Limbaugh returns to football analysis: "[T]hey're dumping on" Grossman "because he is a white quarterback"
On the February 5 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh, responding to media coverage of Chicago Bears quarterback Rex Grossman, stated "they're dumping on this guy -- Rex Grossman -- for one reason, folks, and that's because he is a white quarterback." Limbaugh later insisted in conversation with a caller that, "they just want this guy not to do well 'cause he's a white quarterback," and that Grossman was "targeted for destruction." The Bears lost to the Indianapolis Colts 29-17 in Super Bowl XLI.
Limbaugh was forced to resign from his position as a football analyst for ESPN in 2003 after he claimed that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because "[t]he media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well." The following season, McNabb led his team to the Super Bowl.
Several weblogs took note of Limbaugh's comments, including American Princess, Night Bird's Fountain, and Skull/Bones.
From the February 5 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: And before we go to the break here, folks, I've got to get something off my chest. You know, the game was the game. And the game was what it was. But I - I can't handle anymore press criticism of Rex Grossman. They're writing his name W-R-E-C-K-S. They're just -- worst quarterback ever to play in the Super Bowl. And it's been like this since the Green Bay game -- actually since the Arizona game, a little crescendo of it in the Green Bay game, the last game of the season for the Bears. And it's just unrelenting! It's just -- they're focusing on this guy like they don't focus on anybody! And I tell you, I know what it is. The media, the sports media, has got social concerns that they are first and foremost interested in, and they're dumping on this guy -- Rex Grossman -- for one reason, folks, and that's because he is a white quarterback.
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CALLER: But, I also wanted to say that I appreciated the fact that you were having some compassion for Grossman. I sat there last night watching the game and I felt sorry for him. He is a Hoosier, by the way. His grandfather played for the Baltimore Colts.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah.
CALLER: And I -- you know, he's a young guy. You know, it's a team effort.
LIMBAUGH: It's, yeah, they're just all over this guy. They can't wait for this guy to fail. They are hoping he fails.
CALLER: Yes, they're terrible.
LIMBAUGH: They're talking about before the game, they're talking about him as the worst quarterback ever to play in the Super Bowl and they're asking [Bears head coach] Lovie Smith all during the week, "When are you going to bench the guy, Lovie? At what point in the game?" And that's the only time Lovie Smith apparently lost his cool a little bit during the week with, with media sessions. You know what this is: The media - you, you know the social things. I don't need to go into this.
CALLER: Well --
LIMBAUGH: They, they just want this guy not to do well 'cause he's a white quarterback.
CALLER: Even during the game last night. Before, before they went on the air they were all saying who they were going to pick and why and everything and when the, you know, the - they made their first runback with the score - then they started turning the tables on everything. It's like, "Now, wait a minute. I heard what you said before the game started." You know? Now they're changing tunes because --
LIMBAUGH: Well, because they're -- no -- they were all acting surprised. Everybody was acting, "Whoa. Grossman can actually complete a pass. Why nobody thought this would happen. Let's stop everything and give him the MVP now. He actually completed a pass." But he came through for them in the end. All those fumbles. The wounded-duck interceptions. He gave them the copy they wanted to write today all last week.
CALLER: Well --
LIMBAUGH: They were hoping to write that Grossman was an embarrassment and that Lovie Smith needs to seriously bring in somebody to compete with him next training camp. I can, look it, I feel for the guy. He's, apparently, bores, bears up under it rather well or has borne up under it rather well or so his teammates say and so forth. But the guy's been targeted for destruction.
Rush really has a hair up his butt about black quarterbacks, doesn't he?
I don't suppose the criticism has anything to do with the fact that Grossman fumbled two snaps and threw two interceptions, could it?
Last time I looked, Manning is also a white quarterback. I didn't get any sense that "they" wanted him "not to do well."
<>Sure, it couldnt be his sad performance in the Super Bowl. I wonder why they arent dumping on Peyton Manning? Last time I looked HE was white. I think its time we started dumping on Rushingdownthedrugaddictionmountain because he is a bigot and a fool
"I think its time we started dumping on Rushingdownthedrugaddictionmountain because he is a bigot and a fool"
I remember you telling me one time that Rush is intelligent. How can Rush be both intelligent and a fool?
Stay on topic.
The topic is about Rush. It is on topic!
You can both be intelligent and lack wisdom. I see it all the time. Rush just happens to be an extreme example.
