CNN's Dobbs falsely claimed Pelosi could use Hastert's jet to fly nonstop to California
SUMMARY: In a report on the use of a military plane to fly
the House speaker, CNN's Lou Dobbs falsely claimed that Nancy Pelosi can
travel nonstop from Washington to California, where her
home district is located, "in the plane that [Dennis] Hastert was
using." In fact, according to reports,
the jet Hastert used did
not have the fuel capacity to make nonstop, cross-country trips.
During a February 5 report on the use of a military aircraft to fly House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), CNN host Lou Dobbs falsely claimed that the military jet former House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) used for domestic travel has the capacity to fly Pelosi nonstop to her district in California. Roll Call reported (subscription required) on February 5 that the plane Hastert used "needs to refuel every 2,000 miles and could not make the nonstop haul to California." Roll Call then quoted a Pelosi aide as saying, "The Air Force determined that [Pelosi's] safety would be best ensured by using a plane that has the fuel capacity to go coast-to-coast." On February 6, The Washington Post also reported that the plane Hastert "traveled in was too small to make it to California without refueling."
Dobbs made his claim on the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, following a misleading report by CNN correspondent Lisa Sylvester on the recent inquiries by Pelosi's staff and the Office of the Sergeant at Arms about the guidelines for the speaker's use of a military aircraft for domestic travel. Though Sylvester quoted from the Roll Call article reporting that the Defense Department would provide Pelosi with a bigger jet so she could fly nonstop to her district, Sylvester reported only that Hastert's jet was "smaller." She did not mention that it could not make cross-country trips without refueling.
Additionally, the CNN report included, and did not correct, a misleading statement by Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC) that Pelosi was "asking for Air Force One-like accommodations" that had "never been afforded to any member of Congress in our nation's history." In fact, as previously noted, Pelosi's staff and the Office of the Sergeant at Arms inquired about the guidelines for the speaker's use of a military aircraft for domestic travel and a Pelosi aide said that the Air Force determined that Pelosi should use a plane with greater fuel capacity for safety reasons, as Roll Call reported. CNN provided no support for McHenry's claim that Pelosi was "asking for Air Force One-like accommodations." Roll Call quoted a Pelosi aide as saying, "All we're asking for is what Hastert had."
From the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:
DOBBS: Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, can now fly in style at your expense. Speaker Pelosi has been granted authorization to make use of military aircraft whenever she sees fit.
Lisa Sylvester reports.
[begin video clip]
SYLVESTER: It's clear skies for Nancy Pelosi. The Pentagon is providing the House speaker with an Air Force plane large enough to accommodate her staff, family, supporters, and members of the California delegation when she travels around the country.
Not everyone is happy with the Democrats' jet-setting style, paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
DAVID KEENE, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: It's better than flying first-class on United or American. This gives her the opportunity to use the plane as a conference area, where she can get members of her delegation together and plot strategy or politics or talk about legislation, do whatever she wants.
SYLVESTER: Since 9-11, the House speaker has been authorized to fly on a military aircraft for security reasons. The position ranks right behind the vice president in the line of succession.
But according to reports, Speaker Pelosi has pressed the Pentagon for more than her predecessor Dennis Hastert enjoyed. Pelosi wants routine access to a larger plane. It includes 42 business class seats, a fully-enclosed state room, an entertainment center, a private bed, state-of-the-art communications system, and a crew of 16.
Hastert, who only had to travel to Illinois, used a smaller jet that seats 12 and has five crew members and none of the amenities.
McHENRY: What I disagree with is a special privilege and a special right given to the speaker of the House that has never been afforded to any member of Congress in our nation's history. In essence, asking for Air Force One-like accommodations. But instead of being called Air Force One, we can call it Pelosi One.
SYLVESTER: Pelosi's office did not return our calls, but her spokesperson told the Roll Call newspaper that the speaker wanted a plane that she could fly nonstop, given the busier congressional schedule. And the Air Force determined, quote, "Pelosi's safety would be best ensured by using a plane that has the fuel capacity to go coast-to-coast."
[end video clip]
SYLVESTER: According to reports, Speaker Pelosi requested the use of a military plane to attend a retreat in Williamsburg, Virginia, last week. That's 150 miles or a two-hour drive from Washington, D.C. That request, by all accounts, was denied.
Representative Patrick McHenry says if Pelosi is really concerned about global warming, maybe she should have considered the same mode of transportation that her colleagues took to attend that retreat, a bus -- Lou.
DOBBS: Lisa, let me see if I've got this right. She wants a plane that accommodates 42 people, private stateroom -- and the reason is because she wants to be able to go nonstop from Washington to the West Coast? My goodness, she could have done that in Hastert's -- in the plane that Hastert was using.
SYLVESTER: That's exactly correct, Lou. You've got that. It would be 42 people, and clearly she won't be the only one on this plane. She wants to have members of the congressional delegation. And her critics will say, look, this is a very nice perk that she can share with her colleagues and use as leverage, should she need to.
DOBBS: Well, it's really a fascinating thing: 42. She could take a circus with her, for crying out loud. All right, thank you very much, Lisa Sylvester.















Dobbs is so near sighted, while he thinks he's stating something intelligent. If he were really upset with the use of our tax dollars, why not complain about Hasterts plane in the first place.
