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January 08, 2007 7:06 pm ET

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On the January 8 edition of ABC's Good Morning America, retired Gen. Jack Keane, former Army vice chief of staff and ABC News contributor, appeared to support plans to send "[a]n additional 20,000 troops" to Iraq, despite having asserted, less than two weeks ago, that "at least 30,000 combat troops lasting 18 months or so" was the "only" option to "[b]ring security to Baghdad." Good Morning America co-host Diane Sawyer failed to question this apparent discrepancy.

Also, Sawyer failed to follow up on Keane's defense of a prolonged troop increase and on his assertion, unchallenged, that "[w]e have the military capability, the prowess, to secure Baghdad." Sawyer did not ask, nor did Keane offer, how the military could fulfill such requests for additional troops. In fact, according to the January 8 edition of Newsweek, an unnamed "former senior Army official" alleged that Keane has been advised by the Army's vice chief of staff that "the actual figures on readiness" show that Keane's plan to increase troops for the length of time needed to secure Iraq was "not doable."

Despite suggesting on Good Morning America that a smaller increase in troops would be acceptable, in a December 27 Washington Post op-ed, Keane and American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Frederick Kagan wrote that bringing "security to Baghdad ... is possible only with a surge of at least 30,000 combat troops lasting 18 months or so. Any other option is likely to fail." While Sawyer asked Keane whether he believed an increase of 20,000 troops would be "enough" to make a difference in Iraq, Keane did not directly answer her question, replying instead that an increase in troops "really is a change of mission as part of an overall strategy change." Keane went on to detail his proposals of what to do strategically with the additional troops. At no point did Sawyer ask Keane about his previous assertion that "only ... a surge of at least 30,000 combat troops" would be successful, and why he has, in just two weeks, apparently backed off that claim.

Further, in addition to asserting that "[w]e have the military capability, the prowess, to secure Baghdad," Keane claimed it was "just rubbish" to suggest there was "a capital city in the world that the foremost military in the world, when it applies itself, cannot secure." Keane also attacked critics of proposed plans to increase troops, such as Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE), as holding opinions "based on ignorance," and concluded that it would "probably" take "18 months to two years" to secure Iraq.

Yet, according to the January 8 Newsweek, Pentagon officials dispute the feasibility of Keane's idea. For instance, the magazine reported that "U.S. Army officials fret they don't have the forces or equipment for the kind of long deployment (perhaps 18 months or more) that would be required" of the plan Keane endorses. Additionally, according to an unnamed former Army official, Keane has reportedly been advised by Gen. Richard Cody, the vice chief of staff of the Army, that the Army's "actual figures on readiness" show that the Army is not capable of increasing its troop presence in Iraq, as Keane has asserted:

According to a former senior Army official who would describe the internal discussions only if he was not identified, "Keane told the president: 'Don't you dare let Army and Marine Corps tell you they can't do it.' Soon afterward, Gen. Richard Cody, the vice chief of staff of the Army, called Keane in and gave him the actual figures on readiness, telling him: 'Look, here's the status of these brigades today. It's not doable'."

According to Newsweek, "Keane did not respond to several calls asking for comment," and in her interview with Keane, Sawyer did not use the opportunity to ask for Keane's response to Newsweek's report.

From the January 8 edition of ABC News' Good Morning America:

SAWYER: All right, Jake [Tapper, ABC senior national correspondent], thanks. And now we're going to turn to one of America's most respected generals and a strong advocate of the surge, retired General Jack Keane. He has met with the president, advised the White House on the plan, and he's also an ABC News consultant. He joins us from our Washington bureau. And good morning, General Keane. OK, an additional 20,000 troops; 18,000 going right into Baghdad, which would double the number of U.S. forces there. My question to you is: Where you would put them? What would you have them do? And in a dangerous city of six and a half million people, are they enough?

KEANE: Well, first of all, it really is a change of mission as a part of an overall strategy change. And the troops, yes, would go into Baghdad. There are 23 Shia-Sunni mixed neighborhoods in Baghdad, east of the Tigris and west of the Tigris. That is a logical place to start because that's where most of the violence has been; that's where our presence has been contested the most. You do not have to deal with the entire 6 million population at one time, and that's true of most military operations. So, we would go into those districts, and that's were we could begin the campaign.

SAWYER: You'd go into the hot spots and you go, what, door-to-door? Doing what?

