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O'Donnell, Hannity baselessly report that Bush called for "timetable"

January 11, 2007 4:46 pm ET

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Fox News host Sean Hannity and NBC News White House correspondent Kelly O'Donnell both suggested that President Bush's statements that "America's commitment [in Iraq] is not open-ended" and that the "Iraqi government plans to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November" amounted to a timetable for withdrawal. However, Bush set no conditions on the U.S. military's involvement in Iraq during his January 10 prime-time speech, as various news reports have noted.

On the January 10 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Hannity built on former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's (R) assertion that Bush offered a "new strategy" by claiming that Bush said "it's not open-ended. And he said that there's going to be a period of time." Later, when former Iowa governor and 2008 presidential candidate Tom Vilsack (D) claimed that "[t]his is simply the same old strategy with just 20,000 more lives at risk," Hannity disagreed, asserting that Bush "said it's not open-ended. Talked about a timetable, which hadn't been discussed before."

On the January 11 edition of NBC's Today, O'Donnell uncritically reported Bush's statement that the "commitment is not open-ended." Moments later, O'Donnell asserted that Bush had made a "stark change" because he previously "rejected setting timetables saying that would 'help the enemy' " but announced during his speech that the Iraqi government "plans to take responsibility ... by November."

Various media reports noted that Bush's statements in his speech do not constitute time limits or conditions. On the January 10 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, reading from excerpts of Bush's speech, CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux referred to the "open-ended" comment as "the big question." Malveaux continued: "What does that mean? What is the timetable? We understand the president, of course, is going to say he would hope that the Iraqi troops are able to secure their country by November. But in terms of whether or not there's a plan B, this administration cannot answer that question." A January 10 Associated Press article released after the speech noted that Bush "put no deadlines on Baghdad." A January 11 Washington Post article noted that for other goals Bush put forward, Bush "proposed no penalties for failing to comply with these milestones -- on the theory, his aides said, that it would be counterproductive to be seen as dictating terms to the Iraqi government." The article also noted that Bush put forward no timetable for the withdrawal of 21,500 additional troops being sent to Iraq.

Additionally, neither Hannity nor O'Donnell noted that Bush's supposed "timetable" actually delayed the Iraqi government's previously announced goal for assuming control over security in Iraq. As a December 5, 2006, Associated Press article noted, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki told ABC News that "I can tell you that by next June, our forces will take over the security of the country."

From the January 10 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

MALVEAUX: Another important point here. He says in another excerpt, "I have made it clear to the prime minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended. If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people."

And Lou, that really is the big question. What does that mean? What is the timetable?

We understand the president, of course, is going to say he would hope that the Iraqi troops are able to secure their country by November. But in terms of whether or not there's a plan B, this administration cannot answer that question.

From the January 10 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

GIULIANI: The new strategy will be a sufficient number of soldiers and troops, mostly Iraqi but also American, to hold areas. And I hope -- I mean, the thing I would add to it is, a lot of accountability. I think you need measures. You need statistics. You need to be able to determine whether or not you've brought the violence down. If it doesn't work, then you got to put more people in.

HANNITY: Yeah. You know, and he said it's not open-ended. And he said that there's going to be a period of time. And this is time for Maliki and the Iraqis to step up.

[...]

VILSACK: It's obvious that the president has only been listening to advisers that agree with him. And I strongly disagree with folks who say this is a change of strategy, this is a new strategy. This is simply the same old strategy with just 20,000 more lives at risk.

And I honestly believe that it's time for the American public to speak. They are ultimately the boss in all of this. It is pretty clear the American public is not sold on this plan, and I think it's important for the American public to speak strongly and with a very -- a single voice, that, "Mr. President, we do not support an escalation in Iraq. This is not the way to win in Iraq."

The way to win in Iraq is to give the Iraqis the accountability and the responsibility for their own nation, and it's long overdue.

HANNITY: Well, the president was very clear. And I couldn't disagree with you more in terms of this being a different plan. He said it's not open-ended. Talked about a timetable, which hadn't been discussed before. Also gave very specific information about what's going to be different this time, including oil-revenue sharing, going into the neighborhoods, holding, not leaving.

