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October 25, 2006 5:07 pm ET

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MSNBC's October 24 special, Battleground America, was rife with conservative misinformation, Republican talking points, and falsehoods. Wall-to-wall coverage of the midterm elections, now less than two weeks away, contained a slew of previously debunked claims made -- or left unchallenged -- by NBC News journalists. In one segment, MSNBC political analyst Monica Crowley listed Democrats who would be in line to become committee chairs if the Democrats gained a majority and stated, "This is what you are going to get, ladies and gentlemen, if you vote the Democrats into power. So, I understand dissatisfaction with the Republicans, but think twice before you vote."

Tim Russert

In the hour hosted by NBC News Washington bureau chief and Meet the Press host Tim Russert, Russert failed to challenge a host of false and baseless claims by Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman.

In his first question, Russert cited an article by Nicole Duran in the October 24 edition of Roll Call, headlined "Love Chafee, Hate Bush," asking Mehlman whether he agreed with a pollster's depiction in the article that "[i]f [incumbent Republican Sen.] Lincoln Chafee loses his [Rhode Island Senate] race [against Democratic challenger Sheldon Whitehouse], it's because of President George W. Bush." But Russert left unchallenged Mehlman's response that, in 1998, Republicans "tried to make the election a referendum on President Clinton, while he was being impeached, we ended up losing six seats," a claim Mehlman made as purported evidence that "what's going to matter is who's on the ballot and the individual choices between the candidates running on the ballot." But, as Media Matters for America has previously noted, Mehlman's comparison to the situation now and then is baseless. While President Bush's job approval rating is currently in the 30s, Clinton's approval rating was never lower than 58 percent in 1998, according to the Gallup poll.

Mehlman then suggested that a Democratic Congress would come at the expense of "surrender[ing] the tools we've had after 9-11," a claim similar to one he made on the October 20 edition of NBC's Today, when he told co-host Meredith Vieira that a Democratic Congress would come at the expense of "all the post-9-11 tools we've had," as Media Matters documented. In fact, Democrats have repeatedly said that they support the employment of all effective tools in combating terrorism, in compliance with the law.

John Dickerson

During the first hour of Battleground America, Slate.com chief political correspondent John Dickerson claimed, without explanation or elaboration, that "[y]ou don't know where the Democratic Party is, as a whole, on the war" because "the Democrats are trying, basically, to be all things to all people." Dickerson did not elaborate on the charge, and NBC News chief White House correspondent David Gregory did not challenge his remark.

In fact, as Media Matters has noted, all but six Senate Democrats voted for an amendment introduced by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Jack Reed (D-RI) calling for the Bush administration to begin redeploying U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of 2006. Further, neither Dickerson nor Gregory mentioned recent attempts by Republicans to change their "stay the course" rhetoric on Iraq or note dissension from Republicans on the administration's plan for Iraq. Additionally, Dickerson and Gregory did not mention the fact that Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) claims he knows "there are at least three" Republican Senators who, if the Democrats regain control, will be "freed up to go out and join, in a bipartisan way, to tell the president, 'We are seriously off course.' "

Monica Crowley

During an interview by MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, Crowley baselessly claimed that "most Americans still do not want a classic liberal in a position of power, and that is [House Democratic Leader] Nancy Pelosi [CA]." Crowley made her comment just moments after NBC News correspondent Chip Reid reported that polling shows that House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) has higher negative ratings than Pelosi, saying that "it's possible he is hurting Republicans more than she is hurting the Democrats." Further, as Media Matters noted, public opinion polls do not support Crowley's assertion that "most Americans do not want" Pelosi in a position of power.

Crowley then cited a series of Republican talking points purporting to advise potential listeners to "think twice before you vote." Crowley came to her conclusion after citing a number of Democratic lawmakers who would purportedly become committee chairs "if you vote the Democrats into power" and warning that "it's not just" Pelosi who would likely gain a leadership position.

One of the Democratic congressional members Crowley mentioned was Rep. Charlie Rangel (NY), who she said "never met a tax hike he didn't like." Crowley's comment echoed those of conservative media figures, such as Fox News political analyst and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), who falsely claimed that Rangel "promise[d] to raise taxes" if the Democrats take over the House in the midterm elections.

Tucker Carlson

While reporting on the Virginia Senate race, MSNBC host Tucker Carlson said that incumbent Republican Sen. George F. Allen is now in a tighter race with Democratic challenger Jim Webb because he called a "guy 'Macaca,' whatever the hell that means." Macaca is a genus of monkey and is also reportedly a slur used in Europe and North Africa against people of African descent. S.R. Sidarth, the volunteer to whom Allen addressed his comment, is of Indian descent, but he was reportedly born and raised in Virginia.