KEANE: The problem we've had in the past, Diane, is that we have cleared the enemy out of neighborhoods, out of cities like Fallujah, Samarra, Ramadi, twice in Baghdad, in the neighborhoods, in some of these very places I'm discussing, and we've never had enough troops to hold those neighborhoods. In other words, we cleared them out, we've had to go door-to-door, we'll do that again, but this time the operation and the mission will be to secure the population. So, once we clear the Shia death squads out, the Al Qaeda, the Sunni insurgents, as we've done before, we will put a force in 24/7 that stays in the neighborhoods -- it does not go back to its bases -- and it protects the people. Then, in a number of weeks, once that protection has taken hold, the terrorists and the death squads and the Al Qaeda will try to come back. We will not permit that to happen. That has always happened in the past. That's where the operation failed. And then, we'll deliver economic packages to them to increase their basic services. That's the essence of the operation. We begin there, in the Shia-Sunni neighborhoods, to demonstrate our evenhandedness.

SAWYER: But let me --

KEANE: That then -- go ahead.

SAWYER: I'm so sorry -- but I want to ask you about what Senator Joe Biden said about this door-to-door operation, because he said all the king's horses and all the king's men can't secure this neighborhood if the Iraqis don't want it secure. And, in fact, we have American troops who don't speak Arabic going there. And I want to play a bite of what he said because he said this could just be a greater disaster, more targets for the Iraqi insurgents.

BIDEN [video clip]: Think of this: We're going to surge 20, 30 -- whatever the president says -- thousand troops into Baghdad again, a city of six million people. Six million people, where civil war is raging. We're going to have our troops go door-to-door in 23 neighborhoods. This is a prescription for another tragedy.

SAYWER: More troops in harm's way. How bloody could it be?

KEANE: Well, I really believe that statement is based on ignorance. Lookit -- this is the United States military, assisted by the Iraqis. We have the military capability, the prowess, to secure Baghdad. You're telling me that there's a capital city in the world that the foremost military in the world, when it applies itself, cannot secure the population in a given city? That's just rubbish. Of course we can do this. We do not have to do the six million. The Sunni enclaves to the west, not a lot of violence there. I would think initially, we do not have to go into Sadr City. Once we secure hundreds of thousands of Shias, I believe for the first time [Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-] Maliki then has an instrument to use with the Shia militia leaders, and that is the people are secured and he can have some positive effect on pulling back those Shia death squads.

SAWYER: Quick question about how long you anticipate the troops would stay, the surged troops would stay. News this morning, General Raymond Odierno, who's the second in command now in country, has said it would be two to three years -- two to three years -- before he thinks Iraqis can take over.

KEANE: Well, listen. The reason why this operation is being conducted is because the current strategy has failed, which is turn it over to the Iraqis. The fact of the matter is the enemy has raised the level of violence so high that the Iraqis cannot cope with it. We have to bring this violence down so they can. The operation in Baghdad will take probably most of '07. Then we turn our attention to the al-Anbar Province and secure the population in that area, then other places in -- other places outside of Baghdad where our operations are being contested. Yes, it'll probably take 18 months to two years. It's difficult to put a timetable on it, certainly, because the enemy votes. But that's a reasonable timeframe.

SAWYER: All right. Well, again, General Keane, thanks so much for being with us. It is a --

KEANE: You're quite welcome.

SAWYER: -- big week for history and Iraq.

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    • Author by fantagor (January 08, 2007 7:39 pm ET)
         

      She didn't know to ask, and he forgot he said it.

      Hey, he's retired. He can't remember everything. So perhaps he shouldn't be on TV as an "expert", and Sawyer should do the research or she shouldn't be on TV either.

      A sloppily executed war with sloppily executed journalism. A match made in hell.

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    • Author by redking75687 (January 08, 2007 11:30 pm ET)
         

      Hmm, let's analyse this propaganda. I do think this is the Bush plan being shopped to the press. They are going to "surge" and have their next bloodbath, that's a given.

      18,000 for the new assault on Baghdad. There are no mixed neighbourhoods anymore, though. The militias have been cleaning out their turfs and consolidating territory.

      30,000 for 18 months....they're saying another year and a half of war in that statement. That's five years in Iraq making war in total...WWII took us only three years.

      That's 30,000 pulled from other units to make up ad hoc formations, they've already started the process. Some of these units and their men will be going back on their fourth and fifth tours.

      It's gonna be a rotten New Year for this land.

