Beck has a warning for Muslims "who have sat on [their] frickin' hands" and have not "lin[ed] up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head"
On the August 10 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Glenn Beck warned that "[t]he world is on the brink of World War III" and that "Muslims who have sat on your frickin' hands the whole time and have not been marching in the streets" will face dire consequences. Beck made his comments toward Muslims who he claimed "have not been saying, 'Hey, you know what? There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. We need to be the first ones in the recruitment office lining up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head.' " He predicted that the result will be that "[h]uman beings are not strong enough, unfortunately, to restrain themselves from putting up razor wire and putting you on one side of it," adding that "when people become hungry, when people see that their way of life is on the edge of being over, they will put razor wire up and just based on the way you look or just based on your religion, they will round you up." He concluded: "Is that wrong? Oh my gosh, it is Nazi, World War II wrong, but society has proved it time and time again: It will happen."
From the August 10 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
BECK: And again, and I told you before we ever went into Iraq we're not going in there for weapons of mass destruction. That's important and that's great and everything else. We're going in there because Iran is the root of all evil over there. Iran is the root of all of the problems over there. And that's why we were going in. Well, Iran knows that, and now that we are really deep in the battle -- and everybody else might think -- I mean, all these just imbeciles who are, "What are we doing over in Iraq?" Read. For the love of Pete, read. Open your eyes.
The world is on the brink of World War III. That's what we're doing over in Iraq. Now I'm not saying that we're in the best position in Iraq, I'm not saying I agree with necessarily the way we fought it in Iraq, but that's what we're doing in Iraq. And, we gotta stop -- I'm telling you, soon the time will come when they will drop 10 planes into the drink, and if what I said is true, and I hope it's not, what I said is true that Iran may not be stalling for time for the nuke. Iran may be ready to play their endgame. If that is indeed is true, when you see somebody drop 10 planes into the Atlantic, Iran is going to make its move. At the time Iran makes its move, they are going to move right through Iraq and they are going to move all the way to Israel. And the whole Middle East is going to be on fire.
And when that happens, the terrorists are going to bomb the oil fields. When that happens, when you see 10 planes go into the Atlantic Ocean, and if Iran is ready, that's when they're going to make their move in the Middle East and that's the same time within two days that's when Venezuela will shut the oil down over here. And I'm telling you it's coming. And at that point, you know what happens? All you Muslims who have sat on your frickin' hands the whole time and have not been marching in the streets and have not been saying, "Hey, you know what? There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. We need to be the first ones in the recruitment office lining up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head." I'm telling you, with God as my witness, America is -- no I'm not going to make this an American thing -- human beings are not strong enough, unfortunately, to restrain themselves from putting up razor wire and putting you on one side of it. When things -- when people become hungry, when people see that their way of life is on the edge of being over, they will put razor wire up and just based on the way you look or just based on your religion, they will round you up. Is that wrong? Oh my gosh, it is Nazi, World War II wrong, but society has proved it time and time again: It will happen.
The time to solve these things is when there's somewhat reasonable people engaged. But once you cut our oil supply off, once you set the Middle East on fire, and once you drop 10 planes into the Atlantic Ocean, the razor wire is coming. And our whole world looks different.
I guess we now know exactly where the right wing republicans stand--don't we.
What a f&^%**& moron! This guy talks out of his ass more than that dumbass John Gibson on Fox News. I laughed at this clip.
I guess all Christians everywhere had better run around screaming about it whenever some random Christian does something bad.
Stop blaming other people for your racism, you worthless piece of crap.
You hit it on the head. A facet of republicanism/ conservatism I've observed time and again is the speed and alacrity with which he/she will blame others ...
...the blame-game is an easy fix for a) a 'clean' conscience, b) is a tinderbox for non-thinkers/followers, c) always offers fodder for the next accusation...
It's a scam... one that, more and more, seems harder to battle with facts and reason.
Where is the outrage from Christian conservatives whenever a right-wing domestic terrorists kills their fellow Americans? There have been many examples, from Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Eric Robert Rudolph, James Kopp, etc.
Are all Christians required to "line up and shoot the bad Christians in the head", as Beck suggests all Muslims do with Islamic jihadists? Does the entire Christian community get the terrorist enabler label when they don't shoot the "bad Christians"?
