"Hannity & Colmes exclusive" to feature "Swift Boat veterans' react[ion]" to Kerry comments
During the 8 a.m. ET hour of the November 2 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, a commercial ran for "a Hannity & Colmes exclusive," during which "the Swift Boat veterans react, sounding off about" Sen. John Kerry's (D-MA) recent remarks on Iraq. The segment, which will presumably feature the smear-mongering Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (now Swift Vets and POWs for Truth), will air, according to Fox News, on the November 2 edition of Hannity & Colmes.
But Swift Boat Veterans leader John O'Neill appeared on the November 1 broadcast of Mark Levin's radio show, undermining Fox News' claim to an "exclusive." On Levin's show, O'Neill called Kerry "a serial offender and slanderer of the military," a "buzzard," a "creature," a "dummy," and a "locust" who "eats people's honor."
From the November 2 Fox News teaser:
ANNOUNCER: It's a Hannity & Colmes exclusive. The Kerry controversy set off a political firestorm. Now, the Swift Boat Veterans react, sounding off about the senator's statements. Tonight, only one show has the exclusive -- only Hannity & Colmes. Don't miss it.
From the November 1 broadcast of ABC Radio Networks' The Mark Levin Show:
O'NEILL: There's no question. He's [unintelligible] to win an election than a war. He's a serial offender and slanderer of the military. He's been doing it -- it's been his basic pitch for 35 years. It reflects his hatred of the military, whom he considers to be neither his intellectual nor social equals. He's expressed it openly and often for nearly 35 years.
LEVIN: So when he says that this is a -- you're a Democrat, or at least you were --
O'NEILL: Right.
LEVIN: When he says this is the Republicans twisting what he says, this is the president of the United States who's out of order here, and he's diverting attention and all the rest of it -- more damnable lies.
O'NEILL: The thing I got that I hope every American gets a chance to see, Mark -- I just sent it to you when you asked me to be on this show -- is a message sent by a bunch of Americans in the Army in Iraq, and they have a -- it's hard to describe it, but they have a large banner out, and it misspells all the words to make fun of Kerry. It says, "Halp Us Kerry" -- misspelled H-A-L-P -- "We are stuck here in Iraq." And of course, they did it to mock Kerry. It's the only way to respond, if you're a kid in Iraq, to some -- to a creature like this. He is truly a locust. He eats people's honor, and that's what he's always done.
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O'NEILL: That's what so terribly cowardly about Kerry, Mark. These kids have no way at all of responding. They're not even allowed to politically comment. They're far away from home, they're volunteers 100 percent, they didn't get stuck anywhere, they volunteered to go there. And they have some buzzard like Kerry back in the United States saying this stuff, and they can't really defend themselves. They have to depend on people like you and me to do that, or there is no defense at all for them.
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O'NEILL: You were talking about Pennsylvania. I had a mother who was from Philadelphia who has two kids who have MBAs, both of whom volunteered to go to Iraq and are right there now with the Marines, call me up. You know -- first of all, both of her kids are a lot smarter than that dummy Kerry, I can promise you that. I debated that guy in 1971, and he is truly a stiff in intellectual ability as well as integrity.
.....That Sean Hannity would milk this until his udders are squealing. Maybe he will go out on tour with them this coming weekend for rallies and concerts to keep this story alive.
He is pathetic. John Kerry has been shelved by the Democratic leaders until at least mid next week, is there anyone that can do the same with these hack pundits?
This is not a suprise, Hannity will sit down with these liars and spew more hate toward Senator Kerry.
My point was that Kerry is not the issue in this election. He is irrelevant. For anymore airtime to be devoted to him is transparent Republican politicking.
I agree with what your saying, my point is that Kerry is a punching bag for the Hannitys and Rushes and other Conservative hatemongers. The issues in this election are and should be Iraq and Republican Arrogance of Power. Not a joke that Kerry said and not digging up the hateful O'Neill.
is wrong with you people? This site is not about Tommy. He has a huge ego and clearly thinks his opinion itself is worth discussing.
Its not. Get back on topic.
You didn't get the memo......"Name Change. MMFA is being replaced by TMFA - Tommy Matters for America"
Send me $24.95 for a T-shirt emblazened with the new logo. All proceeds go to right wing causes.
Most of the cable folks (with the exception of Fox) have moved on to the story of the day for Thursday:the NYTimes/CBS poll on climbing numbers of dissatisfaction of handling the war in Iraq. And the President's apparant lack of a plan.
Fox reminds me of the guy at the bar who just wants one more drink before closing time. You remember, the obnoxious one that is drunk.
