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October 16, 2006 8:02 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman has been inconsistent in his public statements about his relationship to disgraced GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff. In recent interviews, CNN's Wolf Blitzer and U.S. News & World Report staff writer Will Sullivan passed up the opportunity to challenge Mehlman about these inconsistencies.

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As the scandal surrounding disgraced GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff has inched closer to the White House over the past year, Republican National Committee (RNC) chairman Ken Mehlman has offered inconsistent accounts of his relationship with Abramoff. In a January interview, Mehlman described Abramoff as "someone who we don't know a lot about. We know what we read in the paper." In April, however, an RNC spokesperson was quoted conceding that Mehlman had known Abramoff "in various capacities" after emails surfaced suggesting that, as White House political director during Bush's first term, Mehlman had repeatedly been in direct contact with the lobbyist. And when even more details recently came to light regarding the political favors Mehlman allegedly carried out on Abramoff's behalf, Mehlman told the Los Angeles Times that he did not "recall the details of his contacts with the Abramoff team."

But in an October 15 interview with Mehlman, CNN host Wolf Blitzer did not ask him to explain his shifting accounts of his involvement with Abramoff. Further, in the published excerpts of an interview with Mehlman in the October 23 issue of U.S. News & World Report, staff writer Will Sullivan failed even to ask him about his relationship with the lobbyist, as a diarist on the weblog Daily Kos noted.

Following are Mehlman's evolving statements regarding Abramoff:

  • In a January interview with freelance journalist A.L. Bardach, Mehlman described Abramoff as "someone who we don't know a lot about. We know what we read in the paper."
  • In the April issue of Vanity Fair, contributing editor David Margolick reported that documents obtained by Vanity Fair indicated that Mehlman had done political favors for Abramoff and even attended Sabbath dinner at the lobbyist's house. Margolick quoted Abramoff saying, "Any important Republican who comes out and says they didn't know me is almost certainly lying." The article also noted that a spokesperson for Mehlman responded that he "does not recall the e-mail exchange, 'because he was often contacted by political supporters with suggestions and ideas,' or the Sabbath dinner." RNC spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt subsequently told Reuters that "Jack Abramoff is someone that the chairman has known in various capacities during his time in Washington."
  • A September 29 report by the House Committee on Government Reform found that "Abramoff and his colleagues billed their clients for more than 400 contacts with White House officials between 2001 and 2004," as The Washington Post reported. Included in the billing records were 17 contacts with the White House Office of Political Affairs, which Mehlman directed until 2004. The committee noted that Abramoff associate Tony Rudy had described Mehlman as a "rock star" in a November 9, 2001, email to Abramoff, after a meeting "regarding efforts to secure federal funds for the Mississippi Band of the Choctaw Indians." The report further noted that, according to a Department of Justice probe, one White House aide "kept Abramoff aware of information relevant to Guam ... at the behest of Ken Mehlman." In response to the committee's findings, Schmitt asserted that 'it was not unusual'' that Mehlman ''would be in contact with supporters who had interest in administration policy.''
  • An October 15 Los Angeles Times article reported that a string of emails from 2001 "suggest" that Mehlman had worked to remove State Department official Allen Stayman at Abramoff's request. The Times reported that the "e-mails show that Abramoff, whose client list included the Northern Mariana Islands, had long opposed Stayman's work advocating labor changes in that U.S. commonwealth, and considered what his lobbying team called the 'Stayman project' a high priority." In an email sent after a meeting with Mehlman, an Abramoff associate reportedly wrote, "Mehlman said he would get him fired." Shortly thereafter, Stayman lost his position in the State Department. According to the article, Mehlman conceded that he had known Abramoff since the mid-1990s, but "said he did not recall the details of his contacts with the Abramoff team."

In his first televised interview since the September 29 House report, Mehlman appeared on the October 15 edition of CNN's Late Edition. During the interview, host Wolf Blitzer noted the allegations in the Times article that Stayman lost his job "after intervention by one of the highest officials at the White House: Ken Mehlman, on behalf of one of the most influential lobbyists in town, Jack Abramoff." Blitzer then asked: "Is that true?" Mehlman responded, "It is not true," adding that he "did not have the authority as the political director to fire anybody" and that he typically "let the policy-makers or the personnel deciders know exactly what people said. And they made the decisions." He further stated, "I also don't recall the specifics of this matter involving Mr. Stayman. But as a matter of course, and certainly in the first term, I had, frequently, people come to see me with political issues they wanted talked about." Blitzer went on to note that the Times quoted "an email from one of Abramoff's associates, as saying, 'Mehlman said he would get him fired.' In response, Mehlman again stated that he "didn't have that authority." Blitzer subsequently changed the subject.

