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June 27, 2006 7:45 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Bill O'Reilly railed against The New York Times' disclosure of a secret Bush administration program designed to monitor international financial transactions, falsely claiming that "by all accounts" the program is "entirely legal" and that "[n]obody is asserting that they [the Bush administration] overstepped their authority." Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter similarly asserted that "no one thinks" the program "violates any laws." In fact, some legal experts and politicians have indeed questioned the legality of the newly disclosed program.

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On the June 26 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly railed against The New York Times' disclosure of a secret Bush administration program designed to monitor international financial transactions, falsely claiming that "by all accounts" the program is "entirely legal" and that "[n]obody is asserting that they [the Bush administration] overstepped their authority." Additionally, during the same day's broadcast of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter similarly asserted that "no one thinks" the program "violates any laws." In fact, some legal experts and politicians have indeed questioned the legality of the newly disclosed program.

During an interview with Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA), O'Reilly also falsely claimed that "nobody is asserting" that administration officials "did not" obtain subpoenas for the international bank records from a federal judge, an assertion that Markey challenged. In fact, it appears to be only O'Reilly who is asserting that the Bush administration did obtain subpoenas from a judge. News reports and administration officials have confirmed that the program relies on "administrative subpoenas," which are issued by executive branch agencies without a court's authorization.

On June 23, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and The Wall Street Journal (subscription required) all published articles disclosing a secret Bush administration program designed to monitor international financial transactions. The classified program, according to the reports, began as a response to the September 11, 2001 terror attacks for the purpose of aiding law enforcement with tracking down terrorist operatives by monitoring their financial activity. It is reportedly run by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and overseen by the Treasury Department. As the Los Angeles Times reported:

Treasury routinely acquires information about bank transfers from the world's largest financial communication network, which is run by a consortium of financial institutions called the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT.

The SWIFT network carries up to 12.7 million messages a day containing instructions on many of the international transfers of money between banks. The messages typically include the names and account numbers of bank customers -- from U.S. citizens to major corporations -- who are sending or receiving funds.

Through the program, Treasury has built an enormous -- and ever-growing -- repository of financial records drawn from what is essentially the central nervous system of international banking.

Yet, contrary to O'Reilly's claim, Treasury officials did not seek court approved subpoenas to gain access to SWIFT's data. Instead, the officials reportedly used administrative subpoenas which, as the L.A. Times noted, "are secret and not reviewed by judges or grand juries, as are most criminal subpoenas." From the L.A. Times:

In a major departure from traditional methods of obtaining financial records, the Treasury Department uses a little-known power -- administrative subpoenas -- to collect data from the SWIFT network, which has operations in the U.S., including a main computer hub in Manassas, Va. The subpoenas are secret and not reviewed by judges or grand juries, as are most criminal subpoenas.

In a press conference in the wake of initial reports on the program, Treasury Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Stuart Levey stated: "The legal basis for the subpoena we issue is routine and absolutely clear. The International Emergency Economic Powers Act ... allows us to issue administrative subpoenas for financial records." The International Emergency Economic Powers Act was passed in 1977 and reauthorized in 2001.

Additionally, contrary to assertions by O'Reilly and Coulter that no one is denying the legality of the program, several experts have raised questions about whether the program follows proper legal procedures. O'Reilly specifically claimed that "[T]he New York Times isn't asserting that" Bush administration officials "overstepped their authority" or that the program was illegal. In fact, the New York Times article in question did note that some have questioned the legality of the program. For instance, The New York Times reported that L. Richard Fischer, "a Washington lawyer who wrote a book on banking privacy and is regarded as a leading expert in the field," expressed concerns about the program:

Such a program, he [Fischer] said, appears to do an end run around bank-privacy laws that generally require the government to show that the records of a particular person or group are relevant to an investigation.

''There has to be some due process,'' Mr. Fischer said. ''At an absolute minimum, it strikes me as inappropriate.''

The New York Times also reported that SWIFT executives were "[w]orried about potential legal liability" and threatened to shut down the program, relenting "only after top officials, including Alan Greenspan, then chairman of the Federal Reserve, intervened." Moreover, the administration itself debated over legal issues surrounding the program, according to The New York Times:

But at the outset of the operation, Treasury and Justice Department lawyers debated whether the program had to comply with such laws before concluding that it did not, people with knowledge of the debate said. Several outside banking experts, however, say that financial privacy laws are murky and sometimes contradictory and that the program raises difficult legal and public policy questions.

