Tumulty said it's "absurd" to attack U.S. press for not challenging Bush, while Froomkin praised U.K. press' "different tack"
On December 8, Time magazine national political correspondent Karen Tumulty and washingtonpost.com columnist Dan Froomkin appeared to offer very different takes on questions from American and British reporters at the December 7 joint press conference with President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair. In response to an email read on the December 8 edition of the National Public Radio-distributed Diane Rehm Show, in which the e-mailer mentioned a "very tough" question asked by a British reporter and wrote that it is "infuriating" that "[r]eporters in this country are still not taking this president to task about Iraq or any of his other botched policies," Tumulty said "the idea that the American press has not raised these questions is absurd." Tumulty added: "I don't think that, you know, one particular question in a press conference, where reporters tend to be asking to impress each other as much as anything else, is a measure of the entire American press corps." By contrast, in his December 8 column, Froomkin wrote: "Long live the British press!" He added: "American reporters dutifully but fruitlessly tried to get Bush to explain what he meant. Their colleagues from across the pond took a different tack."
The press conference was held to discuss the Iraq Study Group (ISG) report, which was released December 6. The report characterized the situation in Iraq as "grave and deteriorating." During the press conference, Bush and Blair called on six different reporters -- three American and three British -- for questions about the ISG report. BBC News political editor Nick Robinson said Bush's response to the report "won't convince many people [who believe] that you're still in denial about how bad things are in Iraq, and question your sincerity about changing course."
Below is a list of the questions asked by American reporters and British reporters at the December 7 press conference:
Questions from the American press:
- Terence Hunt, the Associated Press: "Mr. President and Mr. Prime Minister, neither of you has shown much doubt about your Iraq policies. Do you acknowledge that your approach has failed, as Baker-Hamilton suggests? And are you willing to engage directly with Syria and Iran and pull out most combat forces by early 2008, unless there's unexpected circumstances?"
- Steve Holland, Reuters: "Thank you, sir. You mentioned Iran and Syria as part of this regional effort. Are you willing to engage with them directly as the report -- as the report recommends? And back to the issue of the troops, is it possible to get them out of Iraq by early 2008, as the report talks about? And when do you hope to have this report?"
- James Gerstenzang, Los Angeles Times: "Mr. President, you have said that you have the Baker-Hamilton report, you also have the -- you're waiting to hear from the Pentagon, you're waiting to hear from the State Department. This report was prepared by a bipartisan group, the only one you'll get. Secretary Baker has a special relationship with the family. Should this report not get extra consideration? Does it not carry more weight than any of the others?"
Questions from the British press:
- Nick Robinson, BBC News
political editor, to Bush: "Mr. President, the Iraq Study Group described
the situation in Iraq as 'grave and deteriorating.' You said that
the increase in attacks is unsettling. That won't convince many people [who believe] that you're still
in denial about how bad things are in Iraq, and question your sincerity about
changing course. ...
Why did it take others to say it before you've been willing to acknowledge it
for the world -- "
Robinson to Blair: "I just wanted to ask you about your Middle East mission, if I may. Given your trip to the Middle East, isn't the truth of what the Arab-Israeli solution -- sorry, isn't the truth of what the Arab-Israeli problem requires is not, however hard you try, another visit by a British prime minister, but the genuine commitment -- and not merely in words -- of an American administration that's serious about doing something about it?" - Unknown British reporter:
"I'll try to be succinct. Mr. President, two years ago, you said that you were ready to expend
political capital on the Israel-Palestinian situation. With hindsight, do you
think you've fulfilled that intention? How closely do you see a linkage between
what happens in Israel-Palestine and a settlement in Iraq, achieving your goals?
"And Prime Minister, given that you were so recently in the Middle East and the situation hasn't exactly improved since then, is there anything specific you're hoping to achieve next week when you go back?" - Bill Neely, ITV News, to
Bush: "Mr. President, the Iraq Study Group said that leaders must be
candid and forthright with people. So let me test that. Are you capable of
admitting your failures in the past, and perhaps much more importantly, are you
capable of changing course, perhaps in the next few weeks?"
Neely to Blair: "Prime Minister, you promised the British military whatever it takes to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the former head of the British Army says the British military is not being funded properly for the job it's being asked to do. Do you accept that?"
From the December 8 edition of WAMU's The Diane Rehm Show:
REHM: Welcome back to our Friday news roundup. And here is an email from Ellen, who says, "The first thing I said to myself when I heard a British reporter asking President Bush that very tough and obvious question about Iraq yesterday was, "Why doesn't a U.S. reporter ask it?' Reporters in this country are still not taking this president to task about Iraq or any of his other botched policies. I find it infuriating."
JOSEPH CURL (Washington Times White House correspondent): Well, one of the things that happens in press conferences is the -- usually what the president will do is take two questions from each side. So then you have almost always the AP and Reuters reporters asking the questions, and they are very strictly on policy. They are on minutia and moving things along. So both of them asked the same question yesterday -- the question about, you know, pulling out troops by 2008, talking with Iran and Syria. There were two questions on that. If she's referring to the --
REHM: No, she's referring --
CURL: -- she's referring to the question on denial. Whether President Bush is still in denial.
REHM: Exactly. Because he said -- I think Tony Blair was asked the question afterwards, but Bush's answer was very equivocal relating to the conclusion of the Baker report.
CURL: Well, but he was very stern, though. I mean, he, you know -- he made that flip little answer first, like, you know, "I know what's happening. Is that good enough?" But then to this reporter, he repeatedly jabbed his finger at him saying, "I know what's going on over there. I understand. I'm not in denial." So it's -- it was again -- you know -- U.S. reporters have asked this question many times, you know, "What do you blame yourself for? What are the biggest mistakes you've made?" This president doesn't do that. He's not a navel-gazer. He doesn't look in the mirror and think about these things or certainly admit them. So it's a question that really actually doesn't go anywhere. It has been asked and not answered.
