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Conservative media silent on prior publication of leaks favorable to White House

June 30, 2006 9:07 pm ET

SUMMARY: Following reports describing a Treasury Department program designed to track the financial activity of terrorist organizations, the Bush White House and its supporters in the media decried the leakers for divulging classified information and attacked the press for publishing details of the program. But conservatives were silent when the Bush administration previously disclosed -- and the media reported -- classified information to the press in order to bolster its arguments or discredit its political opponents.

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Following June 23 articles by The New York Times and other newspapers describing a Treasury Department program designed to track the financial activity of terrorist organizations, the Bush White House and its supporters in the media decried the leakers for divulging classified information and attacked the press -- for the most part singling out the Times -- for publishing details of the program. As Media Matters for America noted, numerous conservative media figures advanced the administration's baseless argument that the story tipped off the terrorists to the government's tactics and put Americans at greater risk -- some even going so far as to accuse the Times of "treason."

In the past, however, the Bush administration has seen fit to disclose classified information to the Times and other news outlets in order to bolster its arguments or discredit its political opponents. On those occasions, conservatives -- the very people now vilifying the Times -- were largely silent.

Weapons of mass destruction

In an infamous September 8, 2002, article headlined, "U.S. Says Hussein Intensifies Quest for A-Bomb Parts," New York Times reporters Judith Miller and Michael R. Gordon relied on leaked classified intelligence to report that "Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb." The article, which coincided with the Bush administration's intensified efforts to portray Iraq as a growing threat, detailed Saddam Hussein's efforts to purchase "specially designed aluminum tubes" purportedly intended as centrifuges to enrich uranium. The now-discredited allegations that the tubes represented evidence of Saddam's revived nuclear weapons program were attributed to anonymous "administration officials" as well as an unnamed Iraqi defector.

Knight Ridder staff writer Jonathan Landay noted in an October 25, 2005, article that Miller and Gordon's article "reinforced the Bush administration's charge that the United States couldn't wait for proof that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons." Landay further reported that the Times article gave administration officials "an opportunity to discuss the matter the same day on the Sunday television talk shows. They could discuss the article, but otherwise they wouldn't have been able to talk about classified intelligence in public."

Indeed, the day of the article's publication, Vice President Dick Cheney appeared on NBC's Meet the Press and rather than condemn the Times' publication of classified intelligence -- as he's done in the case of the bank-tracking story -- he touted Miller and Gordon's reporting on the aluminum tubes. Cheney said, "There's a story in The New York Times this morning ... and I want to attribute the Times. I don't want to talk about, obviously, specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that, in fact, he has been seeking to acquire ... the kind of tubes that are necessary to build a centrifuge." On the September 8 edition of CNN's Late Edition, then-National Security adviser Condoleezza Rice echoed Cheney, asserting that Iraq had obtained "high quality aluminum tubes that are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs."

In December 2005, Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) and the House Judiciary Committee Democratic staff released a report that, in part, examined the White House's use of selectively leaked classified information in making its case for invading Iraq. The report pointed to the aluminum tubes article as an example of how "classified intelligence information supporting the Bush Administration's position ... was leaked to the press." The report further noted that "administration officials appear to have leaked classified information to the press well before the New York Times article," citing a July 29, 2002, Washington Times article headlined "Iraq Seeks Steel for Nukes." This article similarly reported that Iraq had attempted to purchase components for uranium enrichment, citing "administration officials familiar with intelligence reports."

But rather than decry the administration's leaking of classified information, conservative media touted the Times' aluminum tubes article as further evidence of the threat posed by Saddam. For instance, The Weekly Standard -- which has featured numerous articles lambasting the Times for the bank-tracking story (here, here and here) -- published a September 23, 2002, piece titled "Tubes of Mass Destruction" by Washington Institute for Near East Policy adjunct scholar Simon Henderson. The Standard article noted the Times report as evidence that "the Bush administration has started lobbing missiles at hardline liberals ever unconvinced about the threat Saddam Hussein poses to his region and the world. The administration's game presumably is to make these diehards change their minds and to win over skeptical members of the public." Henderson went on to note that "[h]aving leaked the story, the administration ran with it," citing Cheney's Meet the Press appearance.