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Because Swift is based overseas and has offices in the United States, it is governed by European and American laws. Several international regulations and policies impose privacy restrictions on companies that are generally regarded as more stringent than those in this country. United States law establishes some protections for the privacy of Americans' financial data, but they are not ironclad. A 1978 measure, the Right to Financial Privacy Act, has a limited scope and a number of exceptions, and its role in national security cases remains largely untested.

Several people familiar with the Swift program said they believed that they were exploiting a ''gray area'' in the law and that a case could be made for restricting the government's access to the records on Fourth Amendment and statutory grounds. They also worried about the impact on Swift if the program were disclosed.

A June 24 New York Times report also noted Sen. Arlen Specter's (R-PA) concerns over the legality of the program:

Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he had sent letters on Friday to both Treasury Secretary John W. Snow and Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales on the issue. While he declined to release the letters, he said he was concerned about the legal authority for the operation.

Mr. Specter has been at odds with the administration over another previously secret counterterrorism operation, the National Security Agency's domestic eavesdropping program. The senator said he was particularly troubled that the administration had expanded its Congressional briefings on the financial tracking program in recent weeks after having learned that The New York Times was making inquiries.

''Why does it take a newspaper investigation to get them to comply with the law?'' the senator asked. ''That's a big, important point.''

Moreover, numerous organizations and individuals -- including some from the Treasury Department -- have raised objections concerning a lack of oversight of the program. As the Los Angeles Times reported: "Critics complain that these efforts are not subject to independent governmental reviews designed to prevent abuse, and charge that they collide with privacy and consumer protection laws in the United States." Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, told the L.A. Times: "It boils down to a question of oversight, both internal and external. And in the current circumstances, it is hard to have confidence in the efficacy of their oversight. Their policy is, 'Trust us,' and that may not be good enough anymore." Additionally, the L.A. Times reported that at least one former Treasury department official familiar with the program, "expressed concern" over the program:

A former senior Treasury official expressed concern that the SWIFT program allows access to vast quantities of sensitive data that could be abused without safeguards. The official, who said he did not have independent knowledge of the program, questioned what becomes of the data, some of it presumably related to innocent banking customers.

"How do you separate the wheat from the chaff?" the former official said. "And what do you do with the chaff?"

From the June 26 edition of Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: Bush is the big threat. Terrorists in rogue nations line up after him. Now, that kind of extreme thinking --based on little evidence, by the way -- is putting all Americans in danger. There's not one valid reason to expose a covert operation -- by all accounts entirely legal -- designed to track money going to terrorists. The New York Times may have reached the tipping point. The paper is chock full of far-left columnists, and now its news pages could be damaging national security. So what should be done?

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MARKEY: Well, actually, that was the same argument that the Bush administration made about wiretapping Americans, that they didn't have to go to a judge in order to get a court order to be able to do it. Well, they're using the same argument here. That's the big news. The big news is that the Bush administration is going to trust Booz Allen, an auditing firm, to determine whether or not Americans' constitutional rights are being protected, and not the federal courts. And this Fourth Amendment question keeps surfacing, whether it be looking at emails, looking at telephone records, or here, looking at financial records.

O'REILLY: But nobody here asserts any kind of illegality because there were subpoenas issued, and everybody knows that. And in the NSA situation, I understand you guys in Congress are going to pass a law allowing the president to continue the program. Is that not the truth?

MARKEY: Well, look at -- there were no subpoenas that were issued pursuant to a federal court order. The Bush administration put out their own subpoenas, never told the courts about it at all. That is a very serious Fourth Amendment violation.

O'REILLY: So let me get this straight, though --

MARKEY: And you can't --

O'REILLY: You think that the Bush administration violated federal law in monitoring wire transfers from the Belgian concern? Is that what you're saying?

MARKEY: There's no debate between Democrats and Republicans or any American on whether or not we want the president of the United States to be as aggressive as possible in putting Al Qaeda out of business. This debate is over whether or not the Bush administration has to go to a federal judge in order to get authorization to go through millions of financial transactions, and not have any --

O'REILLY: Whoa, whoa, but nobody is asserting they did not do that. They got the legal papers.

MARKEY: No, they did not.

O'REILLY: Listen, this is overseas. Remember, that's not a United States bank. It's a concern in Belgium.