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      • Author by autopsychic (January 09, 2007 8:19 am ET)
           

        "...WWII took us only three years. "

        Yes, but we didn't have to worry about whether we destoyed a church or temple while bombing the Germans. We also didn't allow the enemy to escape just because they hid in a graveyard. We also couldn't concern ourselves with 'colateral damage' as we bombed neighborhoods. We also didn't have to worry about the press giving aid and comfort to the enemy. We also had support of the troops in the mainland. We also had troops that weren't publically brought up on charges every time the enemy cried "foul". We also had an enemy that didn't hide behind women/children while dressing the same as women/children. We also didn't have a bunch of pansies publically whining about every move the president makes. And lastly....we also used the atomic bomb to end the war!

        Should we be allowed to do those things again?

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        • Author by bvac (January 09, 2007 10:38 am ET)
             

          Also, WWII was a legal, constitutionally declared war. Also, we were attacked first by another nation. Also, we were asked to sacrifice, instead of go shopping and enjoy tax cuts. Also, we had hundreds of thousands of young volunteers who put their families and jobs aside to protect the country - without large signing bonuses. Also, we had a surging manufacturing base that was prepared for war, and a business class that was generally loyal to this country (except for the ones who traded with Nazi Germany, like Prescott Bush). And finally, we also fought along side a broad coalition of Allied nations, many who were under direct attack of Germany, Italy, and Japan.

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        • Author by worrierking (January 09, 2007 11:58 am ET)
             

          Would like to know how much you've sacrificed for your country?

          It's easy to come here and mouth off. But most of the "tough guys" who come here and spout right wing nonsense have never done anything but mouth off. you can say the same for Bush, Cheney and most of their promoters in the media. None have stepped up and gone to war, but all have criticized men who did go.

          World War II was considered a just war. Most men of age went voluntarily to enlist in the military. The nation was in full support of the war. This has never been true of the War in Iraq. It never will be. If anyone in the military violates the UCMJ and rules of engagement they should be prosecuted. You should do some research. Military personnel have been tried for violations since the nation was founded more than two hundred years ago.

          And who exactly would you have us drop an atomic bomb on?

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          • Author by autopsychic (January 10, 2007 1:06 am ET)
               

            " World War II was considered a just war. "

            By who? YOU? When did Germany attack the US? When did Italy attack the US? Japan attacked the US. If you're going to use the 'ally' theory, then Iraq is a just war, also. Al queda left Afghanistan and went into Iraq to fight our troops who were busy removing Saddam in a UN authorized mission. That makes fighting al queda in Iraq justified. You don't like it? Too bad! We don't need your kind of fighter in this war any way. We need real men who join to fight, not men who get drafted and whine about fighting in an unjust war all the time. You spout off about everyone else fighting this war for you, why don't you join back up and get into the fighting? You keep asking everyone else to, why not you? I've done my stint in the Army. I joined! Now, I'm too old, unless they raise the age limit again. If they do I will attempt to get back in. Not everyone gets the pleasure of being in battle as you often brag about. My brother and Uncle both fought in that war. They joined. Maybe one of them flew you out of your zone. Don't give me crap about being pro war. I'm pro freedom and freedom doesn't include letting a bunch of crazed terrorists live on this planet without some kind of restraints. Maybe you want them to live free and kill randomly, but I don't.

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            • Author by solon (January 10, 2007 3:10 am ET)
                 

              When did Iraq do that again? Never? Thats right also Germany was invading our allies like it was a white sale, Iraq hadnt so much as sneezed in anyones direction since the first Gulf War. How dumb an argument is it to say we are justified to fight al Queda in Iraq because they FOLLOWED US THERE. they WERENT there when we invaded, So how does the logic go. If we invaded CANADA and al Queda fought us THERE would that somehow justify it? How dumb is that? There is no possible justification for this war. After WW2 We hung many of the Germans for what OUR Nuremberg Tribunal called the supreme war crime, starting a war of aggression if the Nuremeberg laws were applied Bush would be HUNG.

              Your final comment was just as dumb. Hey lets go after the terrorists, especially the ones that have attacked us, wait we did that until Bush decided to fight a more profit friendly war in IRAQ. Our own CIA said they had no evidence of any Iraqi involvement in international terrorism for 10 years. The terrorists FOLLOWED US INTO IRAQ, we didnt go into Iraq to fight terrorists we LEFT the fight against terrorists to invade Iraq. For some people any excuse to kill and slaughter ANYONE that doesnt look like us is good enough. Pathetic

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              • Author by autopsychic (January 10, 2007 8:58 am ET)
                   

                " If we invaded CANADA and al Queda fought us THERE would that somehow justify it? "

                If you had read my post, I said while we were already in Iraq. We were beating the crap out of them in Afghanistan, so they moved to another location. Just like terrorists are getting the crap beat out of them in Mogadishu. Al queda is building up reserves for the bad guys there, it won't be long before we attack in that area also. Al queda brought the fight to us, THEY declared war on the US years ago (just like Germany declared war on the US). Just because YOU chose not to believe them isn't my problem. The fact is it happened. [link to www.mideastweb.org] and [link to www.pbs.org] . In fact it happened on Clinton's watch and he ignored al queda. Left all the dirty work for Bush to take care of. And for you to complain about.