The Plame leak

The disclosure to the press of former CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity represents another example of the Bush administration's leaking of classified information to serve its own purposes. In a July 6, 2003, op-ed, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV challenged one of the White House's central justifications for war with Iraq -- that Saddam had attempted to purchase uranium from Niger. In a subsequent effort to discredit Wilson, White House senior advisor Karl Rove and Cheney's chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby informed several Washington reporters -- including The New York Times' Miller --that Plame, Wilson's wife, worked at the CIA. Robert D. Novak went on to publish this fact in his July 14, 2003, syndicated column. Soon after, the CIA requested that the Justice Department investigate the leak. As special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has acknowledged in his ongoing probe, Plame's employment at the CIA was classified at the time of its disclosure.

The leaking of Plame's CIA identity inflamed many Democrats and former intelligence officials, but denunciations among conservatives of Novak's publication of Plame's identity were nowhere to be found. To the contrary, a February 20, 2004, Wall Street Journal editorial defended Novak by alleging that he "gave the CIA the chance to talk him out of publishing Ms. Plame's name" and that "[i]t still isn't clear that Ms. Plame was really 'under cover' at all." In a July 13, 2005, editorial, the Journal also defended the White House officials involved in the leak, claiming that Rove was "the real 'whistleblower' in this whole sorry pseudo-scandal." But following the reports on the Treasury Department program, the Journal criticized the Times disclosure of classified information in a June 30 editorial, saying that the paper "believes the U.S. is not really at war." Similarly, Fox News host John Gibson said on July 12, 2005, that Rove should be given "a medal" for outing Plame and added that she "should have been outed by somebody." On the June 24 edition of Fox News' The Big Story, however, Gibson assailed the Times for "revealing secrets" and "undermining our national security."

Woodward's books

Since Bush took office in 2001, Washington Post assistant managing editor and author Bob Woodward has written two books chronicling the White House's decision-making during the years following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The first of the books, Bush at War (Simon & Schuster, November 2002), described the year following 9-11, while the second, Plan of Attack (Simon & Schuster, April 2004), focused on the administration's invasion of Iraq. In both cases, the White House granted Woodward access to an extensive amount of classified information, as he indicated in his "Note to Readers" in Bush at War:

The information I obtained for this book includes contemporaneous notes taken during 50 National Security Council and other meetings.

[...]

I have attributed thoughts, conclusions and feelings to the participants. These come from either the person himself, a colleague with direct knowledge of them, or the written record -- both classified and unclassified.

[...]

War planning and war making involve secret information. I have used a good deal of it, trying to provide new specific details without harming sensitive operations or relationships with foreign governments.

That the White House had apparently divulged classified information to Woodward provoked consternation from certain members of Congress, while his unprecedented level of access fueled criticism that Bush at War was "too soft on the president." Questions regarding Woodward's arrangement with the White House persisted following the publication of Plan of Attack. Again, administration officials were "authorized" by Bush to provide Woodward with classified information. In a review of Plan of Attack in the June 7, 2004, issue of The American Prospect, Robert Kuttner, the magazine's co-editor and co-founder, noted Woodward's extensive use of classified material and the "skepticism" surrounding it:

What should arouse immediate skepticism is that Woodward was given full access to the most senior government officials, as well as the most highly classified documents and details of recent military and intelligence operations. This degree of access to still unfolding national-security secrets is unprecedented in the history of any sitting administration. The feeding and co-opting of Woodward must have been the subject of extensive White House strategizing, and it must have been approved from the very top. Woodward's reporting of how Rumsfeld and Franks planned the Iraq War is based on reams of ultra-classified attack memoranda.

Based on interviews with the head of the super-secret National Security Agency (NSA), Woodward discloses that in this war, for the first time, NSA battlefield intercepts are relayed directly to combat troops on the ground. He reveals verbatim accounts of highly confidential official conversations leading up to the Iraq War between President Bush and Saudi Arabia's ambassador, Prince Bandar, and other ambassadors and heads of state, based on official notes. This is the sort of highly sensitive material ordinarily released to historians after an interval of 50 years, if then. It did not come from some disgruntled GS-14[a reference to a mid-level career civil servant using the civil service pay scale].