From the January 11 edition of NBC's Today:

O'DONNELL: And gone was his repeated pledge to stay in Iraq as long as it takes.

BUSH: I have made it clear to the prime minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended.

[...]

O'DONNELL: Another stark change for President Bush. He had long rejected setting timetables, saying that would "help the enemy." But now?

BUSH: To establish its authority, the Iraqi government plans to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November.

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    • Author by tommy (January 11, 2007 4:54 pm ET)
         

      I wouldn't expect Bush to announce publicly a timetable or an exact date for our troop withdrawal..........however there should be a fairly firm, yet private, date made very clear to those in Iraq who will be responsible for their government to step up and take control.

      At least we got "it's not open-ended" out of him, before it was always "stay until the job is finished".

      Any announced timetable to the world only puts those trying to stir the chaos in Iraq on notice to hold off until then.

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    • Author by tommy (January 11, 2007 4:56 pm ET)
         

      I love the little clock in the lower left corner of this H&C broadcast - "WHERE'S THEIR PLAN?", with the counter ticking below it.

      How ridiculous.

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      • Author by valentinian (January 11, 2007 5:08 pm ET)
           

        That they have 41 minutes to come up with a plan, or it's 41 minutes since Bush announced Stay the Course II: Electric Boogaloo?

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        • Author by darkerwiththeday (January 11, 2007 8:18 pm ET)
             

          Electric Boogaloo.......I've just finished wiping the coffee from my keyboard. That is an absolute classic. I'm still giggling - awesome!

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      • Author by mr. l (January 11, 2007 5:12 pm ET)
           

        i give MM two weeks before they start suggesting the new congress is 'lazy...has no plan for anything and the plans they have now aren't working...see, we were better off with the 109th...grrr!...kick the bastards out NOW!!...'

        Neocons patience will disappear in a (fox) heart (land) beat...

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    • Author by Intergalatic Purveyor (January 11, 2007 5:20 pm ET)
         

      ...I don't know what plan they are talking about but if it is a phased withdrawl, it seems most of the country is for it. I will take a wild guess that more and more people will be for it as the year unfolds.

      This "plan" by the President is going to work about as well as Custer's plan to wipe out Sitting Bull.

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    • Author by Sagra (January 11, 2007 5:29 pm ET)
         

      The troops will be there until January 20, 2009.

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    • Author by nerzog (January 11, 2007 5:53 pm ET)
         

      Remember how he and the other flying monkeys ridiculed any Democrat who called for a timetable? Now that he thinks Bush is suggesting one, he's all for it.

      What a maroon.

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      • Author by fantagor (January 11, 2007 6:16 pm ET)
           

        If a Democrat or liberals merely suggest the application of a timetable metric in Iraq, it's traitorous. But if the President insinuates it, barely, what a brilliant idea!

        Fox's mission statement: kiss W's ass 24/7; put Democrats feet to the fire 24/7; never apologize for inaccurate reports, distortions or outright lies; hire stooges willing to swap their scruples for a pay check; worship and pay homage to the Sith Lords at PNAC.

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    • Author by edenscape246494 (January 11, 2007 6:02 pm ET)
         

      To anyone who suggests that a timetable is not a good idea because the enemy could wait us out I posit two scenarios:

      1. Even if we sneek out in the dead of night on an unannounced date can't those same time table waiting jihadists pounce the very day after we stealth out anyways

      2. What if the terrorists Bush speaks of are counting on NO timetable...hoping the stubborn W keeps us there through 2008 at which point the terrorists can attack American soil again...for the first wave we'd have firemen and policemen and militias to help out and after flying back from Iraq and Afghanistan we'd have our overextended, overtoured, battle weary, dwindling millitary force to back them up?

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      • Author by tommy (January 11, 2007 6:13 pm ET)
           

        My answer;

        1) I have never maintained that an unannounced timetable is some sort of guarantee the violence won't continue after we're gone. However, if we publicly state an absolute withdrawal date any terrorist or terrorist group worth their salt are going to pull back, invite a false sense of security and gear up for the day after that.......it's only common sense. The unannounced date will not prevent further violence, it's just that an announced date plays into enemies strategies too neatly.

