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Offering no evidence, WSJ questioned Clinton's, Obama's "electability"

January 12, 2007 2:08 pm ET
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A January 11 Wall Street Journal article, titled "Democrats' Litmus: Electability," purported to examine whether Democratic voters would consider presumptive presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL) "electable" in a nationwide race, citing "[w]idespread concerns" about both candidates. The Journal, however, offered no evidence to support the idea that Clinton and Obama are "unelectable" and ignored polling data indicating otherwise.

Claiming that the Democratic Party is "known for subjecting presidential wannabes to a battery of litmus tests," the Journal reported that "Democrats are uniting in raising one big issue for 2008: electability." The Journal offered what it suggested are the reasons why there exist "[w]idespread concerns" about Clinton's and Obama's "electability": "Mrs. Clinton because she is a woman, and a polarizing figure; Mr. Obama for being African-American, and relatively inexperienced." The article went on to quote two progressives -- Campaign for America's Future co-director Robert Borosage and former NARAL Pro-Choice America president Kate Michelman -- who agreed that "electability" matters to Democratic voters. Borosage, however, did not address Clinton or Obama's "electability." Michelman merely noted, according to the Journal, that skeptics ask, " 'Do you think the country is really ready for a woman?' "

Unmentioned by the Journal, however, was polling data undermining the claim that voters are not ready for a female or black president. According to a December 6-7 Newsweek poll, when asked if they would vote for a qualified woman or African-American candidate for president, if nominated by their party, 86 percent of respondents said they would vote for a woman, and 93 percent responded that they would vote for an African-American candidate. When asked if America is ready to elect a woman, 55 percent said yes, while 35 percent said no. When asked if the country was ready to elect an African-American president, 56 percent said yes, while 30 percent said no.

The Journal also declared that the "three Republican frontrunners," Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, "have the opposite problem of their Democratic counterparts. Each of them is considered electable. The question is whether they can get nominated in a party in which the conservative base demands that the nominee oppose abortion, same-sex marriage and taxes, but believes that each of these men is suspect." Again, no evidence was offered to support this contention -- either that the potential GOP candidates are more electable in the general election, or that their views are antithetical to those of the Republican base. Indeed, there is evidence to suggest that Clinton and Obama are just as "electable" as the Republican frontrunners -- if not moreso. According to a December 15-17 CNN poll, when asked to choose between voting for Clinton and McCain, Romney, or Giuliani, respondents were split between Clinton and McCain (47 percent each), and favored Clinton over both Giuliani (48 percent-46 percent) and Romney (57 percent-34 percent). When respondents were asked to choose between voting for Obama and McCain, Romney, or Giuliani, McCain and Giuliani outpolled Obama (47percent-43 percent, and 49 percent-42 percent, respectively), but Obama was favored over Romney (51 percent-35 percent).

Notably, while the Journal claimed that Democrats are known for imposing "litmus tests," it did not apply the same loaded phrase to the Republican Party, despite reporting that the party's "conservative base demands that the nominee oppose abortion, same-sex marriage and taxes." Nor did the Journal note that the reason Romney and McCain may be considered "suspect" by the conservative base is not that the candidates' views are different from those held by the base on these issues, but that they have hedged or flip-flopped on them. According to The Washington Post, Romney, in preparation for his 2008 presidential bid, became "an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage and supported overturning the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion," but during his 1994 Senate campaign, Romney boasted he would be "effective in fighting discrimination against gay men and lesbians" and "proudly recalled his family's record in support of abortion rights." As Media Matters for America has noted, McCain has equivocated or flip-flopped on all of these issues. McCain offered a nonsensical defense of South Dakota's proposed ban on all abortions except when the life of the woman is threatened -- he claimed he would have signed the bill into law but would "also take the appropriate steps under state law ... to ensure that the exceptions of rape, incest or life of the mother were included." He voted to extend the 2003 tax cuts on dividends and capital gains after years of opposing them. And he has taken several inconsistent positions on gay rights issues.

The Journal went on to note:

Mr. Obama exudes the charisma, authenticity and optimism that many Democrats find lacking in Mrs. Clinton. Yet while he was raised in Hawaii by his white mother and grandparents from Kansas, his public identity is defined by the African skin and Muslim name inherited from his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, of Kenya. Inevitably Democrats ask: Would Americans elect an African-American, and one whose name rhymes with the terrorist they most revile?