The Swift Boaters are going to do what they are going to do. But as I said yesterday, now the repubs are back to finding another way to refocus the debate off of the war. Kerry is on hold and the Swift Boaters may do more good for Dems than Repubs because people are now saying Kerry is old news and that news cycle is over.
As for Fox, they will try to scare everyone with a supposed special on those radical islomic fundatmentalist. That one should be a hoot.
Just a general question, you seem very fair why do some people on here attack you as being a conservative troll when you seem to be fair especially in your assessment of Hannity?
Thank you. But you would have to ask them specifically. My guess would be some people here welcome opposing opinions as a challenge to strengthen their own, others are threatened by them as it weakens theirs.
Casac,
Just to follow up, as you can see by the responses to your question, some here have no issue with differing opinions and have enough convictions of their own to be confident and articulate, without misrepresentation.
However, the others who have responded are not so fortunate. They couldn't wait to respond so they could mischaracterize my positions as "absurd" or "Jekyll and Hyde-ish". If they disagree with me, that is fine. To label it as they did is desperate and revealing of their own character, or lack thereof.
>>>"They couldn't wait to respond so they could mischaracterize my positions as "absurd""<<<
Tommy: pure as the driven snow, would never say anyone looks "silly" or "ridiculous", for example.
"foolish" and "whining."
I have never, ever, called the following posters who spring to mind immediately as "foolish, whining, silly or ridiculous"
jeter2, jlyon, worrierking, open_mind, lostlogic, barrygoldwater...., nerzog, (if I am forgetting others, I apologize).
I might be a little "rusty" on the other names.
"not fair"?
(tongue in cheek) (joke)
Thank you, it wasnt my intention to start a war, I just cant figure out why. I have read your postings and dont see anything strange or "troll" like.
It's just very revealing who responded, and how.
That's all.
It's just very revealing who responded, and how.
Indeed.
If you touch on one of his hot button issues, he turns into a fire-breathing maniac, and sometimes uses less than honest debate tactics. However, you are correct, he is usually fair and balanced...plus, he now seems to believe that the Iraq War was a bad idea, which I think is a softening of his original position.
Tommy is one of the better people posting on MMFA. I hardly ever agree with him but he is fair and backs up his points. He does not attack people personally or call them trolls like some do.
J, sometimes fair and sometimes backs up his points. If you were genuinely familiar with his history here, you would not be able to claim anything of the sort in such general terms.
Tommy tends to make absurd comments and then dig himself into a hole when people call him out on it. That's the Jekyll-and-Hyde nature he has, as Nerzog said he "wears many hats". There's a long history of this behavior for him here, much longer than you've been around, and some recent examples display the behavior remarkably well.
but your question sounds eerily Jeff Gannonish...or maybe more like that one town hall meeting where the woman asks Bush why he's so great.
From the Simpsons episode where Burns runs for governor:
Burns Advisor: Little girl, do you think you can memorize this by dinnertime tomorrow?
Lisa: "Mr. Burns: your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?''
Burns Advisor: Very good.
Burns spits out the 3-eyed fish. A perfect analogy of American politics and media.
Hey Casac;
I can answer that question, say Taxes and Democrats in the same breath and Tommy is willing to sell democracy, oversight, and his civil liberties down the sh-tter.
An investigation should be made into if the repubs are behind the lurking O"Neill returning. This is one disgusting person. Hell has a place for O'Neill.
Who do you think is funding the Swift Liars? My guess is that some of our tax dollars have been used to pay these lying bastards.
They lied about Kerry in 2004 and now they are lying about him in 2006. But that is what we would expect. Here's some irony for you: they are criticizing Kerry for something he DIDN'T say, for what the GOP slime machine decided to spin it into, then they go on to insult Kerry's intelligence, all of this while ignoring the fact that these jerks, who said they "served" with John Kerry, were nowhere near John Kerry in Vietnam.
These men have the credibility of Bush's WMD claims. They are the scum of the Earth. I don't care that they served this country or not. I can't help but regret that some VC sharpshooter was asleep while these unscrupulous bastards were preening through the jungles of Vietnam. Just think: a well placed high caliber bullet is all it would have taken to save us having listening to these morons.
is the dummy. He doesn't realize his fifteen minutes of fame are up. It looks like Karl Rove called out the retreads from 2004 and promised them some more cash. Wonder what that Steve Gardner guy is doing. He was on TV after the 2004 election saying that he lost his job because he spoke out against John Kerry. He could use the money. He better take it up front this time. John O'Neill has been after John Kerry since 1971 and now he's using this to bash Kerry again over nothing. The guy just can't get over John Kerry. He needs help.
THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com
John O'Neill is slime , he is the most hateful person when it comes to Kerry. FAUX and others will give him his air time but that hate wont help next week. Why? Because John Kerry is not the issue. Flawed Iraq policy is.
O'Neill was hired by Nixon's team to debate Kerry when Kerry was getting the attention of the media in the early seventies. O'Neill has been a parasite ever since.
and Kerry bitch-slapped his little "Neidermier" ass clear off the set. O'Neill has had a hard-on for him ever since.
hannity and all of fnc accused the dems of blatantly jumping on and tring to drag out the foley scandal for political gain. hannity even tried to declare it a dead issue...yet now hannity is doing the same thing the dems were but 10 fold and on something far less offensive than what foley did.
hannity's hypcrisy is complete.
...but ill continue to watch because he is fun and entertaining
has done some good for your ability to think.
and what have you done with him?
THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com
and see if there's a big green pod down there.
you guys dont give any credit and are therefore shocked to see that a conservative sees through obvious political shekanery. you need to realize there is a difference between INDEPENDENT conservatives who like SAVAGE and bushbot repubs who like sean vanity and oreilly. ppl like me dont like bush or most of the republicans because they are TOO liberal and put business interests/party power over conservative values.
Let's kick out these mamby pamby populist moderate country club Republicans, and put some REAL troglodytes in power.
I think I'll go barf now.
but you have no idea what a liberal is.
I'm no talking about politicains, I'm talking about liberals. Corporate interest is the antithesis of liberalism. Liberal heroes have always been champions of the voiceless. Think M.L. King, Mother Jones and Ghandi.
that's one thing i like about liberalism, TRUE liberals don't like selling out to big business and corporate interests who only have an interest in lining their pockets while at the same time selling the public and average joe schmoe short. that's one thing i'm liberal on and one reason why im independent and not republican.
see liberals were perfect back in the 50s/60s when they were a voice for the downtrodden and fighting for women's rights, workers' rights, and minority rights. it should have stopped there but they've gone too far to the left in the name of progress and alienated all the christians who came on board when they jumped on the abortion bandwagon and tried to remove any mention of God from all public venues. had they not pushed those, everyone would be a democrat.
"had they not pushed those, everyone would be a democrat."
Instead, we'll just have to settle for the majority. I'll take it.
with little power?
tp remove any mention of God from all public venues, only the "government" ones.
Only where mention of God is not historical and is given preferential treatment over other ideas/points of view.
The problem with some Christians is that they apparently think their freedom of religion rights are somehow more important or greater than people with differing views.
Rights are rights. Everyone has equal rights to each other with regards to religion. Christian rights are not more important.
Liberalism is all about individual rights and values. We believe Christianity or any other religion should not be the basis for law-making. We believe in a "secular" government with ideals of our founding fathers. We support gay marriage because a religion should not be the basis for a decision against it (and the arguements against gay marriage are pathetic to begin with). Abortion is a tough issue and nobody in thier right mind could be completely against or for it. If you weigh the pros and cons of abortion you will see that the pros far outweigh the cons. I recommend reading an economic outlook on abortion (Freakonomics has a section about it) and you will see how helpful abortions can actually be in a society.
read "The Ten Commandments & Their Influence on American Law" by Federer and you will see that the bible and the 10 commandments have already played a historical role in the shaping of american law. as for abortion, anyone who makes an economical argument for not allowing life to develop (perhaps simply because only poor people do it?) misses the whole point.
How many Commandments are codified into US law?
I would think that if it was indeed true that "the bible and the 10 commandments have already played a historical role in the the shaping of american[sic] law" then that role would have to be a very minor one.
Roman Common Law (via English Common Law) is the real anticedant to American Law. Our country was established during the Age of Reason. Reason exists independent of religion and is secular in nature.
suggesting that "Weiner" is any better than "Slanthead"?
savage is actually THOUGHTFUL and comes up with clever things to say (even if they are over the top). whereas hannity sits there and regurgitates republicant talking points and when he interviews someone he mindlessly nods and you can tell he is just waiting for them to stop talking so he can make his next point.
Wiener is insane while Hannity is just dumb as dirt
call into his show sometime. im sure he'd let you on and that would be entertaining. it's a good show.
Hannity has mastered a few debate cheap tricks and as long as he is controlling the mic, he can survive. I will agree he is not all that intelligent.
Savage's is just batsh1t crazy. There is no other explanation that suffices.