As Media Matters noted, on the September 18 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, Carlson described Sidarth as "[t]hat whiny little kid." Carlson added that if Allen "loses because he called this kid 'Macaca,' that's got to be the worst possible reason to lose a race." Carlson asked people who were "gonna vote against George Allen" because of the "Macaca" incident to "[p]lease, have some dignity," and repeatedly stated of the issue: "Who cares?"

On the August 24 edition of Tucker, Carlson also stated, "He's not calling [Sidarth] a widely recognized racist term. ... I've never even heard that word before." He then asked, "[W]ho cares?" On October 24, Carlson repeated his assertion. After Hardball host Chris Matthews asked about the "Macaca" comment and the effect it has had on the Virginia Senate race, Carlson said: "It's hard to disentangle my own feelings, which are, 'Who cares?' "

From MSNBC's October 24 special, Battleground America:

RUSSERT: Joining us now, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Ken Mehlman. Ken Mehlman, welcome. And I'll refer you to the Rhode Island race. This is the front page of the Roll Call newspaper today: "Love Chafee, Hate Bush." And the pollster says very clearly, "If Lincoln Chafee loses his race, it's because of President George W. Bush." Do you agree?

MEHLMAN: I think Lincoln Chafee is going to win his race and he's going to win it because the people of the state know him. I remember back in 1998, Tim, when we tried to make the election a referendum on President Clinton, while he was being impeached, we ended up losing six seats. At the end of the day, what's going to matter is who's on the ballot and the individual choices between the candidates running on the ballot, not just in Rhode Island, but in states all over the country.

[...]

RUSSERT: Chairman Mehlman, last call, do you hold the House and the Senate?

MEHLMAN: I believe we hold both the House and the Senate. I think that voters are going to fundamentally ask themselves the following questions: Do you want to see if you're a family of four making $50,000 a year, your taxes go up by $2,000? That will happen if Democrats take control of either of the two houses of Congress. Do you want to surrender the tools we've had after 9-11? Like the Patriot Act, the surveillance program, the detention program, and the interrogation program for people like Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

Do you want to surrender missile defense? In all these areas, the Democrat [sic] leadership has been in favor of surrendering these tools and making America weaker in the war on terror. Republicans have wanted America to be stronger. I think as our nation faces economic challenges in a global economy and we face a global war on terror, we don't need higher taxes and a weaker national security.

RUSSERT: Republican chairman Ken Mehlman, thank you for joining us. Be safe on the campaign trail.

[...]

GREGORY: John, it's interesting -- so here is where -- Harold Ford running as a more centrist, faith-based Democrat, and yet, at the same time, there is a disconnect between that message and the message of the national Democratic Party, which, particularly on the war, is far to the left of center on how to handle the war.

DICKERSON: Well, you don't know where the Democratic Party, is as a whole, on the war. I mean, you have some people who are quite far to the left of center, and then you have Harold Ford. And the Democrats are trying, basically, to be all things to all people.

But I was talking to some of the Democrats in -- or strategists involved in these races, the second - and third-tier races -- races Democrats didn't think they were really going to be competitive in -- and they talk about Speaker Pelosi and this notion that she might be speaker -- it's been getting in the papers -- and this is not necessarily helping them in their districts where they're trying to pick up those independent voters and even some Republicans who don't like the image of a more liberal Democratic Party, which Pelosi embodies.

GREGORY: All right, we're going to take a break here; we're going to come back with more from John Dickerson and Dan Clydeman.

[...]

REID: And, of course, Joe, Republicans are trying to turn her into some kind of symbol of the Democratic Party -- too liberal, too weak on national security -- but in the most recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 43 percent didn't even know who she is. So, it's going to be a long slog to try to turn her into a real factor in this election. Now, it is 25 percent negative but, in that same poll, Dennis Hastert was 32 percent negative. So, it's possible he is hurting the Republicans more than she is hurting the Democrats.

[...]

CROWLEY: Yeah, but, you know, Joe, that was a different time and a different place in Washington, D.C. What I cannot understand is why Karl Rove and the national Republicans aren't out there every day telling voters what exactly they're going to get if Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats take control of the House of Representatives.

SCARBOROUGH: Well, Monica, that's what's so striking, isn't it? They are back on their heels. They haven't been on the attack for six, nine months.

