Limbaugh on Obama: "If he's got fire in his hands, what has he got in his pants?"
On the January 18 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, discussing Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) smoking, Rush Limbaugh said: "If he's got fire in his hands, what has he got in his pants?"
Earlier, Limbaugh had played an audio clip of Manhattan Institute senior fellow John H. McWhorter from the January 17 edition of The Big Story with John Gibson, during which McWhorter said, referring to Obama: "I think a lot of people find him sexy, and I think, even in today's America, there's a sense that there's something vaguely sexy about cigarettes; you've got fire in your hand."
Limbaugh also called Obama a "godlike figure to the godless," adding, "[Y]ou don't criticize gods or godlike figures."
From the January 18 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Gibson says, "Obama's dirty little secret: He's ... a cigarette smoker. ... [Q]uestion is: Would you vote for a smoker as president? John, is that kind ... of an impediment" for him?
McWHORTER [audio clip]: Obama is seen as very, very cool. I think a lot of people find him sexy, and I think, even in today's America, there's a sense that there's something vaguely sexy about cigarettes; you've got fire in your hand.
LIMBAUGH: Now, I love John McWhorter, and I -- John McWhorter is brilliant -- but where has he been? Is anybody portraying cigarette smoking as sexy? Oh, Holly -- Hollywood does -- Hollywood, and I've -- you know, it does. I'm going to -- I'm sure I'm going to infuriate some of you people, but it looks cool. I mean, people who know how to smoke cigarettes look cool. Why do you think Hollywood does it?
They're freaking out in there on the other side of the glass. Dawn's face is turning four sheets of red. I'm not talking about it is cool, I'm saying it can be made to look cool. Why do you think Hollywood does it? Why do you think movies -- why do you think kids end up trying it? It looks cool. They make it look cool. It's one of the big seductive problems with it, and this guy's effectively saying it here.
He's saying there's something vaguely sexy about cigarettes. You've got fire in your hand. And now that's -- what he's saying is Obama can make smoking sexy. What If Obama is seen smoking in public, and it is said because no one wants to criticize him because, he's above criticism, because he's a godlike figure to the godless. Now, you don't criticize gods or godlike figures. What if the whole anti-smoking bunch has to come out, 'cause they're a bunch of libs too, has to find a way to justify Obama's coolness? Because he's got fire. If he's got fire in his hands, what has he got in his pants? You're gonna hear all of these things.
Not defending Rush, but I dont understand the point of this?
They conveniently left out the part where Rush exposes liberal hypocrisy with regard to smoking. Liberals have tried to ban smoking in your own car and are working on banning it in outer space, yet you don't hear anyone mad at Obama for being a smoker?
at least be consistent. liberals were actually consistent with the lewinsky scandal, they defended him but they've never held marriage or committed relationships in a high regard anyway.
Is Obama exposing his smoking to others that do not wish to be around it? Does he smoke at restaurants?
Lots of liberals smoke. Lots of conservatives smoke. Some of them just don't want to smell your smoke when they're eating or trying to walk into a grocery store.
They conveniently left out the part where Rush exposes liberal hypocrisy with regard to smoking. Liberals have tried to ban smoking in your own car and are working on banning it in outer space, yet you don't hear anyone mad at Obama for being a smoker?
I seriously thought you were being sarcastic. This is like pointing at the anti-gay-marriage wing of the Republican Party and asking why hasn't Cheney shot his own (lady-lovin') daughter.
Statistics show that the divorce rate in red states is higher than in blue states. The state with the lowest divorce rate is the bluest of the blue states, Massachusetts.
The only thing I can say that is positive about the present occupant of the White House, is that of the last three Republican Presidents we've been subjected to, he is the only one who is NOT a divorcee. Not so Ford and Saint Ronald.
Please explain Limbaugh's definition of "committed relationship". He is a draft dodging, drug using, overweight, serial divorcee blowhard.
>>"Liberals have tried to ban smoking in your own car ...working on banning it in outer space"<<
Example of myths that soon become stridently-spoken right-wing "facts".
FYI: the car ban applies to smoking in a car when CHILDREN are present.
FYI: A search of google news reveals nothing about banning smoking in space. There ARE, however, bans in effect for PUBLIC SPACES. Perhaps this right-winger is very confused about the word "space"....
"Louisiana, Arkansas, Puerto Rico and Bangor, Maine, have recently enacted laws banning smoking in cars when children are present, according to Matt Barry, director of policy research for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, a Washington-based advocacy group."
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in crazy old liberal Arkansas. With their crazy loony liberal governor, Mike Huckabee.
Preacher Huckster is no longer governor (term limits). We got Mike Beebe. Yeah, I know Mike Huckabee to Mike Beebe. Hey! We're simple folk, but at least we're not South Carolina.
Good call on Huckabee. BTW, I thought Huckabee came off great on Jon Stewart the other night. He'd be a formidable candidate except he seems like too nice a guy.