Not only did most right-wing pundits I've heard refuse to criticize Rudolph, McVeigh, etc., they even went so far as to blame the government for the actions of those terrorists, by pointing out Ruby Ridge or Waco as justification.
Radical muslims kill more people in 10 seconds every day than all the radical christians on the planet.
Your comparison is ridiculous.
1. I never claimed Christian terrorists have killed more people than Muslim terrorists.
2. You're missing my point, which is that nobody cries for all Christians to condemn any terrorist attack by fellow Christians. Nobody accuses the entire Christian population of enabling Christian terrorists by not speaking out against them.
That's because there are no "christian terrorists," unless you count N. Ireland and the occasional abortion clinic blow up artist, both of which are roundly condemed by nearly all Christian groups.
The difference is that Christianity, for better or for worse, is a religion of extreme peaceful inclusiveness, whereas Islam is a religion of violent inclusiveness, i.e, convert or die.
When Islam goes through a reformation, we can speak of it as being on the same level as Christianity, Judaism, etc. Until that time, it will remain a mostly barbaric cult.
The so called "right-wing Christian terrorist" is a terrorist who happens to be a Christian while the Islamic terrorist are terrorist who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. They have the backing of a large portion of the religion as a whole for their terrorist acts. The rise of fascist Islam is almost an exact parallel to the rise of Hitler’s fascist regime in the ‘30s. While Beck’s “shock rhetoric” is over the top, he is correct in that the Muslim community’s silence and failure to denounce terrorism in the name of Islam makes them appear to condone it. I think the acts of the home grown terrorist you mentioned have all been widely condemned by religious leaders and members in this country and abroad. The same cannot be said of peaceful Islam.
Stop blaming other people for your racism, you worthless piece of crap. lololol... that sounds like Savage!
Savage would have said something like you love pushing babies into ovens and we should kill you and 100 million people who look vaguely like you
have you ever actually listened to savage?
beyond the hyperbole, he is actually quite a humanist.
and MMFA of course cherry picks the hyperbole.
so, have you, or do you simply go by what you've read hear? and have you listened for an extended time, or just tuned in waiting for pre existing prejudices to be fulfilled?
Hell, we should line all the bad people up in the world and shoot them all in the head one by one -- for the affect -- starting with yours truly: Mr. Beck. Actually, I am in no way suggesting we shoot anyone for one of the many subjective judgements that someone is "bad", but I do imply Mr. Beck is in no position to call someone bad. His line of politics is not well thought out and neither is our President's. As a major power in the world, we cannot play war dynamics with nations that have nuclear weapons verses nations that don't. It is clear to the world now you get bombed on when you don't have the bomb, and the Israeli conflict will bare that fact out. Our nation's officials are supposed to come from some of the smartest schools in the world, and you mean to tell me they can't come up with a plan for peace that does not lead to a nuclear holocaust? If this is what they learned from those expensive schools, I would rather be a drop out and save money by taking the common sense approach to complex issues. The amount of rage expressed in Beck's tone is suppose to represent how fed up he is with the Muslims. One thing is for sure: I am glad he's not in the position to affect others lives in the way he expressed.
Joseph
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Yup, the reich wing keeps telling us they think it's wrong to call others Nazi but they sure don't have any problems doing what they claim the left is doing, don't they?
Sinclair Lewis, "It Can't Happen Here"...fascism comes to 1930's America. His best book and an inspiring read.
As much as I think GB is projecting, I'm not sure you can refute his prediction. The film - The Siege - portrayed basically the same thing (even before 9/11) and is unfortunately and uncomfortably close to the mark as to what we might see if there were more successful domestic attacks.
Beck, like the film, states this would be spectacular wrong but could happen. Give him some credit for at least being honest about that.
Keep it up Glenn! You've just proven you're a true right-winger: just like with the communists and other totalitarians, the response always have to include violence.
What Glenn is saying is these terrorists have used the excuse of Islam to commit the outrageous crimes they've committed. Where are the others' taking a stance against the actions taking place under their religion? Whenever someone says something a person doesn't like, many of the Left like to call it "hate speech" or "racism". It's common sense. If you don't think it's gonna get worse, you better start paying more attention. Know what this war is about.
"Whenever someone says something a person doesn't like, many of the Left like to call it "hate speech" or "racism". It's common sense." --Shannon
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First of all, as of your posting time, no one has brought up "hate speech", but you. Be specific with your argument, you are using strawmen to make your silly little points.