CROWLEY: Yeah, and it's a huge mistake, because as dissatisfied as many voters are with the Republican Party, you know, most Americans still do not want a classic liberal in a position of power, and that is Nancy Pelosi. And look, Joe, it's not just her.

If you get Democratic control of the Congress, all of those chairmanships are going to change. You're going to have [Sen.] John Conyers [D-MI], who's talked about impeaching the commander in chief in the middle of a war, as head of the judiciary committee. You are going to have Charlie Rangel, who never met a tax hike he didn't like, as head of a -- writing the tax laws in this country.

You are going to have Betty Johnson [sic: Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS)], head of the homeland security committee. Betty Johnson [sic] voted against the Patriot Act and against border security. You're going to have a whole litany -- oh, and I forgot to mention [Rep.] Alcee Hastings [D-FL], in charge of the nation's intelligence in the House. Alcee Hastings, as a judge, was impeached for corruption and perjury.

This is what you are going to get, ladies and gentlemen, if you vote the Democrats into power. So, I understand dissatisfaction with the Republicans, but think twice before you vote.

[...]

CARLSON: You would think, again, that this -- this would be one of the races that would be fought on the issues. Instead, as you said, it turned on this -- this moment where the incumbent Senator Allen was caught calling this guy "Macaca," whatever the hell that means. It's not been clear at this point.

That really was kind of a metaphor, I think, for concerns voters had about George Allen. My own analysis is that Allen, for all his strong points -- and he was a very popular governor here in Virginia -- was considered not only too close to the president on the issues, but too much like the president -- that his personality, his mannerisms, his style of governance are very, very close to those of George W. Bush. They seem like similar guys. And if you don't like George W. Bush, you're probably not going to like George Allen. So, this race, I think, maybe more than any other in the nation, it is, and has been since day one, a referendum on President Bush.

[...]

CARLSON: It's hard to disentangle my own feelings, which are, "Who cares?"

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    • Author by Dem02020 (October 25, 2006 5:15 pm ET)
         

      Think about that, about what they called their "show"...

      Battleground America!

      Over-the-top use (and trivialization) of the word "battleground", or what?

      Why not just call the "show"...

      WAR for America!

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    • Author by rusty shackleford (October 25, 2006 5:19 pm ET)
         

      So MSNBC "political analyst" Monica Crowley actually called Bennie Thompson "Betty Johnson" - TWICE? I hope she got her pink slip this morning, not just for that incredibly stupid mistake but also for her idiotic "analysis."

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 26, 2006 12:30 am ET)
           

        She's what we call "Republican Hot".

        Ridiculously made-up, white washed,inflated and almost to the end of her shelf-life.

        Until the producers of her show can hire her daughter, she'll probably have a "position" there.

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        • Author by rusty shackleford (October 26, 2006 10:53 am ET)
             

          I'll tell you one thing, HBL - Republican Hot sure ain't my idea of hot.

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    • Author by joanl (October 25, 2006 5:19 pm ET)
         

      What a disgrace, the entire MSNBC network needs to be put to sleep.

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      • Author by Con Man (October 25, 2006 5:30 pm ET)
           

        You would dare to speak of Rev. Olbermann that way?!?! The nerve...

        What woooould MMFA do? ;-)

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        • Author by open_mind (October 25, 2006 5:45 pm ET)
             

          Jlyon doesn't like KO. Never has. Never will. Shirley, you have been around here long enough to know that. (Yes, I called you Shirley).

          I wouldn't mind if all of the giant talking heads went away, but then again I only read about them here. I suppose MMFA's focus would go to something else.

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          • Author by joanl (October 25, 2006 5:53 pm ET)
               

            I actually didnt mention KO, and do not have a problem with him the past few months. He has been intelligent and I enjoy his special commentaries. I had problems with his Worst Person in the World, but with the way the right wingers have been spewing hate toward anyone they disagree with I am starting to see the light.

            I do have a problem with Carlson, Matthews, and Imus the hatemonger.

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    • Author by nerzog (October 25, 2006 5:22 pm ET)
         

      to be such a liar.

      What I want to know is where that pig Mehlman gets his figures, claiming that a family of four making $40,000 will pay $2000 more in taxes. Any Bush apologists want to take a stab at that one? Is it based on anything resembling fact, or did Karl Rove just pull that number out of his ass?

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      • Author by nerzog (October 25, 2006 5:51 pm ET)
           

        $50,000

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        • Author by oscar the grouch (October 25, 2006 8:48 pm ET)
             

          but if the rates went back to pre-cut levels along with a corresponding reduction in personal exemptions, child care credits, etc, it would be possible for the additional $2000 in taxes. Likely to happen, no, because even if rates return to pre-cut levels, I don't see politicians decreasing deductions (that would be political death).