MARKEY: But -- All right. But how would you feel, Bill? How would you feel if the French government went to this company, SWIFT, and said they have concerns about security in their country, they would like access to all of those financial records? You would be absolutely wild if the French were able to do that. There have to be rules. There have to be guidelines. There has to be a process.

O'REILLY: OK, but the Bush administration went through the international guidelines. Nobody is asserting that they overstepped their authority. The New York Times isn't asserting that. They printed it --it outed a covert program on a theoretical argument that maybe, could be, they might be doing something to water down our protections. Come on, Congressman. Look, you know as well as I do that if there was provable wrongdoing, that would have been the headline in The New York Times. And the article went out of its way to say, as you read it, I'm sure, there was no illegality here. So what are you putting forth tonight? That -- I don't get it.

MARKEY: The big news that The New York Times broke is that the Bush administration has not gone to a federal court under the Fourth Amendment in order to gain a court order to go after the --

O'REILLY: They don't have to.

MARKEY: They do have to.

O'REILLY: No, then they would have broken the law.

MARKEY: It's also a violation of the Financial Privacy Act of 1978.

O'REILLY: It's in Belgium.

MARKEY: What they're saying is that when the money goes from one bank to another bank, as it goes through SWIFT, that none of these laws or protections apply. It's like saying that when the money is taken from one bank to another bank, when it's inside the Brinks truck --

From the June 26 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country:

COULTER: [R]evealing a classified program, which no one thinks violates any laws, no abuse of power, it's a third-party administrator of these transactions, that has led to from suspected terrorists going and, you know, money laundering, that has led to the capture of various terrorists, and to various terrorist money-laundering operations. If that is not treason, then we're not prosecuting anymore.

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    • Author by open_mind (June 27, 2006 8:10 pm ET)
         

      It is apparent that the Bush Administration has developed an allergy to warrants of any kind. Private auditors will do just as well as a judge despite what that pesky Constitution thingy says.

      Who can argue against an employment program for all of those trustworthy unemployed Enron auditors that need jobs, too?

      Plus, if auditors don't like what we're doing, we can just fire the slackers and get more auditors who will be better at rubber-stamping things.

      All of us conservative brainiacs think this stuff is great and when the Democrats take over the executive?...No worries. We will just declare that the "War on Turr" is simply over and surprise! We won! Thanks to George (puts hand over heart) W. Bush (wipes away tear). So the Dems can't (ab)use these weapons....er programs against their political enemies. Not that WE would ever do such a thing.

      U-S-A! U-S-A! God Bless America! Puppies! Apple pie! Baseball!

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      • Author by lostlogic (June 27, 2006 11:32 pm ET)
           

        I don’t understand why so many don’t get it. It is not that we don’t want them to have the necessary “tools”. We just want them to go through the proper checks and balances and oversight. This administration is walking all over the very foundations of our democratic system and the Right seems to think that is ok.

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    • Author by snoopy (June 27, 2006 9:31 pm ET)
         

      "[n]obody is asserting that they [the Bush administration] overstepped their authority." Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter similarly asserted that "no one thinks" the program "violates any laws."

      So basically, half the country are nothing more than subhuman illiterates who don't deserve the right to an opinion. Just like a friend I have, who always opines that if only landowners had the right to vote we would always vote republican. Our opinion doesn't count.

      However, on the bright side, I'm looking forward to payback. Let's see what they do after 8 years of being ignored.

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    • Author by fawltylogic (June 27, 2006 10:53 pm ET)
         

      Except for tax hikes, that is. I wonder if they feel that Americans have any right to court oversight of the government, or that Americans have any right to privacy?

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      • Author by fawltylogic (June 28, 2006 12:05 am ET)
           

        Apparently, O'Reilly feels that when the customs search the medicine bag of a well-known convicted drug-addict and find a prescription drug that is not made out in the junkie's name, that's where he starts protesting.

        His defense of poor Rush (apparently, O'Reilly thinks that Palm Beach county is out to get Rush, and somehow colluded with the federal government to make sure the customs agents would embarrass Rush) was heartwarming.

        I could see why Rush didn't want people to know that he brought viagra to the Dominican Republic though.

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        • Author by mescal (June 28, 2006 2:12 am ET)
             

          only confirm what I've long supected of him... that he's a hardened criminal.