Are you kidding? I know tons of intelligent fools. Foolishness is often a consequence of arrogance and not stupidity.
Could it the mere fact (I know Rush doesn't like facts) that Grossman stunk it up all year long? I mean, he didn't play well, and if it wasn't for the Bears defense, Chicago wouldn't have made it through to the Super Bowl. Grossman played well during the playoffs, but then he went back to stinking it up in the Super Bowl. It's got nothing to do with him being white, but it has everything to do with the FACT that he stunk last Sunday. Look at the stats Rush, they don't lie like you do.
As a Bears fan who watched the whole season, I think Sexy Rexy's biggest sin was 1) inconsistency and 2) desiring to make the heroic play. Both interceptions were home run passes. Otherwise he is the best QB the Bears have had in awhile and they wouldn't have made the SB without him.
And geez, Rushbo, why dig a hole further?
You're right that Rex is the best QB in a while but you have to admit that is not saying much. I think Rex's main problem is three fold.
1. He is young. His youth and inexperience causes him to make bad decisions.
2. His injuries have kept him out of football and he has regressed somewhat.
3. The Bears offense has given him too much to do. A young QB like that should have fewer reads and be given the shotgun as an option so he can better evaluate his options while not worrying as much about his footwork and the pressure.
Ok I know this is off topic but I love talking sports.
Could it the mere fact (I know Rush doesn't like facts) that Grossman stunk it up all year long?
Not true! Rex was incredible in the first 5 games. He didn't stink till the AZ game, which the Bears won with some help from the defense and a crappy Cardinals team.
Somehow, and oddly enough, successfully, Limbaugh has latched onto Professional sports as a readily acceptable means of expressing not-very-subtle racism...
He literally has been on the air so long, toe-ing the decency line so long, that people don't here just how egregious his statements are, let alone hold him to task for it.
Thank you, MMA, for shining a light on the putridity that is limbaugh's racism.
Tomorrow, Rush will explain Tiger Woods' dominance in golf with the fact that the other players lose deliberately because he's black.
Rush claimed the ESPN job was a "dream job", implying he's a big football fan. Nobody can say this stuff if they follow the sport at all.
1. Michael Vick does not have it easy in the press. He is skewered after every predictably mediocre game. Likewise, find me one writer who praised Aaron Brooks this season. Hell, Ill spot you last season too.
2. Rex Grossman played amazing the first month or so. The entire sports press was very impressed and said that with their same defense and Rex playing so well they were easily the frontrunners (this is before their D got banged up, and Rex fell off a cliff).
3. Every capable white QB is praised to high heaven. Drew Brees, Brady, Peyton Manning, etc. Every capable black QB is praised similarly. Peyton, of course, got tons of hell for choking until he won the big one. How soon Rush forgets.
4. Were writers waiting for Rex to screw up so they can write the copy they want? Possibly. But he did give it to them. He played like crap. Is it wrong to call a crap game a crap game? Is it wrong to say this guy has played like ass all year? Did Donovan McNabb get any sympathy after his SB loss (and he played far far better than Rex did)?
The Bears had the opportunity to win late until Rex screwed up. Three times. He may not have lost them the game (I say he did), but he definitely choked when it was all on the line. To say otherwise is just flat out delusional.
Rush couldn't be more wrong. I live in Chicago but am not from here. The sports media in this town have does nothing but destroy its teams when anything goes wrong. NO ONE gets a pass here. But I don't really think Sexy Rexy is what Rush wanted to talk about. The real issue was the coaches. All night people were reminded that an African American coach was going to win the SB. However, when Tony Dungy praised God and his Christian values for helping him and Lovie get to that level he knew he could not attack them for fear of backlash from the Christian Right. So he just moved on to the next best thing. Well next best in his little mind.
I'm a big Rush fan, but I'd have to disagree with him on this one. After all, Peyton Manning is white, and the media has been praising his performance. Michael Vick has also been criticized in the press for his play and his actions. The media is criticizing Grossman simply because the guy is terrible. The Bears are only a mediocre team as well. If they would have been in the AFC, I doubt if they would've even made the playoffs. The NFC just completely sucked this year, as they have for the past ten years. Rush should just stick to politics.
