CBS, Fox News did not report Gen. Pace's skepticism about Iranian ties to weapons in Iraq
SUMMARY: Reporting on allegations by anonymous U.S. military
officials that Iran is supplying explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) to
Shiite fighters in Iraq, neither CBS'
David Martin nor Fox
News' Bret Baier mentioned
that Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, has reportedly said that he has seen no evidence directly
linking the Iranian government to the EFPs in Iraq.
Reporting on Iran's alleged ties to the supply of explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) used against U.S. soldiers in Iraq on the February 12 edition of the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, national security correspondent David Martin uncritically reported what he said was CBS News consultant Reza Aslan's belief that "supplying the devices is Iran's way of saying, 'If you want us to stop, let's talk.' " Similarly, Fox News chief White House correspondent Bret Baier reported on the February 12 edition of Special Report with Brit Hume that some have asked if "the weapons are coming into Iraq with the approval of the Iranian government." Neither Martin nor Baier told viewers that Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has reportedly said he has seen no evidence directly linking the Iranian government to the supply of EFPs.
A February 12 McClatchy Newspapers article reported that Pace said "he hasn't seen any intelligence to support the claim" that "Iran's government [is] shipping powerful explosive devices to Shiite Muslim fighters in Iraq to use against American troops." Also, according to a February 12 Washington Post report, the U.S. military's briefing that sought to link Iran to EFPs in Iraq was "notable for what was not said or shown," adding that the military officials who briefed reporters "offered no evidence to substantiate allegations that the 'highest levels' of the Iranian government had sanctioned support for attacks against U.S. troops." The Post article also noted that "the military briefers were not joined by U.S. diplomats or representatives of the CIA or the office of the Director of National Intelligence."
The only criticism of the administration's briefing that Special Report aired -- aside from that of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- came from Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), who said: "I'm getting uneasy that they're trying to create a premise, set a premise for some future broader military action in Iran." The report also included comments from President Bush and White House press secretary Tony Snow characterizing opposition to the U.S. military's briefing as merely "political." Baier did not report Pace's comments despite noting that "Snow was asked directly if the administration is confident the weapons are coming into Iraq with the approval of the Iranian government."
From the February 12 edition of the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric:
MARTIN: These specially shaped charges have triggered an increasingly high-stakes standoff between the U.S. and Iran. Today, Iran denied accusations by U.S. officials in Baghdad that these deadly devices were manufactured inside Iran. A State Department spokesman responded with some decidedly undiplomatic language.
SEAN McCORMACK (State Department spokesman): The Iranians are up to their eyeballs in this activity.
MARTIN: The diabolic genius of the device, which has killed 170 coalition soldiers so far, is the concave lid. When a vehicle triggers an infrared motion detector, the explosive charge propels the lid, which changes shape in flight into a molten slug able to penetrate the thickest armor. It is a sophisticated killing device, which makes a cruel mockery of the term U.S. officials first used to describe roadside bombs -- improvised explosive device, IED for short.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just one by itself is enough to cause catastrophic damage. They're the most lethal form of IED that we've encountered here in Iraq so far.
MARTIN: Iranian expert and CBS News consultant Reza Aslan has no doubt it comes from Iran, and no doubt Iran is capable of much worse.
ASLAN: If Iran truly wanted to see Iraq become a failed state, it could unleash a level of violence in that country unlike anything the United States has seen before.
MARTIN: Aslan thinks supplying the devices is Iran's way of saying, "If you want us to stop, let's talk." Despite rumors of war heightened by sending a second aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf, Aslan says chances of a diplomatic solution are not dead.
ASLAN: The great irony of all this is that this ratcheting-up of the militant rhetoric from the United States may actually lead to an opening of negotiations.
MARTIN: But officials say one of the arguments against holding talks with Iran is that with the war in Iraq going badly, the U.S. would be negotiating from a position of weakness, Katie.
COURIC: David Martin at the Pentagon tonight.
From the February 12 edition of Special Report with Brit Hume:
BAIER: In an interview with CSPAN, a day after senior military officials in Baghdad laid out what they called firm evidence of Iran shipping explosives into Iraq, President Bush shrugged off suggestions that the presentation is a prelude to war.
BUSH: I guess my reaction to all the noise about, you know, "He wants to go to war," is -- first of all, I don't understand the tactics, and I guess I would say it's political.
BAIER: The president was asked what he would say to lawmakers calling for specifics on how he'll deal with all the problems Iran is causing.
BUSH: I say we've got a comprehensive policy, aimed to solve this peacefully.
BAIER: This after a detailed briefing in Baghdad Sunday, where senior military officials said highly sophisticated weapons, known as "explosively formed penetrators," or EFPs, can be directly tied to Tehran from serial numbers and markings found on the roadside bombs. Senior officials said these EFPs have killed more than 170 U.S. and coalition troops by penetrating even the newest armored vehicles, sending hot, molten metal through Humvees.
