subcommittee of the Intelligence Committee that's been thoroughly briefed on this program and other programs."















Go to the FauxNews website and read the comments in the "Only on Fuax" section titled "If I were President". What is posted there should make you guys VERY afraid.
I personally never thought l would see the day when AMERICANS, let me repeat that, AMERICANS would be so eager to give up their civil liberties, the thing that made you a country in the first place, the thing which was a rallying call for a revolution and which was so important that it is the basis for your constitution. I am shocked that people in your country are so afraid of a guy sitting in a cave with failed kidneys that you are willing to throw away the freedoms you fought so hard for. This current administration has done a lot of damage to your country and it's reputation around the world be it politically, economically and environmentally that it will take time to get it back, but if the comments are anything to go by, you guys may be more screwed that the rest of us thought.
I think the key lies in your phrase, "you are willing to throw away the freedoms you fought so hard for."
See, our current "leadership" has never had to fight for ANYTHING, ever in their lives. We are currently led by wealthy elites and"Chickenhawks" who have avoided ever placing themselves in physical danger. They're used to getting exactly what they want, when they want it. And while they will not place THEMSELVES in harm's way -- they have no qualms about sending the OTHER poor suckers to fight and die, the "common folk".
The majority of Americans simply do not pay attention to politics. They can hardly be blamed; they have their own lives to lead, and that's getting HARDER thanks to present "leadership". Plus, keeping up with politics can make you furious, perplexed, and crazy. We Americans only pay attention when we feel we HAVE to, just before elections.
Particularly on complex questions like constitutional rights and legal fine points, the American People turn off. It's not so much that we are WILLING to give up our rights, it's that we aren't exactly sure WHAT represents an encroachment of tyranny, especially when the tyrants in charge and the majority of the media is are telling us NOT TO WORRY. And telling us that everything they do is for our own good and our own safety.
It will take investigations, the PROVING of the elements of crime, the exposure of concrete examples of violation, and demonstrating in a way that cannot easily be SPUN that this administration has been power-grabbing in contradiction of the Constitution.
Rhetorically, of course, the Administration DENIES everything. In court, with each point questioned, and witnesses under subpeona, the denials fall away, and we are left with the stark truth about what has been going on.
This is our system of OVERSIGHT, of checks and balances, and it WORKS. It is slow, but it WILL win the day, even with a majority of GOPers monopolizing all of government and most of Media.
Americans ARE waking up to the reality of Bush rule. He's now only fooling 20% of the people. 70% recognize he is a disaster. (Of course, the wealthiest 10% are "his base", and are making out like bandits. He will retain this 10% no matter WHAT.)
Bush warned us he prefered dictatorial powers as opposed to the hard work of governing within a democracy. Bush gained the White House, after all, by OVERRULING democracy and being appointed by a combination of systemic disinfranchisement, a favorable judiciary, dirty tricks, and ownership of the voting equipment. Bush has NO USE for democracy, or leading within one. And so, he has made the power-grabbing errors that will sink him.
It can't happen soon enough.
Thanks for the information. Although shocked and saddened by reading the statements of my fellow citizens, I was not surprised. How the hell can we defend the insanity that is Fox News and the average Fox News Viewers? I can only hope that we will get back to being the country "of the people, by the people and for the people".
The Fox News viewers are on the average, ill-informed, under educated and willing to be persuaded by jingoistic logic. They have bought into the idea that there is only black and white in the world, no shades of gray and God, is on our side. And with the continuing underfunding of our education system, I feel this will get worse before it gets better.
The answer is to continue our struggle. We have history and the constitution on our side.
Where were you freedom lovers when RICO was passed?
Domestic privacy and due process are out of the picture when the government breathes the word "Organized Crime".
If the Feds are smart enough to consider AlQaeda or your PTA a "corrupt organization" - then there is no need for Patriot Act type laws or Privacy Infringement debate.
These freedoms have been gone for nearly a generation. Glad you woke up.
Under RICO, a person or group who commits any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period and, in the opinion of the US Attorney bringing the case, has committed those crimes with similar purpose or results can be charged with racketeering.
This is hardly the same as "A person who is declared an unlawful combatant by W."
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Protecting Americans from threats and acts of terrorism requires a system of "checks and balances" and accountability in all branches of government, law enforcement and the NSA.
There could be serious violations of privacy if the NSA database of phone numbers gets into the hands of an abusive and/or self-serving political, government or religious leader or institution.