Rino,
Looks like you may start to be coming around. But I have to disagree with you on your football analysis. The Bears were not a mediocre football team. They beat the Jet's and they came very close to betting the Patriots. The only game they lost where they should have won was Miami. The main difference between the first half Bears and the second half Bears was Tommy Harris. He is the Bear's best player by far. I'm sure if you took away Peyton from the Colts they would not have made the NFC championship game let alone the SB. Just my two cents.
i know the dolphins had a bad year, but the fact is they beat the hell out of both the bears and patriots in the second half of the season. 31-13 is not "should have won". as for rush, he's an idiot. i know he has a large male audience, so how do they listen to this crap? mcnabb plays because he is an excellent qb. grossman gets criticized because he's not. black, white, it's the same. everybody loves a winner.
"mcnabb plays because he is an excellent qb"
I'd have to disagree with that. Mcnabb was good at one time, but he's gone down hill pretty fast. Also, he was never a great passer, just a great runner. He was a good quarterback at one time, but not a great one, in my opinion. But I don't agree with Rush that the media loved Mcnabb because he was black. I don't think that has anything to do with it. The media loves Tom Brady as well, and he's white. I'll admit that the media loves Vince Young right now as well, but Vince Young is a superstar. He's already better than Mcnabb could ever dream about being.
I don't know what stats you look at but McNabb is a great QB. 2004 over 3800 yards 31 TD 8 int with a 104 QB rating. In 2005 he was hurt and still had 2500 yards with 16 TDs and 9 int. And that was the year when he was playing hurt. This past year before he was hurt he had 2600 yards 18 TD and 6 int with a 95.5 QB rating (4th in the nfl). If those are not good stats I don't know what are. McNabb is a top tier QB who has gotten better the longer he has played in the league.
now that that's settled, if the girls would just hurry up with the beer and chips. [joke, ladies]
True enoug that McNabb has put up great numbers. My problem with Lush Rimjob is that he has no idea what kind of media scrutiny McNabb has faced in Philly. His central theory was that McNabb gets easy media treatment simply because he's black and the media wants Black QBs to do good. That's assinine if you know anything about What McNabb has gone through since he's been here. Had Rimjob ever heard of the "Dirty Thirty" when he made his comment that McNabb gets easy treatment? That was the group of 700 level fans who went to the draft and booed mcNabb's selection (not so much ceause they didn't like McNabb but more because they wanted Ricky Williams). Did he know about how people (even in the media here) have consistently complained about his accuracy, throwing balls in the dirt, and problems reading defenses? Did Rimjob know that when AJ Feeley replaced McNabb in 2003 and won a few games that there was actually a Qb controversy here for a period? Or how about the continued criticism he faced in losing 3 consecutive NFC championship games? Or how about the media siding with Terrell over McNabb somehwat 2 years ago? Or how about the media and fans talking about how Garcia is better for the west coast offense (ostensibly because its more cerebral than others) See here's the problem I have with Rimjob: he doesn't know what he's talking about. Being in Florida he doesn't get the news on McNabb save a few stories he may see watching a few minutes of Sporstcenter in between popping Viagra and Oxy Pills. He's like Patrick McEnroe talking about non-racket sports when he was on the Fan. He sounded stupid and not knowledgable.
Rush should just stick to politics
Yeah, he's on solid ground there, Rino! I guess I never noticed before that it's only when he talks sports that he transforms into a lying, bloviating, bigoted pig. Well, since you're such a big fan of his, maybe you could tell him to cool it with the football talk, or else the Nobel committee might get the wrong idea about him!
What I don't get is that Limbaugh gets roasted as a racist when he accuses the press of harboring a bias toward McNabb because of his race and then he gets skewered again for saying the press has shown a bias against Grossman because of his race.
I don't get how calling the press racist makes Limbaugh a racist?
Following the logic, is anyone who calls anyone else out for being "racist" a racist themselves?
Now, I'm not saying I agree with Limbaugh. I don't read enough of the sports pages or listen to commentary enough to form an opinion. (However I did enjoy watching the Super Bowl, which I turned off right after the game.) Heck argue all you want that Limbaugh is wrong, but why muddy the discusion by labeling him a racist?
What I don't get is that Limbaugh gets roasted as a racist when he accuses the press of harboring a bias toward McNabb because of his race and then he gets skewered again for saying the press has shown a bias against Grossman because of his race.
I don't get how calling the press racist makes Limbaugh a racist?
He argued (without merit) that the press PRAISED McNabb only because he was black. He argues (without merit) that the press COMPLAINS about Grossman only because he's white.