The Journal offered no quotes from any Democrat questioning Obama's electability based on the fact that his last name rhymes with that of Osama bin Laden. (Presumably, the Journal was unable to locate any Democrats who are concerned about Obama's middle name.) As Media Matters for America has noted, several media figures -- especially conservative media figures -- have gone out of their way to mention Obama's middle name.

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    • Author by Marker (January 12, 2007 2:10 pm ET)
         

      I'm a Democrat, but please... No Hillary in "08

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      • Author by open_mind (January 14, 2007 12:01 am ET)
           

        I just don't want to hear all of the mindless whining Republicans for all of the next election cycle. It was bad enough during the Bill Clinton years. If Hillary (the bumper stickers will call her "Hitlery" no doubt).

        But then again, Republicans will rejoice that all of their decade old bumper stickers will instantly become relavant again and they won't have to fork out money for new ones.

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    • Author by publius (January 12, 2007 2:11 pm ET)
         

      The Republican Party doesn't subject "presidential wannabes to a battery of litmus tests,... ". The mere fact that the Right's media organs are so hysterical about Clinton and Obama speaks volumes: evidently they consider these two legitimate candidates.

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      • Author by redking75687 (January 13, 2007 5:17 pm ET)
           

        Here we go again...the next two years.

        Hillary and Obama are the right wing of the Democrats...the Repubs can't hand the torch of Crusade over to the 1/3 that are actually liberal. They know if they do lose, they have to give it to those who will keep the Master Plan in place.

        The right wing media is already trying to sell a Clinton/Obama campaign. They'll have such a whine-fest over it and con all the Democrats to vote right-wing instead of left. Hillary will be painted as the reincarnation of Karl Marx, not the vicious rightist killer she actually is. And war criminal Rice is being shopped as the Repub choice by the neo-cons right now. Nice choices, DLC or PNAC...and the war crimes will continue on.

        Both sides shouting how they'll make us stronger by making more war and taking away more rights and giving away more money. The media of course will focus on gender and skin colors...depth is not their medium, ya know. Either way we get war, corruption, and continually worsening tyrannical government.

        But don't blame me, I'll try to stop the machine politics, not vote for it. The Democrats will nominate a DLC ticket. You can bet on it, always the same with bad-odds favorites in a two horse race. Rotten payout though for favorites, it's the long shots that pay the best.

        The power is at the ballot box, it still belongs to the People. All we have to do is exercise it and say "No more in our name."

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        • Author by mefirst (January 14, 2007 7:29 am ET)
             

          shouting about how they will make us stronger by making more war..." who exactly is shouting that?

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        • Author by Ro (January 15, 2007 12:46 pm ET)
             

          Obama is not a 'conservative democrat'. I dont know where you got that from.

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    • Author by tommy (January 12, 2007 2:17 pm ET)
         

      The Journal should print an identical article about the Republican candidates as well, agreed. Everyone I see has their electability problems with one constituency group or another within their party to begin with. And whoever survives that test and makes it to the general election will have another hill to climb.......but really no different than many past elections.

      However, I find this quote from the article regarding Obama > "Would Americans elect an African-American, and one whose name rhymes with the terrorist they most revile?".............as sickening.

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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 12, 2007 2:29 pm ET)
           

        And, as an aside, if Bin Laden is indeed "the terrorist [Americans] most revile," it seems rather telling that GW said of him "I don't spend much time thinking about him, to tell you the truth." Not much revulsion apparent there.

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    • Author by mr. l (January 12, 2007 3:20 pm ET)
         

      in fact, I'm not going to be able to vote for McCain because...well,...his name RHYMES with pain...and,and,uumm...pain is BAD!! And I definitely can't vote for the NYC mayor because his name sounds like a bad pasta dish...And, you know, I just don't think I'm readyvto see 'soft on war' people take office..McCain, I mean, jeez..during the war, didn't he get CAPTURED?!? What does THAT say about his credentials? And the NYC guy just LET those planes hit the towers...come on, now...

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      • Author by wesley (January 12, 2007 4:30 pm ET)
           

        Your post has me roflol...a little humor does us all good...nice job.