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If a less docile reporter -- say, the younger Bob Woodward -- had divulged such state secrets in service of criticism, the administration and its lawyers would have been all over him for disclosing "sources and methods" and recklessly compromising the national security. But Karl Rove evidently concluded that Bush should share these crown jewels with Woodward because the president would come out standing tall.

Kuttner went on to note that while Woodward's book did cause "mild embarrassment to lesser officials ... [o]ne high official in particular comes across looking just terrific. And that is George W. Bush." That the book cast him in a largely favorable light is evidenced by the fact that it was listed as recommended reading on the website of Bush's 2004 re-election campaign.

In a December 2, 2002, review of Bush at War, Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes noted Woodward's "impressive access to ... what went on in the meetings of the National Security Council, the realm of the president, Rice, and [then-deputy national security adviser Stephen] Hadley." He writes that "[t]here's plenty of evidence of Woodward's reporting prowess in 'Bush at War' " and that Woodward "uncovers more things than anyone else in journalism." But in complimenting Woodward's ability to gain intimate access to the administration, Barnes does not address the fact that the administration willingly divulged classified information in the process and that Woodward printed it. By contrast, Barnes has recently heaped scorn on The New York Times' decision to publish the Treasury Department bank-tracking story. Indeed, on the June 29 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, Barnes complained that "you don't just blab secrets" and urged Congress to hold hearings involving the newspaper's editors and "to look into laws covering leaks of classified information."

Al Qaeda-Iraq connection

In an article titled, "Case Closed," in the November 24, 2003, issue of The Weekly Standard, staff writer Stephen F. Hayes reported that the Standard had obtained a "a top secret U.S. government memorandum" proving that "Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003." Not only was the article quickly discredited by Newsweek magazine and others, but it spurred the CIA to request a Justice Department investigation into the leak of the classified memo. Nonetheless, Cheney later touted Hayes's piece as the "best source of information" regarding the purported Iraq-Al Qaeda link pushed by the administration in the run-up to the Iraq war.

Despite the fact that it was the product of a "top secret" leak, numerous conservatives heralded it as evidence supporting the Bush administration's justification for the Iraq war, criticizing the mainstream media for failing to cover the story. For instance, on the December 5, 2003, edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Report, Media Research Center president L. Brent Bozell III said of the memo: "[I]t's explosive because it is justification, unquestionable justification, for having gone to war. You've got so many in the press who have been questioning the reasons for going to war and questioning the ties between -- the alleged ties between Hussein and Al Qaeda that, now, for them not to report the evidence that's out there, makes a mockery of what they've been reporting for the last year." But more than two years later, Bozell responded to The New York Times article on the classified Treasury Department program by accusing the newspaper of "aiding and abetting the terrorist movement ... by divulging these secrets."

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    • Author by tex (July 01, 2006 5:53 am ET)
         

      When Bush leaks, it's patriotic leaking.

      When anyone else leaks, it's treason.

      Why? Because Bush is the Dear Leader. Fealty to HIM is patriotic. Opposition, criticism, or even questioning of Him or His policies is an assault on AMERICA, the TROOPS, and all that is moral, fine, and decent.

      This structure is time-tested and well known: The DIVINE annointing of a Monarch, Who claims the infallibility of GOD HIMSELF.

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      • Author by fools_gold1967 (July 01, 2006 9:22 am ET)
           

        When Bush leaks, it's patriotic leaking.

        Bush CAN'T leak, he and he alone determines what is, and what isn't secret. It's just ONE of the advantages of actually WINNING an election!! I had underestimated you. I thought your confusion was limited to what constitutes a WMD, but I see it is much broader. My apologies...........and sympathies!!

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        • Author by NGOfficer (July 01, 2006 10:26 am ET)
             

          You may want to research the procedures involved with declassification of secrets. This president does not have the authority under Executive Order 12958 (as amended by Dubya) to wave his hand over classified materials and magically declassify them by “leaking” them to the press. This process is detailed in the the above mentioned Executive Order

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        • Author by raskol77 (July 01, 2006 11:00 am ET)
             

          This report on leaks to the press used to support Bush administration policy deals with classified information finding its way into the media WITHOUT being declassified by anyone, including The Decider. That is what we call a leak. Even though the President has the power to classify and declassify as he sees fit (which is what I think you're referring to when you say "Bush can't leak") he cannot turn over classified information without first declassifying it. The incidences reported on in this MMFA article did not include any declassified info.