Secondly, whenever someone like you starts their sentence like yours above I am just waiting for you to say: "Everyone knows black people are just better at picking cotton in the hot sun."
There is a little strawman of my own I thought you might appreciate.
Them or Us
Good Muslims Bad Muslims
Bush's Holy Warriors or Pol Pot's Henchmen
Republicans with God on their side or Democrats riding with the Prince of Darkness.
Are we the only one's who see a systematic, orchestrated attempt to define dissent as evil and following the leader as honorable?
Look at today's topics. So many conservative darling's and all pushing the same line of swill. They're ratcheting up the stakes and going for broke. Is anyone one else afraid?
"And again, and I told you before we ever went into Iraq we're not going in there for weapons of mass destruction. That's important and that's great and everything else. We're going in there because Iran is the root of all evil over there. "
We went to Iraq because Iran is a problem? Huh?
Glenn, did you ever "Read. For the love of Pete, read." that Saddam actually was in a war with Iran?
"We need to be the first ones in the recruitment office lining up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head."
Glenn, what exactly is your record of military service?
"...human beings are not strong enough, unfortunately, to restrain themselves from putting up razor wire and putting you on one side of it."
Gosh, Muslims, if you don't sign up to fight in Iraq...uh, Iran... well, whatever - Beck can't be responsible for America throwing away everything this country stands for.
An incoherent rambling worthy of a padded cell. And Time Warner thinks this raving is worth a nightly outing on cable TV.
...and I'm sure you already knew the answer, but Glenn Beck, in typical, bloviating chickenhawk fashion, never bothered to serve his country.
He's all for war, as long as someone else is doing the fighting.
Maybe he was too busy reading books about how we have to invade Iraq in order to stop Iran (actually, by his own admission, he was a major alcoholic and drug abuser).
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Is the point being made that Muslim leadership around the world bears no responsibility for standing up against those in their community who seek to do violence to others?
It is my impression that, in fact, we *do* expect Christian leaders to condemn acts of violence, and we even expect them to tip off the FBI when they learn of such plans. And when those leaders do not obey the law, they are arrested and tried as accessories.
I am puzzled by the enormous prejudice against Muslims exhibited not by Mr. Beck, but by several of the posters, who apparently feel that Muslim leaders are either too dim-witted or that Islam is too morally bankrupt for us to have the same expectations of them that we have for any other leader who finds mayhem being plotted among his/her constituency.
Muslim leaders were NOT speaking against violence. They are, they have been I have been reading about them doing so all along here are just a few examples
[link to www.cair-net.org]
U.S. Muslim Leaders Are Preaching Against Violence
Viewers of cable TV stations in the Tampa market last weekend may have seen a 30-second advertisement in which two American Muslims denounce violence in the name of Islam. They vow, in part, that they will "not allow our faith to be hijacked by criminals."
The ad, which aired 105 times over the weekend on CNN, the Weather Channel and other networks, was produced by the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
It's part of a campaign by the nonprofit council and other Islamic groups to urge young American Muslims to reject extremism and terrorism.
[link to www.cbc.ca]
In an unprecedented move, 120 imams and other Muslim leaders from across the country gathered in Toronto and released a statement afterwards. "Terrorism has been increasing and it is our religious duty to confront this evil," Ahmad Kutty, a Toronto imam, told reporters. "We must do so unitedly – as imams and religious leaders," he said. "We must send out this one voice across to all Muslims that there is no justification whatsoever for targeting innocent people."
[link to jihadwatch.org]
More than 150 Muslim imams and scholars met in Jordan, called by King Abdullah II. The unprecedented statement they released could drain some of the faith-based power behind wars between Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere, some experts say. The impact on attacks like the ones against non-Muslim nations - the U.S., Spain and England, among others - are less obvious. It does not disavow all acts of violence. By implication, both assertions reject the religious justifications often offered by Islamic terrorists, who proclaim fatwas to condemn other Muslims as heretics, or "apostates." Islamic law says that Muslims, as a general rule, should not attack other Muslims. But terrorists say that it's a religious duty to attack apostates.
And to the extent that faith is used to recruit fighters, inspire attacks and raise money, the document strikes directly at that support.