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          • Author by nerzog (October 26, 2006 9:38 am ET)
               

            I keep hearing the charge that Democrats will "raise taxes" if elected, but the only thing I've heard proposed by any Democrats is to roll back the tax cuts for the top earners, maybe those above $200,000, which would leave the family in question untouched.

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            • Author by NL207 (October 26, 2006 1:33 pm ET)
                 

              Demonstrating a little ignorance about economics again I see.

              Do you REALLY believe that raising the taxes on "the rich" does not find its way into the pockets of everyone else?

              Wage earners or married couples with incomes over $200,000 occupy some pretty specific niches. These folks are generally well educated professioinals. The ones that aren't are often skilled tradesmen with their own businesses, like plumbers, electricians and HVAC technicians. Theuy almost all share one common trait: They are their own agents when it comes to negotiating their fees and wages.

              Let's play a little game theory with these people. Lets raise their cost base. It can be the cost of copper tubing if we are talking about Louis Padini & Sons Plumbing Service. What does patriarch Louis do when this happens? He makes a basic decision: do I pass this new cost on to my customers? If he percieves the demand for his service as relatively inelestaic, then you can be sure the higher price for copper tubing will appear in his next bid down at the bottom line. Louis isn't going to pay himself or his sons any less. Now let's suppose that Louis' increased cost is a tax levied against him or his business. He is going to treat this just as all businessmen treat this: as a cost of doing business. He will pass it to his customers as soon as the martket will bear it.

              Virtually ALL of the people the Democrats label as "rich" have the luxury of setting their own rates, and EVERYBODY who buys from them pays when the clever demogogues 'screw the rich'.

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            • Author by oscar the grouch (October 26, 2006 7:40 pm ET)
                 

              say that (also noted on this site a while back), that if the Ds control Congress, they would let the tax cuts expire, which I believe would affect all the rates, including the bottom (now 10%, was 15%). Did I misread, mishear???

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      • Author by fantagor (October 25, 2006 6:37 pm ET)
           

        This is a favorite technique of the Republicans. They take one person who'd have to pony up an extra $50,000 in taxes with 24 people who'd see a ZERO dollar tax increase, divide by 25 and viola! on AVERAGE they would have to pay $2,000 more in taxes. Taken as a nation of tax payers, with all the rich people's taxes included, the average is around $2,100. Remember: Bill Gates, all sports stars, Hollywood stars and directors and all the top 1% are factored into that average. Remove them and I wonder what the REAL average among Middle Class and Working Poor would be. Perhaps ZERO dollars, a feasible number, since most of us don't typically have an extensive portfolio of long term (held) stocks which qualify for the 15% rate. And in case people haven't been paying attention, the rollback (of the tax breaks) would be aimed at the top 1%, who, believe it or not, need the money less than our nearly bankrupt government does.

        Shocking that, once again, it’ll fall to the DEMOCRATS to instill a culture of fiscal responsibility, a core value of Barry Goldwater’s long since forgotten by the fat, lazy hubris-laden GOP elephant which is ruining the country with extreme prejudice.

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 26, 2006 12:48 am ET)
             

          Listen (if you can take it) to Hannity or Limbaugh any day and they'll invariably bring up the tax stats. Then do the math.

          I should write down the figures, don't quote me on the numbers, but a common one is something like "40 million Americans will get an average of 2,000 dollars back" under Bush's cuts.

          To the average dittohead that sounds like this; "40 million Americans (heck, thats everybody in my town at least, maybe everybody in the US of A) will get an average of $2,000 (average? I live in the best trailer park in town, I gotta get double that!).

          Actually, 40 million is about 13% of the 300 million mark we just hit, which we can assume is the top 13% if the righty shills are trying to sell the Bush program, which means that top 10% of the country (which has most of the dough) plus another 3% outside of the Mount Olympus neighborhood is going to AVERAGE a pretty good tax cut.

          I am not expecting anything more than Bush tax cuts have gotten me so far in his reign of stoopidity. I am expecting to get further behind until he is gone.

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        • Author by NL207 (October 26, 2006 1:47 pm ET)
             

          "the rollback (of the tax breaks) would be aimed at the top 1%, who, believe it or not, need the money less than our nearly bankrupt government does. "

          Since when does the government have a pre-eminent right to assets or property of ANY citizen regardless of means? It was the same sort of thought processes that produced the abominable Kelo v. New London decision from the Supreme Court, a decision that sets as precedent the right of any local government to sieze any private property in their jurisdiction from one private citizen and transfer it to another private citizen if the recipient agrees to pay the government more taxes on the property.