This clown O'Neill is really over the top. A "locust" who "eats people's honor"? Sounds like something Dr. Wiener would say.
A locust who eats peoples honor...sounds kind Sci-fi doesn't it? :-O
I rarely watch Hannity & Colmes anymore, there's just so much of Hannity I can take without wanting to barf. I think ONLY the FAR-Right neocons love his shtick.
I may tune in tonight just to watch Hannity fall all over O'Neil and act like a school girl with a crush.
Of course I can't stand Kerry either, so I might even get some perverse pleasure out of this too. Just being honest.
You have a much stronger stomach than I do, old top.
Yeah I used to watch H and C just to see how much air time Alan Colmes got to actually speak. It still has not reached above the 5 minute mark, but people can dream can't they?
has yet to put on any U.S. military uniform and serve.
What a friggin circus! Now we have the Swiftboat Nutjobs for Revenge back in action? Let's stir up even more hatred and divisiveness in the country. Sean Hannity is beneath contempt. I am just sorry that decorum doesn't allow me to tell you what I really think.
Ironically, Kerry has provided Karl Rove with his October surprise. Even though I believe Kerry's explanation, his carelessness may have helped the Democrats snatch Defeat from the Jaws of Victory. The troglodytes will capitalize on this with no mercy, and their knuckledragging base will, of course, tag slavishly along without even blinking.
We're definitely gonna take the House. The Senate is going to be very close...
again using the voting machines, and blame it all on Kerry's comments.
I think your defeatism is a greater danger to our cause than Kerry. If there are a considerable number of people like you who concede the issues to the conservative squawk machine, we're dead. People only have the power over you that you give to them.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Kerry helped our cause not hurt it. People don't like doormats. By coming out counterpunching, he showed the public that Dems can be passionate and call out these right-wing liars.
I am cynical by nature, and having seen the Republicans steal 3 straight elections, I have trouble being optimistic. Having said that, I fully intend to vote Tuesday, and will vote a straight Democratic ticket.
By the way, I also enjoyed seeing Kerry defiant in the face of the Karl Rove Lying Machine. Too bad he didn't do that in 2004. Too bad more Democratic leaders don't do that now.
You are a person after my own heart.
Keep on Keepin' on.
I'm glad that you can see through Sean Hannity for what he truly is, but I'm disappointed that you apparently can't see through Savage Weiner for what he truly is. Savage Weiner was a total bushbot in 2002 and 2003, until Iraq started going badly. Then he conveniently changed his positions. He said in March of 2003 that it was ridiculous to think that oil was a factor in why America invaded Iraq, and then in November of 2003 he said oil was a factor into why America invaded Iraq, and then made some joke about George Bush thinking with his "big head" instead of Clinton thinking with his "little head." The guy simply saw the writing on the wall and began changing his positions. If George Bush was doing well in the polls, he would still be a total bushbot like Hannity and O'Reilly and others.
THANK YOU. njguy93@yahoo.com
By calling this show an "exclusive" it almost sounds like people actually care about what John O'Neill has to say and that Faux News beat out other networks to interview him.
Art Vandelay is posting on THIS thread too!
All we need now are Jerry, Elaine...and Newman.
who I think should be "The Drake" with the whole trying-to-be-civil 12 step program I'm in.
HATE the Drake.
But loved the Drakette until she gave away the TV.
I hate The Drake
"Kerry always botched the punch line in Vietnam, too!"
Except that O'Neill never served with Kerry nor had interactions with him in Vietnam. That's the whole joke about this jerk.
Here's the AP piling on:
[link to www.comcast.net]
Here's the first line: "During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to "the perpetuation of war crimes."
Hmmmm....seems that the Iraq fiasco has proven him right.
Hannity hates John Kerry. He wants to defeat Kerry at the polls. Wait... Kerry's not running. Hannity is dumber than dirt. At this point the Swifties and Hannity aren't going to change anyone's minds about anything. They are just again gratuitously picking at that old scab called Viet Nam. Great Americans... yea, right.
O'Neill & Hannity could not provide a crumb.
Here are two men completely devoid of spirit.
Kerry refuses to release his military record, there will be Swift Vets reminding us...
"On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an ''undeleted" copy of his ''complete military service record and medical record" to the Globe." --Boston Globe
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Do try to keep up with the news.
The misinformation merchants on the right must be out in full force. This is the second time this week I have had to swat a conservative on the nose with the Boston Globe. Bad boy! Baaaaad Boy!
Kerry has released his documents. Therefore your theory is demonstratably false.