          Even if Tex refers to them as "Bush leaks" it doesn't mean that Bush himself delivered them to the press. And why would he? Who would want their name attached to the revelation of documents full of doctored intelligence conveniently packaged to further a war-mongering agenda? Obviously only someone whose name is Anonymous Official.

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        • Author by kalentros (July 01, 2006 3:00 pm ET)
             

          for only a fool believes any of the garbage you just spewed.

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        • Author by harley (July 01, 2006 4:34 pm ET)
             

          Oh, how very Nixonian. That same criminal anti-American mindset was what got Dick tossed out. It seems the radical righties always put their party ahead of America. At least it's documented that the radical right will sell out America to save their own face.

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        • Author by ck4829 (July 02, 2006 2:29 pm ET)
             

          This isn't about the administration as much the Conservative Media.

          It's about the Conservative Media which selectively criticizes those who leak confidential data.

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        • Author by PKD (July 02, 2006 5:45 pm ET)
             

          "Bush CAN'T leak, he and he alone determines what is, and what isn't secret."

          Let me give you an analogy. Anything a chef does got to be cooking, right? And that includes - sleeping, driving?

          You got to be listening too much right-wing radio shows where they try to give a notion that WHATVER president does is legal (reminds you infamous Nixon's quote?). No, American system not a dictatorship, but a democracy. And in democracy, everything has a defined procedure, including declassifiying classified documents by President. Please educate yourself before making such comment. Of course Bush did not follow the procedure of declassification, therefore it was NOT declassification. Instead, he secretly passed classified information to media through Libby and others in his administration. Then, SFTER leaking information, he declassified it as an eyewash.

          In 1998, Bush quoted "A dictatorship would be a lot easier... So long as I'm the dictator.". Even though he said it as a joke, but over the years in his presidency, his administration showed that that's the typical mentality they have. They don't care about procedure, laws in democratic system. They are going to do anything as long as it serves their purpose.

          It's shame that right-wingers talk about "spreading democracy", when they hardly cares about democracy in this country.

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    • Author by Souldrift (July 01, 2006 10:31 am ET)
         

      Not only is that a poor argument, but do you think ANYONE believes Repugs wouldn't have NAILED CLINTON'S A$$ if he did that during his administration?

      Come on!

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      • Author by peet (July 01, 2006 1:42 pm ET)
           

        ...is right. He apologizes for Bush. Good for him.

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        • Author by fools_gold1967 (July 02, 2006 7:49 am ET)
             

          I notice in the several counter points to my pointing out of the OBVIOUS, there are really no counter points at all, merely name calling, which is about what I expected.

          Kalentros merely mentions something about "fools" and "garbage" and NO other points.

          Harley's goes off on to a Nixon parrallel, something about anti American and of course the requisite "radical rightie."

          Souldrift of course, brings up Clinton for some unknown reason.

          Peet mentions something about "sucker."

          These aren't compelling arguments folks, merely temper tantrums at the undeniable truth that I pointed out. Bush is the declassifier in Chief, he CANNOT leak because HE and HE alone determines what IS and what ISN'T classified. Now, that's just a hard FACT! If one of you can find some reasonable parallel between Bush as President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, the single person responsible for classifying and declassifying releasing relevant information, and some 3rd class flunky beauraucrat with an agenda LEAKING classified information please point it out. Spare me the name calling. That stopped having any impact on me when I went into 8th grade and that was a long time ago!

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          • Author by tex (July 02, 2006 10:24 am ET)
               

            We are a nation of LAWS. Congress is the LAWMAKER in chief, but they cannot implement LAW without following the proper LEGAL PROCEDURE.

            It's the same for the PRESIDENT. He indeed has vast powers, but they are not unlimited. He cannot do anything he wants. Nixon discovered this, and we also saw the spectacle of the GOP attempting to remove Clinton from office. Our presidents are neither GOD-like nor Monarchs: Their DUTY is to uphold and enforce the CONSTITUTION and all our LAWS.

            Now, as to declassifying, you say: "Bush is the declassifier in Chief, he CANNOT leak because HE and HE alone determines what IS and what ISN'T classified."

