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Mitchell baselessly suggested misleading Republican "robocalls" are "the kind of procedure that both parties have used"

November 07, 2006 2:11 pm ET

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SUMMARY: NBC News' Andrea Mitchell baselessly suggested that making "robocalls," such as the one "being used in Illinois against [Democratic congressional candidate] Tammy Duckworth" is "the kind of procedure that both parties have used -- clearly -- but the Republicans have used it more this year than not."

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On the November 7 edition of MSNBC's Decision 2006: Battleground America, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell baselessly suggested that making "robocalls," such as the one "being used in Illinois against [Democratic congressional candidate] Tammy Duckworth" is "the kind of procedure that both parties have used -- clearly -- but the Republicans have used it more this year than not." In fact, the robocall from the National Republican Campaign Committee (NRCC) targeting Duckworth, which Mitchell aired, as well as many other reported robocalls made by the NRCC across the country, have been referred to as "false flag" robocalls because they do not identify the party responsible at the beginning of the call. Democrats have said that the absence of that identification at the outset might lead prospective voters to believe they are being harassed by the Democratic candidate the call targets, rather than the Republican group that sponsored the call; contrary to Mitchell's assertion, Media Matters for America has seen no reports of similar accusations leveled against the NRCC's Democratic counterpart, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), or any other Democratic entity. As Media Matters has noted, several media reports leading up to the midterm elections have baselessly asserted that Republicans and Democrats equally engage in "dirty tricks" while providing only Republican examples or filling the evidentiary void by asserting that, despite their lack of evidence of Democratic shenanigans, they're either going to do it or just haven't been caught yet.

Besides Illinois, there have been reports in local media outlets of robocalls on behalf of Republican candidates in a number of other states as well, including North Carolina, Pennsylvania, New York, New Mexico, Kansas, New Hampshire, Maryland, Montana, and Tennessee.

While Mitchell did point out that the calls are "misleading" because "people hang up before they hear who the caller is," she baselessly suggested that Democrats had placed similar robocalls. Mitchell also failed to note charges that some of these Republican robocalls violate the law. The New Hampshire Union Leader reported on November 6 that New Hampshire's attorney general's office believes that Republican robocalls being used there "may have violated New Hampshire law by contacting residents listed on the federal Do Not Call registry."

According to blogger Joshua Micah Marshall, "If you don't listen through the whole message, the machine keeps calling you back, often well in excess of half a dozen times with the same call. It only stops if you listen all the way through. As you can imagine, that's driving a lot of people through the roof."

From the November 7 decision of MSNBC's Decision 2006: Battleground America:

MITCHELL: Let me ask you about some of the techniques -- you've talked about the get-out-the-vote effort. Let me ask you about some of these techniques that are being used this year, particularly, the automated voting. Let's take a listen to one of these robocalls being used in Illinois against Tammy Duckworth.

ANNOUNCER [audio clip]: Hello, I'm calling with information about Tammy Duckworth. Tammy Duckworth said she would seriously consider repealing part of the recent federal tax cut. Tammy Duckworth's plan could mean higher taxes for married couples and the death tax would return. And repealing the current child tax credit would mean that the tax credit would get cut in half. Tammy Duckworth is wrong on taxes and wrong for Illinois.

This call was paid for by the National Republican Congressional Committee and not authorized by any candidate or candidates' committee. Www.nrcc.org. Thank you for your time.

MITCHELL: Danny, how do you, how do you defend that?

DANNY DIAZ (Republican National Committee spokesman): Well, that's a call from another committee but, ultimately, it's talking about Tammy Duckworth's record; it's right on the mark. She is not for -- she's not for making the tax cuts permanent. She does have a weak record, and she would be part of a party that would increase taxes on the American people $2.4 trillion. And, ultimately --

MITCHELL: They have -- they've denied that but, in any case, what about the fact of having these calls come, these automated calls -- they are misleading, they are often -- people hang up before they hear who the caller is. I mean, isn't this the kind of procedure that both parties have used -- clearly -- but the Republicans have used it more this year than not?