          Sorr, but someone HAD to say it>

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          • Author by dougsomers (June 28, 2006 8:58 am ET)
               

            for LimpBaugh! Isn't it amazing that when a Neocon is involved with legal action, it is always suppression and predujice. When a Dem runs afoul of the law, it is Law and Order In Action!

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        • Author by open_mind (June 28, 2006 7:44 am ET)
             

          Does anyone find it ironic that Limbaugh's supposed effort to protect his privacy (by getting his prescriptions in someone else's name), directly led to the public disclosure that it was actually his Viagra?

          I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the customs conversation.

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    • Author by pjcarter (June 27, 2006 10:57 pm ET)
         

      that O'Reilly forgot that Markey pretty much questioned the legality of examining those bank transactions just the night before.

      I long for the day when we can wage this "war on a tactic" the right way. And that's by playing by the rules, cooperating with our allies and working under the guidelines of international law.

      Oh. One other thing. I'm sure the powers that be have the ability to physically track the other side of a bank transaction, or a phone call for that matter. If that's the case, why haven't we caught anyone? Is Bin Laden just so 2002 he doesn't matter?

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      • Author by dougsomers (June 28, 2006 9:01 am ET)
           

        has too much business with the Bin Laden Family, so Osama is on reprieve!

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    • Author by organized_chaos (June 28, 2006 3:18 am ET)
         

      Haven't these two publicly opened the door for, if nothing else, media investigations into Fourth Amendment violations?

      O'Reilly, especially, makes such outrageous generalizations, the tone of which make them sound as if they were facts. I don't for a second believe this guy is stupid. He's throwing the gauntlet down, challenging somebody to prove him wrong.

      Right?

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    • Author by kid_dynamo (June 28, 2006 8:48 am ET)
         

      The NYT did not question the legality of the program, and they were unable to present someone that could say, outside a sphere of ambiguity, that it was illegal. The quote:

      "Several outside banking experts, however, say that financial privacy laws are murky and sometimes contradictory and that the program raises difficult legal and public policy questions."

      It seems that the problem here is that the law itself is unsatisfactory, and allows this sort of program to exsist in its current state(which is fairly news worthy).

      Unlike the wire tapping, which presented a clear case of illegal activity by the government(even if it was for a good reason), there does not appear to be any illegal activity here.

      And, as Bill said, no one is saying there is. Not even MMFA. And by no one, I'm sure that was in reference to the NYT and company. As the story progresses, I'm sure this will fall on the laundry list of 'peachable actions. But, in reality, they're clear on this one.

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      • Author by open_mind (June 28, 2006 9:27 am ET)
           

        Is it okay to search through an American citizen's bank records (national or international) apparently without a bench warrant?

        Are you comfortable that a private auditor is the only apparent check on this system? Who tells the private auditors what is an acceptible search and what isn't. Is there a paper trail that can be examined by Congress in its oversight capacity?

        There are some pretty basic Constitutional questions here and just saying the law is murky (according to "bank experts") and accepting the administration's legal view is not a sufficient basis to conclude no law has been broken here or there are no legal questions.

        Fischer cites some questions of his own in the article:

        But L. Richard Fischer, a Washington lawyer who wrote a book on banking privacy and is regarded as a leading expert in the field, said he was troubled that the Treasury Department would use broad subpoenas to demand large volumes of financial records for analysis. Such a program, he said, appears to do an end run around bank-privacy laws that generally require the government to show that the records of a particular person or group are relevant to an investigation.

        "There has to be some due process," Mr. Fischer said. "At an absolute minimum, it strikes me as inappropriate."

        We still do not know a lot of the details about this program. To say it looks legal or illegal may be premature until more information is known. Saying that no one is questioning the legality is not only incorrect, but also a moot point on O'Reilly's part. There are simply too many unknowns to say difinitively one way or the other at this point, but there are definite questions in need of answering.

        The NY Times was right to print this story. It is something that needs public scrutiny and much further investigation.

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    • Author by leatherhelmet (June 28, 2006 9:30 am ET)
         

      "financial institution" means any office of a bank, savings bank, card issuer as defined in section 1602(n) of title 15, industrial loan company, trust company, savings association, building and loan, or homestead association (including cooperative banks), credit union, or consumer finance institution, located in any State or territory of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, or the Virgin Islands;"

      This law does not apply, it is limited to U.S. territories, not foreign territories.