            Is this true? To an extent, but not without following the proper LEGAL procedure.

            To LEGALLY declassify, there has to be a review procedure and a WRITTEN EXPLANATION step followed. The Director of the Information Security Oversight Office has to be informed.

            So, EVEN THE PRESIDENT has to follow procedures and LAW, and for very good reasons.

            If Bush followed these procedues ... constructed an written explanation for why the information should no longer be classified, or explaining how the public interest outweighs any possible damage to national security, and the requirement to inform the Director.

            Another procedural step is in the LAW, also for specific reasons: If a document is declassified, then ALL copies of that document must be rounded up, and RESTAMPED with the new classification status. This, by LAW, must take place BEFORE any information from the document is revealed to the public.

            Did Bush make sure THIS was done? No, he did not. He followed NONE of the applicable LAWS.

            [link to www.fas.org]

            [link to www.loyola.edu]

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            • Author by peet (July 02, 2006 12:27 pm ET)
                 

              You are correct. The issue is, in my mind, how 'the most powerful man in the world' adheres to the rules our gov't has set forth... that is, by consensus and for the good of the people. I suppose Fool (above) has a point... which, to me, is the crux of my (and other's) outrage against Bush for his ridiculous signing statements, etc... These guy's have taken the rules (to be applied to an honorable man/president) and run with them... mutated them to the point that they, in fact, have no meaning.

              Of course, Bush can 'declassify' information ... but why? Don't we (the electorate in a 'free' society...a democracy) deserve/demand an answer? A reasonable explanation? As Fool says above, "Bush is King! He can do whatever he wants for his own political gain, without worry about the good of the people" (I'm paraphrasing, of course)

              Now, Fool above will likely claim that Bush's actions were for the good of the people, but that we simply are not privy to his 'secret' reasons for making such bold decisions... Bush is really protecting us and our nat'l security. This is where my label of 'sucker' comes in.

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            • Author by fools_gold1967 (July 03, 2006 6:28 am ET)
                 

              So your problem with this whole affair, and the reason you're all lathered up about it has to do with PAPERWORK!!?? I would question how you know the paperwork wasn't done? Could you provide a link to indicate that the President's paperwork is deficient, or other factual information to indicate the President failed to follow proper PROCEDURE, since we ALL seem to agree he can declassify ANYTHING he wishes. All due respect, your complaint seems somewhat hollow.

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              • Author by Polar (July 03, 2006 8:28 am ET)
                   

                Person A wants to use wmd information for political gain. "A" declassifies document. "A" must provide standing why document was declassified. This defeats the purpose of using it as a tool with anonimity. To connect the dots, if "A" is using this for their gain then you would be able to follow the document to the source.

                Person B wants to use information for political gain. They run the information through normal channels which outlet to the media. "B" thinks there's wmd's somewhere? Everyone gets the info, everyone gets the point. Where'd the information come from? No one knows. Same result with anonimity? Yes.

                Facts don't always match up with plausibility... Thats how the truth is found.

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              • Author by tex (July 03, 2006 9:15 am ET)
                   

                FOOL says, "So your problem with this whole affair, and the reason you're all lathered up about it has to do with PAPERWORK!!??"

                RESPONSE: Exactly. Our Constitution is written on paper. Our LAWS are all written on paper. Without that "paperwork", not a single crime can be prosecuted. Without that "paperwork", we are not a nation. So, yes, I indeed get all "lathered up" about paperwork.

                FOOL continues, "I would question how you know the paperwork wasn't done?"

                RESPONSE: Good point. I would turn that around and ask you how you can KNOW that the Bush Administration is not in league with Al Qaeda to create an environment of FEAR under which American Corporations can sieze the assets of other sovereign nations. See, BUSH keeps such things SECRET. We, the people, cannot know what was said, or even who was present, at Cheney's SECRET energy meetings, so Bin Laden could have been there. We don't know. YOU don't know. So demanding SPECIFICS when you know the perpetrators are keeping all relevant information SECRET from the public is the scam a criminal ALWAYS uses.

                We will learn what procedures were followed as Fitzgerald reveals his prosecution of Libby. At that time, we will learn what, if any, information was properly declassified.