                " if the Nuremeberg laws were applied Bush would be HUNG. "

                It sounds like you are of those who want the terrorists to win and gain freedom to kill and destroy at will. You do a good job of supporting that ideal. Where do you get your information...randi rodes? Wait, you one of those who believe michael moore, aren't you? That explains your tirade. Oh, well so much for you having any credibility.

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            • Author by bvac (January 10, 2007 8:32 am ET)
                 

              Iraq didn't attack, or declare war, on us. Saddam was our dictator puppet. The only weapons of mass destruction he had were sold to him by the U.S. His dilapidated military was destroyed in a matter of weeks... the 4th reich, they were not. Jesus Christ!

              You know whats so funny about you and your kind? You fear terrorists, and are intimidated by terror soooooooooo much that you think if 200,000 U.S. troops aren't running around Iraq kicking down doors, Terrorists are going to engulf the entire planet... or at least the United States. Hey, we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them in our streets, right? How exactly do you think that would come to be, Proud Christian? Are hundreds of thousands of sleeper cells going to awaken and flood the streets of Butte, Montana, Gary, Indiana, Enfield, NY, Ash Springs, Nevada... and more? Is the world order so fragile and weak, than the violent actions of %0.0001 of the population are going to destroy civilization? Does nameless, faceless, stateless terrorism justify trillions of dollars of debt, and the neglect of education and economy?

              If I ever see a "terrorist" in my backyard, I know what I'll do. I've always found the idea that stateless terrorism can destroy a constitutional democratic republic. Its people like you that secure that belief, while adding a twist of humor to it. I love how you tried to rhetorically ask if WW2 was a just war. Gee, a Nazi regime actively pursuing worldwide empire through military force, Fascist Italy moving into Africa, and the Empire of Japan expanding and flying across the the friggin Pacific ocean just to land an attack on us.. hmm, yeah, I think that just may have been a war worth fighting. And you compare that threat with a ragtag group of a couple thousand "terrorists?" Then you try to justify a war brought on a nation where these "terrorists" weren't even stationed?

              LOL @ you

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              • Author by autopsychic (January 10, 2007 9:08 am ET)
                   

                " The only weapons of mass destruction he had were sold to him by the U.S. "

                That's good. Now, why do you keep saying he did not have any? How do you admit he had them in one breath and in the next claim illegal war by saying he did not have any in the next breath?

                " Gee, a Nazi regime actively pursuing worldwide empire through military force... "

                Yeah, what more do you NOT know about al queda and bin laden's plan for the world? Duhhhh, he wants all of it under muslim rule. AND he is using military force and moving into Africa and southeast Asia and into Europe and into the US and into many other country's to expand his ideal of world domination. But, YOU decide NOT to fear this enemy because why? Because he isn't in you back yard! How many nazi's were in your back yard? Did you fear them?

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                • Author by bvac (January 10, 2007 2:00 pm ET)
                     

                  Uhh, Saddam "had" weapons of mass destruction in 1988. They were expended during that time or destroyed in the gulf war. Okay? Do you understand that? Are you with me here? Do I have to remind you that the reason we invaded Iraq in 2003 was because Bush told us that Saddam had mobile biological weapons labs, unmanned aerial assault vehicles capable of delivering anthrax, VX nerve gas, and nuclear weapons to Europe in 40 minutes? Do I really have to remind you that Cheney said "There is no doubt that Saddam posseses weapons of mass destruction"? Must I add that this was said after they pulled weapons inspectors out before their job was done, and despite intelligence stating otherwise?

                  "Yeah, what more do you NOT know about al queda and bin laden's plan for the world? Duhhhh, he wants all of it under muslim rule."