Don't astronauts work in pure oxygen environments within shuttles and space stations. Kind of dangerous places to have an open flame.
I wish I could just punch babies in the face while I'm in my car. It's my own car, for pete's sake, not the government's! But I can't because the loony left won't let me.
Ok. That one got to me. I've been laughing for about 10 min straight. Thank goodness I'm the boss. My employees are starting to look at me funny.
In my town (Greenville, SC), it's the *conservatives* who are banning smoking. The irony of it is, everyone's calling them liberals!
I don't care if smoking bans are considered conservative or liberal, I support them 100%.
Liberals who poke so much fun at the faith-based community shouldn't be smoking with all the science available against it. Smoking is truly a faith-based enterprise.
>>>"Liberals who poke so much fun at the faith-based community shouldn't be smoking"<<<
If you are insinuating Obama, as a smoker, "pokes fun at the faith-based community", are you going to supply examples of him doing so?
Obama is a man of faith and I was not referring to him. I am referring to those on the left who can't stomach the "creationists" and think religion is total nonsense. I'm sure you've read their posts on here. I know I have.
... being a "creationist" isn't addictive.
people being creationists in their own space, but please don't do it while I'm trying to have a meal in a restaurant.
is total nonsense.
>>>"...Rush exposes liberal hypocrisy ... [liberals] never held marriage or committed relationships in a high regard anyway."<<<
Please expound to us "liberals" the high regard the twice-married, twice-divorced ('I had a great time in the Dominican Republic [with bottle of Viagra] wish I could tell you about it') Mr. Limbaugh holds marriage and committed relationships.
That's "THRICE-married, THRICE-divorced."
Just want to be clear and accurate.
Banning smoking in space makes sense in the same way that banning smoking near gas pumps makes sense. YOU DON'T WANT TO BLOW THE PLACE UP! It only seems to be a "liberal" position because of the right's current war on science and common sense.
If you want to smoke in space, go right ahead. Just pay for your vehicle yourself. Go by yourself or, better yet, take Water-Lugger Rush with you. Have him bring along one of those huge di-sorry, CIGARS he likes to suck. If he doesn't blow you out of the sky you'll be so sick you'll wish he had.
To start I fully support Rush's right to smoke in space. I highly encourage him to give it a try. Of course there is no oxygen is space so I don't think it will work.
Now for your comment about marriage. Yeah those conservatives are fully behind marriage. In fact they love it so very much they try to have multiple marriages in their life time. Rush has gone through multiple wives. So has Gingrich and Reagan. Yep. They LOVE marriage.
Christ, man, you and Limbaugh need to cool it with the hypocrisy talk. When have smokers ever been pariahs in the eyes of Liberals? Liberals may be against the Big Tobacco Lobby, but I've never known a Liberal to shun a politician because he was a smoker. I've never known a Liberal to shun ANYONE because he/she was a smoker. Liberals in general believe that what you do with your body and your free time are your decision. Yet you and Rush and all the other ditto-heads conflate "anti-Tobacco Lobby" and "anti-smoker." The truth is, those of us on the left don't have an equivalent demographic to shun like the right has homosexuals, because the left is more heterogeneous and typically doesn't shun people that are different.
And really, man. Cigarette smoking? Is that all you've got? If you're looking for an analogous situation on the right that is just as ridiculous, here goes: The right likes to preach that they are the party of morals and family values. I think we can agree on that (even if we can't agree that the left is anti-smoker). If it was determined that a Republican candidate regularly watched Desparate Housewives, would YOU be the first in line to withdraw your support for said candidate? After all, what TV programs a candidate is not any more trivial than whether he or she smokes cigarettes. Family values is
undeniably
a selling point for Republican candidates. Would watching Desparate Housewives make the Republican candidate and his supporters hypocrites? I wouldn't think so, and neither would any of you on the right, but that doesn't seem to stop you from making rediculous claims of hypocrisy when it comes to Obama and his cancer sticks. Now that is hypocrisy for you.You're so frequently confused. And so frequently concerned with standards. Sometimes it seems that you're all that stands between MMFA and anarchy.
In staid New Hampshire, media was observing that even the citizens of staid (by reputation) New Hampshire treated Obama like a rock star on his recent visit there. So it seems pretty obvious to me that Limbaugh's trying to counter this by trying to tar Obama with the Clinton/Lewinsky brush.
He's trying to get people to hate Obama based on pure speculation. Trying to say that just because Obama smokes, maybe he's an adulterer, too! It's pretty lame IMO, but there's no accounting for the freaks and idiots who give Limbaugh the time of day.
IMNSHO, Obama OOZES sex appeal out of every pore. Consider, in contrast, the sex appeal of the Republican 2008 hopefuls... zero, zilch, zip, nada. Might I even say, "ICK."
