On The Tonight Show, Matthews again predicted Giuliani victory in '08
SUMMARY: On NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, MSNBC host Chris Matthews again predicted that "the next president of the United States will be Rudy Giuliani."
On the July 18 edition of NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, MSNBC host Chris Matthews again predicted that "the next president of the United States will be Rudy Giuliani," the former New York City mayor and a Republican. Matthews also suggested that Giuliani is someone who is "really good on the streets, who's very good on giving the information as they get it, just like in The Godfather." As Media Matters for America noted when Matthews stated on July 12 that Giuliani is "not only running" for president in 2008, but is "going to win the whole thing," Giuliani is at least the third Republican Matthews has touted as a strong candidate for the party's nomination or as the likely winner in November 2008 -- a group that also includes Sens. John McCain (AZ) and George Allen (VA), whom Matthews has plugged as "the two top guys to watch" on the Republican side.
As Media Matters noted, on the April 30 edition of the NBC-syndicated The Chris Matthews Show, Matthews agreed with Newsweek chief political correspondent Howard Fineman's assertion that McCain is "likely to win" the Republican presidential nomination.
From the July 18 episode of NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno:
JAY LENO (host): Let's talk about politics for a minute. Now, on the Republican side: McCain, Giuliani? Who do you think?
MATTHEWS: I believe that this country isn't going to go to the left next time or to the right. We're going to go deeper into somebody who's really good on the streets, who's very good on giving the information as they get it, just like in The Godfather.
LENO: OK.
MATTHEWS: Bad news immediately.
LENO: Right.
MATTHEWS: I hope -- well, I don't want to say hope 'cause I'm a journalist. I hope the American people take the next election very seriously and don't just vote partisan --
LENO: Yeah.
MATTHEWS: -- or personality or who has the happiest smile --
LENO: Right.
MATTHEWS: -- but picks the person that makes us feel the safest. And I know this guy is not perfect. I've not had a good relationship with him like lot of people. He's tough. I think the next president of the United States will be Rudy Giuliani.
LENO: Really?
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
LENO: That's interesting. OK.
MATTHEWS: Because I think that they want -- we want a guy who'll be tougher than the president we have now, quicker to tell us what's going on. He won't have a ranch. I know. I am tired of presidents with ranches. I want a guy that's working in town, you know. He's nearby. He tells us what's going on. It ain't three days later, they show him a movie of what's been happening. I just want a president who's there. Is that asking too much?
CUBA GOODING JR (actor): Somebody who lives in the ghetto!
MATTHEWS: Well, no, listen. Applaud the hood, but --
GOODING: You know what I mean?
MATTHEWS: -- how about in the city limits somewhere?
GOODING: Yeah, sure.
MATTHEWS: I really mean this. I think that, you know, the problem the president had with Katrina -- three days later, they showed him a DVD of what was happening. Well, everybody else knew from television what was going.
LENO: Right.
MATTHEWS: On 9-11 -- he was great on 9/14 --
LENO: Right.
MATTHEWS: -- three days late. He was dynamite when he hit the rubble. I loved what he did.
LENO: Yeah.
MATTHEWS: I was -- I thought the most inspirational thing in the world. But I think we want a president -- like, we grew up in a big city, you know, I grew up near Boston -- four-alarm fire, the police commissioner's there, the police, the fire commissioner's there, the mayor's there. They're standing on the street corner telling us what's going on as they look up at the fire.
GOODING: Yeah.
LENO: There you go.
MATTHEWS: I want a president who's there on the spot.
GOODING: Yeah.
LENO: Chris Matthews, ladies and gentlemen! Thank you, Chris, buddy.
MATTHEWS: Thank you.
LENO: And happy anniversary. Be right back with Ray Davies right after this.
is following their mission statement or not is not the topic.
The topic is-- Chris Matthews Is A Republican Shill.
My God, if you don't like it here, why do you spend so much time here? I know it's hard for righties, but try to find something positive to say about MMFA or the left, or Democrats. Or just say something positive. . .anything.
If you do, I'll try to do the same, and maybe the two of us can solve the world's problems right here on this very website.
I'm game if you are !
you got it. I know this because you are a smart guy. The thread reiterates CM's bias toward Republican politicians. It's evident on his show where he fawns all over the lowliest of them. That said, I don't think the extremist element in the Republican party who wield such power now would support a guy like Giuliani. He's too Liberal on social issues for them. I can see them now calling him a RINO, and don’t forget he’s a cheater and that won’t go over too well with the religious fundamentalists who don’t tolerate mistakes that are of a sexual nature.
"The thread reiterates CM's bias toward Republican politicians."
So Mathews is biased because he supports a liberal Republican? Mathews just wants Guiliani as president because he doesn't want an actual conservative like Newt Gingrich to be president. Hillary Clinton is just a little to far to the left for Mathew's liking. He would rather go with a mainstream liberal like Guiliani.
