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Politico's Allen on Clinton speech: "[Y]ou think President Bush doesn't want to be out of [Iraq by 2009]? Hull-oh."

February 06, 2007 6:15 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck, Mike Allen asked of Iraq, "[Y]ou think President Bush doesn't want to be out of there? Hull-oh. Who still wants to be in Iraq in 2009? It's not like they're choosing it." However, at an August 2006 press conference, Bush responded to a reporter's question about Iraq by saying, "We're not leaving, so long as I'm the president." Bush's term ends January 20, 2009.

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On the February 5 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck, Mike Allen, chief political writer for The Politico, discussed a February 2 speech by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) at the Democratic National Committee's winter meeting in which she vowed to "end this war" in Iraq if she becomes president in 2009. Allen said: "But what's fascinating about Senator Clinton's position is, you think President Bush doesn't want to be out of there? Hull-oh. Who still wants to be in Iraq in 2009? It's not like they're choosing it." Contrary to Allen's claim that Bush is not "choosing" to be in Iraq in 2009, Bush himself has made it clear that he regards U.S. policy in Iraq to be his decision, referring to himself as "the decider" and "the decision-maker." And Bush has said that the U.S. will remain in Iraq "so long as [he's] the president." Bush's term ends January 20, 2009.

Allen's statement recalled National Public Radio national correspondent Mara Liasson's assertion that personnel shifts in the Bush administration showed that Bush is "trying to take control of his Iraq policy, and he's going to put his own imprint on it."

Contrary to Allen's claim that the administration is not "choosing " to be in Iraq in 2009, Bush as recently as January 26 referred to himself as "the decision-maker" on matters involving Iraq. Moreover, during an August 21, 2006, press conference, Bush was asked if it was time for a "new strategy" in Iraq. Bush responded: "We're not leaving, so long as I'm the president." Bush's answer, in part:

The strategy is to help the Iraqi people achieve their objectives and their dreams, which is a democratic society. That's the strategy. The tactics -- now, either you say, yes, it's important we stay there and get it done, or we leave. We're not leaving, so long as I'm the president. That would be a huge mistake. It would send an unbelievably terrible signal to reformers across the region. It would say we've abandoned our desire to change the conditions that create terror. It would give the terrorists a safe haven from which to launch attacks. It would embolden Iran. It would embolden extremists.

No, we're not leaving.

Members of Bush's own party have balked at his definitive calls for a long-term commitment in Iraq. On January 30, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) said Bush is not the "sole decider."

At the end of the discussion, host Glenn Beck referred to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R), who announced plans to file a "statement of candidacy" for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, as "the candidate for war." Allen answered that "[t]here's no question" that Giuliani is "the candidate for strength." As Media Matters for America has repeatedly noted, the media continue to perpetuate the notion that Giuliani is "America's Mayor" and the "hero of 9/11."

From the February 5 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: Joining me now is Mike Allen, he's chief political correspondent for The Politico.

Mike, what is -- what is her position here on the war? Is Hillary for it or against it?

ALLEN: Well, you can be all over the map. You can be both, Glenn. I think what Senator Clinton is trying to do is reassure people in her party that she may have been for it, but now she's against it.

BECK: Did she see the last election? That really didn't work.

ALLEN: Well, but Glenn, look at the news. Look at what's on your air. It's clear that the American people, public opinion has changed dramatically because the facts have changed dramatically.

But what's fascinating about Senator Clinton's position is, you think President Bush doesn't want to be out of there? Hull-oh. Who still wants to be in Iraq in 2009? It's not like they're choosing it.

What Senator Clinton has not done is say how exactly she would do this. But she's made it clear where her heart is. And Glenn, let's be fair. That's very, very, very important in this contest.

The Associated Press just did a very interesting story, combining their forces from Iowa and New Hampshire, talking about how Iraq is the No. 1 issue. And I can tell you, there's not a lot of call for more troops after the surge, a post-surge surge.

[...]

BECK: I've got to tell you, if you pulled the troops out, just put them on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf because they will be going back in.

You know, it's really funny because Hillary is positioning herself, really, I think, as a peace candidate. And the Democrats, they did this in '72. Very bad idea. They're positioning themselves as a peace candidate. They'll have trouble if there's war, which there's going to be.

On the flip side, you have Rudy Giuliani. If there's peace, conservatives are not going to swallow him. But I'll tell you, he'll be the candidate for war. He's in a much better position, and he's announced today that he is going to run.

ALLEN: Right, Glenn. You don't want to be the candidate for war, but you do want to be the candidate for strength. There's no question that Mayor Giuliani is that.

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    • Author by njguy93 (February 06, 2007 6:39 pm ET)
         

      Mike Allen has been in the tank for George Bush for a while now.  He wrote that Time column back in June or sometime around there that was basically nothing but G.O.P. talking points.  He also talks like he has tourette's syndrome.  I hope he doesn't.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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    • Author by mefirst (February 06, 2007 6:56 pm ET)
         

      hull-oh? i just heard bush yesterday say that we cannot set a date to pull out. which means the present government will do exactly what it has done to stabilize the country, nothing, so we cannot pull out. hull-oh?