But Blitzer could have asked Mehlman to reconcile his various accounts of his relationship with Abramoff:

  • You stated in January that Abramoff was "someone we don't know a lot about" -- that "we know what we read in the paper" -- but have since admitted that you have known him "in various capacities" since the mid-'90s. So by your own admission, your knowledge of him extended beyond what you read "in the paper." How do you explain that discrepancy?
  • According to Margolick's reporting in Vanity Fair, documents indicate that you attended Sabbath dinner at Abramoff's house. Margolick quoted a spokesperson saying you don't recall whether you had Sabbath dinner at Abramoff's house. How is that possible? Do you still maintain that you don't remember whether you had Sabbath dinner with Abramoff?

Further, Blitzer could have pressed Mehlman on his response to the Stayman allegations:

  • I understand that in your capacity as White House political director you "did not have the authority" to fire Mr. Stayman yourself, only to "let the policy-makers or the personnel deciders know exactly what people said." But the Times article specifically alleges that your "intervention" in the matter led to his firing. Did you convey to anyone in the administration that Abramoff wanted Stayman removed from his State Department post? Did you communicate with anyone in the administration at all about Stayman?
  • As the Times noted, Abramoff had "long opposed" Stayman's efforts to extend U.S. labor laws to the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI). Indeed, in a January 31, 1998, email, Abramoff outlined a plan to "impeach Stayman and his campaign against the CNMI." Were you aware of Abramoff's longstanding opposition to Stayman's work?

From the October 15 edition of CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer:

BLITZER: There's a story in the Los Angeles Times today that directly involves you. And I want to give you a chance to respond to it.

It suggests that an official at the State Department was fired, a man named Allen Stayman, who was involved in the tiny Pacific islands nations of the Northern Mariana Islands. He was fired because Jack Abramoff, the disgraced Republican lobbyist, now confessed felon, came to you and basically said, "Fire this guy; he's not allowing the policies in the Northern Mariana Islands that Abramoff and his clients wanted."

"Newly disclosed emails," the L.A. Times reports, "suggest that the ax fell after intervention by one of the highest officials at the White House: Ken Mehlman, on behalf of one of the most influential lobbyists in town, Jack Abramoff."

You were then the political director.

MEHLMAN: I was.

BLITZER: Is that true?

MEHLMAN: It is not true. And I'm not sure that those emails suggested that. First of all, Wolf, I did not have the authority as the political director to fire anybody. It wasn't my decision.

As political director -- now second of all, I also don't recall the specifics of this matter involving Mr. Stayman. But as a matter of course, and certainly in the first term, I had, frequently, people come to see me with political issues they wanted talked about.

BLITZER: Including Jack Abramoff?

MEHLMAN: Or personnel issues that they wanted talked about. And when they would come see me, what I would do is let the decision-makers --

BLITZER: Jack Abramoff, also?

MEHLMAN: Again, I don't recall that specific matter that he came to me for, but I had a way of dealing with all these matters, which was to let the policy-makers or the personnel deciders know exactly what people said. And they made the decisions.

What's interesting about this, though, Wolf, while I don't recall it specifically, I have seen some articles since then, since this came out. And what they suggest is that Mr. Stayman violated the Hatch Act, which is a federal law that prohibits employees of the government engaging in politics on their official clock.

And it also suggests he may have been working with the DNC [Democratic National Committee] on some things. So while I certainly didn't have the authority to fire anybody and I don't recall this specific matter, it does appear, from what other news reports indicate that there was apparently cause for Mr. Stayman to be removed.

BLITZER: Because, in the L.A. Times, it quotes an email from one of Abramoff's associates, as saying, "Mehlman said he would get him fired."

MEHLMAN: Yeah, Mehlman didn't have that authority. Mehlman wouldn't say he had that authority. And remember, you're dealing with individuals who, as we know, have pled guilty to defrauding their clients by saying they did things they weren't able to get done.

As a political director, my job -- and any job of a political director -- is to hear from people, whether it's about personnel or about policy, and make sure that the policy-makers understand their concerns.