DIAZ: Well, I mean, these aren't the RNC's calls and I can't speak to what another committee is doing. But what I can say is that we're aggressively getting out the message and Tammy Duckworth is not for making the tax cuts permanent.

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (November 07, 2006 2:22 pm ET)
         

      There is one party and one party only that is trying to get people NOT to vote.

      How hard is it to figure out from the information coming in?

      It is obvious that the big media DON'T want to know what is going on.

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      • Author by shoes89 (November 07, 2006 5:19 pm ET)
           

        MMFA: "Media Matters has seen no reports of similar accusations leveled against any Democratic entity."

        Oh, really?

        How about this?

        Or this?

        Or this?

        Or this?

        (And then there's this.)

        It looks like someone at MMFA needs to amend the posting. Of course there has been Democratic "shenenigans"!

        Thank you.

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        • Author by snoopy (November 07, 2006 5:50 pm ET)
             

          if it weren't for the fact that the most were calls asking for support, not to make you think it was a dem and then criticizing the dem. over and over and over again. try again, you seem to have worn out your shoe.

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        • Author by dave_chicago (November 07, 2006 6:46 pm ET)
             

          One thing's for certain: you're an incompetent, amateurish researcher. Almost all of these don't come close to what we're discussing here.

          Looks like you need to post an apology and retraction. You've failed to make a case and only made Media Matters' case stronger: you dished out even more conservative misinformation.

          Stick to the one thing you are halfway skilled at: doing HTML bold and italics.

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          • Author by zerosumgame0005 (November 07, 2006 7:01 pm ET)
               

            shoes is off to freeper-land to copy and paste more off-topic drek.

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            • Author by shoes89 (November 07, 2006 7:47 pm ET)
                 

              I've provided a number of concrete examples of illegal and/or misleading "robocalls," and, without any sort of substantial rebuttal, I'm accused of "conservative misinformation" and "off-topic drek." Uhh, OK.

              BTW, carlileb5935, MMFA is not only referring to "false flag" robocalls. Read the post.

              Thank you.

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              • Author by mefirst (November 07, 2006 8:06 pm ET)
                   

                the first one was to christopher shays website, a republican running for office, and his site says it was misleading calls based on the charges made in the call. there was no contention made that the democrats were pretending to be anything but who they were. that is the charge being made about the repeat republican robocalls. they are pretending that they are from the democratic candidate and not identifying themselves as the republican party until the end. the other two i looked at simply didn't like robocalls. nothing illegal there. as usual, you are a fountain of misinformation yourself.

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              • Author by dave_chicago (November 07, 2006 8:15 pm ET)
                   

                >>"concrete example"<<

                Direct your narrow field of vision to mefirst's post, below.

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (November 07, 2006 7:20 pm ET)
             

          MMFA is referring to improper 'false flag' robocalls, not the phenomenon in general. No one's objecting to robocalls in and of themselves--- the counter examples concerning Shays et. al. are pointless, they don't refer to the same thing AT ALL.

          Tell me, is it possible for right wing defenders to ever engage in to-the-point debates about the issues? Their analogies are always completely inapt.

          Is it I.Q., or what?

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      • Author by tex (November 07, 2006 6:22 pm ET)
           

        It's TRUE that "both sides do it", and maybe in equal proportions. Regardless, the LAW should be slammed down HARD on every perpetrator. Every single violator should be JAILED, and fined into poverty.

        I'm good with that, and I'd hate to see some Dems go down. But with such a ZERO TOLERANCE approach, for every Dem that wound up in prison, the GOP would fill up an entire WING of that prison.

        And that's the way it is.

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        • Author by zerosumgame0005 (November 07, 2006 7:00 pm ET)
             

          progressives by and large are for Law AND Order, neo-cons are primarily interested in ORDER. In fact YOU following THIER orders. Which is of course the very reason they hate the Constitution so much. Not one single word in the Constitution restricting what people can do, only what the Fed is not supposed to do. Drives those numb-nuts up the wall :)

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (November 07, 2006 7:22 pm ET)
             

          that "both sides do it."

