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Will media acknowledge they were too credulous in touting Rove's pre-election optimism?

November 09, 2006 8:10 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Contrary to Karl Rove's pre-election assertions -- which the media accorded significance despited his presumable responsibility to express optimism -- Democrats won control of both houses of Congress. This raises the question of whether the media were wrong in treating Rove's optimistic predictions as anything more than a job requirement.

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The November 7 midterm elections produced the opposite result from what White House senior adviser Karl Rove had predicted, with the Democrats winning control of both houses of Congress. According to a November 9 New York Times report, Rove's aides "knew a month ago how much trouble they were in, at least in the House." Given the media's coverage of his predictions as significant -- when optimism on his part was, The New York Times now confirms, merely a job requirement and not necessarily a function of any inside knowledge or instinct -- the actual outcome of the elections raises the very real question of whether the media will acknowledge that they were wrong in treating them as anything more than necessity.

Rove has previously made electoral predictions that proved unrealistic. During the 2000 presidential race, Rove predicted that then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush would win 320 electoral votes, according to the St. Petersburg Times; in fact, Bush received 271. Rove also told the Houston Chronicle that the possibility of an electoral split, with former Vice President Al Gore receiving a majority of the electoral votes but losing the popular vote -- in fact, the opposite happened -- was not a split that could happen, asserting that "a weird set of political dynamics" that were "not repeatable in modern America" had resulted in the last instance of such a split, in 1888.

Yet a number of media reports leading up to the election uncritically reported Rove's optimistic predictions without mentioning his flawed track record. For example:

  • When host Robert Siegel pointed out to Rove that major public opinion polls showed Democrats with a significant advantage over Republicans during an October 24 interview broadcast on NPR's All Things Considered, Rove told Siegel, "You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math, I'm entitled to the math." Rove also said, "I'm looking at all these [races], Robert, and adding them up, and I add up to a Republican Senate and Republican House."
  • On the October 31 broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America, senior national correspondent Claire Shipman reported on Rove's NPR interview and confidence in the days before the election, noting that "[p]olitical Svengali" Rove had presented "a compelling scenario as to just how Republicans might hang onto the House. He said, 'Every way I look at it, I see we have a structural advantage.' " Shipman also detailed Rove's "unconventional wisdom as to why Republicans might even hang onto the House when most polls show it going Democratic by at least a few seats."
  • In an October 25 Associated Press report, staff writer Deb Riechmann reported on the October 24 "Radio Day" press event at the White House, where administration officials granted interviews to a host of radio outlets. Riechmann noted that Rove "gushe[d] with optimism about Election Day," and uncritically reported his prediction that "Republicans would retain control of Congress, discounting polls that show the Democrats threatening to take over."

Media Matters for America previously noted the willingness on the part of the media to report Rove's professed optimism as indicative of more than simple necessity. Before the examples cited above, during the news summary segment of the October 18 edition of PBS' NewsHour, host Jim Lehrer reported without challenge or rebuttal that Rove "dismissed Democrats' chances of winning control of Congress," adding that Rove "told The Washington Times [that] Republicans may lose seats in both the Senate and House, but they will keep their majorities." Similarly, on the October 16 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, MSNBC correspondent David Shuster reported that Rove "remain[s] very calm and optimistic about the election" despite the recent congressional page scandal surrounding former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) and what The New York Times described as an "intensifying corruption inquiry" into Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA). Neither noted that Rove may have no choice but to convey optimism.

After the election, The New York Times reported on November 9 that in the weeks heading into the election, "keeping in character and hewing to longstanding political strategy, Mr. Rove presented an optimistic front, telling anyone who would listen that the party would hold control of the House and the Senate." This despite the fact that "[t]hree weeks before the election, various efforts to crunch polling data and find a path toward success kept coming to the same best case result: the Democrats would take 17 seats."

On the November 9 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, correspondent Brian Todd reported that prior to the elections, "many Republicans pinned their hopes on Rove, because of his track record," adding that given the outcome, some "on the conservative side have had it with the image of Karl Rove as political genius." Todd's report quoted Time columnist Andrew Sullivan, who asserted that "the base strategy now shows [Rove] not to be a genius but to be a real failure." Todd's report also excerpted Rove's NPR interview with Siegel in which Rove proclaimed access to "the math."

