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Carlson: Spencer's reported plastic surgery comment "seems like a plant from Hillary Clinton"

October 24, 2006 1:01 pm ET

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On the October 23 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, discussing an October 23 New York Daily News report, in which Daily News blogger Ben Smith wrote that former Yonkers Mayor John Spencer, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's Republican opponent in the New York Senate race, said Clinton "used to be ugly -- and speculates she got 'millions of dollars' in plastic surgery," host Tucker Carlson claimed that the Daily News story "almost seems like a plant" by the Clinton campaign, because "that's how she wins in every case, when people think she's wronged." Later, Carlson stated, "[I]t seems to me there's a double standard here" in that Clinton says to voters, "on the one hand, 'Treat me like a man,' " and, "on the other hand, she is saying ... 'treat me as a woman.' " Carlson then added that Clinton was the "beneficiary" of this "double standard" during her 2000 senatorial campaign against Republican Rick Lazio, who was "perceived as being rude to a woman" and "somehow ... was a cad" when he confronted her during a debate.

As Media Matters for America has noted, Carlson has previously contended that Clinton "just bulldozes everybody" in the way of her presidential ambitions because there are "so few men" and "so many wussies at the helm" of the Democratic Party that "[n]obody has the huevos to stand up to" her.

From the October 23 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:

CARLSON: A reporter for the New York Daily News claims that John Spencer -- he's the Republican challenger to incumbent Hillary Clinton -- told him on an airplane that Senator Clinton used to be, quote, "ugly."

Spencer supposedly went on to speculate that Clinton got "millions of dollars" in plastic surgery -- whatever that means, quote, "You ever see a picture of her back then? Whew. I don't know why Bill married her."

Well, Spencer has denied making any of these comments, but, of course, it doesn't matter. He wasn't going to win in the first place, but he's been tarred with these comments, regardless.

Joe, it seems to me, leaving aside, again, whether it's fair or unfair, this hurts Republicans everywhere, and it helps Hillary Clinton. It almost seems like a plant from Hillary Clinton --

REV. JOSEPH WATKINS (Republican political consultant): Well, well --

TUCKER: -- from her campaign, 'cause she's the wronged woman yet again, and that -- that's how she wins in every case, when people think that she's wronged.

[...]

CARLSON: Also, Sam, it seems to me there's a double standard here. So, Hillary Clinton is saying, on the one hand, "Treat me like a man. I'm a man. I mean, I'm as good as any man"; and, on the other hand, she is saying, as a lot of female candidates do, frankly, "No, I'm a woman, and treat me as a woman."

Remember six years ago, when she was running for Senate --

SAM GREENFIELD (radio talk show host): Well, number one -- number one --

CARLSON: -- and she -- she was -- and she was dissed. I don't know if we have the video. There it is right there. There's Rick Lazio --

GREENFIELD: Mmm-hmm.

CARLSON: -- and Hillary Clinton. Remember, he marched across the stage and said, here, sign this.

GREENFIELD: Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm.

CARLSON: He was perceived as being rude to a woman --

GREENFIELD: Mmm-hmm.

CARLSON: -- Hillary Clinton, and that somehow, he was a cad or, you know, he had bad taste. It was this double standard, of which she was the beneficiary.

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    • Author by pick of the litter (October 24, 2006 1:34 pm ET)
         

      He should just call his show "The I Hate Hillary Clinton Hour".

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    • Author by draftedin68 (October 24, 2006 1:37 pm ET)
         

      Or have others noticed that the lastest gambit from The Rovian Ministry of Propaganda is a duck-dodge-bob-and-weave campaign designed to shift the MSM's focus from '06 to '08?

      Here puppies, heeere puppies! Go fetch the balls. Go on! Go get 'em, get 'em, go get 'em!

      Thaaat's it!

      Gooood puuuupeees!

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      • Author by pick of the litter (October 24, 2006 2:09 pm ET)
           

        Two weeks left until D-day and yet some media players think it wise to go on about '08?

        Go fetch indeed.

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    • Author by Sagra (October 24, 2006 2:19 pm ET)
         

      with the Coyote Ugly pundits who regularly put words in her mouth.

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    • Author by filkertom (October 24, 2006 2:23 pm ET)
         

      What the h#!& kinda thing is that to say!? Hillary's opponent badmouthing her is a plant?

      I've known for years that Sen. Clinton has no chance to win the presidency, because of the fervent and to an extent deranged opposition she generates... but this is just nuts.

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    • Author by njguy93 (October 24, 2006 2:25 pm ET)
         

      He seems obsessed with her. He just can't get over her. Does he even realize how much of an ass he sounds like? Didn't Tucker confront people before because they supposedly had no evidence about accusations that they were making? Now he's doing the same thing. This ass should at least produce some evidence before saying something stupid like that.

      THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by joanl (October 24, 2006 2:31 pm ET)
         

      and the MSM loves to report the hate that is spewed on Senator Clinton. They have no shame do they?

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    • Author by scooter (October 24, 2006 2:35 pm ET)
         

      Several years ago, I was working at a home that had Fox "News" on in an adjacent room. I was APPALLED by the comments about Hillary and Chelsea, let alone Bill. It was disgusting. You would NEVER hear a real newscaster say such things.

      My business partner said "yeah, they do that sometimes" and proceeded to tell me how "fair and balanced" they are compared to the "Liberal" media.

      I looked into Fox, and discovered quickly how many Fox facts were not facts at all, and how blatantly conservative they were.

      Thanks Fox... I'm a better citizen since discovering your trash.

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    • Author by magnolialover (October 24, 2006 3:31 pm ET)
         

      What does her looks have to do with anything? It doesn't, yet here is more ad hom attacks being made against Hillary. There is no substance to these attacks, just, "She's not pretty."

      Ah well, I'll take an ugly woman leader who knows what she's doing over a super hot woman who doesn't any day of the week.

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    • Author by solon (October 24, 2006 3:49 pm ET)
         

      makes a stupid, juvinile attack on her and in Tuckers world SUPRISE, its her fault. I think it SEEMS like Tucker is a reptilian agent from Zeta Reticuli.

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      • Author by jeter2 (October 24, 2006 5:28 pm ET)
           

        And somehow THIS plant got John Spencer to bad-mouth Hillary? Boy he's good!

        Carlson can't be serious...IF he is, then he's a dolt.

        Hillary has actually evolved from being a "plain-Jane" to IMO, a very attractive lady. I don't believe any nip/tuck was involved, just make-up applied and a flattering hairstyle.

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        • Author by solon (October 24, 2006 6:27 pm ET)
             

          I have noticed in actresses that sometimes they just look better mature than they did when they were young. And perhaps she is willing to spend more money to get people to make her look good than when she just THOUGHT she already looked good. No question there are people out there that could make Linda Hunt look attactive.

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    • Author by jefffrane (October 25, 2006 12:06 pm ET)
         

      What does that mean, anyway? Would these jokers ever think of having this conversation if she wasn't a woman? When have they ever obsessed about whether a male candidate was pretty enough, or had plastic surgery?

      And I have to wonder what they would have said about Golda Meir. "Obviously, she can't be effective because, well, she's not as pretty as the "newscasters" on FoxNews!"

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