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Fox defense of Gibson's report on Obama smear missed mark

January 29, 2007 12:49 pm ET

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SUMMARY: According to an ABCNews.com report, Fox News vice president Bill Shine defended John Gibson's reporting on the discredited accusation that Sen. Barack Obama attended a madrassa in his youth. But a statement from Shine, as quoted by the ABCNews.com report, never addressed Gibson's charges that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was behind the smear.

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According to a January 25 ABCNews.com report, Fox News senior vice president of programming Bill Shine defended Fox News host John Gibson's reporting on an article posted on the website InsightMag.com claiming that "researchers connected to" Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) disclosed that Obama "spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia." Shine stated that "when John Gibson focused on the item, he, like other news outlets, presented Senator Obama's statement on the subject. We consider the matter closed and believe the senator feels the same way." But in the portion of the statement quoted in the ABCNews.com article, Shine did not mention other comments by Gibson: While acknowledging near the end of his show that it "[d]oesn't seem" that "Hillary's fingerprints [are] on the story," Gibson had said earlier in the program that "[t]he New York senator has reportedly outed Obama's madrassa past." Gibson also remarked, "[L]ook at what some anti-Obama Democrats are doing to her political rival now."

The ABCNews.com article noted that "Obama denied that the story was true, and Clinton denied that she was spreading the story." The article further noted that "ABC and other media outlets including CNN went to the school" Obama attended as a child and "debunked" the charge. Shine's statement in the article also "acknowledged that 'the hosts of "Fox & Friends" gave too much credence to the Insight magazine report and spent far too long discussing its premise on the air. Those remarks, however, were clarified on the next "Fox & Friends" program.' "

In one of the two segments he dedicated to the story, Gibson read a statement from Obama's office that said: "The idea that Senator Barack Obama attended some radical Islamic school is completely ludicrous. Senator Obama is a committed Christian and attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago." Shine's statement cited the fact that Gibson read the Obama statement as part of his conclusion that the "matter [is] closed." But the statement as quoted by the ABCNews.com article never addressed Gibson's charges that Clinton "has reportedly outed Obama's madrassa past." In addition, Gibson told Republican strategist Terry Holt: "Now, we have heard about dirty politics before. Republicans aren't involved in this one." Holt responded: "This was either a despicable act by an absolutely ruthless Clinton political machine -- we know that they are capable of doing this. But I also thought, you know, it wasn't directly linked to Hillary Clinton."

Further, despite reading a copy of Obama's statement, Gibson continued to parrot the InsightMag.com report and suggest that there may have been truth to the report's claim that Obama attended a madrassa. In the segment with Holt, Gibson said: "I'm going to put it up on the screen: Barack's madrassa past." He later referred to the story as "the madrassa bomb dropped on Barack Obama." In his "My Word" segment, Gibson said: "Americans have a visceral reaction to the word 'madrassa.' In our world, a madrassa's where zealots train your Muslim kids to hate America, to hate the West, and to be killers. Saying Obama attended a madrassa is tying Obama's name to terrorism, and that is real political hardball in action, especially when Obama himself said in his own book that he attended a predominantly Muslim school as a youngster in Indonesia." Unlike Fox & Friends First, Gibson has not addressed the smear since his January 19 program.

Finally, according to the ABCNews.com article, Shine's statement said that because Gibson read Obama's statement and Fox & Friends First issued a clarification on the air, Fox "consider[s] the matter closed and believe[s] the senator feels the same way." But in a January 22 report on CNN's The Situation Room, media critic Howard Kurtz reported that Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told him that Gibbs "didn't think much" of the clarification on the January 22 edition of Fox & Friends First, which was reiterated on the same day's edition of Fox & Friends. Moreover, in a memo released on January 24 and picked up by National Journal's The Hotline, Obama's office called the reports "malicious, irresponsible charges."

From the January 22 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First:

DOOCY: One other thing. We want to clarify something: On Friday of last week, we did the story from the Insight magazine where we talked about how they were quoting that Barack Obama, when he was a child growing up in Indonesia, had attended a madrassa. Well, Mr. Obama's people called and they said that that is absolutely false. They said the idea that Barack Obama went to a radical Muslim school is completely ridiculous. In his book it does say that he went to a mostly Muslim school but not to a madrassa.

KILMEADE: And the reason why -- because the madrassa -- really, when that term went out there, and the Wahabbiism that was speculated in the article, really started taking root in Saudi Arabia and around there after the fall of the shah and then all of a sudden that starts rampaging across the Arab world, and we're dealing with that -- the radical Islam now. But they wanted to make it clear they had nothing to do -- he had nothing to do with going to any radical Islamic school, and he was very angry about it.

[...]

KILMEADE: And also, just to add to that. The Clinton camp said they said an unnamed Clinton source says they don't think America is ready to elect a Muslim candidate. Clinton camp says that has nothing to do with us. We did not have anything to do with that story.

From the January 22 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

KURTZ: But as we now know, there is no madrassa past. Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, who called Fox's broadcasting of the madrassa tale "appallingly irresponsible," says he didn't think much of a clarification carried this morning on the program Fox & Friends.

Fox News executive Bill Shine says some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.