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    • Author by dangrady (October 16, 2006 8:23 pm ET)
         

      Guess who's in the closet???

      If Ken Mehlman isn't GAY, I'm not redheaded, thick knecked, and with a bad attitude.

      The man has self deprecation down to an art. A master peice of saying exactly what you don't mean sincerely as though you did.

      Makes the head spin, which makes me wonder if Harvard School of Government shouldn't be renamed Harvard School of Bull Sh-t.

      We should have a 50yr moratorium on Ivy League Grads in government.

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

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    • Author by skiploader1111 (October 16, 2006 8:28 pm ET)
         

      "I just made it up."

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    • Author by kgonz (October 16, 2006 10:47 pm ET)
         

      Mehlman: "let the policy-makers or the personnel deciders know exactly what people said. And they made the decisions."

      Deciders? Is the Republican party trying to convince us that this is actually a word since the Moron-in-Chief used it? Or are they just this stupid?

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    • Author by pick of the litter (October 16, 2006 11:19 pm ET)
         

      Lobbyists got the whole jig rigged.

      Abramoff was once a ringmaster for these freaks and now that the goose drops turds instead of gold eggs, collective amnesia strikes the whole rotten bunch.

      There's a lot of dirt on Abramoff and the Northern Mariana Islands, and his friends in high places:

      " "Abramoff would have had no value without Norquist," said J. Michael Waller, a scholar at the Institute of World Politics who followed the two men at College Republicans. "Norquist was the pivot, he had the speaker of the House as his friend, all the new leadership, all the visionaries for more than a decade."

      In what became known as the K Street Project, the two men pressed lobbying firms to do more business with Republicans, helping to enrich Mr. Abramoff, strengthen Mr. Norquist's influence and fortify Mr. DeLay's power.

      Mr. Norquist and Mr. Abramoff worked together to help Mr. Abramoff's first big client, the Northern Mariana Islands. The garment industry there relies on cheap labor from China, and the local government was trying to avoid imposition of American minimum wage and immigration laws. Mr. Norquist promoted the Marianas in his meetings and speeches as a model of free enterprise, while Mr. Abramoff collected nearly $9 million in lobbying fees and sent members of Congress on fact-finding and golf trips to the islands."

      from: "Link to Lobbyist Brings Scrutiny to GOP Figure", By Kate Zernike and Anne E. Kornblut, The New York Times, Monday 23 May 2004

      [link to www.truthout.org]

      "California Rep. Richard Pombo has insisted he was never lobbied by Jack Abramoff. Records show the disgraced lobbyist billed a client for at least two contacts with Pombo a decade ago.

      The lobbying records released by the Northern Mariana Islands show that Abramoff billed once for calls to Pombo, chairman of the House Resources Committee, and a second time for a discussion with him, while lobbying in 1996.

      On more than two dozen other occasions from 1996 through 2001, Abramoff associates called or met with members of Pombo's staff, including his chief of staff, the records indicate. As the contacts picked up, Pombo voted Abramoff's way on a bill important to Abramoff's clients."

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      "Pombo became Resources Committee chairman in 2003 when then-Majority Leader Tom DeLay, an Abramoff ally, helped jump him over more senior lawmakers."

      from: "Records Suggest Abramoff-Pombo Lobbying Contacts", By Erica Werner, The Associated Press, Tuesday 10 October 2006

      [link to www.truthout.org]

      "Were abusive garment sweatshops, forced abortions and sex trafficking in Saipan, one of the Northern Mariana Islands, protected by Tom DeLay? How did congressional leaders and the Bush administration succeed in blocking labor and immigration reforms there? And how did Jack Abramoff figure into all of this?

      Those are some of the questions we answered after sending an investigative team to Saipan, the main island in the Northern Marianas chain. There, 30,000 "guest workers" - predominately women - from China, the Philippines and Thailand sew clothing for top-name American brands, which are then allowed to label them "Made in USA" because the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) is a US territory. But workers in these factories are not covered by US minimum-wage and immigration laws. "

      from: "Destroying Paradise for Profit", By Rebecca Clarren , Ms. Magazine, Wednesday 26 April 2006

      [link to www.truthout.org]

      Gives the whole "Made in the USA" label a whole new meaning.