When you don't bother to educate your voters about the things that matter, yes, some are going to vote based on the candidate's sex appeal. Limbaugh's playing a dangerous game, here ... average Americans are still very positively disposed toward Bill Clinton overall. Unless Limbaugh can actually prove that Obama has cheated on his wife (and he's stupid enough to run for President these days with that skeleton in his closet), Limbaugh is just going to look like a jealous nerd... not that he doesn't already.
...you want to silently (and irresponsibly) assert that a) someone is a racist without immediate or contextual due cause (sure, bring out the tired list: McNabb, etc...), simply because; b) he contends, along with everyone else, that a certain public figure who happens to be black, is quite sexy (and he IS sexy). And that's it. It's fashioned in the manner of a "headline" meant to jump out at you c/o one, MM. It's paradoxical that a simple statement of "fact" (from MM) can display a more destructive, hidden agenda in an attempt to expose (or distort) mere opinion in the political realm (from Limbaugh). Apparently, the latter isn't permitted anymore. It's only because Media Matters draws no attention to anything of real substance here in a lazy exposure of that opinion that it's then left to the reader to jump to certain "conclusions", read cultural stereotypes. Limbaugh really didn't go there. It's a trick as old as The New York Herald. In effect, MM has taken it upon themselves to take an assumptive, racist stance--putting thoughts in someone else's head (including yours) that may not be there, as to brand someone they clearly don't like, a racist. In today's climate, that's hate. However, because they made no actual claims of racism, it somehow provides an immunity-defense. And you are the racist for claiming such and so on... To be fair, I think this kind of feature would best be left for a "Pure Entertainment" section with a disclaimer. I'd have no problem with it. But since little is done here for fun and with an increasingly police state-styled view of public discourse, we got this. To be just, you oughta be ashamed of yourself, Media Matters. I'll let O'Reilly's potshots at you slide this time. Thank you for asking why, Doris. I think it puts us a bit closer to the truth. Put that in a headline. I'm going to.
Matt c/o Avatar Media
a limp doodle.
This is just good humor. Lighten up. I don't understand the conservative misinformation we should evaluate here?? This seems like some poor intern at Media Matters was forced to listen to Rush and had to come up with something controversial. This is a stretch.
MMFA is very disapointing lately.
i don't recall seeing your name. perhaps it was something else before?
do nt know your point are you the police? Can you stick to the topic? Maybe you can answer my question I raised? Or are you just trying to play games?
Enlighten us with your analysis of other "disappointing" MMFA items "lately."
Also, I'd like to recommend that you familiarize yourself with the term "concern troll".
People like Rush only defend black people who he considers to be the "right" kind of black people. The only time that we have heard of lynching, besides James Byrd from Texas, was from Clarence Thomas and Rush regarding Rice. People like Rush have used code words like "what's in his pants" referring to the white boy's horror that some black kid has a bigger dick and maybe he's knows how to use it. That's what makes Rush and Bill worse than the sh** that comes from a horses ass. They use old code words while trying to appear innocent. I'm really old and and heard the same "code" words used time and time again. It get's old and it becomes really old when they keep using it and so many don't see thru it.
Thank you , all I wanted was some engaging , educated answers I appreciate it and I learned from it. Some on here want to attack me for asking questions I appreciate your answer.
I dont think there is any question that Rush is a horrible piece of human garbage.
i noticed a statement that mmfa is very disappointing lately.
It appears to me that you are ony here to distract and pull everyone off the topic at hand. Well continue, maybe they pay you well to do this. I'll just not respond to you anymore. BTW, you 're one of the most well mannered trolls I've ever encountered. Carry on dear!
>>"i don't recall seeing your name. perhaps it was something else before?"
I don't either. Maybe it was "Concern_Troll".
"very" is a weak word. Or, rolling the way you roll, it's very weak.
Dont understand the attitude? can you please expand?
Just keep saying what you believe. Put on your thick skin and a short memory. There are a huge number of attitudes here. My gentle hint ... Don't sweat it, just forget it.
there's nothing worse than a Liberal with an attitude.
I'd like to see somebody take a plastic bucket, about half-filled with dog crap, and dump it right square on Limbaugh's head.
It would be funny, and of course, I'm only joking, and it's all in fun.....so don't get all bent out of shape.
Good humor??? C'mon let's give credit where credit is due. Rush is hilarious!!!
If you listen to Keith Olbermann you would know that Rush is in fact a comedian....and a darn funny one.
Is it conservative misinformation if a oncservative talk show host says it? Most likely. this quote stands out. Limbaugh called Obama a "godlike figure to the godless," adding, "[Y]ou don't criticize gods or godlike figures." Of course it's speculation but it's not accurate information is it? An example would be nice from Limbaugh. What substantiates this absurd claim and subsequent absurd claims? Nothing. Con on the radio misinforming his audience through ignorant statements meant to perpetuate the myth that liberals or anyone who would follow Obama as being godless, meets the criteria.
"Con on the radio misinforming his audience through ignorant statements meant to perpetuate the myth that liberals or anyone who would follow Obama as being godless, meets the criteria."