Once the NSA database turns to a political tool -- the protections of Americans from terrorism and privacy breaches becomes secondary -- this is a serious civil rights violation and the public deserves to know the truth.
Has the NSA phone number database been violated by any person in authority within the NSA or other government law enforcement agency?
If an abuse has occurred within the NSA, has the "crime" been addressed through civil or criminal sanctions? and,
Finally, if there has been a violation of privacy laws within the NSA telelphone number database, will Americans find out about the breach from the media, the NSA or President Bush?
Debby Bodkin, Founder www.catholics4justice.com
So maybe if this phone record program had been in place, a few more links between terrorists might have been established. But not only (as you point out, MMFA) was the US government already recording 9/11 plotters phone calls, the plotters assumed this was happening and spoke in code. Pretty hard to see how anyone could have learned exactly (or enough to prevent the attacks) what they were talking about, I think.
The terrorists didn't even need to bother with coding their conversations, the NSA was so inept that their intercepts weren't translated until it was too late.
Remember that there are numerous dialects and languages used in the Arab world - all the terrorists have to do is speak some obscure tribal dialect and the NSA/CIA is stymied due to their lack of skilled tranlators.
"9/11 could have been stopped if we had just outlawed Islam in America."
Then again, I could be wrong -- it's probably already been said. Pat Robertson, anybody?!
America's National Security has been severely compromised, because the government decided that keeping the government heterosexually "PURE" was more important than rigorous terrorist pursuit.
Rare and valuable Arabic translators were summarily dismissed because it was found they were GAY. Their personal sexual lives led officials to decide the American People no longer needed their services in the "War against Terror." As a result, America is MUCH less safe, and our National Security has been crippled. But we are assured that, as best as they can manage, government employees who are boys are sleeping with girls, and vice versa. Gotta keep those PRIORITIES straight, you know.
"According to new Defense Department data, between fiscal years 1998 and 2003, 20 Arabic- and six Farsi-language experts were booted from the military ... these GIs trained at the elite Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California. Had they graduated — assuming 40-hour work weeks and two-week vacations — they could have dedicated 52,000 man hours annually" towards interpreting information pertaining to the War on Terror; interrogations, message translation, communicating with foreign-speaking allies.
When Bush says he's doing "everything he can" to keep us safe, I want to PUKE. He's LYING. Everything he does makes us LESS safe, and for ridiculous reasons. He fires skilled and qualified people because of their personal sexual preferrence. He outs CIA operations because he got caught in a LIE and is pissed about it. He refuses to divulge information that will show him in direct violation of the Constitution.
Our founders wisely warned us to beware of enemies from WITHIN. They knew there were would-be tyrants like this current misadministration, dying to become Monarchs.
Your post is correct.......except that not all of us here in America are accepting this crap from the clowns running things!
The problem I think is that we as a people....are so secure in our lives and that (conservatives = REGRESSIVES) are willing to blindly support their guy in DC......
If only those with little or no voice would pick up a book or look at other 'news' sources (other than Fox Opinion or basically any MSM American news source)
It is amazing that these same defenders of NSA wiretappings, Illegal wars, illegal imprisonments, illegal outing of CIA operatives, the USAPATRIOT Act........
Where the same ones that thought that a president getting a blowjob was so much more a serious crime and National Security event!
We (liberals = PROGRESSIVES) are....with lots of grassroots works..... will retake our country and start to mend the damage done starting this November!!!
For those of you in here that still think we PROGRESSIVES don't have answers......
Just look around.......right-wing REGRESSIVE ideals are bad for the people, the country and the planet!!
TO EVERYONE TIRED OF REGRESSIVE TALKING POINTS AND BS......... I CALL ON ALL OF YOU TO CALL THE RIGHT-WINGERS WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.......
REGRESSIVES!!
They (regressives) have gone the last 40-50 years beating up on liberals and smearing the name......its time we put it back to them!! Like that old saying....."What comes around.....goes around!!"
I agree. No quarter. A common trap I've observed is 'liberals' -- by definition - MUST be the ones who play fair, and therefore, MUST be the ones who are repeatedly victimized.
Well, with any luck... it's not too late. Even Ma and Pa Kettle in the Midwest don't like what's going on... Vigilence is the key. This site -- in my mind -- is an ingenious beacon of hope within a morass of fearmongering and doublespeak. We, as a nation...regardless of political affiliation, religion, etc... have to stand firm versus these lying crooks. It's the only way out.
Wasn't Bill Clinton, when he denied having sexual relations with "that woman," standing in exactly the same spot (and in front of the same picture?) as George W. Bush was the other day (see photo on home page) when he denied that "we" are listening to the content of Americans' phone calls, etc? Whatever the case, neither looked very comfortable, and neither seemed entirely believable.