From the October 24 broadcast of NPR's All Things Considered:

SIEGEL: We're in the home stretch, though, and many would consider you on the optimistic end of realism about --

ROVE: Not that you would be exhibiting a bias or a -- I like that. You're just making a comment.

SIEGEL: I'm looking at all the same polls that you're looking at every day.

ROVE: No, you're not. No, you're not.

SIEGEL: No, I'm not. You're right.

ROVE: No, you're not. You're not. I'm looking at 68 polls a week. You may be looking at four or five public polls a week that talk about attitudes nationally but that do not impact the outcome of --

SIEGEL: I'm looking at main races between -- certainly Senate races.

ROVE: Well, like the poll today showing that Corker's ahead in Tennessee, or the race -- poll showing that Allen is pulling away in the Virginia Senate race.

SIEGEL: Leading Webb in Virginia, yeah.

ROVE: Yeah. Exactly.

SIEGEL: But you've seen the DeWine race and the Santorum race -- I don't want to have you call races.

ROVE: Yeah, I'm looking at all these, Robert, and adding them up, and I add up to a Republican Senate and a Republican House. You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math, I'm entitled to the math.

SIEGEL: Well, I don't know if we're entitled to our different math, but you're certainly --

ROVE: I said the math. I said you're entitled to yours, yeah.

From the October 31 broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America:

SHIPMAN: Good morning, Robin. Well, the White House has its star campaigners out in force -- the president, the vice president, their wives -- all warning about terrorism and the election of Democrats. But look for a shift in tone in this final week, a projection of confidence. This White House believes that the power of positive thinking is critical to success.

With whirlwind touchdowns in Georgia and Texas, President Bush unleashed his rhetorical heat for the final week.

BUSH: When the Democrats ask for your vote, what's your answer?

AUDIENCE: No!

SHIPMAN: Both stops in what had been stronghold Republican turf, a clear mark of deep Republican concern one week away from the vote. But as other Republicans around the country popped the Alka-Seltzer, what does this man know that the rest of us don't? Political Svengali Karl Rove is flashing a perpetual grin on the trail. Listen to his response when an NPR radio host suggests he might be overly optimistic.

ROVE (audio clip): I'm looking at all of these, Robert, and adding them up. And I add up to a Republican Senate and Republican House. You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math, I'm entitled to the math.

SHIPMAN: Rove's unconventional wisdom as to why Republicans might even hang onto the House when most polls show it going Democratic by at least a few seats? First, the bulk of the competitive House race's -- 34 out of 53 -- involve a Republican incumbent. Historically, incumbency gives an enormous edge. Second, the Republican get-out-the-vote effort. A huge asset in the past two elections, it still looks stronger than what the Democrats have in place. Finally, and perhaps what's most behind the smile, pure psychology. Sources say Rove believes whatever the reality, voters want to back a winner.

STU ROTHENBERG (political analyst): It's -- part of his job is to get Republicans enthusiastic, to make sure that they turn out. And if -- and if he says they're gonna lose, there'll be a lot of Republicans who'd stay home, and that would make the problem worse.

SHIPMAN: And let me tell you, when you talk to Rove, as we did yesterday from the campaign trail, he can lay out a compelling scenario as to just how Republicans might hang onto the House. He said, "Every way I look at it, I see we have a structural advantage." Remember, Karl Rove has a lot of wins under his belt. But he's headed into most of them with a decided edge. Not so this time, Robin.

From the October 18 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

CAFFERTY: Twenty days and counting until the mid-term elections. A lot of time left for a so-called October surprise. A lot of possibilities out there, too, on what might come along to affect the elections -- international threats like North Korea's nuclear tests, Iran's nuclear ambitions, the widely covered mess in Iraq, not to mention finding Osama bin Laden -- to the domestic issues like the Mark Foley sex scandal. Many people think Karl Rove would be the architect behind an October surprise, if it comes. It just so happens Rove told The Washington Times he's confident the Republicans will keep control of both the Senate and the House of Representatives. He says the "Foley matter," his words, will have impact in some limited districts but not overall. Perhaps Mr. Rove knows something we don't.

From the October 25 Associated Press report by Deb Riechmann:

President Bush's political top gun Karl Rove gushes with optimism about Election Day. National security adviser Stephen Hadley says the Iraqis need to do more to secure their nation and do it faster. Presidential confidant Dan Bartlett takes a few verbal punches at Democrats.