Wrong. You and most other liberals on this site take things way too seriously. Limbaugh's whole monologue here was simply a joke. He wasn't being serious about anything. There's a reason why he has 20 million listeners a week, and it's not just because he's conservative. It's because he's funny and entertaining! That's one of the main reasons why Limbaugh has such a huge audience.
he made the statements and they are every bit the adjectives I listed above. I don't care if he was 100% serious or not. That has no relevence. Unlike conservatives who constantly search for people's motives, I focus on the merit of the comments. Or the lack there of in this case. "He's only joking" is just an excuse for his ridiculous comments.
>>>"There's a reason why he has 20 million listeners a week, "<<
Yes, and that their are 20 million who find closet racism and sexism "funny" is cause for regret, despair and embarassment, not pride.
by playing to people lowest most base emotions. He makes jokes by deriding democrats and making sexist comments. Joking about torture etc. etc. His popularity is a sad reflection of his listeners. He's a very popular creep who actually find humor in his statements. Ignorant is as ignorant does.
It is too bad. I have actually caught his show where he speaks about his mother and he can be a warm, interesting host. Too bad the guy spends most of his time as a schill for the neo-cons.
Limbaugh never jokes when he is railing about the Democrates. Does he think it's cool when he has that big cigar hanging out of his mouth. Maybe he should put that in his pants. Never mind, thats about the only time he keeps his mouth shut. john
"Sigmund Freud said, 'Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.' Oh yeah, well, sometimes it's a big brown dick! With a fat, arrogant, white collar business criminal asshole sucking on the wet end of it."
Sounds like Rush to a tee...
Sorry, I think that there are 20 million STUPID people. If you want entertainment, they call that comedy.
Get a 2 gallon plastic bucket (with a handle)....
Dump it on Truth Detector's head, swoosh around, mop up the floor, whatever.
Of course, I'm only joking. I like Truth Detector. He's a hoot.
Let me get this straight here: a three-time divorcee, recently busted for having a bottle of viagra under another's man prescription, jokes that Obama doesn't have any fire in his pants.
Got it.
Sounds like what they did to Harold Ford. Scare southern folks with rants about virile black politicians.
a magazine ran a picture of Obama in a swimsuit. Do you think we will see a picture of Hillary in a swimsuit next? (Quick, gouge out my eyes).
Ha ha ha! Funny stuff! Har har. Or Beck. How about Rove? Or Condi? Cheney? Ms. Bush? Maybe that Beck guy can pretend that someone is laughing with him, and he can discuss how awful it would be to see Rumsfeld in a thong.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Whew, that's such fun, and so interesting. Thanks for bringing that important topic up so we can all imagine political figures in bathing suits.
Now what was it we were talking about?
in a bananna hammock?
Aarrrgghhh. I just vomited in my mouth.
of a pretty clumsy segue more than once, but LH really came out of left field on that not-so-effortless set-up.
laughter is not only the best medicine. It's also the anecdote for the poison that makes Rush's teeth all bright and shiny.
>>"Do you think we will see a picture of Hillary in a swimsuit next? (Quick, gouge out my eyes)."<<
Yeah, and the picture will be taken during her first vacation as President Clinton.
gladly leatherhelmet
Loosen your chinstrap, let some oxygen in...
and get ready for an appearance on "Glenn Beck."
And this coming from the man who has divorced several times, has no children, and goes on vacation with other men and returns with somebody else's Viagra.
Why do radio and TV comments regarding sex, sexual persuasion, prostitution, etc all come from Fox and the right? What is with these people?
This seems like a pretty funny monologue to me. Not really anything controversial at all. Just good natured humor. That's what makes Limbaugh's show so entertaining.
Is in the eye of the beholder. Would Limbaugh say this to Obama's face? No, it would be in poor taste. There's nothing good natured about making hateful and disrespectful comments.
Hateful and disrespectful comments? Where? Limbaugh actually called Obama a "god-like figure." That doesn't seem to hateful to me. If you want to listen to hate then tune into Air America. You won't find any hate on Limbaugh's show.
Please say you're just pretending.
Limbaugh called Obama a god-like figure in an obvious (and lame) dig at the Democratic Party, and you thought it was a compliment?
Here's an indisputable, objective, verifiable fact for you:
Limbaugh is not funny.
PS: Thanks for the canard about Air America. I never get tired of that one.
"and you thought it was a compliment?"
I'm just saying that it's not hateful or disrespectful. It's merely satire. Like I said, if you want to listen to hate speech, then tune into Air America. That's where you'll find it.
...The Truthiness Detector...and that's all you need to know.
I swear I don't know who is wing nuttier Leather or The Truth (as filtered through a right wing brainwash machine) Detector. Two wild and crazy guys they are!
the winner by a mile has to be [drum roll] AnotherAmerican!
Again with the Air America lie.
Care to provide any examples, or are we just supposed to take your word for it?