                  LOL @ Osama bin Laden. Hey Proud Christian, you left out one small detail: OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS NOT IN, AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, IRAQ OR SADDAM HUSSEIN! Really, thank you for making my point for me. Osama bin Laden is living a free life, wandering from mountaintop to mountaintop, while Saddam Hussein hangs. Even though Al Qaeda was formed to get U.S. troops out of Saudi Arabia (which Bush gladly obliged to when he removed them in April, 2003), I have to ask you this... Do you really, truly, think that one man, Osama bin Laden, and a band of terrorists that make up %0.000001 of the world population, can destroy America, let alone take over the entire world? Please tell me yes. Pleeeease.

                  By the way, I wasn't alive during World War 2, but the existence of Nazi and Nazi sympathizers during the time is well known and well documented.

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                  • Author by autopsychic (January 11, 2007 1:50 am ET)
                       

                    " Do I really have to remind you that Cheney said "There is no doubt that Saddam posseses weapons of mass destruction"? "

                    Didn't Clinton say almost those exact words while he was President? And, didn't virtually every other democrat mirror the exact sentiments at the same time you complain about 'only' the republicans saying it? You act as if Bush and Cheney "made up" all the intelligence that was gathered by most (if not all) agencies throughout the world. ALL verifiable for you if you choose to look. Nuff said there....

                    " Do you really, truly, think that one man, Osama bin Laden, and a band of terrorists that make up %0.000001 of the world population, can destroy America, "

                    Where do you make up that number? They say that Islamic extremists (terrorists) make up 1% of all Muslims. There are over 1 BILLION Muslims worldwide. What's 1% of 1,000,000,000? You try to make it sound as if we're fighting 50 terrorists. Heck, they're active in over 50 countries throughout the world ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ).

                    Osama bin laden living a free life from mountain top to mountain top? That's funny!

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        • Author by zerosumgame0005 (January 09, 2007 1:50 pm ET)
             

          just loves hatred, torture, rape and murder if those being hurt are not 'white'. Yeah, you got the 'real' message of Jebus all right.

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        • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (January 10, 2007 12:17 am ET)
             

          do a good job of arguing against yourself, in a league with some of the most entertaining conservative posters here.

          Aside from the fictional dittohead talking points( press giving aid and comfort...), your post was actually pretty good at pointing out why Iraq is nothing like WWII.

          Not because we're not fighting it like WWII, but because we can't possibly do so.

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          • Author by autopsychic (January 10, 2007 1:13 am ET)
               

            " your post was actually pretty good at pointing out why Iraq is nothing like WWII. "

            Thanks. Why can't we fight it like WWII? We want to win, don't we? We don't want to leave terrorists feeling free to do whatever they want whenever they want, do we? We still have nazi's but they certainly aren't the feared group they were back then. We can let terrorists live as long as they agree not to terrorize. Don't you agree?

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            • Author by solon (January 10, 2007 3:15 am ET)
                 

              The Nazis wore uniforms and terrorists dont glow in the dark. So unless we are willing, as you seem to be, to either kill them all and let God sort them out, or just kill them at random and HOPE some of them are terrorists in either case becoming terrorists ourselves, then we need a new plan. AND if extremist, fundamentalist Islamic terrorists are the problem then invading the most SECULAR Islamic nation in the region was sheer insanity. We nee to do the things that will allow us to seperate the terrorists from the regular Muslim population, that will take intelligence, hard work and COOPERATION that last thing? You RARELY get it from someone whose brother, son, daughter, or wife you have just killed in the hopes of getting a terrorist. Do you get it yet ?YOU are part of the problem not part of the solution

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              • Author by autopsychic (January 11, 2007 3:05 am ET)
                   

                " The Nazis wore uniforms and terrorists dont glow in the dark. So unless we are willing, as you seem to be, to either kill them all and let God sort them out, or just kill them at random and HOPE some of them are terrorists "

                " Do you get it yet ?YOU are part of the problem not part of the solution "

                Isn't that exactly what we did in Germany? Worrierking, earlier, said that our part during WWII was "considered a just war". Yet, you are not calling him "part of the problem". So, you're saying we could indescriminately bomb Germans and Italians and Japanese and you would consider that a "just war" but if we do the same to terrorists it's "part of the problem"? You won't get "cooperation" from wives, sons, brothers or daughters that are being threatened by the terrorists because they know nobody will stop them, either!

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        • Author by solon (January 10, 2007 3:00 am ET)
             

          We just arent killing enough innocent people in Iraq and are treating those criminals who raped and murdered people too harshly. Yeah, what we really need to do is entirely exhdw any values of standards of decency and become completely immoral savages. Yeah, perhaps we could win that way but would it be worth the cost? What good to earn the whole world and lose our souls?

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