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Fox News provided platform for Matalin, Boehner to claim that Americans don't support Iraq withdrawal

January 11, 2007 3:09 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Fox News, Republican strategist Mary Matalin asserted that "the message of [the 2006] election ... wasn't to withdraw" from Iraq, and Rep. John Boehner claimed that "bring[ing] the troops home" is not "what the American people want." In fact, the national exit poll conducted for the leading news organizations in 2006 found that a majority of "the American public" was in favor of withdrawing troops from Iraq, and recent polls demonstrate that most Americans favor some type of troop withdrawal from Iraq -- facts that Fox News hosts failed to mention in their discussions with Matalin and Boehner.

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On the January 10 edition of Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson, Republican strategist Mary Matalin asserted that "the message of [the 2006] election ... wasn't to withdraw" from Iraq. In fact, the national exit poll conducted for the leading news organizations in 2006 found that a majority of "the American public" was in favor of withdrawing troops from Iraq. Similarly, on the January 10 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, guest host David Asman failed to correct House Minority Leader John Boehner's (R-OH) claim that "bring[ing] the troops home" is not "what the American people want." Asman failed to mention, as Media Matters for America has noted, recent polls demonstrating that most Americans favor some type of troop withdrawal from Iraq.

The United States General Exit Poll included the following question regarding voters' views of next steps in Iraq -- "What should the U.S. do in Iraq now?" In response, 29 percent said the United States should "[w]ithdraw all troops," 26 percent of respondents said "[w]ithdraw some troops," 21 percent said the United States should "[m]aintain the same number of troops," and 16 percent wanted to "[s]end more troops." Overall, 55 percent of respondents said the United States should withdraw "all" or "some" of the troops, while 38 percent were in favor of "[m]aintaining" the troop level or adding "more troops." The national exit poll also asked: "In your vote for U.S. House, how important was the war in Iraq?" Sixty-eight percent said it was "extremely" or "very" important; 21 percent said it was "somewhat important"; while only 10 percent said the war in Iraq was "not important at all." The two other published questions about Iraq in the national exit poll were: How do you feel about the U.S. war in Iraq?" and "Do you think the war in Iraq has improved the long-term security of the United States?"

Further, recent polling contradicts Boehner's claim -- which went unchallenged -- that Americans do not want to bring the troops home:

  • A January 5-7 USA Today/Gallup poll found that 54 percent of respondents said the United States should withdraw all troops from Iraq within a year, with 15 percent saying "immediately" and 39 percent saying "in 12 months time." Forty-three percent said either "take as many years as needed" or "send more troops." The margin of error was +/- 3 percent.
  • A CBS News poll released on January 8 reported that 59 percent of respondents support a decrease in troops in Iraq or removing all troops from Iraq, while only 18 percent support an increase in troops (conducted January 1-3, with a margin of error of +/- 3 percent).
  • A CNN poll (conducted December 15-17, with a margin of error of +/- 3 percent) reported that 53 percent of respondents support a withdrawal either immediately or within a year, while only 11 percent support sending more troops to Iraq.

From the January 10 edition of Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson:

JOHN GIBSON (host): Mary, the Democrats -- I'm going to put this on the screen -- the Democrats plan to conduct a series of votes on the Bush plan. They say they're symbolic. We know they'll disapprove. But here's the kicker. Do they dare stop the Bush surge, or are they just going to make a lot of noise and let it go?

MATALIN: Well, you know, interestingly, [Sen.] Barack Obama [D-IL], who is one of their new superstars, wrote a piece recently and said that the election message was to both parties: no more symbols, no more fooling around, get to work, and act like adults. That was a message sent to both parties. Symbolic votes don't cut it.

If they have a policy that's different from the president's, which they seem to suggest, which is to withdraw, that's a -- what some would say is a "choose to lose" strategy. The president continues to believe, rightly, that there is a way forward that we can win, and we need to win. We can't afford to lose.