As even a casual viewer can attest, Lou is enamoured with all forms of the word fact.
Now that we know the facts, I wonder when he'll alter his tirade?
I see in the screenshot that accompanies the item a capture that has Mr. Murtha behind Ms. Pelosi...
If a snapshot can show such things, then I think that capture shows Mr. Murtha protective and supportive of Ms. Pelosi... (I know it is so, but only imaginatively... and only in that pic... but pictures work that way sometimes, and Mr. Murtha seems that type, always)...
I don't concern myself much about the attacks on Ms. Pelosi... she has a faithful guard.
This whole thing about Iraq (the main thing of the American People's business), it now moves to the House...
I had been not happy that the most Faithful was not made Majority Leader...
So what.
We walk always the hazard and danger position... we walk always point (let the others cower... they'll find their nerve, later, and in safety).
We're going Home, to the House... the Speaker has a U.S. Marine on point, and in command, of the Committee...
She has a good guard... we have a good guard.
I like the picture of Mr. Murtha behind Ms. Pelosi.
Semper Fidelis makes me feel good.
Think you'll draw funds from the U.S. Treasury, in the name of sacrificed Marines?
Think again.
And another lie is born. This reminds me of the $200 hair cut story about Clinton, which had him holding up airport traffic while he got his hair cut. While it's true he got a haircut, the only plane he held up was the White House press corps plane.
Willie got a trim every chance he had, and a lot of them were sub-par.
I used to think Dobbs was a smart finantial guy. then he started drink White House juice and lost his credibility ( with me, anyways ). His constant hammering of the immigration problems is very tiring, specially when he himself offers no solutions.
*WHO CARES! LET HER USE THE JET*
She is going to be the best speaker yet.
Plus there is no such thing as man-made global warming.
We had global cooling from 1940-1970 and everyone was going crazy, now we are on a warming cycle. See:
[link to www.canadafreepress.com] for reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
Do you ever tire of displaying nothing but abject ignorance?
did you even read the article?
So hundreds of scientists and academics publish the results of decades of research and it rolls right off your back, but one Canadian with questionable credentials is enough to convince you there is no man-made global warming?
I read it, and I also read about Ball. He is paid by the gas & oil industry, and is considered an embarrassment by the professional community as mentioned by my cousin (double-doctorate, tropical rain forest research, full professor, yadda.) He and his colleagues are not paid by any environmental groups. His grants do not come from enviro groups with an agenda.
Dr. Ball's work is a direct result of his earnings from big oil. Maybe you would want to look that up. Maybe he was one of the many scientists offered $10,000 by big oil to refute the consensus findings on global warming (how cheap.) Maybe he truly believes what he writes, but you have to understand that he is not well respected by his peers.
I recently had a discussion with a wealthy man who argued that man-made global warming was a myth. He said "look at all of the so-called scientists who were wrong throughout history." I said "look at all of the scientists who were correct, and were persecuted by the religious governments. -- BTW, this guy used to work for ExxonMobil. Go figure... try arguing with a neocon indoctrinated into the largest profit business in the world.
This guy also claimed that if he sold his SUV for a smaller car it wouldn't help anyway. I told him not to vote since it would not matter anyway. My point was lost on this idiot.
you make good points except for the last one. his point about one person not making a difference by not owning an suv is a good one. we learned about this in basic econ, you need government intervention in order to force EVERYONE to drive enviro-friendly vehicles. even if all of san fran stopped polluting it won't make a difference in the big picture unless everyone is forced to stop. but that wont happen as long as you have big oil keeping the electric car down and the govt in their pockets.
You are a really odd egg...
whys that
But Col Roy- if one person can't make a difference, but everybody can..
Then if everybody except one person id doing something, then that person does it, resulting in everybody doing it, hasn't one person made a difference?
Reading suggestion: Horton Hears a Who
If security is a real concern...then I don't have a problem with our top leaders flying in military aircraft.
I do have a problem if Hastert was flying home "nearly every weekend" while congress was in session...his job is in DC...and there is no excuse for excessive trips home on the weekends at our expense.
On Pelosi...if she needs a plane for security reasons...give her one. However, I don't know what type of military aircraft are available...but there are many mid-sized jets...capable of hauling 8-12 passengers...with the fuel capacity and range to fly coast to coast.
Considering that Congress only met for about what? 80 to 90 days all of last year, at least he wasn't going home all the time. What I find interesting about all this is that no one brings up that it was the Sergeant at Arms who made the initial inquiry when he learned that Pelosi's jet was having to refuel multiple times while leap-frogging across the country. When it was then decided that Hasert's jet (it had to have be a C-130 to accomodate him, haha) wasn't up to par for a cross-country trip, a larger jet was considered. Then... Pelosi's staff got involved and made inquiries to see if other people can use the jet. Pelosi and her staff thought it would be a waste of tax-payers money to have a large jet ferry only her and a couple of staffers to and from the west coast.It's making a mountain out of a pit.
Dulles [IAD] to SFO is about 2400 miles.
Most commercial regional jets -- and I've flown on my share, and they are 'toy planes' and pretty much suck for anything over an hour -- only have a range of about 1800 miles.
Lease a Cessna Citation X (or buy one for $15-20 million) instead. They are fast, economical and have low maintainence costs. It can easily get about 10 people, coast to coast, at Mach 0.82 -- which is fast.