Despite flip-flops, Politico's Allen cast McCain and Giuliani as "socially moderate Republicans"
On the February 14 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, Mike Allen, chief political correspondent for The Politico, claimed that Republican presidential candidates Sen. John McCain (AZ) and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani are "socially moderate Republicans" -- ignoring their overtures to Christian conservatives and their inconsistencies and evasions on issues such as abortion.
From the February 14 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:
MEGYN KELLY (anchor): You know, Mike, when JFK ran, he announced in January for a November election. Now, we've got candidates announcing two years in advance of the election, and those who haven't announced are being accused of being, you know, recklessly lazy. In other words, they may not be able to win because they've waited so long. What accounts for the change in the way things are working?
ALLEN: Well, Megyn, it's partly because the contests that matter are going to happen earlier, and a potentially seismic event happened yesterday, Megyn, in my home state of California when a bill to move their February -- their primary up to February 5th from June passed and is supposed to be on the governor's desk within 10 days. Their contest was in June, when, of course, it made no difference.
Now, it's potentially decisive, and so you're going to see Republicans and Democrats spending tons of time in the most expensive state, California, and we have a twist this year, because two of the Republicans, John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, are the sort of pro-business, moderate -- socially moderate Republicans in the mold of the governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who could actually run out there. If California were in play in the general election, that, of course, would be a real game-changer for an electoral map that is usually pretty stable.
As Media Matters for America has noted, McCain has actively sought to curry the favor of Christian conservatives who supported President Bush in the 2000 presidential election -- the same Christian conservatives McCain denounced at the time. The Associated Press reported on August 28, 2006, that McCain "would consider" speaking at Bob Jones University, "a school he criticized during the 2000 presidential campaign for its ban on interracial dating and anti-Catholic views." On May 13, 2006, McCain delivered the commencement speech at Rev. Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, even though McCain had criticized Falwell in 2000 as an "agent[] of intolerance." As noted by the weblog Think Progress, in April 2006, McCain claimed that Falwell was no longer an "agent of intolerance." Think Progress also noted that, on February 23, McCain will deliver a keynote address to the Discovery Institute, the nation's leading advocate for "intelligent design" -- an alternative theory to Darwinian evolution that many scientists dismiss as a thinly veiled effort to dress up "creationism" as science. The website further noted McCain's "ambiguous record" on whether "intelligent design" should be taught as science -- in 2005, he claimed that "[t]here's enough scientists that believe it does" and that "I think all points of view should be presented." In 2006, McCain stated that "intelligent design" should "[p]robably not" be taught in science classrooms.
McCain has taken inconsistent positions on other social issues as well. As Media Matters noted, in 1999, McCain said he "would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade" but then issued a "clarification" several days later, reportedly saying: "I have always believed in the importance of the repeal of Roe vs. Wade, and as president, I would work toward its repeal." In 2005, he adopted yet another position, saying that he agreed "to some degree" that Roe v. Wade should be overturned. In 2006, McCain also issued a statement indicating that if he were the governor of South Dakota, he "would have signed" a controversial bill outlawing all abortions except when the life of the woman is threatened, but that he "would also take the appropriate steps under state law -- in whatever state -- to ensure that the exceptions of rape, incest or life of the mother were included." As New York Times columnist Paul Krugman noted: "But that attempt at qualification makes no sense: the South Dakota law has produced national shockwaves precisely because it prohibits abortions even for victims of rape or incest."
McCain also supported Arizona's Proposition 107, a constitutional amendment that would have banned same-sex marriage and civil unions, which Arizona voters rejected in 2006. On the November 19, 2006, broadcast of ABC's This Week, McCain denied that he was both "for" same-sex civil unions and "against" them.
Giuliani has shifted his stance on abortion in a seeming effort to appeal to religious conservatives. As Media Matters noted, Giuliani now says he supports a ban on so-called "partial-birth" abortions, despite opposing such a ban in 2000. Giuliani explains his current support by noting that the current law banning the procedure contains an exception where it is necessary to protect "the life of the mother." This explanation, however, lacks credibility, because, as blogger and media critic Greg Sargent wrote: "The version of the ban that Rudy opposed back then contained the provision for the life of the mother that Rudy is now saying is a prerequisite for his support of it."