And if they do believe that this is impossible to win, as Richard Holbrooke [former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations] and they have said, then they ought to flat-out say it, and then they ought to discuss the consequences of whatever policies would follow would from that.

That's what the people -- that's what the message of this election was. It wasn't to withdraw. It was to show progress. The president understands that the public is wary and skeptical. They want to see progress, but they did not say they want to withdraw. They did say they want to win.

From the January 10 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:

ASMAN: So, is Senator Harry Reid [D-NV] just whistling "Dixie"? I mean, does he -- does he really know of Republicans who are willing to oppose the president and the troop surge?

BOEHNER: Well, I think the American people want us to achieve victory in Iraq. And I think the president ought to have a chance to outline that plan tonight.

But the Democrats are making a lot of noise, but there is no plan. And they have no plan that they have put forward that'll do anything other than to give up and bring the troops home. And I don't think that's what the American people want.

ASMAN: Congressman, I --

BOEHNER: They want us to succeed.

ASMAN: I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but I still didn't quite hear an answer from you. Do you know of any Republican who is against a troop surge in Iraq?

BOEHNER: Well, I have heard Republicans here on Capitol Hill, people like Gordon Smith, the senator from Oregon. You got Walter Jones, a House member from North Carolina. There are some Republicans who are opposed to this.

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (January 11, 2007 3:17 pm ET)
         

      The neo-cons and their enablers have no choice but to say this absurd crap. They are way, way too heavily invested in this "adventure" to come to terms with what most people call "reality".

      Everything and I mean everything these neo-cons said was going to happen with the invasion of Iraq has been wrong. They have no choice but to stick with a sinking ship.

      Now if you know how many hardcore conservatives think then you will realize that they will blame this on someone else and will not take any responsibility in the end.

      They never do because they are always right.

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      • Author by therick (January 11, 2007 4:42 pm ET)
           

        they are waiting for the Democrats to pull the trigger so they can say; "We told you they didn't want to win in Iraq. We told you the Dems would make a disaster of this. They wouldn't allow a final surge, and look what happened." This, indeed puts Democrats in a no win situation, because these fools have already figured out how to shift the blame--the only thing they do well.

        Truth is, there's no solution for the mess W made over there. I'm certain when he was a boy, the maids would clean up after him. Now it's up to the Democrats.

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      • Author by Sams Computer (January 12, 2007 11:28 am ET)
           

        NO "FAIRNESS OR BALANCE" HERE...

        PEACE IS:

        What The American People Want.

        In future elections we must have "What We Want Options"

        Otherwise Fox News will continue lying about "What We Want." With electronic touch screens it would be simple to have a variety of optional "What We Want" choices.

        Imagine there's no countries,

        Nothing to kill or die for,

        It's not hard to do.

        You may say I'm a dreamer,

        But I'm not the only one.

        Imagine all the people,

        Living life in Peace!

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    • Author by Marker (January 11, 2007 3:18 pm ET)
         

      Democrats want a phased withdrawl, nobody I heard says lets pick up and get out tomorrow. If this would have been planned 2 years ago the situation would be different...oh never mind, planning doesn't enter into Bushworld.

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    • Author by publius (January 11, 2007 3:21 pm ET)
         

      a plurality supports withdrawal. I disagree with Matalin -- I think the message on election day was that Americans are just 'sick and tired' of Iraq, and want to wash their hands of it. Most Americans could care less whether Iraqi's have freedom or democracy (something Bush apparently doesn't get or care about).

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      • Author by publius (January 11, 2007 3:51 pm ET)
           

        70 percent of Americans oppose the "surge". See: [link to news.yahoo.com]

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      • Author by evillib1727 (January 11, 2007 4:15 pm ET)
           

        I disagree. I would say, most people care, but know this is going nowhere.

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        • Author by heru (January 11, 2007 5:13 pm ET)
             

          Most Americans hardly know where Iraq is, let alone the difference between a Sunni, a Shiite, a Kurd, an Arab, a terrorist, an insurgent, an army, a militia, a "good" guy, a "bad" guy.....

