O'Donnell falsely reported Bush's health plan provides "tax credits"
On the January 24 edition of MSNBC News Live, host Norah O'Donnell falsely claimed that President Bush's health care proposal "is tax credits." In fact, Bush did not propose a "tax credit" but, rather, as the White House's fact sheet on the proposal states, "A Standard [Tax] Deduction For Health Insurance." Tax credits and tax deductions are different, as the Internal Revenue Service explains as part of its "Understanding Taxes" education program: "A tax deduction reduces income subject to tax," while a "tax credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction in the tax liability." Critics of the president's plan have argued that a credit would more effectively help those who cannot afford health insurance because credits are worth more to those who earn less.
For example, a taxpayer who owes a 15 percent tax on $20,000 in taxable income would owe $3,000 in taxes. If she received a $3,000 tax deduction, that would reduce her taxable income to $17,000, and she would instead owe $2,550 -- $450 less -- in taxes. But if she received a $3,000 tax credit, it would reduce her tax bill to zero. Also, as a percentage of taxable income, tax credits are worth more to those with less taxable income, while, as The Washington Post pointed out on January 25, tax deductions are worth more to the affluent: "Wealthier families who benefit from the deduction would get a much greater value than less-affluent families. The $15,000 deduction would be worth $5,250 to a family taxed at 35 percent but only $1,500 to one taxed in the 10 percent bracket."
Some have criticized Bush for proposing a deduction rather than a credit, which, critics argue, would be more effective at helping those with lower incomes. As Tax Policy Center director Len Burman, Brookings Institution senior fellow Jason Furman, and Urban Institute principal research associate Roberton Williams stated in a January 23 report examining Bush's proposal:
However, as under current law, the subsidy will be more valuable for high-income people than for those with lower incomes who most need help. In fact, low-income households with no income tax liability would get virtually no help, as is true under the current structure. These limitations could easily be addressed by converting the proposed standard deduction into a flat credit or even a sliding-scale credit that is larger for low-income families.
The report commented that, "[d]espite its limitations, the proposal marks an encouraging departure from current policies that underprovide incentives to purchase insurance and encourage families to be over-insured and underpaid." It concluded: "Adoption of a substantially revised and expanded version of the proposal could increase insurance coverage and help stem the rapid rise in American expenditures on health care."
O'Donnell's guest, Washington Post staff writer Anne E. Kornblut responded by noting that "[t]here are a variety of complaints" against the plan. She added, "I think what's going to be tricky as we talk about this debate is that the devil is going to be in the details."
From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the January 25 edition of MSNBC News Live:
KORNBLUT: He [Bush] is pitching a proposal that they say would lower overall health care costs, in which, any health care pro -- any health care plan -- excuse me -- that is over $15,000 would be taxed. The amount over $15,000 would be treated like taxable income and taxed. The idea there is to create an incentive for people to seek out less expensive health care and thus bring down the entire market.
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O'DONNELL: And, Anne, as far as the president's plan, which is tax credits, and the Democrats' plan, which is essentially expending with the -- expanding with federal government coverage -- I mean, that's just sort of the simple difference in the plans -- but the Democrats say the president's plan for tax cuts is pretty much dead on arrival, right?
KORNBLUT: Oh, absolutely. There are a variety of complaints: that it would punish people who choose very elaborate plans; that it could reduce the money that's spent in hospitals -- there's any sort of number of criticism the Democrats have already unloaded on it. I think what's going to be tricky as we talk about this debate is that the devil's going to be in the details.















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The headline we won't see:
Bush: the problem is that some people have good health insurance coverage and we have to do something about that.
Income tax deductions mean little to low income people who don't pay much in taxes, and they won't enable them to buy insurance or to pay for the good preventive primary care that could reduce huge medical problems and costs later on. That is, unless we're willing to believe that some cost savings for insurance companies and employers under this plan will somehow "trickle down" to lower income or middle income people without insurance. Yeah, sure.
And the plan is complicated enough that it could lead some reporters to fall back on administration spin as the easy way to report it and meet a deadline.Large bold font unintentional.
If the exemption levels don't rise as fast as the health care system's value does, then this will be a trap for more and more middle class workers each year.
I don't know exact numbers for where I'm at on my personal plan, but a $7500 deduction isn't much for coverage that would easily run 500-600 a month, privately.
The guaranteed winners here are the wealthy elite who can afford to buy their own plans, yet don't enjoy a fat deduction for it. We're already protecting them enough with Bushs tax cut packages that finanace these record federal deficits on the next five generations.
It can't pass, but no thanks, anyway....I already gave at the office. Quit pandering for handouts, GOPers.
what i mean is while the 7500 dollars currenly does cover many plans, there isnt much room for protection against inflation, if health care costs rise faster than exemption levels in this plan...not sure that was clear
Exactly.
This is an idiotic plan from an idiotic President. Who does he think he's fooling, other than the drooling 28% who still support him?
What Karl Rove forgot to tell the Moron-in-Chief is that the cost of Health Insurance is not necessarily related to the benefits, as in his "Gold Plated" reference. Many people in high-risk professions pay higher premiums, as well as people in high-risk groups, or with pre-existing conditions, or just old age. This plan potentially raises taxes on all those people if their employers provide the coverage (like fire fighters and police officers). And this from a President who insists that not giving tax cuts to billionaires will hurt the economy? What an idiot.
He also ignores the fact pointed out above, that a lot of the people who can't afford insurance still won't be able to afford it, since they pay little or no taxes anyway. What a moron.
<>The most hilarious part is listening to Pig-Man Limbaugh try to defend this Middle Class tax increase, especially after he swore he wouldn't carry water for the GOP any more.This is the same approach as the prescription drug plan.
It helps some people in certain situations.
It is horribly complicated.
Protects health care industry profits.
Doesn't deal the REAL issue - health care costs spiraling out of control.
There's a reason that the number of IRS forms has increased from 224 in 2000 to 249 in 2004. The number of pages of instructions on the 1040 has gone from 118 to 128. The "average time to complete" has gone from 68 hours 7 minutes to 68 hours 53 minutes. The IRS operating costs have gone up from $8.26B to $9.95B. H&R Block revenues have gone up from $739M in 1996 to $2B in 2004. The size of the tax code has gone from 40,000 pages to over 65,000 pages in the last six years.
And this is our "conservative" President who wants to get rid of big government, regulation, and simplify things for the people.
Mistaking deductions for credits leads me to believe Ms. O'Donnell has never had to worry about doing her own taxes.
Sadly, it doesn't really matter what O'Donnell says anyways. The smarter of us know that it came from Bush's mouth and therefore is crap; the kool-aid drinkers don't care if it helps them or not.
My thoughts exactly; Bush proposed it and Rush Limbaugh supports it; that's all I need to know.
The Bush plan (sounds odd, don't it) is not much help if you pay for healthcare directly out of pocket, as I do. That $7,500 deduction from my income would pay for a small portion of the cost, which is nice, but why I should have to pay ANYTHING is the real question.
Why should the burden of insuring against catastrophic illness fall in the lap of the citizen at large? Moreover, I am not just paying for myself, but for the uninsured. How's that for a crooked formula.
Also, we don't have "healthcare" in America. We have sickness care.
Case in point: my insurance company has no problem doling out $50,000 for a fat person who needs heart bypass surgery or volunteers for intestinal reduction surgery; as for my "extravagant" health club dues of $300 for 15 months, that's not covered. Well, if they pay for healthcare, then what is it about joining a health club that is contrary to that supposed mission statement?
It makes little sense to wait till someone is sick THEN pay verses the most basic preventative medicine on Earth, staying active.