I'm so liberal it'll make your head spin, but I've never (not once) listened to Air America (preachin' to the choir, IMO), so I wouldn't know one way or the other.
But you being an authority on their content, the way you go on about it, should be able to provide some samples, no?
do yourself a favor and listen to Air America Radio sometime. Its programs are consistently informative and entertaining, with great guests and nice variety of styles among the hosts. My personal favorites are Sam Seder and Rachel Maddow, as well as Robert Kennedy, Jr, and Mike Papantonio, who host Ring of Fire on weekends, but I listen to all the shows on the stream (I work from home so I get to listen a lot.) Check it out on airamericaradio.com--sometimes the choir needs a little "religion", too!
*** That's all Folks!
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Just kidding Truth!
>>>"You won't find any hate on Limbaugh's show."<<<
Right. That time Limbaugh mocked Bill Clinton on the __very day__ Clinton's mother died?? Limbaugh did that out of pure love.
You don't see the negative in Rush's comments? You're "God like" example was not said as a compliment. Give me a break. And Air America's hate radio?!! Ha! You have to be pretty ignorant to make that charge. Al Franken cries every time he's on the air for Pete's sake. Don't mistake well informed passionate reverance for our country and civic responsibility of paying attention to our elected officials as hate. Beside the point though. Rush's comments were obviously meant in a negative way. That is in itself hateful. There was no substance to his commentary. He was mocking him and people who like him. To you it may be harmless. That doesn't really mean anything to me. It doesn't change the deragatory nature of Rush's comments.
Wow, the disconnect with reality is astonishing. There are not so blind as those determined not to see. This is the guy that rails about Feminazis, that held up asked if his TV audience knew the Clintons had a dog and held up Chelsea Clintons picture. When you make your standard baseless assertions, I suggest you at least TRY to tenuously connect them with reality. This blatant outright nonsense makes it blatantly clear that you have no credibility, care nothing about reality and are willing to say absolutly ANYTHING no matter how ludicrous, as long as it furthers your delusional views.
On what planet do you live? On Rush Limbaugh's planet, liberals (defined as anyone not subscribing to his right wing kookiness) are "bad people"... I've heard him say it. Basically, what he's telling his listeners is that when they see their neighbor driving by with a John Kerry sticker still affixed to the bumper of his car they can automatically brand him as a bad person... they don't have to bother to learn anything more about him. He's liberal, therefore he's a bad person. His antagonism, in the guise of "humor", is designed to foment hatred of fellow Americans. Rush Limbaugh, perhaps more than any other living American, has contributed to the divisiveness and hatred in this country. He is pure evil... and morons eat up his schtick like it was ice cream.
"You won't find any hate on Limbaugh's show."
One word: "FemiNazis." Pathetic, puerile porn, masquerading as wit. I was subjected to his daily diatribes in the early 90's, by a co-worker who was a regular listener (and, concidentally or not, a very unhappy person). From that experience I would posit that Rush's 20 million listeners, and his bank account, confirm the wisdom of the conservative curmudgeon of Baltimore, H. L. Mencken: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
Ah. I see.
You're one of those.
Thanks for clearing that up. We now know everything we need to know about you.
>>"Just good natured humor"<<
You'll love tomorrow's show. Rush reenacts Amos n' Andy, with Obama as Amos. It's all just a lot of good fun.
McWhorter refrained from calling Obama "Mammy" like he did on Fox with John Gibson. I guess that's just lighthearted humor too.
I have a porch lamp out front. Would you like to come over and watch moths fly into it? Only 5 dollars!
I mean if Rush loses his entertainment value for you.
that the statement about Obama's pants will "energize the base", meaning the brow-ridge crowd will get angry and fearful because " If Obama get elected, he'll sleep with our white daughters!"
Heaven forbid. (roll eyes here)
Coulter and Limbaugh slinging subtle and not so subtle racist comments already. Yeah, The GOP is not racist. Please...
On the other hand maybe they aren't maybe they are just that addicted to power that they are willing to act so to maintain power.
I have no idea which is worse.
Well since he's a smoker he's probably got a lighter or matches in his pants...pocket that is ;-)
This obsession over Obama's smoking habit is ridiculous. Of course IF certain advocates hadn't made smoking the SIN of all time it would be a moot point.
Here's how the Great White Whale might reason (actually, unreason) his way to it:
Black men are promiscuous.
Promiscuous men get the clap.
Obama's groin is a burnin'.
I might be wrong about this. Maybe it's this:
Black men are well-hung.
Obama is all that below his belly button.
Either way, it's humor based on a pink man's prejudging of a black man.
Damn, I sometimes wish that I was Captain Ahab and that my lookout just cried out, "Thar she blows!"
But you're too smart.I saw the easy obvious root.
I posted an amateurish psychoanalysis of the Oxymorn yesterday (Portrait of the Addict as a Young Poor Excuse For a Man), so excuse me for this, but...