      This accusation is a joke. It is tme for the NY Times to pay a price for treason.

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      • Author by open_mind (June 28, 2006 11:13 am ET)
           

        "This accusation is a joke. It is tme for the NY Times to pay a price for treason. " -- LH.

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        What accusation. The article made no accusations. Did you read the story?

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        Where exactly do some of these bank account numbers come from? Getting the information on transactions to or from US bank accounts from a foreign source looks like a way to make an end run around the 1978 law.

        The bank account numbers and customer information referenced are still US banks and financial institutions (covered by the 1978 law) in thousands of the searches conducted. I am not sure, using a messaging service to find out this information is a viable excuse. At least without due process of some kind.

        You may be right that this may not be interpreted by some as violating the letter of the law, but it may have violated the intent of the law, which was to require due process procedures and oversight in searching for US bank account information. Even if the 1978 law, in the end, isn't applicable, there are definite Fourth Amendment protections that are now in question.

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        • Author by leatherhelmet (June 28, 2006 1:10 pm ET)
             

          MARKEY: It's also a violation of the Financial Privacy Act of 1978.

          O'REILLY: It's in Belgium

          You must have missed it when you read the article.

          The best the NY Times could come up with is someone saying the laws were "murky".

          The best MMFA could come up with is a baseless accusation that it violated the Financial Privacy Act of 1978, which O'Reilly quickly shot down by pointing out the act does not apply to foreign financial institutions.

          The Times' has an agenda and doesn't care if it kills troops or citizens. I guess they feel they can take the risk that it won't kill subscribers since their base is dwindling so low.

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          • Author by open_mind (June 28, 2006 5:57 pm ET)
               

            "The best the NY Times could come up with is someone saying the laws were "murky". " --LeatherHelmet

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            No. The NYT provided this as well:

            But L. Richard Fischer, a Washington lawyer who wrote a book on banking privacy and is regarded as a leading expert in the field, said he was troubled that the Treasury Department would use broad subpoenas to demand large volumes of financial records for analysis. Such a program, he said, appears to do an end run around bank-privacy laws that generally require the government to show that the records of a particular person or group are relevant to an investigation.

            "There has to be some due process," Mr. Fischer said. "At an absolute minimum, it strikes me as inappropriate."

            You must have missed it when you read the article.

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            "The best MMFA could come up with is a baseless accusation that it violated the Financial Privacy Act of 1978, which O'Reilly quickly shot down by pointing out the act does not apply to foreign financial institutions." --Leather Helmet

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            Where did MMFA make an "accusation"? --open_mind

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            "the Treasury Department uses a little-known power -- administrative subpoenas -- to collect data from the SWIFT network, which has operations in the U.S., including a main computer hub in Manassas, Va." -- LA Times

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            Where exactly in Belgium IS Manassas, Va. anyway? --open_mind

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      • Author by mrkite116182 (June 28, 2006 1:44 pm ET)
           

        This accusation is a joke. It is tme for the NY Times to pay a price for treason. - leatherhelmet / Wednesday June 28, 2006 09:30:58 AM EST -

        You're a bit slow on the uptake, even by brain-dead bush leaguer standards. That moment was a couple of years ago when they unquestioningly printed judy miller's stenographic efforts on behalf of the white house's wmd/ iraqi scare campaign and their "Lies to start wars by." Of course, sitting on the domestic wiretap story for a year and a half, thereby tampering with an election in the process was, right up there with it.

        Then again, being a supporter of this administration, you've made your objections to treason, perjury and obstruction of justice quite clear as well as your level of patriotism.

        You have none.

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    • Author by nerzog (June 28, 2006 10:05 am ET)
         

      We are seeing the Right Wing conspiracy bearing fruit now. We are on the cusp of history, much as the Germans in 1933 or Russians in 1917. The trend is unmistakable.

      The Conservatives seem to think that Americans have too many freedoms, even as our troops are dying in Iraq, supposedly to defend those very freedoms.

      Their president is ignoring the law, they are in a full court press to appoint regressive judges to the bench, they seek to impose criminal status on the few press organizations still willing to point out their crimes, they blatantly lie about what their political opponents say (i.e. John Murtha) and get away with it, they are doing their best to dismantle the social safety net and move the tax burden downward, and they have contaminated the press with their own propagandists to the point that we can no longer trust the news.