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    • Author by unitarianpatriot (October 17, 2006 12:17 am ET)
         

      That half of our voting countrymen can't see right through people like Mehlman? My skin crawls when I see him speaking on TV. He is obviously, for want of a kinder word, lying through his teeth. This whole administration is just so, so rotten. How could Bush have gotten more than 5% of the vote in 2004?

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    • Author by nativeofsf (October 17, 2006 12:46 am ET)
         

      Mehlman babbling dreck is one thing, but to lie about it–as if his head is so full of such importance–thatmakes him a shandeh.

      Du kannst nicht auf meinem rucken pishen unt mir sagen class es regen ist!

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (October 17, 2006 1:52 am ET)
         

      Does anyone really believe anything Mehlman says?

      What a slimy, lying talking point spouting weasel he is.

      I think I will take a shower to wash all the slime off of me.

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    • Author by skiploader1111 (October 17, 2006 4:55 am ET)
         

      of the segment? Did he just refer to himself in the third person or is he trying to say that it was a different Mehlman being talked about in the emails?

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      • Author by JimmyCraghorn (October 17, 2006 10:41 am ET)
           

        He basically said -- who are you going to believe, Mehlman or that criminal Abramoff?.

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    • Author by tex (October 17, 2006 7:42 am ET)
         

      To be a member of this administration, you HAVE to be a congenital LIAR. I mean, really, name one member of this Administration who does NOT lie constantly?

      For a long while now, the "media" has been batting around the idea that many members of Bush's crew are "in denial". What does this mean? It means they are not necessarily lying, but that they are dangerously delusional. Wow. I feel so much better.

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      • Author by peet (October 17, 2006 10:53 am ET)
           

        The lies are just too much. Gone (in my mind) are the days when one can even muster any doubt whether these criminals are lying or being honest about 'not remembering'... Forget it. Enough. To be honest, I'm still amazed how folks can get on this site (Wesley, Conman, et al) and support these low-lifes. How much does one need to finally be slapped into reality.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 17, 2006 9:09 am ET)
         

      Ken Mehlman is a protege of Karl Rove... nuff said.

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    • Author by njguy93 (October 17, 2006 10:23 am ET)
         

      Doesn't Ken Mehlman look like John Mark Karr in that still frame?

      THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by njguy93 (October 17, 2006 10:33 am ET)
         

      Ken Mehlman is A LOT creepier and sleazier and dirtier and messed up than John Mark Karr could ever hope to be. They both tell tall tales as well, which turn out to not be true.

      THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by dan (October 17, 2006 11:56 am ET)
         

      Listen to his answer very closely - he never denies saying he will get the man fired - his answers are non-responsive and - I suspect well crafted to never explicitly deny the truth of the e-mail. Pretty disgusting and totally typical of the current crowd "leading" our nation.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (October 17, 2006 3:04 pm ET)
           

        and still not remember having a lunch with Abramoff ???? carefully crafting an answer requires a well working brain.

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    • Author by doggone-ga (October 17, 2006 12:51 pm ET)
         

      Showing each and every con who has said "I don't remember" in the last few months...one after another after another after another.

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    • Author by olivelawyers (October 17, 2006 1:07 pm ET)
         

      to ask good questions if even Steve Olberman is unable to do so. Last night Steve had Ashcroft on promoting his new book about the 9/11 commission. Steve asked four questions...I should say he read four questions, all of which were good, none of which were interconnected, and none of which resulted in a follow-up after Ashcroft failed to answer them. He was busy reading his next scripted question while Ashcroft did the politico side-step. The problem with TV journalists being responsible for our learning "the truth" is that none of them know how to listen to an answer and formulate a follow-up when the answer is a long-winded evasion. Steve is obviously a smart guy, but I have yet to see any of them do a good job with follow up. Some fox guys have the skill - but instead of asking proper follow-ups to elicit the truth they are more interested in shouting down responses with (usually false) accusations. I think Blitzer is merely incompetent.

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      • Author by olivelawyers (October 17, 2006 1:57 pm ET)
           

        I'd been blasting Blitzer for blindly reporting the Weldon spin that the democrats were responsible for the FBI raid on his daughter's records - huh? and just a moment ago my associate was watching a CNN clip where Blitzer actually asked the reporter about the fact that the decision to raid his daughter's house was made by the Gonzales controlled FBI ... hardly a democratic bashing base.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (October 17, 2006 2:12 pm ET)
           

        the modern day Paul Revere, warning us of incoming misinformation and outright lies.

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