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          • Author by open_mind (October 26, 2006 11:31 pm ET)
               

            "a decision that sets as precedent the right of any local government to sieze any private property in their jurisdiction from one private citizen and transfer it to another private citizen if the recipient agrees to pay the government more taxes on the property." --nl207

            ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

            Actually you are exaggerating a bit about Kelo. The decision in Kelo specified that the ruling only applied where local law, state laws/Constitution and the US Constitution applied. This case may have ended differently had it been applied to a different jurisdiction. Some states' laws/Constitutions would not allow Kelo to happen there.

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            • Author by NL207 (October 27, 2006 10:42 am ET)
                 

              But my original point about it is still correct:

              As follows: The Kelo decision put the siezure entirely under local control. As you observed, SCOTUS ruled that state and local law must permit the siezure to be carried out. It is a simple matter for the local city council to meet and approve the siezure of a property in the absence of state level direction to do otherwise. SCOTUS just opened the flood gates to any local government to enact property siezure laws as eminient domain.

              And it is true that the state legislatures can also act to regulate or forbid such actions within their state as a whole. They can also act to PERMIT such siezures.

              The operative point remains, something that used to be a matter of constitutional protection has just been reduced to the staus of statutory protection [much less secure] from state and local government by SCOTUS. This is in effect an erasure of one of the most fundamental guarantees of libertyy in the constitution and an erosion of private property rights in general.

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    • Author by dangrady (October 25, 2006 5:57 pm ET)
         

      She could be Monica to my Bill Clinton.

      She special insights to offer outside of the Talking Points for her master, pretty blonde makes the message some how more appetizing.

      Do Reporters have to have any credentials, or should they just go straight to "strip news broadcasting."

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    • Author by mefirst (October 25, 2006 7:30 pm ET)
         

      she repeats gop talking points down to the letter. "i understand dissatisfaction with the republicans, but think twice before you vote".

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    • Author by carolinacal (October 25, 2006 9:05 pm ET)
         

      the liars and spinners, these attractive well turned out shills, protecting their own large incomes, because if the country turns they will need new jobs, new sources of income.

      Perhaps the Democrats will re-institute the fairness doctrine, or something like it to help prevent the out and out lies spewed in the media.

      Thanks so much MM, you are sent from heaven to help us through this very dark dark time.

      Please Please keep up the good work.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (October 26, 2006 12:50 am ET)
           

        How many working people they can get to vote for their( the rich shills) interests.

        Suckers.

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        • Author by MickD (October 26, 2006 12:53 pm ET)
             

          ...but women. The Repubs have proven themselves time and again as a anti-women party (even beyond the reproductive issue). "Scary" Nancy Pelosi, for example, is just another code to their patriarchal synchophants the (my god) we might have a woman in power!

          Yet woman vote for them, they pay off Crowley and her ilk to make them look like average women cheering for BushieCo and in the end they vote against themselves. Amazing.

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    • Author by vapaday (October 27, 2006 8:04 am ET)
         

      NBC/MSNBC should stop pretending that it is an unbiased news source. They have no backbone, and are nothing more than glorified secretarie for the right. However, the classic is Tucker. This guy is so full of hot air, I am amazed that he has'nt floated away. His self indulgence, grossly inflated view of himself and his conflated opinions, is nothing short of pathetic. I am stupified as to why he is slotted during the prime newstime. His interviews are just short of a bowel movement and his questions are infantile and his responses are generally nothing more that ramblings. One does not need a colonic, when we have Tucker.

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    • Author by treddy09974 (October 27, 2006 5:27 pm ET)
         

      Hi Mr. Tucker,

      I heard you were shrugging off macaca comment by Mr. George Macaca Allen and you don't care that he said it and it should be a non-factor in senate elections. I think by ignoring the fact that it reflects very much the charatcter and attitudes Mr. Macaca Allen has towards fellow humans who don't share his skin color, I think it also reflects on your character and your ignorance and insensitivity towards the situation. Probably you were never been in that situation in your life. I don't know if you have kids. When you have, if your kid is ever singled out in a group by a person of authoirty and power and called names like "you're a MOFUBA" and "you go back to whereever you came from", and when your kid comes crying to you when he finds it means a very bad insult, then hopefully you will understand the situation and what it all really means.

      Treddy

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