                FOOL says, "Could you provide a link to indicate that the President's paperwork is deficient, or other factual information to indicate the President failed to follow proper PROCEDURE ... "

                RESPONSE: Happy to:

                [link to apnews.myway.com]

                FOOL says, "... since we ALL seem to agree he can declassify ANYTHING he wishes."

                RESPONSE: Yes, he can, but ONLY by following the proper legal procedure. See, the requirement for a WRITTEN explanation brings up checks and balances. The nation may not AGREE with his rationalization for declassification, and can IMPEACH him on that basis. If he keeps his reasons secret, then there ARE no checks and balances; there is only tyranny.

                To be sure, he might BEAT that impeachment, and convince enough legislators and jurists that his reasons were sound ... but he might NOT. So, yes, he can choose to declassify ANYTHING ... but he may do so at the cost of remaining president. That's our system.

                FOOL says, "All due respect, your complaint seems somewhat hollow."

                RESPONSE: Coming from someone who, like the president, considers the Constitution just a "piece of paper", I'm not surprised you dismiss such concerns.

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                • Author by fools_gold1967 (July 03, 2006 3:54 pm ET)
                     

                  "RESPONSE: Exactly. Our Constitution is written on paper. Our LAWS are all written on paper. Without that "paperwork", not a single crime can be prosecuted. Without that "paperwork", we are not a nation. So, yes, I indeed get all "lathered up" about paperwork. "

                  I gotta say that in ALL my years following Presidential politics, I can never recall a prominent issue being the candidates ability to get his paperwork done. Nor have I ever heard a single reporter ask the question of a potential President what his "record" is on his paperwork. I get the DNC talking points everyday via email, and hear from World Can't Wait seemingly on a daily basis about this President's many failures, but I have YET to hear ANYONE, but YOU of course, mention paperwork. But who knows Tex, you might be on to something here, a new Democrat campaign slogan, "Vote for me, I DO MY PAPERWORK! I don't have a CLUE about anything else, but I DO MY PAPERWORK!!" Might as well try it, nothing else seems to work for you guys!

                  Simply brilliant!! /s

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                  • Author by loonz (July 03, 2006 5:18 pm ET)
                       

                    Bush is very fortunate he does not have the Congress Nixon faced. Instead of a Congress that believes in Constitution, the rule of law and oversight, he gets the pleasure of having his own “Bend over and take it” Congress. If there was a different makeup of Congress you would see why paperwork is important and why the president must prove that the information he is declassifying does not to harm national security and why it is in the public’s interest to know the information.

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                  • Author by bigbingtheory (July 03, 2006 5:28 pm ET)
                       

                    Paperwork in this sense means following the correct procedures to ensure there is no abuse of power. It's a matter of the Constitution and law. The point is the President has to go to congress to declassify information. Why? So he doesn't do something that might jeopardize national security or infringe on the rights of the people. A good example of this is the information in the Iraq intelligence estimate he authorized leaking. The proper thing to do would be to call a press conference and announce the information he supposively declassified. He knew the information was dubious, so he decided to leak it so that Judy Miller and the NYTimes would report it as coming from a high level White House source. This was an egregious abuse of power and runs counter the Constitution that Bush swore to protect. Try again.

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                  • Author by PKD (July 03, 2006 7:44 pm ET)
                       

                    "I gotta say that in ALL my years following Presidential politics, I can never recall a prominent issue being the candidates ability to get his paperwork done. Nor have I ever heard a single reporter ask the question of a potential President what his "record" is on his paperwork."

                    America is a nation of law. And following laws means record, document and following correct legal procedures. You may call it "paperwork" and try to portray them as irrelevent, but they are not. Without legal procedures, American would be lawless like many failed states in this world. If you check your daily life, you will notice that your whole life involves so-called "paperworks"? If you are accused of something and taken into court, why not just sit as home and declare yourself as "innocent" (which mean not following legal procedure)? Why do you need to go to court and declare yourself innocent and do all the "paperworks"? So the question is, if you need to follow YOUR legal procedure, why not President follow HIS legal procedure? Bottomlime, just like you, President cannot skip legal procedures.

                    Our forefathers built this land of law for more than 250 years. Now you are refuting their achievement by calling it "paperworks". What could be more un-American than that?