Since you seem to be just ASSUMING this is not happening I think its pretty clear where they are not doing so without finding out that in fact they ARE I would say its pretty clear where the anti Islamic prejudice really is. It may not be happening as often or as loudly as you would like. Part of that might be the Korans prohibition against Muslims attacking other Muslims or it might be that this doesnt fit the preferred storyline of Muslims as crazed fanatics so it doesnt get as much attention but it clearly IS being done. Therefore you have no point.
Beck hasn't lined up to shoot the American soldiers who raped the Iraqi girl and shot her family!
We go into Iraq because Iran has weapons of mass distruction? Is it just me, or shouldn't you deal with the people who are causing the problem?
Why is it that lately everyone is responsible for condemning everyone and everything they don't agree with. That's why this county is such a nanny-state. No one is allowed to say, "there beliefs don't represent mine, end of story." As if every time someone in the world does something bad to someone, every person of note: progressive, conservative, Muslim, whatever, suddenly has to drop what they're doing, find the largest possible media outlet and say, "so and so did this and it's terrible." Otherwise, they are guilty of being incahoots. What a crock. Enough of this "tsk, tsk" nanny-state, already. Moderate muslims are no more responsible for what extremist muslims do than you are, fox1
Well first it is Al-Qaeda, then the Taliban, then Iraq/Saddam... I guess Iran makes as good a target as any to the far right. If only the people in Iran and the rest of the mid-east new that the majority of Americans don't have it out for brown people.
If a good Muslim shoots a bad Muslim in the head, wouldn't that make him/her a bad Muslim as well? Maybe Beck missed out on that little Catch 22 he just suggested.
I stand in awe of the sheer lunacy of Beck's rant. We attacked Iraq because Iran's the problem? Look for the sign of 10 planes dropping into the Atlantic before Iran attacks? There are no words to describe the ignorance, hysteria and sheer pettyness Beck has just spewed forth. Just..........unbelievable!
It'd further decrease the Muslim population, which I'm sure Beck would applaud.
After listening for about 5 minutes it finally occurred to me why people listen to this guy. They listen to him and other right wing boneheads for the same reason people slow down to look at a grisly car wreck or watch professional wrestling.
Beck et al are smart enough to know that intelligent conversation won't work. Comments that are more appropriate as bumper stickers are apparently good enough for his listeners.
By the way Glenn - still waiting for the announcement that you've enlisted. WW III has begun!
How does this idiot think the Brits captured the would-be airplane bombers? A fellow Muslim turned them in.
I watched The Piano with my daughter, and she wondered (as we all do) how so many people of a wide range of intelligence could be so stupid and lemming-like. I need to look no further than "once the war starts, back us or shut up" O'Reilly, or "We need to be the first ones in the recruitment office lining up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head." Beck.
Idiots. Godwin law be damned, these guys are the perfect Nazis following the perfect Hitler into a worthless war based on scare tactics.
We went into Iraq because Iran is the root of all evil over there.
Oh that's right. No WMD. No link to Al Qaida. Not spred freedom and democracy. We invaded a country three years ago because the guy next door was bad.
Somebody please find this guy a padded cell.
"We went into Iraq because Iran is the root of all evil over there." So our solution is to remove a government that was in strong oppostion to Iran, creating a vacuum which is being filled in large part by pro Iranian factions who are battling us to the death, thereby empowering Iran and strengthening its position in the region. Now that's some masterful foreign policy.
"The world is on the brink of World War III." And no one seems to be able to figure out ways to step back. The single biggest effect of our Middle East policy up to this point seems to have been strengthening the terrorists' resolve and increasing their numbers, while at home all we hear is constant fear-mongering about how every issue we face is somehow related to terrorism.
Doesn' everyone just get sick and tired of these soft radio talk show guys talking tough? I've never seen such mouthy bunch of cowards in my entire life.
I still remember my mother who's in her 70's telling me she had to turm the channel because this guy kept picking on a young woman and another woman who lost her son, I asked her who it was and she responded by saying.
Some puffball named Beck.