This is exactly what racists (of all colors) do: argue that they are being treated differently because of race, in any situation, even if it has nothing to do with race. He takes on the role of the victim, and the aggressors to him are those who support black sportsmen.
Oops, by sportsmen I mean athletes. :)
Rush was being sarcastic about Rex Grossman. It just amazes me how stupid media matters is and how Rush just plays them like a fiddle.
Rush was referring to the likes of Mike Wilbon in the McNabb matter who sees everything as black or white. I agree with Rush's point that the media of Wilbon's ilk was wanting McNabb to be great because of his race. I disagree with him in that McNabb was/is borderline hall-of-fame material and although Rush was right that the defense was dominant in Philly that year, I thought McNabb was better than Rush was giving him credit for.
I just love how Rush can mock Media Matters and they just take the bait and run with it. How this website can be so naive is unbelievable.
Actually I think Rush was more successful at unwittingly mocking how stupid his original rant was against McNabb.
Race has nothing to do with it. Most people know this. All of this "sly as a fox" commentary from right-wingers just isn't borne out by the evidence.
Rush had to explain his "joke" the next day. Bad form for a "comedian."
AA,
I don't think you are really seeing the point. The reason one could say this shows Rush's racism is because the issue is not racial at all. Rush is taking a non-racial issue and is injecting race into it. It all goes back to Rush's belief that the media will look the other way for black quarterbacks and coaches. This is just more evidence. If this were the only thing Rush had aver said I would agree with you. But this is just more of the same from him.
I agree with you. And sadly, many on Rush's political opposition also inject race when it suits their agenda and is totally irrelevant in a given situation.
Thanks for giving us example of those others [sarcasm], and even if you can give examples it wouldn't matter--we were talking about the bigot Rush Limbaugh !!!
There you go again Tommy. Didn't your parents ever tell you that two wrongs don't make a right?
AA,
I don't know whether Rush is a racist or not, I don't throw that term out that with such regularity as some here do. But I do think he uses race as a club to beat his opponents with straw arguments and irrelevant information in order to demonize them, or marginalize their opinions.
He can then dismiss, or categorize, or minimize it in a way in which he doesn't have to address substance in an issue but rather play to people's emotions about race......and trying to cut off his opponent's arguments at their knees. In this instance, he is no better than those on the left, aka Jesse, who do the same thing. They use race for their own personal reasons and advantage.
Tommy..!! I will help you out here...Rush is a pure racist....discussion over...
If injecting race into a nonexistant racial situation is the barometer for being labeled a racist, then those that practice such sleazy tactics from both the right and the left need to be called on it equally, to be consistent. It's your term, not mine. Sadly, when this happens it only minmizes, demeans and cheapens real race related issues.
...and Rush IS being called on it...he needlessly interjects race where there is (to normal thinking people, like us) NO race issue...and if you still have doubts to whether he IS a racist, search the MMFA archives for Rush...you will get a lot of crap coming from his mouth...
Be specific. Define what "injecting race into a nonexistant (sic) racial situation" means, say who on the left is doing it, and make some sort of case that there's an equivalence - are those on the left who are doing whatever you say they are doing of equal or similar prominence to Rush Limbaugh?
I am not assuming you are making things up, but this is an extremely broad statement, and without at least some context it is pretty hollow.
Val,
Google Jesse Jackson, Sharpton or Farakkhan's name and check out some examples of situations they have injected themselves into and put race front and center, creating a firestorm when there is no proof or evidence that race was a factor at all. Like a police incident where the alleged lawbreaker was black and there was allegadly inappropriate force used.......although there is no evidence that race was involved at all, the Jesse's of the world swoop in and make it an issue. Before all facts come out, or any judgement is rendered. That is "playing the race card", just as this instance by Rush is........same tactics, different players.
It's official. I googled as best I could to support your argument, but I couldn't find a single link to support what you are saying. I don't think these links exist.
You must have been making it all up.
Tommy hates Jesse!
Ahh Lynn, I don't hate Jesse. He is an opportunist and uses race much the same way Rush does - for their own benefit. In my opinion.
Anotheramerikan...you just don't get it, or you're being disingenuous. In both cases, Rush is accusing the press of showing favoritism to black quarterbacks. He's being consistently racist, and his critics are consistently calling him on it. Thanks for playing.
The press is dumping on Grossman because the Bears lost. The QB is the easy target, especially when he throws 2 interceptions (he posted a 73.4 passer rating) and muffs some snaps. This is only a matter of race in Rush's mind. Thus he's the racist.