Rush very clearly states that smoking is sexy and seductive, that the not-too-subtly phallic cigarette MUST sway peoples minds to what's in Obama's pants.
This brings up two interesting points;
Rush is found in posession of Viagra, and has one of his stock publicity photos sporting a giant stogie (way too obvious substitute/ compensator ?)
Rush, if you've ever listened to him, is blatantly homophobic, and often lapses into a high-pitched effeminate "girly-man" voice when reciting his liberal straw man agenda.Most extreme homophobes are gay men lacking the courage to be honest with who they are.
And again (at the risk of being as ham-fisted as Rush himself), he poses for a picture sucking on a HUGE STOGIE!
Where's my PhD.?Freud's got nothin' on me.
Rush wants a hunk, a hunk of burning love. Homophobia (fear of homosexuals) often comes from homophobia (fear of self). Still, desire leaks out in language.
All you're doing is copying everyone else: First, Melanie Morgan referred to Obama as "halfrican", and later you did the same; now after Gibby reveals the "dirty little secret" that he smokes {which, if it was anythng like the cocaine use he admitted to in his autobiography published years ago, really isn't a secret}, you go saying he has "fire in his hands" . . .
The Oxy withdrawls must really be getting to you . . . you can't even come up with your own schtick anymore . . . it may be time for you to step aside in favor of Savage Weiner, Smearconish, and Beck . . .
And for The Truth Defecator and Ldoren: It ain't that liberals/progressives/Democrats don't have a sense of humor . . . believe me, there was many a chuckle heard on Nov. 8th of last year, especially when recalling the words of Karl Rove, who claimed he had "THE math" . . . its just that what we find humorous usually does not include sexism, racism, or murder . . . so you'll forgive me not busting out in a chuckle when I hear Crazy Annie "joke" about killing a sitting SC Justice or assassinating a sitting US president . . . Or hearing Rush make a metaphorical leap from Obama's smoking to speculating about his sexual promiscuity . . .
Maybe if you play your cards right, you can get to third base with him and find out for yourself.
Wll, Rush... to borrow Holly's phrase, I'll bet it ain't a "pink penis". I wonder if Rush ever ponders what's in Mitt Romney's pants? Or Dick Cheney's? The right wing screamers are becoming more and more bizarre every day. I hope I'm correct in my belief that Rush and his ilk are preaching to a more and more isolated choir each day...
Thanks goes out to Little Pinkie Limbaugh and Annie the C. for the kick-off for the final elimination of the Republican Party. I have written to both thanking them for their help in helping the exodus of Repubs from Congress. I believe for each hate-filled rant thousands of REPUBLICANS begin to doubt their party. If the TruthDetractor has any doubts, look at the numnbers from Black Rovember.I think the ether is subsiding and minds are clearing. Thank you "LP" Limbaugh, Thank you Annie the C. and the rest of the money grabbing, party destroying comics of the Wickedly Funny Right. Holly, your "Pee"Pee" post has been identified by MacIntosh as an uncontrollable brain virus.
...because it's fun to say, being both accurate and incongruent, for whereas a white guy's penis is the stumpy wand of privilege, it is truly pink and the color, pink, as we all know, is deeded to those other-than womenfolks to whom 2% of the world's land is deeded.
Pink penis also taps into race.
So, let's hope this phrase does spread like a virus! Long live "pink penis!"
The bonus is the neocons' response. They're atwitter reading it.
Just dissapointed.
You abviously are sexist.
It appears that one person's humor is another person's personal attack. It is very difficult to know when to laugh or when to stomp one's fist on the table in disgust around here lately.
For if Holly's "pink penis" tirade against men were uttered by a right wing talk show host and put up here for dissection, many posters would be outraged and we'd know it in a hurry.
Curious.
not atwitter.
Just dissapointed (sic).
And seemingly sad.
Another American, you and your posse have tossed "sexist" at me, or, in your case, "abviously (sic squared)...sexist. Sexism might not be the best descriptor for me or any woman, for men are the minority gender, but the holders of the majority of the power. 2% of the Fortune 500 CEOs are women:
[link to money.cnn.com]
This and other stats reveal systemic sexism, where gender differentiation benefits men. That's what sexism is. Since gender differentiation doesn't benefit me, I can't be sexist. I admit that I can be an arse or prejudiced or a fool. I admit that fill all these roles and hopefully, with aplomb.
"Pink penis" is a quirky way to consider privilege.
You fellas can cast it as a tirade or sexism, but you should ask yourselves, "Why does this agitate me? Why would Holly's coupling 'pink' and 'penis' have me lobbing verbal rocks at her?"
Rush has a pink penis and that's pivotal, even though some white men want to pretend that they aren't privileged. And Rush is a defender of privilege. That's his role. And those who defend him are defenders of The Defender of Privilege.
Holly, you are assuming that Rush has a penis. For the sake of not insulting our conservative posters please do not make blanket assumptions about conservatives.
you're right. So sorry.