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    • Author by solon (February 06, 2007 7:42 pm ET)
         

      He said we wont leave Iraq while he is president HELLOOOOOOO

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (February 07, 2007 12:40 am ET)
           

        Driving home from work yesterday, I turned on an Evangelical Christian radio show I love, and they have a new promo.

        Corny patriotic music swelling, and the announcer assuring us that the station is "loving our country, and supporting our troops, until they come home victorious".

        Which sort of had two meanings to my ol' cynical ears-

        You young people serving your country will stay there until you achiieve a result that your leaders can't even define.

        and

        just like the Vietnam vets, we'll stop digging you so much once you're back.

        But that's just me, maybe I'm not touchy-feely happy talk enough for the real Americans.

         

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        • Author by redking75687 (February 07, 2007 1:33 am ET)
             

          To them, it's a real Crusade against Islam. Their idea of victory is Jesus magically showing up and gorily genociding all non-believers. The LeHaye "End of Days" cult is all based around US troops staying in Iraq and killing the infidel until the "Rapture" occurs. The Pentagon is even pairing up with far-right "Christian" youth groups to promote recruitment at their rock concerts.

          Their god is a god of hate, of bigotry, and war. Their god is evil. 

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          • Author by autopsychic (February 07, 2007 9:17 am ET)
               

              "Their god is a god of hate, of bigotry, and war. Their god is evil."

               Hull-ooo! You have no idea what Christianity is about.

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            • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (February 07, 2007 9:29 am ET)
                 

              PC, I don't think he's referring to realChristianity, just the people who have kidnapped it and abused it recently.

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            • Author by rusty shackleford (February 07, 2007 9:34 am ET)
                 

              PC, what part of the paragraph preceding the "hate, bigotry and war" assertion is incorrect?

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            • Author by nerzog (February 07, 2007 9:48 am ET)
                 

              I think many of today's conservatives are the ones who don't know what Christianity is about.  George Bush declared Jesus his favorite political philosopher in a debate, yet his policies are nothing that the Biblical Jesus could possibly support.

              Since people tend to create God in their own image, I think RedKing has it right in this case.   Bigots, racists, warmongers and moneygrubbers will attribute those same personality traits onto the God that they worship.  It's just human nature.

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            • Author by redking75687 (February 09, 2007 1:24 pm ET)
                 

              They ain't Christians. Jesus wasn't about killing people and armageddon fantasies. He was about reforming the Jewish Church from intolerance and bigotry to one of inclusiveness. I call these folk "neo-jews" because they still cling to the old hebraic myths and philosophies. They reject the teachings of Jesus. I'm a Taoist and I'm far more "Christian" than they are, because I do live by the Golden Rule. They don't.

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    • Author by jeter2 (February 07, 2007 9:47 am ET)
         

      How long have US Troops been stationed in South Korea? 56-57 years?

      Figure we'll be in Iraq at least that long...or longer...UNLESS this Congress finally summons up the balls to stand up to Bush and inform him that financing for this war will be terminated within 6 months to a year.

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      • Author by nerzog (February 07, 2007 9:51 am ET)
           

        I think you're correct.  I honestly believe that we are there to secure the oil fields.  As long as we have an oil based economy, we will have troops in Iraq.  As I've stated before, I fully expect GWB and his daughters to get cushy jobs on some Oil Company's board of directors after he leaves office.

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    • Author by brantl (February 07, 2007 3:45 pm ET)
         

      Hell, Laura will probably get one, too. The Bushs have been really GOOD suck-up sock puppets, after all.

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    • Author by ESADYFL (February 07, 2007 3:51 pm ET)
         

      You people just crack me up.  You should try to really listen to message of radical Islam.

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      • Author by solon (February 07, 2007 4:55 pm ET)
           

        You post would have some relevance IF invading the most SECULAR Islamic nation in the middle east had ANYTHING to do with radical Islam but it doesnt so YOU HAVE NO POINT

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      • Author by rusty shackleford (February 08, 2007 10:04 am ET)
           

        You should try to really listen to message of radical Islam.

        F___ them too. 

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    • Author by ESADYFL (February 07, 2007 7:49 pm ET)
         

      You still crack me up and you still don't get it.  Once again you should try listening to what they (radical Islam) are saying.  You don't even have to listen to all the content, just listen to the chants.  And by the way, I didn't know Afganistan was the most secular nation in the middle east.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (February 07, 2007 11:40 pm ET)
           

        You don't even have to listen to all the content, just listen to the chants. ESADYFL

        Kinda like Fox news, huh?

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    • Author by ESADYFL (February 08, 2007 12:30 pm ET)
         

      You really do crack me up.  I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one laughing here.  That was an excellant response.  But seriously.... "Death to America.  Death to America.  Death to America...." "Fair and Balanced.  Fair and Balanced. Fair and Balanced...."  The people chanting these statements may or may not be serious in there committments to the cause of the chant, but I think "Death to America" is a bit more cause for concern.  I'm sure you will correct me on this, please do, as I have greatly enjoyied the humor.

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