It was "Radio Day" at the White House, where more than 30 talk-show hosts were invited to set up shop in a heated white tent on the North Lawn to quiz senior administration officials. Beginning at 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, the broadcasters chatted live about everything from Iraq to homeland security to the Nov. 7 elections.

Rove predicted the Republicans would retain control of Congress, discounting polls that show the Democrats threatening to take over.

"You heard it here first," Rove declared in his interview with Fox News Radio.

From the November 6, 2000, edition of the St. Petersburg Times:

The upbeat, confident mood in the Bush campaign is reflected by today's travel schedule. Bush will visit Gore's home state of Tennessee and President Clinton's home state of Arkansas, with stops in Iowa and Wisconsin, states that traditionally vote Democratic, before arriving home in Austin late tonight.

Rove predicts Bush will win 320 electoral votes Tuesday, then cautioned that it is only a calculated guess.

"No one should underestimate the amount of work that needs to be done," he said.

From the November 6, 2000, edition of The Houston Chronicle:

Rove predicted Bush will win enough states to get about 50 more Electoral College votes than he needs to win. Rove also predicted Bush will get about 50 percent of the popular vote, with Gore at about 45 percent.

Rove discounted the much-discussed possibility that Gore could win the Electoral College while losing the national popular vote to Bush, a scenario that has not occurred since 1888.

"You had a weird set of political dynamics (in 1888) that are not repeatable in modern America," Rove said.

From the November 9 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

BLITZER: So what happened? Democrats have officially wrested control of both the House and the Senate from Republicans. Now some are wondering how a key Republican whose prior predictions were often so right, this time those predictions were so wrong. Let's go to CNN's Brian Todd, he's joining us for more on this part of the story. Brian?

TODD: Wolf, those predictions came from Karl Rove, the president's chief political strategist, and despite pre-election poll indicating heavy GOP losses, many Republicans pinned their hopes on Rove, because of his track record. Two weeks before mid-terms, Karl Rove exudes the confidence of a man who's won three national elections for his party. When an NPR reporter presses him on polls showing Republican fortunes slipping --

ROVE [audio clip]: I add up to a Republican Senate and a Republican House. You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math, I'm entitled to the math.

TODD: Now, in the wreckage of a Democratic rout, deputy White House press secretary Dana Parino tells CNN there's no tension between Rove and President Bush. She says this comment the day after was a full-hearted joke.

BUSH [video clip]: I obviously was working harder in the campaign than he was.

TODD: Parino says Rove, who declined our request for an interview, doesn't spend a lot of time quote on the couch, thinking about his personal role in these situations. But others on the conservative side have had it with the image of Karl Rove as political genius.

SULLIVAN: He didn't get a majority of the popular vote in 2000, he squeezed a 51 percent victory in 2004. He's been teetering on the brink ever since, and the base strategy now shows him not to be a genius but to be a real failure.

TODD: One GOP strategist says Rove's political team could have done more to warn voters about a Nancy Pelosi-led house. But some analysts believe Rove played too much to the base.

JIM VANDEHEI (Washington Post reporter): The problem was it became such a sort of a hard edge, let's help conservatives, let's fire up conservatives, that they almost tied their hands. It made it very difficult to get out of that strategy and then just try to reach to the center.

TODD: But a GOP activist who knows Rove says there were forces at work here that even the so-called architect couldn't control.

GROVER NORQUIST (Americans for Tax Reform president): Karl Rove is in charge of the get-out-the-vote effort, in charge of the political campaign. The decision to occupy Iraq was not Karl Rove's. And it's not exactly fair to blame him.

TODD: Another longtime Republican strategist told me, quote, "No one's going to tell you with a straight face that Karl could have saved this election," end quote. The next election, he says, will also depend on Iraq. And he says Rove and the Republicans cannot get themselves into a situation where they are all defending the war, and the Democrats are all opposing it. Wolf?

BLITZER: Brian Todd, thank you. Brian Todd.

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    • Author by mefirst (November 09, 2006 8:15 pm ET)
         

      he does one thing extremely well. he gives the identity of undercover cia operatives to people who are not supposed to have them.

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    • Author by tex (November 09, 2006 8:35 pm ET)
         

      Used to be "Turd Blossom". Now the "blossom" can be dispensed with.

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      • Author by factsrstubborn (November 09, 2006 11:07 pm ET)
           

        1 Turd + 1 Turd = 3 Turds

        (Unfortunately for Karl, Reality fell one Turd short!)