Interestingly, the QB is often the undeserving hero when his team wins. Manning's performance, based on passer rating, was actually a barely better than average 81.8. Despite the preference to not honor mutiple individuals, I thought the Colts' running backs or offensive line were more deserving. Yet, Manning won the award because he was the QB, not because he was the beneficiary of white racism.
I thought the MVP should have gone to Joseph Addai. He has really been awesome this year, and he was a huge asset in the Super Bowl.
"The media, the sports media, has got social concerns that they are first and foremost interested in, and they're dumping on this guy -- Rex Grossman -- for one reason, folks, and that's because he is a white quarterback."
Absolutely astounding, Rush...!!!
First of all, for those you who aren't football fans, Rex Grossman is a good but INCONSISTENT quarterback. While in some games throughout the season he had high quarterback ratings (a formula based on certain performance statistics), in a considerable number of other games he had possibly the lowest ratings a quarterback could get. Grossman's well publicized inconsistency was a cause of concern to his own team.
That the sports media are preoccupied with "social concerns" is probabaly the most laughable of Limbaugh's comments. Although I can think of a small number of sports writers who occasionally express "social" views regarding sports, the vast majority of the sports media are either ex-jocks or sports junkies. I'm not at all saying they're dumb or that they aren't good at what they do in reporting sports, only that you don't hear much from the sports media about their "social concerns". The reason is probably because their readers, viewers and listeners don't want to hear about "social concerns"... they want to know if Terrel Owens and Bill Parcells could co-exist... or whether the Bears defense was capable of confusing and stopping Peyton Manning.
Even those of Rush Limbaugh's "ditto-heads" who are sports fans should be laughing at the lunacy of Limbaugh's remarks.
Leave to comedian and racist Rush Limabaaagh to inject race into this issue. Most people never gave it a second thought, but el-rush-blob has race on the brain.
When are his sponsors going to pull the plug on this guy who clearly makes racists comments on a regular basis?
Hey Rush...words mean things.
OK..I HATE Peyton Manning and rooted for the Bears because I am a Patriots fan.
Now, had my Pats not folded in the seciond half, would The Racist Pillhead have said that Manning was a playoffs failure because of his coach being Black? I tend to think that Oxy-Boy would have brought in Dungy's race as a factor in the Colts not reaching The Big Game or said that people wanted Manning to fail because he is a White Republican (look it up..he has contributed to Repub campaigns).
This Super Bowl must have been hard for The Pill Popper to watch..those sideline shots of the two head coaches must have raised his blood pressure...
Hey, Comedian, the reason the media is dumping on Rex Grossman is not because he's white. Did you even see the Super Bowl? He was fumbling the football and threw a couple of key interceptions - one of which was run back for the game-winning touchdown.
Last time I checked, Rush, Peyton Manning is also white, as are 23 of the other 30 starting quarterbacks (as currently listed on the NFL website) - including Peyton's brother Eli. The other seven quarterbacks doesn't include the Big Fat Idiot's favorite punching bag, Donovan McNabb, who was injured but still a damn good player.
The irony here is if Chicago would have had Donovan McNabb as their starting QB they probably would have won.
Sure, Franco, with a couple of those affirmative action extra points.
And the playing field tilted to his benefit.
Wait, I'm channeling El Rushbo!
I can almost agree with Rush on this one except I think he misses the point. The NFL has long been accused of having a "glass ceiling" for black coaches. (african-american or whatever euphemism you want to use) The fact that such a big deal was made in the media about two black coaches being in the Superbowl underscores the veracity and extent of descrimination.
So, I agree that the media has been giving disproportionate coverage of black athletes and coaches in an effort to repair the NFL's image. But rather than focus the blame on individual athletes, I think it would be more informative to analyze the real underlying racism that the so-called "reverse racism" is attempting to compensate for.
There has been a glass ceiling in sports for black coaches. It has only been recently that many of these obstacles have been removed. As far as the disproportionate coverage for black athletes, I think that is difficult given the number of black professional athletes. The media mentioned it because it was historical. But I don't see how acknowledging and mentioning a historical moment is reverse racism.
What does any of that have to do w/ Rex Grossman and the media's portrayal of him?
The topic at hand is Rush's delusions about the media getting on Grossman because of his race, and not because of his shoddy play in the Super Bowl. Not the coverage of two black coaches.