Also, as Media Matters noted, before becoming mayor, Giuliani trumpeted his opposition to abortion rights but reportedly shifted his position following the U.S. Supreme Court's July 1989 decision in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services. In an October 13, 1989, article, The New York Times called Giuliani a "support[er]" of "the right of a woman to choose an abortion." Giuliani said he had "talk[ed] to [his] wife" about the issue following the Webster decision. The Associated Press explained in an October 13, 1989, article: "Once an outright opponent, [Giuliani] now says he supports abortion rights, and would not seek to reduce funds or services, even though he remains personally opposed."















McCain is far from a moderate. I really hope McCain is finally exposed in 2008 for what he is. I still never understood the media love affair with this guy.
You're a moderate if: 1)You're a Republican who doesn't vote for Bush tax cuts; and (2) You believe in amnesty for illegal aliens.
These are core Conservative issues.
So, saying McCain is a Moderate is accurate.
To answer your question why the Media like McCain. It is because the Media likes people who are willing to work with both parties. The media tries hard to not seem partisan, so when there is a consensus across party lines, they can cover the story w/out showing their bias either way.
Sorry, but McCain is against Roe v Wade. He is also anti Gun Control. I believe he is no moderate. Plus his love affair with Falwell. Yikes.
Doris , I agree with you McCain is a disgrace. He is not a moderate.
"Sorry, but McCain is against Roe v Wade. He is also anti Gun Control. I believe he is no moderate. Plus his love affair with Falwell. Yikes."
If he were for Roe v. Wade and pro Gun Control too, he might as well be a Democrat.
And love affair w/ Falwell? He spoke once that he hated Falwell, and then decided to go to his University later to get votes. Not quite a love affair.
And love affair w/ Falwell? He spoke once that he hated Falwell, and then decided to go to his University later to get votes. Not quite a love affair.
Correct, L. It's more accurately labeled "whoring."
Okay...
I don't support McCain. He's a moderate.
No McCain is not a moderate he is my Senator he is definitly socially conservative by any standard other than the anything to the left of Atilla the Hun standard. Also he specifically said SOCIALLY moderate so I dont get what tax cuts would have to do with that. It might be a core value but it would be considered a fiscal not social policy
LDoren, I don't see how a real conservative can vote for tax cuts before getting spending under control.
Unless reckless spending with massive debt is the new fiscally conservative plan.
"socially moderate Republicans"?
Trying to put a label on either of these guys right now is impossible, they're moving around so much.
John McCain is not a moderate.
He's the epitome of a political whore: He will say anything, do anything, kiss anybody's ring (including the Jerry Falwells of the world) to get what he wants.
He's not a "maverick"; he's just another hack politician who deserves to be exposed for the fraud he is.
Sportsguy
You have the best post of the night and said it best about McCain.
He is someone I have zero respect for.
When is the media going to start focusing on the fact that Giuliani not only has been married three times, but cheated on both of his first two wives? Not to mention that McCain's current wife was his mistress from cheating on his first wife when she was recovering from a horrific car accident? Or that McCain's current wife is an Anheuser Busch mogul worth a minimum of $27 million? Why was that an issue for Kerry (Heinz money) but not for McCain? DOUBLE STANDARD.
Also, Romney has flip flopped on abortion just since 2004. That should be covered as well (I did see Hardball call him a flip flopper, so there is hope.)
Not to mention that GOP Golden Boy Newt Gingrich (who would be at the top of the polls if he entered) has also been married three times, cheated on his first two wives, is married to his mistress from his second wife, married his high school math teacher when he was 18 and she was 26, gave divorce papers to his first wife while she was in a hospital bed with cancer while his daughters were in the room, and was meeting his mistress (23 yrs younger than him) at a hotel at the same time he was working on trying to impeach Clinton. Does any of this get covered? Um...maybe my tv has a filter on it because I haven't seen this discussed.
The GOP candidates so far are morally bankrupt. The only one who has been married once is the MORMON!
I should have said the "GOP frontrunners", not candidates. Some of the lesser known guys like Brownback have only been married once.
When McCain decided to kiss the backside if the Falwell brigade, he lost any hope of being considered moderate.
Or of having convictions.
George Bush has convictions.
They're for DUI, but convictions nonetheless...