        So now we have the NEW Math:

        3 Turds, minus Rumsfeld, leaves 2 Turds (Bush + Cheney)

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (November 09, 2006 9:55 pm ET)
         

      Everyone ws just so damn intimidated by Rove and now it seems he does, in fact, have feet of clay... I agree with Tex's assessment.

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    • Author by therick (November 09, 2006 11:32 pm ET)
         

      But sooner or later it had to come back to haunt him. After all, daddy fired Rove, yet incompetence is one of W's highest requirements.

      There is a twisted logic in requiring everyone around you to be incompetent--it makes you look like a genius among fools. The problem is that you can only fool the ones who want to believe.

      Perhaps we aren't being fooled anymore. We can only hope.

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    • Author by tex (November 10, 2006 6:54 am ET)
         

      How much time and effort has the Bush Administration spent telling the media and the public that they have no use for polls? That they don't read them, don't give them any credibility, don't care about them at all?

      In fact, the Bush Administration has been derisive and condescending to anyone suggesting a poll might be of interest. They have gone to great lengths to assert that they, the Bush Administration, make absolutely NO decisions "based on polls."

      And yet, here is Rove bragging about how many POLLS he's not only watching, but doing "THE math" on, adding and subtracting and ciphering in order to determine what's going to happen. And to decide how to procede and where, as far as campaigning.

      What are we to conclude? Only one possible conclusion: Whenever a Bush Administration official (or Bush himself) starts dismissing POLLS in any way, we know they are LYING THEIR ASSES OFF ... again. It continues to be disturbing how easily and often this crew LIES. The recent election will not change that fact, except NOW, there WILL be an accounting ... thank GOD.

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      • Author by rusty shackleford (November 10, 2006 9:26 am ET)
           

        This administration may be the most poll-obsessed in history, yet their blind followers (an endangered species?) believe the lie that they don't pay attention to polls.

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    • Author by nerzog (November 10, 2006 9:41 am ET)
         

      about the same time Bush admits that invading Iraq was the stupidest military move since the Little Bighorn.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (November 10, 2006 10:40 am ET)
         

      Let me see...68 private pools vs. 5 public pools the answer is.

      BLACK ROVEMBER

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    • Author by valentinian (November 10, 2006 1:57 pm ET)
         

      This has been another edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

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    • Author by xii (November 10, 2006 3:29 pm ET)
         

      That's a fair question, but it might also be worth asking whether the blogosphere should admit that they were too paranoid about Rove's pre-election optimism.

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    • Author by steeve (November 10, 2006 3:30 pm ET)
         

      [link to www.washingtonmonthly.com]

      The margin this time was too big to steal, but the stealing remains. Democrats need about 54% just to break even.

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    • Author by magnolialover (November 10, 2006 3:33 pm ET)
         

      Everyone in Washington watches polls, especially the occupents of the White House. Always have I would imagine, and always will. I think when they talked about not looking at polls, most of the people who pay attention gave it no mind, because once again, they were lying their asses off. Please. A President and his minions not watching the polling numbers? That's just silly really. And not even remotely true. Now, maybe the "Decider" doesn't use polls to make his "decisions" and this one might be true, because look at how many decisions the big old goofball has made over the years he's been in office that have not only been counterintuitive, but have gone against the grain of what mainstream America has wanted, or expected. It's just in the last year or so that people finally realized that indeed, no matter how many times Bush mentions 9/11, he's just wrong on so many things.

      Which brings me to another question. Since that fateful day, has Bush ever had a speech where he didn't use 9/11? I think that this might be an interesting study to look at. Just on a rhetorical level.

      Rove's playbook is played out. Unfortunately, everyone is on to his tricks, mostly his dirty tricks. This is why, increasingly, his effectiveness is waning. It's always, dig up dirt, smear the messenger, talk of things that have no substance, but have things in it that scare people, and scare people into voting republican, because they are the only ones that can protect you. As I said, his strategery is getting weak, and people can see that. Finally, after many years of running the same game (from his college days onward), he needs to come up with a new bag of tricks if he is to remain relevant. And frankly, a new bi-partisan-ness in Congress could really put the kibosh on his plans and his tactics, because let's face it, if you can get the 2 warring parties to work well together again, then there is nothing to scare people with, and nobody to smear (although I'm sure he'll find something or someone), and maybe we can start getting back to talking about issues and things that have real substance.