Rush is just a funny guy. He was probably just "joking". He must be running out of bad things to say about Liberals. Besides, I think Rush and Condy Rice have been romantically linked. That is Rushs' comedy back at him. Therefore, he cannot be a racist. A HATER, not a racist.
Well, that certainly explains why the local media here in the San Francisco Bay Area were soooooo rough on Joe Montana and Steve Young! Not to mention Kenny Stabler. Or Jim Plunkett. Joe Kapp, anyone? We just hate on those honkey QB's out here!
Nice pun, BlunderRush, on how Rex "bears up."
For the record, Grossman is short for a quarterback and not quick in the pocket. Therefore he needs superior football vision/passing skill or great blocking to allow him time and to see the field of play. When he gets the blocking he can look very good. When he doesn't he can look very bad. If an offensive line wants him to look good, they can play harder for him that game.
Rush scores another touchdown for the visiting Racists yet again. I am glad that anal cyst, er... I mean, "football knee" that kept him out of Nam hasn't hurt his ability to score for bigotry everywhere.
It seems clear to me that Rush's feelings on this are that a WHITE QB gets criticized while a BLACK QB gets praised. In this argument he shows himself to be completely out of touch with professional sports while simultaneously displaying clear signs of racism. He is obviously doing what many people in do to forward their argument of the moment: take a single example, twist it out of context and use it as the bellwether for the argument. It's patently wrong but easily sold to the masses because it accomplishes the true mission: argue semantics over substance.
I think it's disingenuous to say that there is no "race" in professional sports. Of course there is. There's race in everything in this country. We all just hate to talk about it and are loath to actually do anything about it. The issue has never truly been dealt with so it crops up often and makes everyone very uncomfortable. It's the same kind of situation that happens when the discussion of women in positions of power crops up. Someone will call it out. Someone else will say those people are just being over reactive or PC. And then everyone will argue about semantics and never get around to talking about the actual issue.
BTW: Rex Grossman is terrible. Those INTs he thru were not hero plays nor homerun passes, they were terrible panic throws. They were lofted, floating, desperate garbage balls thrown into good coverage. He stinks. And while I do like the Bears, they will never win anything with that bum under center.
I gotta say, a white guy just can't get a fair shake in this country. Blacks get all the good jobs. They go to the better schools. They make more money. They have better health care. They don't have to deal with drugs and crime nearly as much as us white folk. They live in nicer parts of town. And their NFL quarterbacks don't have to play under constant scutiny as do our white quarterbacks.
Every morning when I wake up, I thank the Lord that Rush Limbaugh is out there fighting for us whites. I just don't know how much worse it could get for us. Yet somehow, I wonder where in the world would we be without him. I sure hope we'll never have to find out.
[someone shoot me, please]
Funny how these conservatives who want us to believe they don't see color and want a colorblind world are the first to bring up race in any and all matters where it doesn't belong. Rush and others know all of the statistics broken down by race but are quick to call others racists. Welcome to 21st century biggotry.
Limbaugh should stick to topics he knows something about.
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For the record Rex Grossman had more games this season with a QB rating below 40 than any other quarterback. As for his performance in the Super Bowl; Rex had only 44 yards before the fourth quarter, then threw two interceptions and mishandled two snaps.
Oh yea and by the way, the quarterback that the “media” were all picking to beat up on poor white Rex Grossman, Peyton Manning, the whitest man in America. Rush is on drugs…
That's right, Rush. Because we all know that no group in America has had to overcome and endure so much as the "white quarterback." What a brutal existence they must lead.
I fancy myself to be pretty knowledgeable about sports, so I feel compelled to weigh in on this issue. The thing about Grossman is this: He isn't the worst QB in NFL history. He's just the worst Super Bowl QB in history. Most Super Bowl teams require at least an adequate quarterback, and most require a superior one. Grossman is poor, and the Bears made it this far in spite of Grossman, due to their defense and special teams. Couple that with his very poor performance in several games in the regular season, and one must conclude that Grossman is inconsistent at best, and probably well below average.
I just don't see why Limbaugh feels necessary to give his two cents on this issue. Just because you are a football fan, doesn't mean you are a football expert. So, what is Limbaugh's track record? He failed to land the MNF gig, was fired from ESPN for an idiotic (and possibly racist) comment, and now this. I have to say, race was the absolute last thing that came to mind when assessing Grossman's performance. Limbaugh not only doesn't know what he's talking about, but is letting his KKK roots show.