        2) I am not sure exactly what you are saying? If we stay there for the foreseeable future then the terrorists planning another attack will know we are weak at home and strike knowing we are bogged down in Iraq? They could have done that in the past 4 years.

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        • Author by Citizen J (January 11, 2007 6:45 pm ET)
             

          "The unannounced date will not prevent further violence, it's just that an announced date plays into enemies strategies too neatly."

          And also has the *intentional* side benefit of being UNNANOUNCED. Meaning, we, the US public, will NEVER be able to get a straight answer to WHEN this supposed pull-out will occur. "Soon" or "when we've won" or "when the mission is complete". More of the same bs.

          How many more people get to die for Dubiya's lies and ego?

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    • Author by edenscape246494 (January 11, 2007 6:44 pm ET)
         

      Fair enough on point one, so since it's damned if we do and damned if we don't we might as well have had timetables, even private ones, from the start of the post Mission Accomplished war. Republicans backed W to the hilt that there was never a need for conditions and benchmarks...interestingly my ccousin who is deployed there wonders about the nature of a mission with no stated goals as well

      As for point two what I'm saying is maybe Bin Laden wants us to stay in Iraq for all long as possible...deplete our ranks and pocketbooks policing a civil war...maybe he's waited four years b/c Bin laden wants to hit us when we are at our weakest

      Regards

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      • Author by tommy (January 11, 2007 6:53 pm ET)
           

        You make a valid point about bin Laden and him wanting us to stay in Iraq - you could very well be right about that.........the longer we are there policing their conflicts, the less our bullseye is on him.

        And another side note that is potentially very dangerous, if anything happens to Pakistan's president, and he is a target for sure, bin Laden could waltz in there and be that much closer to nucleur weapons.

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    • Author by edenscape246494 (January 11, 2007 6:53 pm ET)
         

      I believe I am entitled to an answer from the government as to what they are doing, why, where, when and for how long.

      Secrecy starts a slippery slope

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    • Author by edenscape246494 (January 11, 2007 7:02 pm ET)
         

      Good point on Pakistan Tommy, this is why I have such a huge problem with W bogging us down in Iraq any further without some semblence of structure...I'll concede private timetable but I want a few members from each party privy to the details. Alas I still feel that Iraq will fall to hell when we leave regardless of how long we stay...if not to civil war then to outside invasion.

      I also think Bush is gonna try and stir the bees nest in Iran...I think this was the first shot---BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. military operation Thursday in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil that resulted in the arrests of six Iranians has drawn a sharp denunciation from Iraq's Kurdish regional government.

      A spokesman for the autonomous regional government and its presidency expressed their "alarm" and condemned the Thursday morning operation.

      They characterized it as a raid on the Iranian consulate in Irbil, "which opened in the provincial capital in an agreement between the Iraqi government and the Iranian government."

      The Kurdish regional government is based in Irbil.

      The Kurdish statement, which includes a call for the immediate release of the detainees, says the consulate is entitled to immunity in accordance with the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963.

      The statement also says the Kurdish government, which covers the provinces of Irbil, Sulaimaniya and Duhuk, needs to be informed when such actions are taken.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 11, 2007 9:33 pm ET)
         

      Oh no!!!! Now all the turrists will do is wait us out, knowing that we'll be gone after the time table expires. Why is Bush setting time tables when the last I heard from him and his minions, we were supposedly winning this thing. (Wasn't the insurgency in its last throes a while back, too? Just asking...)

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    • Author by aDifferent McCain (January 12, 2007 11:21 am ET)
         

      As far as suggesting the democratic party has no plan, they didn't use the clock on H&C to begin that.

      If I remember clearly did a few NCMP (my new acronym for Neo-Con Mouth Pieces) start yelling about liberals not proposing a plan, days before they even were in office officially.

      I think we are about to see 2 years of neo-cons screaming that the liberals have not fixed Iraq. While Bushy does whatever he wants.

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