                    Actually, in Presidential politics many raised issues were sillier than candidate's ability to follow legal procedure ("paperworks") - sex scandals, issue of draft-dodging, french-look etc. In a nation of law, candidate's ability to follow legal procedures ("paperworks") is very basic expected quality.

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          • Author by harley (July 02, 2006 1:07 pm ET)
               

            ...hate laws, the Constitution, facts, and America. "Fool" is living proof of that fact. The deluded and pathetic radical right never blinked an eye when dubyah et al leaked the name of an undercover CIA agent working on WMD in Iraq, but now the lowly right are having a cumulative hissy fit because the NYT printed a story about a program that has been public knowledge since 2001. Hypocrites.

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    • Author by Nealo (July 01, 2006 8:15 pm ET)
         

      We need the leaks (valid leaks, not Libby leaks) because we can't trust government now. When Condi Rice sees a PDB that says "Bin Laden intends to strike U.S. with planes," she says, "Rubbish, its merely historical!" But when aluminum tubes are found that have nothing to do with uranium enrichment she says, "Aha! mushroom cloud!". When Al Gore is alleged to have made a phone call from the White House for campaign contributions, its a major calamity. When the American taxpayer pays Rove to run policitcal operations from the White House, its okay. Congress does nothing. We have only the U.S. Press to save us.

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    • Author by leatherhelmet (July 02, 2006 3:38 pm ET)
         

      dumb talking point.

      If fails on two levels.

      First, this is a positive leak for Bush. Look at the negative feedback the traitors at the NY Times are getting. They just showed Bush is breaking no laws and protecting citizens and the military from terrorists with this program and the Times is getting assailed for releasing details of an important terrorist hunting program.

      Second, the linkage between this being a "negative" leak and the media not pointing out the positive leak fails miserably.

      This leak hurt the war on terror. This leak could kill people. People aren't looking at it as a negative to positive leaks, they are looking at it as an act so traitorous they want the Times charged with treason.

      Keller's weak efforts today have only made the matter worse.

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      • Author by Polar (July 03, 2006 8:39 am ET)
           

        Two other newspapers printed nearly identical information. Where's your noose for them and their editors? Ah you've taken the high ground and gone after libs like your con brethren.

        Do you consider this information to be unknown to americans? Do you think that restating actions that the government has taken along with a name (swift) makes this news to terrorists?

        I find it very hard to believe that terrorists did not know we were looking at their global financial records.

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      • Author by loonz (July 03, 2006 3:50 pm ET)
           

        1. The only negative feedback is from the lunatic fringe of the republican party which is expected from people arguing in favor of totalitarianism.

        2. Don’t just say that this leak will get people killed explain how the NY Times, the LA Times or the Wall Street Journal reporting this information will do anyone America harm.

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      • Author by fantagor (July 03, 2006 6:07 pm ET)
           

        This leak (the NYT leak) hurt the war on terror. This leak could kill people. People aren't looking at it as a negative to positive leaks, they are looking at it as an act so traitorous they want the Times charged with treason.

        Leather, get a clue, please. The NTY went the government with the story, told them this is what we know, this is what we are prepared to print, and the government told them not to print it, that's all, even though, as per the Pentagon Papers decision, the government had the right to get a restraining order if they believe such an article will damage national security, which they knew wasn't going to happen because back in 2001, Bush HIMSELF said part of the War on Terror would include screening bank transactions and looking to freeze the assets of known terrorists and their affiliates. Doesn't that make Blabbermouth Bush a traitor as well? Actually, no it doesn't. The assertion that the terrorists had NO IDEA the US GOVT was screening bank transactions is so preposterously idiotic it could only come from the likes of Ann "Clinton is a rapist" Coulter.

        Please, do yourself a favor and put down the flag for a while and read a damn book not written by Coulter or other right wing job honorees such as Hannity and O’Reilly. There is quite a plethora of REAL info out there waiting to be discovered…and summarily ignored by you if it doesn’t jibe with your right-conditioned worldview.

        Boy, I can’t wait for the next Democratic president, who will undoubtedly continue the same illegal programs Bush started, so I can listen to your complaints about checks and balances and the “dictatorial Democrat” ruining the country, because, as I discovered long ago, to you and your conservative ilk, abuse of power is OK so long as a Republican is doing the abusing. My standard is much simpler. I disapprove, in all cases, of the government screening my private phone calls and bank transactions, for without probable cause you are reducing the Constitution to a square of toilet paper, which is abhorrent regardless of who is doing the wiping.