          Bushbots don't "care" because they have contemplated the nature of these distinctions, they "care" because they think and do as they are told by the commander in thief.

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        • Author by publius (January 12, 2007 9:30 am ET)
             

          a majority of Americans care about Iraq? Very unlikely. Why? It doesn't affect their daily lives.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (January 11, 2007 3:24 pm ET)
         

      for Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter and other flag waving venomous morons that grace our cable news networks.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (January 11, 2007 3:33 pm ET)
           

        along with Rushbo, who have characterized any plan besides digging deeper into the mess as "quitting", "surrender", "not believing in our troops", "not having the will to win", etc.

        They still have their disciples,but that crowd is starting to look like the people at the carnival who are still plopping down money at the rigged games at closing time.

        You know, that guy at the carny game who's getting "so close" every time, and probably needs to spend just another 5 or 10 bucks to get that teddy bear.

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        • Author by fantagor (January 11, 2007 3:39 pm ET)
             

          Iraq is the ultimate rigger carnival game. Perhaps this is a characteristic of the Middle East as a whole. Think of how many world powers have tried to conquer the Middle East and failed. It makes that "hoop-and-bottle" game seem, by comparison, fair.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2007 3:52 pm ET)
         

      Matalin and Boehner are two of the biggest Republican political whores around. Matalin used to work for Cheney and Boehner... well, there isn't much he wouldn't spin in a political way regardless how absurd it is.

      What person in his right mind cannot see that whatever arguable (and I emphasize "arguable"), potential threat Saddam may have possibly posed, it was not worth the cost in human life, treausre and world esteem... and what is happening today in Iraq was painfully predictable.

      What you are seeing with the likes of these appearances by Matalin and Boehner is an attempt to cover the collective behinds of the Republican Party. They have screwed up in such an enormous fashion they will say and do anything to shift blame and distract the American public from the embarrasing truth that the Republicans are dangerously incompetent and cannot be trusted with the national security of this country.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (January 11, 2007 4:10 pm ET)
           

        Matalin working for Cheney as an advisor. Since when did Cheney need a " mommy " ????? this wording may be taken as a subtle sign of Cheney admiration but it not. Cheney outed a CIA operative and that puts him in a special gutter .

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    • Author by Sagra (January 11, 2007 4:00 pm ET)
         

      D.C. Neocons telling Americans what they want. We know what we want, and we know they want the exact opposite.

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    • Author by draftedin68 (January 11, 2007 4:24 pm ET)
         

      Like the idiot they're struggling to defend, these two have (intentionally) stuck their heads in a dark, sound-deadening place.

      It's an affliction I call Cranial Rectumitis.

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    • Author by spintronic (January 11, 2007 4:29 pm ET)
         

      I'm with you on discussing the talking points, just wanted to remind you all of one thing:

      This is FOX News, do you really expect them to give you the entire picture seeing as they serve to pimp the Neo-con agenda?

      (I will refrain from saying that they are shills for Republicans as a whole because real Republicans aren't whacked-out like the neo-cons)

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      • Author by greekfurnace (January 11, 2007 4:36 pm ET)
           

        As expected, FOX is reporting fake news to bolster Bush and his stance. No surprises.

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        • Author by Lynn (January 11, 2007 6:12 pm ET)
             

          and unfortunately they (Fox and other neocon noise maker outlets) still have influence on some of my fellow Americans. I'm pretty certain the 20-25% who still think Bush is on track in Iraq are avid Fox viewers, Rush Limbaugh listeners, followers of fill in any right wing whacko commentator's name....

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          • Author by greekfurnace (January 11, 2007 10:54 pm ET)
               

            I agree with you... It must still be documented by the likes of MMFA, etc. At this point, however... not sure what more can be said, except "here we go again" :)

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      • Author by heru (January 11, 2007 5:23 pm ET)
           

        (I will refrain from saying that they are shills for Republicans as a whole because real Republicans aren't whacked-out like the neo-cons) - spintronic

        -------------------------------------------------------

        Real Republicans don't deserve a pass, they're the ones who stole 2 elections, put this corrupt administration in office, and kept them there for lo this many nightmarish years.