The official said the supply trail of the EFPs, Iranian-made mortar shells, and rocket-propelled grenades began with Iran's revolutionary guard's Quds force in Tehran, and led directly to Shiite militias like the Mahdi Army, loyal to radical cleric Moktada al-Sadr.
White House officials stood firmly behind the report.
SNOW: You cannot deny that these weapons exist. You cannot deny that there is presently no manufacturing capability within Iraq able to produce those kinds of weapons.
BAIER: Snow was asked directly if the administration is confident the weapons are coming into Iraq with the approval of the Iranian government.
SNOW: There's not a whole lot of freelancing in the Iranian government, especially when it comes to something like that.
BAIER: While Iranian officials Monday strongly denied sending explosives into Iraq and accused the U.S. of fabricating evidence, in an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeatedly danced around the question.
AHMADINEJAD: We are asking for peace. We are asking for security, and we will be sad to see people get killed, no matter who they are.
SAWYER: Would you like to see the pictures? Because they say they have the serial numbers and they are from Iran. It's a fact, they say.
AHMADINEJAD: We don't need such things. The U.S. administration and Bush are used to accusing others. We are opposed to any kind of conflict in Iraq.
BAIER: Sunday, top Democrats expressed their own doubts about the administration's charges.
DODD: This administration has tried, in the past, to sort of doctor the numbers, to cook the books to serve their policy goals. We've seen that in the Iraq conflict. I'm getting uneasy that they're trying to create a premise, set a premise for some future broader military action in Iran.
BAIER: Which prompted a firm response from the White House.
SNOW: These guys are trying to create an issue maybe for their own political fortunes, and they need to stop it. This is clearly a case where people are hyping something up. I don't know how much clearer we can be. We're not getting ready for war in Iran, but what we are doing is, we're protecting our own people.
BAIER: Meantime, on the nuclear front, European Union leaders today agreed to implement United Nations sanctions on Iran for not suspending its uranium enrichment, but those same EU leaders said that Iran is now, quote, "showing new ambition to negotiate." Bush administration official reaction: We'll see. Brit.

















I fully expect an air campaign against Iran within two months. I could be wrong, and hope I am, but the signs seem to be pointing in that direction. Puddinhead George desperately needs a distraction to keep his Troglodyte base from jumping ship. Another war should do just fine; after all, Congress wouldn't dare impeach the Decider when we're at war on three fronts, would they? Surely not!
As a COLONEL, i dont mind commanding troops to attack Iran but at the same time I don't like the idea of putting the American public through another war. It's tough in my job.
What's your MOS, Colonel?
I notice it took you all of 4 minutes and 53 seconds (according to the time stamps) to respond to the "COLONEL" who doesn't "mind commanding troops to attack Iran" (that'd be our Sons and Daughters and Brothers and Sisters the "COLONEL" is talking about)...
...and for you to ask the "COLONEL" an easily answered question...
...and that it's now taking more than an hour and a half to get that answer.
Maybe the Internet Wire's been cut... no doubt by Iranian saboteurs, in advance of the Iranian invasion of the U.S.
At first I thought the same thing. I imagined that his internet tubes were all googled up and nothing could get through. But then I scrolled down and saw that he's made several more comments.
Someone should tell him that it's a crime to impersonate an officer.
Yeah he's about as much a Colonel as Colonel Sanders
The Colonel's MOS is "fictional character, anime." He serves as commaner of Foxhound and the Genome Soldiers in a Japanese video game called Metal Gear. Apparently, he's based on the Richard Crenna character in Rambo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_Metal_Gear_characters
ColRoy’s Duty…?
His MadeOuttaS**t qualification seems to be:
“Armchair ordering” except we don’t know if, that comes with scrambled eggs [on his shoulders] or he’s just a full-bird.
But whatever Roy’s MOS might be… Whenever he writes what he thinks, it’s got feathers attached to it.
You are a Col and I am the Pope.
i think the colonel wears a hat and sells fried chicken by the bucket.
look at how hateful you are to those in the military. i really am disgusted and if you were under my command you'd be in the brig.
If you would willingly lead US troops in an illegal and unprovoked attack on Iran and make war criminals of the men under your command, perhaps you better resign your commission.
It's only in the Navy they call it a brig, and there are no Colonels in the Navy.
Bam!
"It's only in the Navy they call it a brig, and there are no Colonels in the Navy."
That's not tru...in Star Trek they also call it a brig;...then again, there are no Colonels in Star Fleet, either.
If Mefirst were part of your command, dear Colonel, he'd be an anime "Genome Soldier" in a Japanese video game called Metal Gear. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_Metal_Gear_characters
very good. i had to check it out. another troll bites the dust.