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    • Author by charlie.nyt2000 (November 10, 2006 3:43 pm ET)
         

      this is a silly column - all campaigns predict they will win. will you hold every democrat loser to the same standard? stick to substantive issues... charlie

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      • Author by Brabantio (November 10, 2006 10:05 pm ET)
           

        Of course they predict that they'll win, but it's about how you do it, and how the media reacts. If Rove says "I'm very confident" or "the numbers look bad but there are other factors that might come into play..", fine. Nothing wrong with optimism. "I'm entitled to THE math" is crossing into flat-out dishonesty. If he said they would keep the Senate, but not sure about the House, I would at least think that he might have actually had a basis for his predictions.

        For anyone to describe such an obvious bluff as "compelling" is absurd, and worth noting. If a Democrat make similar comments and they're taken so seriously, then that's worth noting too.

        And if these are the kinds of answers we're going to get, then we should stop asking the question. It's beyond worthless.

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    • Author by mefirst (November 10, 2006 5:46 pm ET)
         

      but at his post election press conference, bush said something like this about rove: "i guess i worked harder on the campaign than he did". of course it's not possible that the american people finally figured out, as they should have 6 years ago when it would have made a really big difference, that bush is an incompetent messianic ignoramous? bush is often quoted as thinking he will go down in history as a lincoln or churchill. as if. i think history's judgement will be far harsher.

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    • Author by mccamy taylor (November 10, 2006 10:39 pm ET)
         

      Rove is the poster boy for E-Vote fraud and GOP disenfranchisement of Democratic voters. When the mainstream press reports widely that a cocky, self assured Karl Rove bragged that he knew "THE math" the American electorate took it as a great big slap in the face.

      "THE Math" was intended for in-house consumption. Rove wanted to inspire the base to disregard the polls and come out to vote. It worked. There was a respectable Republican turn out.

      However, the well publicized message to the Democrats "we must overwhelm voter disenfranchisement and E-vote error and fraud with a massive turn out" was even more successful. Karl Rove's "THE math" added greatly to that message. An angry electorate is even more likely to vote than a frightened electorate, and when Rove implied that he was in charge, it added to voters' rage.

      I suspect that some of the news media outlets which stand accused of not countering Rove's claims did so deliberately. Several networks and newspapers chose to take a stance in opposition to Fox, CNN and the Bush affiliated newspapers this election. I guess they did not like the thought of their reporters being snatched off the streets, imprisoned in Eastern Europe and water boarded by Dick Cheney.

      I notice that Karl Rove is throwing everyone under the bus to save himself from the wrath of the Republican base. It is Rummie's fault. It is Abramoff's fault. It is Foley's fault. It is Congress's fault (for doing what Rove and the White House told them to do).

      In fact, it is Rove's fault for ingnoring Emerson. "Knowledge is the antidote to fear." Katrina made it clear that the GOP had lost the lock down on the mainstream media which it had enjoyed since the 2000 presidential campaign. Knowing this, he still tried to frame the GOP midterm elections on the issue of TERROR. You can not scare people if you do not control the press. A real genius would have known this. A real genius would have used a different strategy---like Nancy Reagan's 1984 Pepsi Generation campaign. Nancy was smart. Rove knows a few tricks.

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    • Author by wesley (November 11, 2006 8:54 am ET)
         

      - Zogby called the election's victorious party "Forrest Gump Democrats." As in, Republicans were so lame and so disliked this year that even Forrest Gump could have beaten one. - Forbes

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      • Author by greekfurnace (November 11, 2006 2:08 pm ET)
           

        The Republicans blew it from day one. To say the Democrats are bad because they beat these chump Republicans is unfounded and lame.

        I guess you'll have to wait a long time now for your beloved Republicans to address your favorite issue. What did you have...uh, about 6 years? That's pretty bad.

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      • Author by solon (November 11, 2006 5:16 pm ET)
           

        Its not that your side was that good, its just that my side REALLY sucked.

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        • Author by wesley (November 11, 2006 5:35 pm ET)
             

          Self-deprecating humor...look it up in your spare time.

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          • Author by solon (November 11, 2006 7:11 pm ET)
               

            I loved it. Appreciation Look it up then hire a six year old to explain the big words to you.

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    • Author by greekfurnace (November 11, 2006 2:05 pm ET)
         

      In a word... no.

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