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    • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (January 12, 2007 3:21 pm ET)
         

      "..his public identity is defined by the African skin and Muslim name inherited from his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, of Kenya. Inevitably Democrats ask: Would Americans elect an African-American, and one whose name rhymes with the terrorist they most revile?"

      I don't think it's Dems who are asking that. Unless by "Americans", they mean WSJ writers.

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    • Author by pick of the litter (January 12, 2007 3:56 pm ET)
         

      of the Democratic candidates of the last election? Maybe the staff at WSJ should form a business partnership with Pat Robertson and call it "Prophets for Profits"!

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    • Author by easymike (January 12, 2007 4:32 pm ET)
         

      For a country composed of countless races, religions creeds, etc. from every country on the planet; many Americans are quite provincial. Hussein is a popular name (Arabic, Hebrew, African) meaning Handsome like Kenneth does in Gaelic.

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    • Author by wesley (January 12, 2007 4:42 pm ET)
         

      mmfa finds a poll that supports Hillary while ignoring others.

      Investors Business Daily...Cook...LATimes...NBC...NPR...Fox...WNBC...Diageo...McLaughlin Group...all show McCain beating Hillary.

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      • Author by mr. l (January 12, 2007 5:11 pm ET)
           

        WSJ cited ZERO polls...and instead relied on the dubious assertion that Americans won't vote for Hillary because she is a woman, hence debunked, and that they won't vote for Barack because of 'phonicsphobia' (to be trademarked by me at a later date), which is ridiculous...

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        • Author by wesley (January 13, 2007 11:46 am ET)
             

          I agree that the WSJ shamelessly drug out the ridiculous assertions about race and gender.

          - respondents were split between Clinton and McCain - mmfa

          This quote, however, is a dubious attempt by mmfa to promote Hillary's popularity. They searched for and found one poll that showed Hillary tied with McCain...while ignoring 9 other polls that showed Hillary trailing McCain.

          A more troubling aspect of the whole scenario is...are McCain, Giuliani, and Clinton the best that America has to offer...I sure hope not.

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    • Author by mefirst (January 12, 2007 7:03 pm ET)
         

      has a negative image of hillary because the media tells hem so. when you see her on something like meet the press she comes across as reasonable and likable, and not the fire breathing liberal dragon that the right portrays here as. before her announcement to the senate race in 2000 the republicans were licking their chops, figuring they had an easy win. and giuliani, with the personal history of his three marriages, and mccain, with his support for this misguided war, have major liabilities.

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    • Author by Andra (January 12, 2007 8:24 pm ET)
         

      Hillary and Obama are both very cautious pols and they're going to be so wobbly and pandering to the Lieberman/neocon/Israel first money force that a Republican who sounds good and talks well can get around them and seem reasonable . . . even if he says nice things about Bush. Obama and Clinton won't rub the Republican's nose in Bush's mess.

      I just read Whistling Past Dixie and Prof. Schaller makes a point of Wisconsin, the closest state in the '04 election, less than 1/2% for Kerry being a state that would have a problem with an anti-gun candidate, i.e., Hillary Clinton. Are we going to see Obama and Hillary in hunting gear? New Hampshire is another close one that Hillary and Obama would have problems winning.

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      • Author by mefirst (January 12, 2007 9:00 pm ET)
           

        or does she just want some reasonable laws? the laws that the gun manufacturers oppose.

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        • Author by Andra (January 12, 2007 10:45 pm ET)
             

          Is she going to be any good at explaining that? I've noticed she avoids explaining. And in her case, she's got a persona that speaks louder than anything she could say.

          Over the last 5 years, how many Democratic candidates have asked her to campaign for them? If she's so popular, she should be all over the country campaigning but I don't think she has been. I live in Central New Jersey and I don't think Hillary or her husband would help the Democratic congressional candidate if they campaigned here. Same with Obama; he wouldn't help the Democratic candidate.

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          • Author by mefirst (January 12, 2007 11:08 pm ET)
               

            you called her "antigun". i don't think she's any more antigun than i am. i think people have the right to own them, but no one needs assault weapons or machine guns.

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            • Author by Andra (January 13, 2007 8:58 am ET)
                 

              Hillary Clinton would be the one who needs to explain and convince voters that she's not antigun. I don't think she can do that to gun-owner voters in Wisconsin no matter how many Arabs she's happy to bomb.