Republican. He is enamored with Republicans. I don't know what the Democrats have done to him, but he's sarcastic and dismissive toward the Democratic politicians that come on his show. Maybe he just likes the sound of Republican, hell I don't know ask his pschychiatrist.
I dont see the issue. So Matthews predicts the Republican who is pro -choice and supports Gay Rights and had an affair while married is going to be the next President. First he is wrong because Cons hate Rudy.
But what is the issue that Media Matters has to make this a story?
Does Media Matters hate Matthews this much?
Why is this an issue? Because Chris Matthews calls himself a journalist, not the PR guy for Guiliani. It may seem obvious to us, but not to the general public.
That's what Media Matters does; ferret out what these so-called journalists say and do and find the truth behind the PR spin.
Maybe because he's purportedly a journalist, he shouldn't go around spouting his own opinions. At least I don't think he should.
But I like what he said about the "3 days later" thing. ."9/11... [Bush] was great on 9/14" :D
and
"MATTHEWS: Because I think that they want -- we want a guy who'll be tougher than the president we have now, quicker to tell us what's going on. He won't have a ranch. I know. I am tired of presidents with ranches. I want a guy that's working in town, you know. He's nearby. He tells us what's going on. It ain't three days later, they show him a movie of what's been happening. I just want a president who's there. Is that asking too much?"
I agree with that 100%.
"JAY LENO (host): Let's talk about politics for a minute. Now, on the Republican side: McCain, Giuliani? Who do you think? "
MATTHEWS: -- ".............. I think the next president of the United States will be Rudy Giuliani. "
See, Matthews was asked who would be the Republican contender not the winner? Who is really showing their partisan colors now Mr. Matthews? And stumping on the Tonight Show no doubt. Why doesn't he just become Guilani's campaign manager?!!
That irrepressible, always fawning Bambi–Mathews is such a pukester. He really blew chunks with, “--three days late. He was dynamite when he hit the rubble. I loved what he did.”
Man, you can really hurt yourself slipping on that glop Tweetie drops!
And then, Mathews exposes himself…and he does it at Cuba Gooding’s expense! “Well, no, listen. Applaud the hood, but – how about in the city limits somewhere?” As in…Somewhere’s else!!!??? Thanks Chris, you fat [d]uck.
“There you go.” Drones Leno and Cuba opines, “Yeah.”
but picks the person that makes us feel the safest
Not the one that actually makes us safer. Just the one that makes us feel the safest.
That is THE most succinct analysis EVER of Republican campaign strategy since 9/11.
I think the conservatives would end up supporting Guiliani if he's nominated. Why would I say that knowing he's a social liberal? Are the Dems going to put up anbody to the right of him to draw the conservatives to them? I don't think so. Will the conservatives sit out the election? Again I don't think so. Especially if Hillary or any of the 'cut and run' crowd gets their nomination. :-)
I can't think of any Democratic contenders at the moment that could pull the moderates from Guiliani, but I think he probably could pull the disenfranchised moderates from the Dems. At the same time he's enough of an outsider to not be linked to the Administration.
It seems to me the most middle of the road Dem right now is Hillary. And even though she's sounding hawkish right now, I think her relationship to Bill will automatically turn off the swing voters.
As for CM, I see him as a pundit rather than a journalist. Because of his links to the Dems, I doubt that he has any influence in garnering votes for Rudy. Even if it is on Leno.
For what little it's worth, my guess right now is Romney for the GOP and Hillary for the Dems. I think a dark horse for the GOP is Newt while the Dems might go again for Edwards.
I know the question wasn't asked, but-- I'd love to see Wesley Clark against John McCain, now that would be a great campaign.
Watch Obama closely, it appears he's starting to make his move. Sooner is better than later if you're a Senator.
Romney would be torn to shreds, as would Hillary. George Allen wants it bad, but will be one of the first to drop. Rudy won't get Repub support, Santorum is a joke, Newt will have real problems as well.
I think it will be McCain/Gingrich or McCain/Allen against Clark/Obama or (pick-em) Gore-Kerry-Edwards/Obama
I think Obama will be our next Democratic VicePres. nom.
I don't particularly find HRC a very strong candidate, but she trounced him, trounced him in the run up to the senate race. Mathews may have forgotten that (or is more likely ignoring it), but we should not.
It'll be McCain.
However, I do believe that was pre 9/11. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Why the surprise, remember MM crowned Matthews "Misinformer of the Year" for 2005, (/mediamatters.org/items/200512230005). So now he is tired of our cowboy president; well, aren't we all! What with all the fawning he has beeen doing since Bush came into office, it's a little hard to swallow this change of heart.
Yeah, and 9/11 was pre-bernie kerik and pre-ralph reed for GA lite gov and many equally-appalling examples of rudy's poor judgement and less-than ethical conduct.
The morning of 9/11/01 was election day for Mayor of NYC. Rudy wasn't on the ballot. NYC had caught enough of his act. Before those planes hit the Towers, most of NYC wouldn't have pissed on him if he were on fire.