...how is that plan working out? If one were to believe this reasoning then they would have to be really pissed at this administration for such a major FUBAR policy. Weaken Iran by taking away the one buffer zone between Iran and the more moderate Arab countries. Allow those sympathetic to Iran (shia) to take majority rule over said buffer. Laying the ground work for the dominance of the Shia crescent in the Middle East. How we doing so far in the plan? Not so good, right? We then weaken our ability to get enforceable sanctions in place against Iran because we hand the ultimate weapon to the opposition to hammer us with…the opposition argues for the watering down of the resolution against Iran so that the US can’t do what they did with Iraq…go into Iraq under the reasoning that the resolution gave them the right to do it without the support of the council. Yeah, this plan is going great. Next we further alienate Russia by our condescension and public criticism…pushing them to act out against the US by increasing their support of Iran. Likewise with China. We take public attention away from the threat of Iran by bringing attention on the US and its Iraq war policies. We hand the opposition the effective defense of we need to be armed in order to defend from preemptive strikes by the US. Yeah this plan is coming along swimmingly. Unless the ‘plan” to weaken Iran is overhauled Iran is on a straight path to becoming STRONGER then they have ever been…and our allies against Iran WEAKER then they have ever been.
is this guy STILL on CNN???
does Beck cast a reflection.
On a lighter note, "[t]he world is on the brink of World War III", I am glad that CNN settled on WW III as the official terminology. I was becoming confused with aall the WW IV to WW VI references. I felt like I had missed something mainly WW III to WW V.
"The world is on the brink of World War III. That's what we're doing over in Iraq."
We're trying to push it over the brink.
Sound logic, Glenn.
Maybe not in the middle east, but in other parts of the world where Muslims often live together in the same enclaves, such as London, Hamburg, or New York, I find it hard to believe that the extremists aren't known to the peaceful moderates in the Muslim community. I spent quite some time in British occupied Belfast, Ireland, and although I lived with politically nuetral people, devout Christians who wouldn't choose a side, they STILL knew who was IRA, who was UVF, who the troublemakers were. I do believe that moderate Muslims have a responsibility, not to publicly condemn, I don't give a crap what they condemn, but to POINT OUT these people to intelligence authorities. They're the only ones who can keep us from blanketly accusing everyone, and getting nothing accomplished. They're the only ones who can keep the "razor wire from going up." Because Beck is right. The world is made up of reactionary people. If we become too afraid, we're going to start internment camps to feel safer, and that's a sad fact.
If we ever expect that to happen we need to stop fomenting policies that make moderate Muslims think that we see this as a war against Islam or that we are attacking Muslims just because they are Muslims by doing things like invading Iraq using 9/11 and non existant WMDs as an excuse. It just looks too much like we are saying well maybe you didnt attack us on 9/11 but you look kinda like the guys who did and thats close enough. Only after we stop policies that make it look like our war is with Islam, and denounce the hatespewing morons whose rhetoric makes it look that way like Savage saying we should kill one hundred million Muslims or Coulter saying we should torture Arabs as a televised sport and drop daisy cutters at random in the Middle East that we can isolate the fanatic extremists FROM the moderate Islamic population.
I've never heard Mr. Beck before, nor seen his TV show.
'Owever, I must say that although his prediction is horrible, it isn't racist in the least. It's a prediction, nothing more or less.
And his prediction is this: if "homegrown" American Muslims begin a campaign in the US, the average American will DEMAND that all Muslim's be interred.
This is unfair, and perhaps irrational, but nonetheless likely.
Furthermore, unless organizations like CAIR begin to seriously demand an end to terror abroad, when terror comes to roost in the states, they may very well be scapegoated as the instigators.
I would liken it to Germans to didn't decry Hitler fast enough, or Japanese American's put into concentration camps.
What Mr. Beck is suggesting is that American Muslims can avoid these horrors by VOCALLY and PUBLICLY (oh, for italics) distancing themselves from Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.
You can support the Palestinian people, but the moment you give a suicide bomber the moral equivilancy of a soldier, you have crossed the line into insanity.
pax
"What Glenn is saying is that these terrorists used the excuse of Islam to commit the outrageous crimes they've committed. Where are the others taking a stance against others acting under their religion?"
. . . just like Pat Robertson calling for the assassination of a democratically-elected foreign head of state - twice,
. . . or Tim McVeigh and David Koresh, who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people,
were "acting under their religion [Christianity]"?
So, I guess by yours and Glenn's logic, though its already too late for McVeigh and Koresh, I should stop sitting on my hands and shoot Pat Roberston in the head . . . right?