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    • Author by truthseeker77 (July 02, 2006 5:51 pm ET)
         

      Correct me if I'm wrong but MMFA only updates their stories Monday through Friday.

      I think this should be extended to Saturdays.

      I'll pay you the overtime.

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      • Author by zerosumgame0005 (July 03, 2006 11:00 am ET)
           

        since there are so many really stupid Sunday Morning talking head shows they need some time off before plunging back into the mire of banality Sunday afternoon :)

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    • Author by steeve (July 02, 2006 10:53 pm ET)
         

      Apparently the conservatives are supposed to be outraged over all leaks, or maybe no leaks. If so, then the liberals should be too, but they're not.

      I'm sure each leak is different from the others and require a different response, but if you go down that road you are using a different line of argument. This one must be abandoned.

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      • Author by zerosumgame0005 (July 03, 2006 10:52 am ET)
           

        If someone wants 'good press' for whomever they pick (dem or rep) and calls his buddies in and gives them the name of a CIA agent activly working to contain loose nukes AND the brass plate company she is working from (endangering dozens of other agents and thier contacts BTW, plus allowing more nukes on the street) just to try to deflect from their other lies, yeah everyone SHOULD be outraged at the leak. Only traitors would not be after all.

        On the other hand, if you have someone with no profit motive risking thier career and life in some cases to expose criminal activity by a public official(s) or a company endangering lots of people by decpetion, then no I cannot see why the leaker in that case should be castigated.

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      • Author by bigbingtheory (July 03, 2006 2:33 pm ET)
           

        Your "e" key appears to be stuck. The point MMFA is making is that the conservative punditry are seizing this NYTimes leak as a political issue and there is a hypocricy involved because the leaking of Valerie Plame's identity, which the Bush administration did solely for political purposes, has doen much greater harm to our national security. It's very simple. The Times leak in question is a leak theat exposes a clear violation of the constitution and an abuse of power. This is a leak the 4th estate, the MSMedia, is supposed to report to keep a check on government's abuse of power. The leak of Valerie Plame's identity and her front company that was tracking nuclear weapons proliferation of Iran, was an abuse of power. Do you see the difference? I doubt it, because you want to believe that conservatives and Bush are good, and liberals and the NYTimes are bad. Folks like yourself, Leatherhelmet, andd LL-Time aren't interested in objective research or analysis. As long as a Republican does it, it's ok with you. Contrary to your point of view, I've yet to meet a liberal who recieves talking points or is under the spell of MoveOn.org. We aren't that well organized and that is kind of how we like it. I can't speak for all liberals, but the one's I know aren't quick to just accept something as gospel because it fits neatly with our world view. Actually it's been my observation that it's conservatives, or a better tem might be Bush loyalists are quick to assume that Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly or any of the other right wing pundits are actually being truthful to them. They tell you what you want to hear and unfortunately you are all too willing to swallow it. Closing yourself off to any other view.

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    • Author by TrampledUnderFoot (July 03, 2006 11:27 am ET)
         

      By: Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas [link to www.lewrockwell.com]

      All should read or re-read: Sinclair Lewis's satirical political novel: "It Can't Happen Here"

      "...It serves as a warning that political movements akin to fascism or Nazism can come to power in countries such as the United States when people blindly support their leaders..."

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    • Author by princeofwheels (July 03, 2006 12:12 pm ET)
         

      I still firmly believe that this President cannot leak anything which his HORDE of Cadre does not allow. We must remember who runs this country. It is not Boy George. For anyone to believe that this man makes these decisions is only fooling themselves. If you recall, when being questioned concerning 9/11 before the Commission, Daddy Cheney had to go along because our "President" would more than likely ruin everything by answering questions. Why the Leatherguy and his cohorts, who are intelligent people continue to fall for this nonsensical Adminstration is beyond me? We know why the Limbaughs and Coulters do it.....MONEY MONEY MONEY...but to do it with BLIND FAITH it confounds me. And this comes from someone who once followed along like a sheep. But the accummulation of un-American activities by these guys and a gal, cannot be dismissed as patriotism. It is anit-America.

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