...But, honestly... I didn't care then about the Clinton/Lewisnky BJ. It seems to me the stakes and 'liberties' taken by Bush, Inc. make that BJ (the impeachable offense) look like kiddy play.
What would have happened if Clinton said, "I had the BJ...because the terrorists hate your freedom". Sounds absurd -- and it is. But, not any more absurd than the connections Bush, Inc. has made.
I agree with all of the comments. We're on a steep downward glidepath to losing every Constitutional right we have. In case you've heard about the newest Zogby poll about Fox News and the Ohio elections being stolen...And you've had trouble googling it...Just cut&paste this website to your browser and you see further evidence of the Zombies of Faux News. It's a huge eye-opener (for everyone but them!) If I was Empress of the US, I would mandate the Fairness Doctrine, the Equal Time doctrine and a breakup of the media monopoly by midnight Sunday, May 14, 2006!!!
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Vigilance!
I didn't know that this blog would automatically convert the URL into a hyperlink. Cool!
Vigilance!
(No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation...General Douglas MacArthur)
What else is this maladiminisstration illegally doing? Congress needs to investigate these law violators. I hope John Conyers gets his way to impeach Cheney-Bush. These bums love to be arrogant. At least,their poll numbers are down. They have just now made the debt worse. Historians can already find them below the worst we've ever had before! One has to be faith -based to find them credible.
This is the email I sent to my Senator:
Sir, I realize that this a total waste of time since you are a "diehard" Bush supporter (have you EVER voted against him?), but I have to vent. I am retired Air Force. I did NOT spend 22 years defending our constitution only to have the Executive branch track millions of American phone calls. Do NOT give the same old song and dance about only tracking phone numbers. I am quite database literate and know how easy it is to link several databases to cross reference names, addresses, etc. I served in SE Asia and my last assignment was in SW Asia during Gulf War I. I did NOT agree to this, nor did I lay my life and the lives of my troops on the line, for this invasion of all of our privacy rights. Why hasn't your boy, Dubya, produced Osama? Why are we in Iraq? Why is he tracking MY phone calls? Why are so many of his "hires" facing indictment? Is it possible to answer any or all of these questions without Ken Mehlman's and Karl Rove's talking points? I DARE YOU TO TRY!!
This was sent to the Repug "representing" me. I'll admit I was a bit rude, but you should have read the one I sent to Sen Reid!
I've had it. If the Nov elections don't produce a Dem majority with a backbone, I WIll find someplace else to live. This is just way too scary for an old guy like me.
Canada........Have some nice golf courses? :)
JFM USAF, RET
I truly remember General Hayden commenting in a press conference "the echelon program is an urban legend!" Somebody needs to put this to all those going around saying it exists... Somebody/bodies are lying out their backsides.
What's to stop these criminals from using call records (or listening to phone calls) of their political rivals? How can we be certain that Bush & Co aren't spying on the Democrats using this system?
I got into a political type chat with a guy that works for a comapny that my company does business with.......
It started off ok........we both agreed that Bush is bad for America and her future......
We agreed that right-wing hardliners are very bad for the moral fabric of America.......
Then......we got into chatting about one of our state senators.....Dick Durbin........
I said that he is doing an ok job for Illinois.......he said that Durbin is a communist.......
At that point I knew that this either was going to get ugly or I'll just walk away.......but I had to ask him way he thought this.......
It seems that he thinks that any infringment of his 2nd amendment right makes a politician a communist!!
Whoa.......so I asked.......so what does that say about Bush's infringing on your 1st (USAPATRIOT Act), 4th (USAPATRIOT Act), 5th (USAPATRIOT Act), and 9th (USAPATRIOT Act) amendent rights......
He got a sour look on his face and said that he had to get back to work..........
I now wonder.........as much of a right it is to own and bear arms........ what good is that if you have no right to speak your mind! Or if the government came in after you and took your guns away! Or didn't allow you the right to a fair and impartial trial!
All in the name of National Security and the aptly named War on Terror..... What good are your guns then??
Ok.....so this story has no direct bearing with this particular thread....... but in some quirky way.....it does..........if you think about it!!
"The NSA has access only to Americans' phone numbers and call records -- not names, addresses or other identifying information"
If for some reason they didn't have access to Lexis-Nexis, they could find almost all of this out anyway with a simple Google search.
"Could have prevented 9/11"
Just how exactly, with only numbers and no personal data or voice recordings at all? Oops, their lies are showing...