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    • Author by snoopy (November 07, 2006 2:40 pm ET)
         

      [link to rawstory.com]

      I hope you reich wing wackjobs lose big today.

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    • Author by watershed (November 07, 2006 3:18 pm ET)
         

      In trying to somehow "get" this guy on these robocalls, all she succeeds at is giving this guy another chance to get his talking points out.

      Great job, Andrea.

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    • Author by mefirst (November 07, 2006 3:22 pm ET)
         

      telling people to vote on wednsday, or you can't vote if you owe rent, or if you have outstanding parking tickets. if you need any concrete proof of their dishonesty, look no further than the u. s. senate race in new hampshire in 2002. there were three republicans tried and convicted, including james tobin bush's 04 new england chairman, for hiring a company to jam democratic phone lines on election day. and the national republican party paid all their legal bills. that's why amoral scum like karl rove sits at bush's side. two peas in a pod.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (November 07, 2006 3:37 pm ET)
           

        that little is heard about this stuff in most of the media?

        I heard a caller on Rush Limbaugh a day or two ago telling him about phone calls between 10pm and 3 am that she was getting.and hanging up because she heard a Democrats name. If I heard her right, she finally listened to the entire thing and realized the call was slamming the Dem.

        El Rushbo didn'thave an explanation ready, so after a few seconds she says "It's probably the Democrats making these, to make the Republicans look bad."

        The Oxymoron, while claiming to know nothing about these calls, assured her she was probably right.

        She seemed satisfied.

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    • Author by sasami (November 07, 2006 3:50 pm ET)
         

      Absolutely despicable. What depths won't they sink to? I used to think Democrats were just as bad as Republicans -- and some of them are -- but this is awful.

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    • Author by open_mind (November 07, 2006 3:54 pm ET)
         

      My wife informed me that she spent a big chunk of time on Monday cleaning out the voicemails from our voicemail.

      It turns out we somehow got 20 messages from Newt Gingrich while we were out on the weekend telling us why we should vote Republican on Tuesday.

      The worst part for my wife is that our voicemail system is new and apparently you cannot delete the message until it is completely over. My wife had to listen to the full minute or so message 20 times!

      Never had anything like that from a Democrat, but I am in Georgia where even the Democrats are Republicans (e.g. Zell Miller).

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    • Author by ferrarimanf355 (November 07, 2006 4:24 pm ET)
         

      ... but Laura Ingrahm is urging her listeners to jam the phone lines of a free voter protection hotline. Whoops! [link to thinkprogress.org]

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      • Author by worrierking (November 07, 2006 4:42 pm ET)
           

        These cretins will stop at nothing to have their will imposed on the citizens of this country. I don't think this is OT at all. As insulting as a lot of the robocalls are, at least they're trying to get people out to the polls. Ingrham's attempt to subvert the democratic process is immoral as hell. Thanks again for the info.

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        • Author by ferrarimanf355 (November 07, 2006 6:42 pm ET)
             

          I already noticed MMFA posted this up on the front page. Good going, guys! :-)

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      • Author by snoopy (November 07, 2006 4:48 pm ET)
           

        They also had an incident where a poll worker in Ky choked a voter and threw them out the building. Some people just can't handle disapproval very well, can they?

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    • Author by ferrarimanf355 (November 07, 2006 6:51 pm ET)
         

      MoveOn.org is putting up a $250,000 bounty for anyone who provides evidence in a successful felony conviction in a voter suppression/intimidation case, and People for the American Way is calling for a congressional investigation. [link to releases.usnewswire.com] [link to www.pfaw.org] PFAW also mentions that Barack Obama introduced a bill that would prevent this kind of stuff, so you guys might want to encourage Senator Obama to keep fighting this fight.

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    • Author by representativepress (November 07, 2006 9:24 pm ET)
         

      please pass the link to this video on to everyone: [link to www.youtube.com]

      Republican Dirty Tricks everyone needs to see this.

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