Rumor has it that Rush's tiny pink member was bitten off by a crocodile named Trevor at Busch Gardens when he was a child. The Viagra, you ask? Simply a smokescreen... Sadly, it appears that Rush's anger can be traced to that event.
when you write about members being removed by crocs, I think of Captain Hook. You know the Cap'n's hand was replaced by a hook, which now has me wondering what's in Rush's pants!!!
Will somebody please flag these inquiring comments on what is inside Rush's pants? I am about to lose my Grape Nuts!
Rush started it!!!!
The same thing that's in his head: poo.
Rusty !
Can we all just agree that Rush, or whoever else is desperate enough or has enough cash, can worry about what's in his own pants?
I don't wanna know.............(fingers in ear, lalalalalala)
After rereading my post, it made no sense. What I meant to say was if Rush had enough cash to pay someone to find out what's in his......................
(oh, never mind, it's all just too disturbing)........
I don't even want to think about that, Holly. But whatever it is might possibly explain why Rush is so envious of Obama's.
Since gender differentiation doesn't benefit me, I can't be sexist.
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Where does that come from? So by your definition a black person can't be racist? That is absurd. A man or a woman who blatantly fosters stereotypes or prejudges or discriminates against a member of the opposite sex is sexist. You are not immune to that label, nobody is if they exhibit such behavior.
A black man can't be racist unless he wields disproportionate power within a system that differentiates and consequently rewards and punishes on the basis of race.
However, as I noted above, a black man can be "an arse or prejudiced or a fool," as I manage to be most days.
So, a black man might prejudge you, Tommy, but that prejudment isn't couched in a system that rewards those who are white and penalizes those who are black. His prejudgment isn't backed by crappy schools for black kids and those cops who are tainted by racism and embedded poverty.
I live in a racially mixed neighborhood. So, the police often visit our neighborhood because................................????????
The number one reason they're called to my neighborhood is because someone sees "a suspicious person."
I bet you can crack the code for "suspicious person."
I know you can.
Now, Tommy, I urge you to get beyond your disappointment in me, your shock, and your ad hom attacks...and talk to me.
I have not attacked you, I simply disagreed with your assertion. If you felt otherwise, I am sorry.
As for your "racist" and "sexist" definitions, I disagree. Perhaps it is just a semantic arguement, nevertheless those who exhibit such open discriminations don't get any softer labels ascribed to their prejudices from me, simply because they hold less proportianate "power". That is an excuse, in my opinion.
But I'm a big girl. It's just that we'd laid a stage of kindness and I'd rather not burn it.
I understand your point and Tommy, you might be right. Sexism might run both ways. Racism too. What I shared isn't my theory. It's just a standard theory and I hope you can glean some value from it, for when white guys assert that THE system isn't fair, that might be true for their circumstances, but when one considers averages, some people are more equal than others...and those people have pink penises.
To finish this part, "stomp" and "disguist" were not directed at you. I think a rereading of my posts will bear that out. The "tirade" was my description of your pink penis post. It may have been over the top and if so, I apologize....
And as all your posts do, they make me think and evaluate my own. Thank you for that. I have a feeling we both have equal disguist against anyone who exhibits behaviors of racism and sexism, regardless of who their target is.........and that is the important point here.
Tommy.
And thanks, my cyber-friend.
Gotta go with Tommy here. I've known women - mostly college professors, for some reason - who were extremely sexist, as I would use that term (viz., strongly prejudiced against men).
Power to the oppressive men and how they bond together against subserviant women..............
(just kidding Holly)
:)
Tommy!
Truly. Humor modulates temperature when the topic raises our ire.
...dominant, perhaps sexist was apt. But remove them from their turf and it might be better to apply a different descriptor.
I often did. :^o
They taught "Womens Studies".
I am going to be in big trouble for this - or was it "Phys. Ed"?
whereas some of the MMFA faithful might frame me as an angry feminist, whereas I have written for the major feminist mags, I sometimes provoke feminists when I opine. I've even had readers (female and feminist) threaten me. So, I've learned that some feminists are locked and loaded. Therefore, it's interesting when some of the MMFA readership frame me as sexist, loony, and far left. There are women far to the left of me who frame me as a "Protector of Patriarchy." And yes, PoP is a quote.
To put it kindly, I would consider anyone far to the left of you to be "outside the mainstream".
You're close - it was literary critical theory. I had it twice, from two women at two different universities, and I can tell you that thinking back on it, I am not entirely unreceptive to the term "feminazi."
I did take a women's studies class as well, and the woman who taught it was fantastic. As were almost all of my other female professors. (In fact, I had many more bad male professors than female.)
According to Limbaugh, there are only 25-30 actual feminazis in the United States. You may have been exposed to two of them. Wow.
I will go look for ivory-billed woodpeckers now...
From Wik: The term racism is usually applied to the dominant group in a society, because it is that group which has the means to oppress others.