Why is this a big surprise? Fox is trying to sell an Iranian attack to the American public through their propaganda machine. Too bad no one is buying it this time around. Notice the anti-iran rhetoric has been heating up lately and claims of Iranian influence have heated up. Look for a phony headline about an Iran attack on US troops soon on the border, which will give Bush an excuse for airstrikes.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/070206attackiran.htm
I think Puddinhead George should have read The Boy Who Cried Wolf as his one book in 2001, instead of My Pet Goat.
Another piece of Iran-Iraq link propaganda today - CNN Flash:
"Militant Iraqi cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has left Iraq and has been in Iran for at least two weeks, senior U.S. administration sources tell CNN. Sources close to al-Sadr deny he is in Iran."
The news lie machine will continue dailee. I knew it was coming when Bill-O began his Iran insurgent spin late last year.
This is maybe the hottest sub-topic under the Iraq heading... not really the notion that the U.S. is in any way on the verge of hostilities with Iran (which it is not), but the issue of the "insurgency" against the democratically-elected government in Iraq, and how best to characterize and understand that "insurgency".
Because that's what it is presently that puts Iran in the American "media" (and puts this item on MMFA's webpages): A desperate attempt by the Bush administration to portray that "insurgency" as Iranian...
Which is a lie every bit as brazen, as the lies about WMDs and al qeada links and uranium and aluminum tubes... lies all told by the Bush administration to the American People, to manipulate their perceptions of what's going on in Iraq, for the purposes of continuing to draw hundreds of billions of dollars out of the U.S. Treasury in the name of that occupation.
And it's an easy lie to see through, when you consider that all the horrific bombings and carnage we see being reported out of Iraq... bombings meant to destabilize the mostly Shia government, and terrorize the mostly Shia population... when we see these bombings and terror taking the lives of so many Shiites, we know it is not the work of Iranians... not the work of Shiites.
Why does this administration, and our crooked and privately-owned American "media", have so little to say about Saudi Arabia's influence in Iraq, and their role in the terror and bombings there?
Did I say they had little to say about Saudi Arabia's scheme of death and terror against Shiites in Iraq?
I meant to say they say nothing at all about it...
The very Saudi Arabian "royal" family whom bombed the U.S. on September 11, 2001 (and have gotten away with it!), who are the very sponsors and directors of this thing called 'al qaeda' in Iraq and worldwide... the president's "good friends" and business partners, the Saudis...
How is they're never mentioned as the authors of all the horrific violence directed against Shiites in Iraq?
Just how stupid does the Bush administration think the American People are, to lie yet again about Iraq, and portray the "insurgency" against the mostly Shia government and mostly Shia population of Iraq... to portray that "insurgency" as being Shia Iran...
...when in truth it is the Sunni Saudi Arabian "royal" family committing all that violence, in their grab for Iraq and Iraq's oil...
...and their "good friends" and business partners in the Bush administration, claiming it is Iran.
When the Bushites made their elaborate plans to perform a coup on a Middle Eastern country, thus creating a power vacuum, did they honestly think the surrounding countries would just watch it on their tvs? What kind of short sighted leader would think that the border countries would not take sides and help those who are most like themselves? Syria (Sunni country) is going to work with the Sunnis and Iran (shia) is going to work with the Shiites. Who the heck did not know that would happen? Also, I thought the plan was to democratize the region by the domino effect. Iraq first, then the others. Were we going to facilitate that without talking to any of the regional leaders? Syria is BEGGING us to talk to them. We refuse.
If we air strike Iran, every Shiite in the world will be coming after us. 9/11 will look like a Sunday picnic. WWIII did not start on 9/11, or the day we stormed Baghdad, but it will start the day we bomb Iran. I can promise you that.
Demo2020 and Chris, Great posts-
But I got a really strange feeling reading them.Then I realized as I read your rational and reality-based comments how seldom I hear or read these things.
I realize how I've stopped mentioning these things to conservative co-workers or acquaintances, how I've given up on some people, or got tired of being called an America-hater.
I also realized that,although the recent elections and some personal conversations I've had with people show encouraging signs of a general wising-up of the American public, there are still some big problems out there.
I don't just mean the war or our political situation in general, I mean that the media has slid the scale so far to the right that the above posts , if put on network TV, would be called "extremist" or "crazy".
And I realize I'm a pansy for shutting up with those co-workers and acquaintances who don't have any idea what's really going on.I got lazy, tomorrow's going to be bad for them.
Thanks, both of yous.
As I am watching and noting what is expected, I also note something else, Who is doing countermeasures?
If IED's are using infared motion detectors, how hard is it to trip them off before a vehicle with people drives by? If it is a motion detector, it has to give off a standing wave that could be detected, and a heat source sent out ahead and behind the vehicle detonating the IED at the wrong time.
At the very least a remotely operated vehicle at the head of a convoy could decoy the attack. As much money as is being wasted, is anyone giving any thought to at least keep more soldiers alive?
Yeah, just think what equipment our troops could buy with that 9 billion dollars that just sort of...disappeared. Maybe some of those billionaires who got tax cuts could take up a collection at the Country Club.