      Is it just me, or does this really suck?

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      • Author by fawltylogic (June 28, 2006 12:13 pm ET)
           

        ..and I agree with you about Germany 1933.

        This administration are not Nazis - there is no comparison to the campaign against jews that the NSDAP mounted, and the administration's policies are not particularly similar to nationalsozialism.

        But there are similarities in that they both use fascist means and symbols to win over the public. If you look at Germany in 1933 and disregard the core politics, you'll see a lot of the same stuff that is going on in rightwing America right now: the celebration of anti-intellectualism, the worship of the military, increased patriotism, perceived wrongs done against the nation by other nations (see the "jokes" about France and the UN), the labeling of dissidents as traitors or enemies, the desire to find scapegoats for everything (right now it's apparently immigrants and gays... hmm... where have I seen that before?), loss of "checks and balances" in government... the list goes on, and it is depressing how closely Germany of 1933 and the US of 2006 match.

        Of course, even with the qualifiers I wrote in the beginning, some right-winger will just ignore it since I compared to the Nazis. But the signs are there.

        I can only hope that the upcoming election helps turn the tide. Many true conservatives (not right-wing populists) have for quite a while now pointed out that this government is conservative in name only, and (though for different reasons, but at least ideologically honest) would rather see a democratic victory in this fall's election, so this government could be reigned in. That's a good sign...

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    • Author by mrkite116182 (June 28, 2006 1:55 pm ET)
         

      The Times' has an agenda and doesn't care if it kills troops or citizens. I guess they feel they can take the risk that it won't kill subscribers since their base is dwindling so low.

      - leatherhelmet / Wednesday June 28, 2006 01:10:01 PM EST

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      And the horsebrithume just gets deeper and deeper.

      The only ones responsible for the death of US Soldiers in Iraq is this lying scum administration and the, unpatriotic, ignorant trash that supports it.

      No them, no al bushira, no rupert's rubbish from the ny post, no dead US Soldiers.

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    • Author by Biased Statistician (June 28, 2006 2:17 pm ET)
         

      that the administration has a comprehensive strategy to tap any information source on the planet and is quite willing to pay major corporations for their data.

      Phone, email, internet, postal mail are just the begining. Of course, they are tapping into every sort of financial transaction. We should not be surprized when we learn that there are programs monitoring our medical records, pharmacy purchases, air line tickets, gas station purchases, cell phone location records, you name it. The cover story for all of this is to "fight terrorism."

      And there may be some truth to that--not that mining all that data is likely to surface unsuspected terrorists, but that terrorist should be careful not to leave any sort of electronic footprint. If that is in fact the strategy, then of course the administration wants these "covert" programs to be revealed. They want the terrorists to know that they are being watched.

      But it is equally true that such programs are a political liability, so the planning of leaks must be well-considered. Shifting the blame to the "liberal" media and Democrats is one tactic for leaking the news with minimal political damage to the administration, perhaps even netting a PR win for Republicans against liberals.

      Even when liberals cry foul against the erosion of privicy rights and constitutional checks and balances, it may only add to the noise and may well divert our attention from what is really going on.

      Bottom line: the administration is "buying" data, funnelling covert sums of money directly to major corporations and the individuals who run them. ROI.

      Corporatism is the end of both a democracy and a free market.

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    • Author by mrkite116182 (June 28, 2006 2:40 pm ET)
         

      The Times' has an agenda and doesn't care if it kills troops or citizens. I guess they feel they can take the risk that it won't kill subscribers since their base is dwindling so low.

      - leatherhelmet / Wednesday June 28, 2006 01:10:01 PM EST

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      And the horsebrithume just gets deeper and deeper.

      The only ones responsible for the death of US Soldiers in Iraq is this lying scum administration and the, unpatriotic, ignorant trash that supports it.

      No them, no al bushira, no rupert's rubbish from the ny post, no dead US Soldiers.

      Their deaths are on shrub.

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    • Author by mrkite116182 (June 28, 2006 2:46 pm ET)
         

      Great post

      I don’t understand why so many don’t get it. It is not that we don’t want them to have the necessary “tools”. We just want them to go through the proper checks and balances and oversight. This administration is walking all over the very foundations of our democratic system and the Right seems to think that is ok.

      - lostlogic

      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stop the presses. I'm shocked, shocked.

      It's a photo finish between ignorance and dishonesty.

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