The term can also apply to any individual or group, regardless of social status or dominance.
Many terms and words can evolve over time in the vernacular and their meaning either becomes more or less broad......and perhaps this is the case with "racism".
But I believe it is widely accepted that anyone who exhibits behavior defined as such is deserving of the label.
I have no quarrel with your post. You were using an acceptable definition of the word in my view.
ANOTHER AMERICAN?
I thought you were healed and cleansed yesterday? I am disappointed in you. And now your name calling again and spelling half of you words wrong.
“Just dissapointed. You abviously are sexist.”
Out of those six words you posted, half of them are spelled wrong. Give me your address and I’ll send you some free software that corrects what you type in real time.
See Ya Later
My Mac is fine, no penis virus here. We can say that word today, but not before Bill & Monica.
I too can see all the Hate-filled Self-destruction under way by the R's. They are so desperate right now. Reminds me of the ABC show "Desperate Housewives."
It's the Neocons against the True Conservatives. Unless they can settle their squabbling they are history.
I salute all those Senators and Congressmen who have broken ranks with George and his Neocons. They are brave and honest Republicans. Even Conservative Pundits have distanced themselves from Bush.
The War in Iraq is the final straw that broke the GOP's back.
He has an interesting point. If Obama is a smoker, it will be interesting to see how it is played up by people in the media.
Of course, the posts look like they are mostly attacks on Limbaugh's personal character and not what he said.
You do? Does that mean you also wonder what's in Barak Obama's pants?
...and quip like Dorothy Parker.
So, when I imagine you, I imagine a feathery and beaky Dorothy Parker, which is a weird image, but I adore you nevertheless.
I like you, too.
4 dozen Oxy-cotin pills and a dozen Viagra pills and a cell phone with a dedicated line to RNC to find out the slander of the day.
And a picture of Barak Obama...
that rush has in his pants- might it be the one of barack in his swimsuit?
anyone who thinks rush is funny and not hateful must share his unrelenting derision of "Libruls".
i love how rush is always telling me what i think and what my underlying motives are.
he is always "translating" those "Librul" words and actions for his audience. "see folks, this is what they want you to believe, this is what is REALLY going on.."
he says this crap every day.
and btw- is he a political commentator, or a 'funny' satirist?
in the case he is a satirist, doesn't that mean his humor is intended to portray a specific perspective on the subject of the satire?
it sure would be nice sometime to hear any conservative commentator on the radio or tv speak about the ideas a person has, and less about why their flaws make the ideas irrelevant.
we are supposed to listen to george as if it is the word of god, despite his numerous past failures, and moral weaknesses.
one more thing. who is rush to say that the opposition is godless? last i checked, who is he to say that half the country disdains committed relationships? wouldn't opposition to gay marriage be opposition to committed relationships?
i think rush is funny too. not the 'jokes' he tells, but the hypocritical joke he is.
Rush ain't joking when he tells his audience that liberals (loosely defined as people who doesn't subscribe to his lunacy) are bad people. I've heard him say it. I didn't even know I was liberal, let alone a bad person, until I heard Rush.
And in his other pocket he has a cell phone programmed with links to the White House Talking Points of The Day. Also used to get exclusive one on one interviews for promoting the Bush Agenda.
In his back pocket he has the latest ideas from the Fox News Assignment Editors on how to attack Obama, Hillary and other people they are scared to death of. That’s where he found the “Dirty Little Smoking Secret.”
To try out his Viagra pills, he has a list of Ladies of the Night Prospects. But most of them say Noooo Waaay Renay!
I feel sorry for some of the posters here who try to carry the water for this horrible god awful excuse for a man.
LimpBrain damages his own cause and posters only hurt themselves when they defend him.
Obama smoking cigarettes is more sexy than Limbaugh's fat ass.
More than you got, chump, and he doesn't need little blue pills to get it.
Sheriff Bart: Hey! Where da white women at?
...
Sheriff Bart: [on grandstand to the townspeople] Excuse me while I whip this out. [reaches into waistline as crowd gasps and screams; Bart pulls out paper, they sigh with relief]
Rush has been photographed smoking big fat cigars and has been caught with viagra. Mirror meet your fat friend.
and going in about one hundred different directions with it.
And seriously, when was the last time anyone remembers hollywood trying to make smoking look cool?
what the hell are you talking about, Rush?
You really walked into that one. Obama's got something you'll never have in your pants. Not to mention a brain instead of a fat ugly mouth spouting a lot of hot air!!!
C'mon, Rush you go first!!!!!!
Most likely something that doesn't need Viagra,unlike in Mr. Limpbaugh's recent history!
What's He Got In His Pants?...
"Most likely something that doesn't need Viagra,unlike in Mr. Limpbaugh's recent history!"
That said it all, short and sweet. Should have been the first, instead of 160th. It made all the others, including mine, unnecessary.
Bravo.