So, NOW the Bush Administration is saying that it's compiling everybody's conversations, but that they won't be listened to UNLESS they are snared by a "keyword search".
What kind of words are they looking for? Probably terrorist, dirty bomb, must take action, weapon of mass destruction, etc. Words related to terrorism.
So, WHO will these scans uncover? To be sure, a major telephonic discusser of such issues will be POLITICIANS. When Kennedy calls Biden, they will probably discuss the war, terrorism, and other related issues. The "screen" will pop out their conversation as "containing the 'suspicious' key words."
How many out there believe Karl Rove would be uninterested in a private conversation between Kennedy and Biden? Or any other Democrats discussing security issues? These conversations will be automatically snared by the "key word" program, and in secret, with no "oversight" as to who is listened to, and who will be USING that information.
Bush says we should just TRUST him. And Tricky Dick Nixon claimed "I am not a crook."
The people who will NOT be using "key words"? The same ones who learned long ago to speak in "code". Instead of "when will you be delivering the bomb", they will say, "when will you be delivering the PACKAGE." The mob, criminals, and terrorists know better than to use actual terms for things when on a communication device.
But POLITICIANS? They will use the proper terms, and so will be "caught" by the NSA snare, even while any terrorists will skate.
[of course, the geniuses in the Bush "anti-terror" squad could INCLUDE the word "package" as a red-flag raiser, as "code" for something sinister. If so, they will spend many thousands of hours reviewing the phone logs of FedEx, and UPS, and the U.S. Postal Service. LOL. ]
.....nobody called Rep. Curt Weldon a terrorist sympathizer when he pressed so hard on "outing" the pentagon's data mining "Able Danger" program.
"Able Danger" has pretty much dropped off the map, hasn't it?
the crumbling will start. The RNC knows that for they are not sending me any pictures of Bush-Cheney anymore. I got scrubbed...........hehehehehehe
Folks.
I know it's comforting to think that the Democrats are going to save the day and give us back our precious liberties... but it is clear they are just as eager to see our civil liberties dissappear... most of them supported the Patriot Act, the Echelon program is/was for real and spying on US citizens of this kind has been going on LONG before 9/11 happened and that includes during all the Clinton years. Media Matters is wrong to try to underplay the seriousness and illegality of the Echelon program and give the Dems a pass on what is a bi-partisan attempt to control and contain the fine people of this country.
Before the September 11, 2001 attacks and the legislation which followed it, US intelligence agencies were generally prohibited from spying on people inside the US and other western countries' intelligence services generally faced similar restrictions within their own countries. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Echelon is TOTALLY different.
This website is supposed to expose right wing misinformation and hypocrisy, correct? Reason #5 states that many experts disagree with the statements that the NSA program was legal and lists Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies, James Dempsey of the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology, and Georgetown University law professor David Cole as those experts. Well, first, the Center for National Security Studies has a documented liberal view and so its director, Kate Martin, would no doubt try to advance that view. James Dempsey, before working with the Center for Democracy and Technology, was Deputy Director of Kate Martin’s Center for National Security Studies. And David Cole, besides being a law professor, is legal affairs correspondent for the liberal 'The Nation' magazine and also coauthored a book with the aforementioned James Dempsey on civil liberties. Wait, there's more! Kate Martin's Center for National Security Studies co wrote an agenda for reform with the liberal Center for American Progress and none other than, again, James Dempsey's organization, the Center for Democracy and Technology! Confused yet?! As can be seen, the 3 so called independent experts Media Matters puts forth as disagreeing with the NSA program are all affiliated with one another and have blatantly liberal viewpoints- hardly fair and balanced. Media Matters should be ashamed of this miserable attempt to push its agenda. It is no better than the right wing media it tries to demonize!!
They were three examples. Do you not think there are others of all political stripes that feel the same way? You assume because someone is a liberal that their legal opinion is somehow automatically biased? What does that mean? Only people with no political opinion at all can give expert opinion on legal matters? Poppycock.
is there any way of finding out how much the telco companies were paid by NSA per annum for the contract. also how the telcos accounted for the revenue before the state authorities that regulate rates. thank you
is a right not something that the current fascist in office can control....unless we let him and we are letting him.
That is how we lose our freedoms ...one itty bitty piece at a time
that Sean Hannity is referring to. He makes it sound like he is right there with the rest of the NSA as they go through these phone records. What the heck does he know about this other than what he is told to believe he knows.
If you want to know the truth, just believe the opposite of whatever words come out of Bush's mouth