Once you get past 9/11, Rudy is synonymous with Amidou and Abner and Police Corruption/Misconduct as far as the eye can see.
NYC wanted a mayor for all of New York. Not just the white people. Not just the Yankee fans.
Guiliani was term-limited and couldn't run in 2001, and Sept. 11 was the primary, not the general election.
Rudy got, with all due respect and no offense intended towards 9/11 victims, a campaign managers wet dream with that rubble pile. I know others have pointed it out here, but those post 9/11 days were about an America that would cheer for any guy with a bullhorn telling us everything was gonna be OK.
I was even impressed with RG at the time (GWB couldn't even win me over at that time), but I've since seen him in conversation on other topics, and find him about as deep as my navel.
As we all know, being 'deep' is not a primary characteristic of those we send up to run for prez.
If he does get the nod, maybe the unrelenting glare of a campaign will lead others to come to your opinion.
However, I do give him kudos for cleaning up NYC and his handling of 9/11.
I'll need more to go on. Do you have an "Innie" or an "Outie?"
Only last night I had to apologize to some female posters about my thinly-disguised name-calling of Ann Coulter which thay thought was sexist, and promised I'd keep it more wholesome.
I will not tolerate your questions regarding my navel, nor any other sexual harrassment. So , easy tiger ;>D
For what little it's worth, my guess right now is Romney for the GOP and Hillary for the Dems. I think a dark horse for the GOP is Newt while the Dems might go again for Edwards.
- anotheramerican / Wednesday July 19, 2006 09:27:06 PM EST
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Clearly, I've given you too much credit, uggie. I know you wacks are easily enthralled by shiny objects but you're out of your frickin' mind if you think the white trash taliban that runs the republican party is going to put a Mormon from Massachusetts at the top of the ticket. Orin Hatch and his late, not-so-lamented "skinny cat" campaign had a better shot in 2000.
How'd that turn out again? Oh, yeah, that's what I thought.
He didn't run for Governor again because he knew he wouldn't get reelected. He's a Political Mimbo. Nice house but nobody's home. A wee bit of scrutiny showed what a corrupt operation he ran and lousy job he did on the 2002 Winter Olympics in SLC.
Too bad Ray Davies didn't do "a well-respected man" after Matthews' song and dance. It would've gone right over Matthews and every other repo head but it would've been fitting.
Rudy did a great job - for two weeks, lefty. He was great in a crisis. He knew what he was doing, though. He new every fireman/cop funeral he went to was a feather in his cap and a bulge in his bank account.
He's big on superficial, phony-ass gestures. Who cares about the murder rate or police corruption and misconduct if ya get rid of the squeegee guy. Bernie Kerik. Ralph Reed. Milkin' 9/11 for all it's worth. That's the real Rudy.
He's not pretty enough nor dumb enough to be the Repugs patsy-of-choice. McCain's cozying up to Falwell and the not-so-religious right seals the deal as he's made his Faustian bargain and now the devil provides the turnkey. People in rural Red wherever will say Rudy who? But they'll see McCain as that guy who fathered the black baby but kissed the hand of Falwell. People love contrition.
The clueless crackers and dumb okies who buy this clown's act will always love Rudy as Captain 9/11, the caped crusader, but that's the extent of it. Take him out of that context and he's just some rino from the wrong part of the country.
But hey, as often as Tweety wants to pump up Rudy, I can simply recycle the same post . . . thanks, Chris!
Rudy G., for that element of the right wing and their lemmings that doesn't want to "change boats in mid stream", is the perfect GOP candidate for many reasons:
Cares nuthin' about minorities, as the Diallo and Louima cases demonstrated.
Gives preference to big business, not just when cleaning up Times Square, but also gentrified NYC throughout the boroughs when moving out poor/lower income persons off land to make room for corporate ownership.
Can flip-flop when it suits him: was going to make an issue out of Hilary's being a "carpetbagger" during the 2000 NY Senate race - until it was revealed that, as a Dem during the '60s, he was in favor of RFK, another carpetbagger, representing NY in the Senate.
Exploits 9/11 for political gain: 9/11/01 was the day of the NYC mayoral primary {not the election} and was automatically delayed 2 weeks - but Rudy sought to have his term {due to expire New Year's Day} extended to April 1, and threatened to run for a disallowed third consecutive term . . . the NYS legislature smacked him down and the election and inauguration proceeded on schedule.
So, put 'em together . . . dislikes minorities + favors big business + flip-flopper + will exploit a nat'l tragedy for political capital . . . and what'ya got? the PERFECT GOP presdiential candidate!
Too liberal when it comes to gays? No problem . . . Rudy knows he has to say one thing when talking to NYC constituents, and another when appealing to the {red state} nation . . . so, sometime in the next month or so, expect him to just casually drop in a conversation or interview that he was actually in favor of the defeated gay-marriage ban amendment . . .
Matthews predicts "next Super Bowl champion will be the Arizona Cardinals."