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              • Author by mefirst (January 13, 2007 8:06 pm ET)
                   

                you explain it to me. what is the basis of your contention that she is "antigun". i'm not talking about the right wing perception, but what you claim is her stance.

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                • Author by mefirst (January 14, 2007 7:24 am ET)
                     

                  your contention that she did not campaign across the country is untrue. she did so extensively in fall 2006. and i can't imagine the democratic candidate pretty much anywhere that would not be glad to have bill clinton appear. maybe a few states in the south.

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                  • Author by Andra (January 15, 2007 12:12 am ET)
                       

                    And its not a left-right; Republican-Democrat thing, either. Personally, I think she's terrible for women, not "feminist'" at all; she's the boss's wife or daughter starting at the top, the Ivanka Trump of politics. Only Ivanka may be competent and Hillary isn't, witness the healthcare fiasco and her warmongering.

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                    • Author by mefirst (January 15, 2007 7:36 am ET)
                         

                      you're just spouting a lot of cliches. you do agree you were wrong when you said nobody wanted the clintons to campaign for them?

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                      • Author by Andra (January 15, 2007 9:19 am ET)
                           

                        The Clintons did nothing for my Democratic congressional candidate here in NJ-7 District, Central New Jersey. And I'm a good example of why Democratic politicians are wary of the Clintons. I'm a reliable Democratic voter who thinks the Clintons were and are a cancer on the Democratic party. Loss of a 40 year majority in the House after 2 years of Bill Clinton; a 50+ seat loss. It is truly breathtaking that anyone who cares about keeping the Republicans out of power so they can't slow-murder entitlements would think of voting for Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic presidential nominee.

                        Hillary Clinton alienates people like me. I'd be turned off by a picture of my local politician smiling next to Hillary. (Like the pictures I've seen of Hillary smiling next to John McCain, the man who said to a televised audience "Why is Chelsea so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." And she beams next to him. Ugh.)

                        If I feel that way and I normally vote for Democrats, a Democratic candidate in a Republican district like NJ-7 knows she won't be helped getting some normally Republican and independent voters by having the Clintons campaign. Give me a list of places and candidates around the country that Hillary Clinton campaigned for last year. If she's toxic here, she's even more toxic in the close states that Kerry won by narrow margins: WI, MI, MN, PA, NH, OR.

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                        • Author by mefirst (January 15, 2007 11:47 am ET)
                             

                          oct 22 paramus, nj "campaigned for" senator menendez. 10-17 in minneapolis to campaign for demo senate candidate. 10-13 in miami to campaign for gubernaorial candidate jim davis. 10-8 campaigned for connecticut congressional candidate diane ferrell, 10-8 campaigned for senate candidate sherrod brown in ohio, 10-3 campaigned for jim webb in virginia, 6-24 campaigned with pennsylvania gov ed rendell. time.com 8-20-06: "more than half of those surveyed- 53%-said they had a favorable impression of her, she registered higher than the other most familiar names in the potential democratic field al gore [49] john edwards [46] john kerry [45]. according to surveyusa newspoll #8304 released 2-13-06: "in a hypothetical election held today in arkansas for president, hillary clinton defeats republican gov. mike huckabbe 52% to 43%, according to a survey poll of 583 registered arkansas voters". i haven't made up my mind who i will support, but to say hillary is "toxic" is to agree with the right wing spin.

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    • Author by Watcher_IL (January 13, 2007 10:33 am ET)
         

      We heard the Conservadamus's prophecise in 2000 that Hillary would lose her Senate race because " nobody likes her", and the same prediction when she ran for reelection. If the pattern holds and they continue their forecasting, Hillary will be our next president. :P

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    • Author by temphandle plumbed87laurence (January 13, 2007 11:56 am ET)
         

      Why are we talking about the two potential candidates that the republicans would most like to face. Hillary cannot be elected, too many hate her and many others will not vote for a woman. Obama is too green as a politician and America is still too racist to elect a black man president (note the success of the underlying racism of the Repub Party). Both will be easy targets of the right wing media machine. The Democrats need a candidate who can win without having to overcome their own minuses and drawbacks.

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