I'll leave you with this. Michael Vick finished the regular season with a higher QB rating than Grossman, and rushed for 1000+ yards to boot. The Falcons are not nearly as good as a team as are the Bears, yet throughout the regular season, Vick was just as maligned, if not more so, than Grossman. If Vick had laid an egg comparable in size to the one Grossman laid on Super Bowl Sunday, if Vick had single-handedly sqandered one of the greatest defense-special teams combos in recent memory, he would have been roasted in the media. Trust me, there is no double-standard here, only a moronic talk-show host with apparently no insightful commentary on the game whatsoever.
apologies, this is a long quote:
RUSH: I'll give you an example of how I do this. Are you familiar, Paul, with -- how shall I say this? -- the controversy in which I became entwined over comments made about the media; the way they reported on Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb?
CALLER: Yes, I am.
[link to www.rushlimbaugh.com]
RUSH: All right. Well, we just finished our Super Bowl here and the Chicago Bears quarterback, Rex Grossman, for the last three weeks has just been slimed by the sports media in this country. They just said that he was the worst quarterback to ever play in the Super Bowl. They have been treating this guy with no mercy whatsoever. They have been predicting doom and gloom; they've been hoping that he would have a rotten Super Bowl. They're happily reporting that he did, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So yesterday, I said that I think the only reason that the media is down on Rex Grossman is because they have this "social desire" for the NFL to become modernized and so forth, get with it for the twenty-first century, and they just love trashing this guy because he's a white quarterback and they don't want him to do well.
CALLER: Oh, yeah.
RUSH: Now, I did that -- I think it's safe to admit it now -- because I was trying to tweak the same media who went bonkers when I said the same thing about them and the way they treat Donovan McNabb. Twenty-four hours have gone by and they haven't picked up on it, so either they knew I was joking and got the point or... Obviously they haven't picked it up so they knew that I was tweaking them. It's the same thing here: of course I don't think it's okay to call Jews apes and Christians pigs, but to simply ask, "What's so hateful about that?" is my way of calling even more attention to how absurd it is.
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this is from the free part of his website
So he's not a racist, he's just a race baiter.
Gee, that's so much better.
So he's not a racist, he's just a race baiter.
Rusty, you nailed it... someone could possibly argue in good faith (naively, perhaps) that whether Rush Limbaugh harbors racist feelings towards blacks is subject to debate. (I know what my opinion is.) But... that Rush Limbaugh is a "race baiter" is clearly and convincingly established by the long and well-documented record of his own words... and he does this with such regularity and predictability that it can't be passed off as occasional misunderstandings. It appears to me that Limbaugh plays to a segment of his audience that are blatantly racist to incite them... welcome to Republican politics.
I think you have pointed out where Rush's argument is idiotic.
Because Rush needlessly injected race into the argument about McNabb. The argument was resoundingly rejected.
Now Rush is doing the same thing again about Rex Grossman and it is being rejected again.
Why does Rush try to make an analogy to a rejected argument using the same rejected basis?
I think Rush is grasping at straws to regain some sort of respect or credibility (if he ever had either to begin with).
He is searching for redemption in his argument, but doesn't seem to get the underlying flaws in it.
Rush is back on the juice,
As much as I hate to say it, I think it's true.
what a shame- you can here it in his voice -
What a national holiday you all with have when he goes down again.
Hang in there Rusty, some of us still love ya despite personal demons.
To be quite honest, I never could tell when Rush was high or not. The arguments never seemed to change all that drastically.
The constant nasal drip is a dead giveaway.
most of all he is very slow on the uptake with callers lately and this thing about the "white" QB is pretty dumb and not up to his standards.
I know he now claims it's a joke but a life on dope is a life of regret.
Ummm, does anyone understand sarcasm? ......... Anyone?
No. Nobody understands sarcasm at all. What is it? Tell us all about it, oh great one!
;^)
Whats next Rush
Mark Foley targeted b/c he is white
Tom Delay targeted b/c he is white
heck even Bill Clinton targeted b/c he is white...
In three days we have had Bill O Reilly Glenn Beck and Limbaugh make comments directly or indirectly denigrating race relations in this country.....nothing in the RW happens by coincidence...is the RW preparing to use race openly as an attack in the upcoming Presidential elections in light of Obama's run....sure looks like it to me...
This guy is really reaching.
Whats funny is how people tend to forget that Rush included black coaches years back when talkign about quarterbacks.
Even MM fell for the media chop shopping.