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    • Author by njguy93 (January 29, 2007 12:59 pm ET)
         

      These people are disgusting pigs.  Pun intended.  Gibson trying to make excuses is sad.  Then he starts changing his story about how madrassa is an ambigous term and thats why it angered many people.  His fellow FAUX whore Brian "Leslie Hochsenwader" Kilmeade was doing the same.  I see Jabba the Hut or somebody gave them the talking points.  These hypocrites were calling for Dan Rather's head on a platter after he did a story that was TRUE, except for one small memo which DID NOT EVEN AFFECT the story one way or the other.  These people are slimeballs and they know it.  Thats why they start defending their slimy actions even more when they are called out on it.  When someone is caught red-handed doing something, many times they often make even more excuses and justify their atrocious and odious actions even more.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2007 1:26 pm ET)
           

        I'm glad you brought up Dan Rather.  Once again, we see a huge double standard at work here.  Fox "News" lies and omits facts every day, regularly repeating stories from Drudge, the Moonie Times and other sources that are openly biased.  Where are all those "truth detectors" who crucified Dan Rather?  The answer is simple;  Rather was set up and driven out by the flying monkeys because he was revealing a story which could hurt Puddinhead George's re-election.  He was targeted for termination.

        Fox "News" is an absolute joke. 

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    • Author by mb (January 29, 2007 12:59 pm ET)
         

      Correct me if I am wrong but isnt any school in the muslim world called a madrassa?  Doent it mean place of learning?  I also believe the smear might have worked several years ago, but sites such as this one are finally making a difference.  Kilmeade continues with the Clinton smears and unnamed sources.  

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 29, 2007 1:10 pm ET)
         

      I don't see any mention by FOX that CNN investigated the allegation that Barak Obama attended a madrassa by actually going to Indonesia and that CNN debunked the story as entirely false. I don't see where FOX has in any way affirmatively ackonwledged that the madrassa story is indeed false. On the other hand I do continually hear FOX personalities such as Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly contend that Democrats perpetually lie. True, FOX is reporting that Obama has denied the story and that Hillary Clinton has denied having any part in the false allegations. But in the context of the entire tone of FOX reporting about Democrats the subtext is always that Democrats are not worthy of belief. Accordingly, in its own subtle way FOX is leaving the door open for its viewers to conclude that the madrassa stroy could actually be true. And the longer FOX keeps the story alive the more likely some of its viewers will conclude the madrassa claims are true because they have been indoctrinated to believe the worst, no matter how outrageous or implausible, about Democrats.

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    • Author by steeve (January 29, 2007 1:19 pm ET)
         

      The media is never wrong.

      Anyone who thinks the media is wrong on an issue, rest assured.  Media members will gather to discuss the issue, and conclude that the media wasn't wrong.

      For further reports on how the media is never wrong, tune in to the media.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (January 29, 2007 4:50 pm ET)
         

      It looks to me that MMFA is criticizing  ABCNews.com for leaving out part of Shine's comments.  

      I wonder how many of you realize that Insight and Fox are not making the allegations, they are simply reporting what Insight Magazine wrote. 

      So who is MMFA up in arms about?  ABC or Fox?  Let me guess...

      Also, if you were in Clinton's campaign would you deny it? (Gee? I think I would.)  the Insight people are standing on their reporting but haven't revealed the sources. They are using unnamed sources just as they mentioned that Bob Woodward does regularly. Are they making it up? Who knows.

      Insight says it let the Obama camp know of its article beforehand and they had no comment until it was aired.  

      I'd think many of you would be thankful that Insight and Fox brought this to light right now and allowed Obama to answer this charge rather than wait for an "October Suprise" supposedly by the people associated with Clinton campaign.  

      Oh well, even though it got started early, it looks to me like the Democrats will have an interesting primary campaign.  I think We'll  all need flowcharts to follow all the allegations, rebuttals, "he said she said" counter chargers, let alone attacks on various news media. Hopefully it'll give us enough time to find out about each candiate.

       

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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (January 29, 2007 5:52 pm ET)
           

        "I wonder how many of you realize that Insight and Fox are not making the allegations, they are simply reporting what Insight Magazine wrote."

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        Insight is only reporting what Insight wrote?

        What are you smoking? 

        And yes, Insight made the allegations.

        The lying allegations. 

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      • Author by west1 (January 30, 2007 12:07 am ET)
           

        Defending Insight?   It provides news from anonymous sources by anonymous writers.  If you depend on this as a source of news, you are only fooling yourself.  Not surprisingly, Fox News used it as a source and got caught.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (January 30, 2007 12:58 am ET)
           

        "It looks to me that MMFA is criticizing  ABCNews.com for leaving out part of Shine's comments.  

        in arms about?  ABC or Fox?  Let me guess..." (Anutteramerican)

        No, nutter- MMFA is crediting ABC as its source for a statement by Shinola. A statement that doesn't address an important part of the subject that the Fox-hole is commenting on.

        So, yes, the criticism is directed at Fox (shine) for weaseling on his remarks, not at ABC for reporting the weaselry.

        See what years of Fox nooz does to your reading comprehension?

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    • Author by corkcol6005 (January 30, 2007 4:32 am ET)
         

      John Gibson is always stretching the truth when it comes to Democrats.  Outside of Rush Limbaugh, I don't think there is a more evil person in broadcasting than Fox News' John Gibson.

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