TUMULTY: Well, and the idea that the American press has not raised these questions is absurd. I mean, there is right now a best-selling book written by one of the premier American reporters, Bob Woodward, called State of Denial. So I don't think that, you know, one particular question in a press conference, where reporters tend to be asking to impress each other as much as anything else, is a measure of the entire American press corps.














We had a War sold to us like the Fall Season of Television on steriods, and a corporate press serving corporate benefactors in the Republican Party to promote a call to the troft of tax dollars that has not been matched since Vietnam.
Then they "imbedded" their collective heads so far up the Neo-Con arse that they did'nt bother to take a breath until after the Bush was re-elected!!
Other than that the press was a real peach!
As far as how the English-speaking Press questioned the president, versus how the American-speaking Press did:
Them Brits can say stuff to the president like...
"many people [believe] that you're still in denial about how bad things are in Iraq, and question your sincerity"
"leaders must be candid and forthright with people. So let me test that. Are you capable of admitting your failures in the past, and perhaps much more importantly, are you capable of changing course, perhaps in the next few weeks?"
Ouch.
Them Brits don't care one bit where they sit in the White House Briefing Room... because they don't go there much. Nor do they care how they're treated entering the White House, or any other Federal Building, or while they're in those places, as the administration's "guests" so to speak...
Turn the tables if you like, give the White House Press Corps the opportunity to grill Blair... they'd make him blush with embarrassment and/or anger (and them Brits work hard to stave off such weaknesses)...
...and then that same American Press Corps would find themselves demoted to using the service entrance at No. 10 Downing, if even that (that is, if Mr. Blair's guys are as much the jerks that Mr. Bush's are).
The White House Press Corps likes the perks... and they're easily intimidated by the administration's jerks, who'd make their (working) lives miserable, if they didn't speak to the Boss as if he were their king.
The discussion is a good one though: Just how hard should the Press press the president (or anyone else) in their questioning and reporting.
Example: You ask the guy a question, but he doesn't answer it... you aggressively follow-up your question, by repeating it... another non-answer...
What now? Try again?
Or just figure that that's the guy's answer to the question: "I'm not answering your question."
And if you're a witness to the double non-answer, and it's your turn to ask the guy a question, do you make it your business to pursue the game... do you ask "In light of your refusal to answer my colleague's question sir, might I then ask..."
It's a tough line to draw, just how hard do you question anybody really, if it's obvious to all that that's their response: The non-answer.
(Of course prosecuters and lawyers have greater range in these matters, their prey being under Oath... and legal accusation.)
It's a good discussion though, worth having.
I like a different question as a better one: Are the "media" hacks at Fox News Channel actual "journalists" and "reporters", or not?
Doesn't that question involve the other... to seperate out not only the weak (journalists) from the strong, but to seperate out the real (journalists) from the frauds (those Public Relations guys at FNC).
Ask that question of Tumulty... what's he got to say about that...
Better yet, ask the Brits... they wouldn't care about the backlash to their words...
...unless they work for satan (rupert murdoch).
What now? Try again?
Or just figure that that's the guy's answer to the question: "I'm not answering your question." - Dem02020
I'll suggest three things actual reporters (as opposed to the court stenographers we pretty much have now) could do:
1. Point out the difference between the question and the answer: "Excuse me, but I'd appreciate it if you answered the question I asked. I didn't ask you about [quick reference to gist of non-answer], I asked you about [summary of original question]. Please direct your answer to that point."
2. Phrase the question as precisely and narrowly as possible - if possible, make it a direct yes or no question. "I'm sorry, but that was a yes or no question. It only required a one word answer, which I have not received. So I ask again [repeat question], yes or no? If you want to expand on that answer after you give it, please do so. But please answer the question first."
3. Most importantly, in covering the statements given, use words like "evaded," "dodged," "avoided," "refused to directly answer," "repeated talking points," and so on.
Yes, there can easily come a point where you have to admit to yourself that you are simply not going to get a straight answer (or anything that constitutes an answer at all, even a bent one). But that makes it all the more important to make it clear that such is what happened.
the British hacks are as hard on our PM all the time as they were on El Prez for that one half hour.
there are Lobby briefings in the UK where the administration gets its views over to hacks, and the hacks then filter the BS or report the views straight (with caveats).
The PM has a tough press conference monthly with the whole press corps that is televised. The PM has weekly grillingsin front of the whole legislature.
we still end up getting stiffed despite all that, but atleast things are asked, if the puclic is too apathetic to realise they are being hosed constantly thats upto them.
W
(ps, the "unknown british reporter" was head of Adam Bolton. Sky News political department -a Murdoch employee)
where it looked like "civilians", actually young people, maybe students even, get to question Blair live.
I tried to even imagine Bush allowing himself to be put in that position. It's not gonna happen, but man that would be beautiful.
Actually, kinda got my heart set on Feingold for Prez, but you could step in if Obama folds on VP . . .
Actually, Tumulty is at least partially right: it isn't ANY of the questions asked, but rather all the questions avoided, that measure the American press corps. I wanna see Bungle cry, though, so maybe I'm asking more than is justified.
Shorter US press questions:
"What is your reaction to the ISG report?"
Shorter UK press questions:
"Why should anyone trust you?"
US press corps: "Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies . . ." (Fleetwood Mac, of course)
Brit press corps: "Have you stopped lying to us, and when was that?"