        Rela Republicans put a person at the helm of our nation whom they knew was even more incompetent than Peter Sellers in "Being There". You only do something like that if you're incredibly ignorant or part of a vast right wing conspiracy headed by a puppet.

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    • Author by pick of the litter (January 11, 2007 4:40 pm ET)
         

      another link to that poll: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

      These commentators are shills and liars.

      There are prominent Republicans who oppose the escalation too, as mentioned by Olbermann on MSNBC last night.

      " “This is a dangerously wrong-headed strategy that will drive America deeper into an unwinnable swamp at a great cost,” Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement."

      "Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, an influential spokesman for conservative congressional Republicans, said that, after recently visiting Iraq for meetings with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, he was convinced that the solution in Iraq had to be a political one, not a military one."

      "Two other congressional Republicans influential in foreign policy, Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, a member of the Armed Services Committee, and George Voinovich of Ohio, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, voiced similar responses. “In Baghdad, the violence is clearly sectarian, and I don’t think more troops is the answer to the sectarian violence,” Collins said."

      from: [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

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    • Author by heru (January 11, 2007 5:27 pm ET)
         

      If Bush had just asked his Daddy why he didn't invade Baghdad and overthrow Saddam, we could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. If the moron won't listen to his own father, whose puppet is he?

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    • Author by Lynn (January 11, 2007 6:16 pm ET)
         

      but damn!

      [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

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      • Author by pick of the litter (January 11, 2007 7:46 pm ET)
           

        "My Fox guys, I love every single one of them." --Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

        How she has any credibility is a wonder. She doesn't sweat under fire, that is her talent. Like Tony Snow, she can dish out the bull and keep a straight face.

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      • Author by Sams Computer (January 12, 2007 12:18 pm ET)
           

        COLIN POWELL AND THE GENERALS WERE NOT "YES" MEN.

        THEY WERE HONEST MEN!

        SO BUSH FIRED THEM!

        RICE and the NEW GENERALS are the new "YES SIR" subordinates that our Dictator needs. Because our Dictator is the "Decider." He, and only he knows what's best. And "What's Best" is His War and His Legacy.

        Any other President, Republican or Democrat would not have Invaded Iraq.

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        • Author by Lynn (January 12, 2007 10:25 pm ET)
             

          find these neo-cons a fascinating lot. They are excellent subjects for in-depth psychological studies. I particularly find Condi Rice fascinating. Her father was minister so I'm sure that would account for her maybe being a social conservative, she was raised in a very religious household. What I don't understand is this attraction to neo-con militarism. Where did that come from? That philosophy is absolutely contrary to the teachings of Jesus. Remember during the time of Jesus there were groups of Jewish zealots or freedom fighters if you will that were fighting against the domination of the Jewish people by the Roman government and often doing so through violent means. They wanted Jesus to join their cause but Jesus did not condone the violence, and these people had real grievance. They were being subjugated and oppressed by the Romans, but Jesus said no violence. Now maybe I'm being too presumptive and I'm assuming that Rice still adheres to the teachings of her Christian upbringing, maybe she doesn't who knows. (...and for all my non-Christian fellow posters, I do know that you don't have to share my religious beliefs to be good upstanding ethical and peace loving people that you guys are) Besides, I must admit that I'm not a pacifist, if struck I fight back but I don't advocate violence as the first or only means of defense. These neo-cons are out looking for and provoking battles that they make other people fight for them by the way.

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    • Author by valentinian (January 11, 2007 6:47 pm ET)
         

      ...even in my head, pronounce this man's name as "Bay-ner."

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    • Author by representativepress (January 11, 2007 8:22 pm ET)
         

      President Bush's False Premise on Iraq War and Terrorism Selling his plan for escalating the war in Iraq [link to www.youtube.com]

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