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Larry King falsely said Giuliani has "always been pro-choice"

February 15, 2007 5:34 pm ET

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On the February 14 edition of CNN's Larry King Live, host Larry King told former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R): "I know you're pro-choice. You've always been pro-choice." Giuliani replied, "I am." However, as Media Matters for America noted, Giuliani began his 1989 mayoral campaign an opponent of Roe v. Wade and abortion rights.

Newsday reported on February 22, 1989, that leaders of New York's Conservative Party said Giuliani "assured them he was personally opposed to abortion, did not favor government funding or criminal penalties, did favor an exemption in cases of rape or incest, and was in favor of overturning the U.S. Supreme Court's decision legalizing abortion, Roe v. Wade." In an April 9, 1989, New York Times article, Giuliani was quoted as saying, ''I have indicated in the past that as a lawyer, and also for religious reasons, I would be opposed to Roe against Wade. ... That, however, is not something that would come before me as mayor.'' However, Giuliani reportedly shifted his position nearer to Election Day. In an October 13, 1989, article, the Associated Press explained: "Once an outright opponent, [Giuliani] now says he supports abortion rights, and would not seek to reduce funds or services, even though he remains personally opposed."

In an April 6, 1989, article, The New York Times called Giuliani's abortion position "flexible," noting that Giuliani was both "opposed to abortion and even the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision" and had "tempered his abortion position so that it is similar to that of other prominent New York Catholic politicians, like Gov. Mario M. Cuomo. But Giuliani does not always shift like that, because he wants to appeal to Republicans as well as Democrats."

A leaked 1993 "Rudolph W. Giuliani Vulnerability Study" similarly acknowledged that Giuliani was inconsistent in his position on abortion rights. The 1993 "Vulnerability Study" was, as the New York Daily News reported, written by "two Giuliani advisers [who] wrote frankly about how parts of Giuliani's past could come back to haunt him -- from the 'weirdness factor' of his first marriage to his second cousin, to his draft history during the Vietnam War, to his work as assistant attorney general in Reagan's Justice Department." The study warned that Giuliani "is vulnerable on ... his flip-flops on various issues [and] the reversals of many of his major convictions" and also that "Giuliani's lack of consistency on major issues, like abortion, also reinforced criticism that he would do anything to get himself elected." The study could only say that Giuliani "has been consistently pro-choice for at least four years."

From the February 14 edition of CNN's Larry King Live:

KING: Let's move to some things domestic. You've had some quotes lately that -- that seem contradictory.

I know you're pro-choice. You've always been pro-choice.

GIULIANI: I am.

KING: Yet you'll say you'll appoint judges who are strict constructionists. If that's the case, they're going to vote to overturn Roe versus Wade, which you don't want.

GIULIANI: I don't know that. You don't know that.

KING: Well, what is strict constructionist?

GIULIANI: Well, OK, there are a lot of ways to explain that. I mean --

KING: Do you still favor Roe versus Wade?

GIULIANI: I am pro-choice, yeah. But I -- I'm also, as you know -- always have been -- against abortion, hate abortion, don't like it, wouldn't personally advise anyone to have an abortion and -- but I believe a woman has a right to choose. And you can't have criminal penalties, and I think that would be wrong.

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    • Author by jeter2 (February 15, 2007 5:36 pm ET)
         

      Is Larry King still alive?

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      • Author by rusty shackleford (February 15, 2007 5:51 pm ET)
           

        I think he's a robot like in the Hall of Presidents at Disneyland.

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      • Author by greekfurnace (February 16, 2007 10:57 am ET)
           

        Second that... He don't look so good. He must be pushing 100.

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      • Author by worrierking (February 16, 2007 11:49 am ET)
           

        Off topic, as usual, but interesting item about Larry King, the "movie quote whore".

         

        http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/02/14/larry-king-movie-quote-whore/ 

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    • Author by ldoren1626 (February 15, 2007 5:42 pm ET)
         

      He HAS always been pro-choice.

      I'm pro-choice w/ limits and against Roe v. Wade, b/c the decision was poorly reasoned.

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      • Author by evillib1727 (February 15, 2007 6:00 pm ET)
           

        I feel similar. I feel there should be more limits on it. The hypocrisy from those that are anti-war because people die, but are pro-choice without limits is disgusting. 

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        • Author by valentinian (February 15, 2007 7:43 pm ET)
             

          More limits such as what? Who are the people who want abortion "without limits?" Is there a large contingent of people calling for full-term, third trimester abortion on demand, these "disgusting" "hypocrites" of which you speak?

          Or are they all out protecting fields of corn? 

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          • Author by ldoren1626 (February 15, 2007 8:59 pm ET)
               

            Parental Consent mandatory.

            No abortions in the third trimester.

            Those are the limits.  Other than that...it is ambiguous whether there is a human life being taken, so I defer to the individual.

            But...Roe v. Wade was still a poorly reasoned decision.

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            • Author by rusty shackleford (February 16, 2007 10:14 am ET)
                 

              In most jurisdictions I think the situation is exactly how you want it.

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              • Author by open_mind (February 16, 2007 3:30 pm ET)
                   

                I just found out from my brother yesterday about how 20 years ago, one of his friends had an underage back-room abortion at 14 or 15.  They botched the job and now this girl has complications and doesn't know if she could have kids if she wanted them.

                I asked my brother why she had a back-alley abortion and he told me about her alcoholic father that kicked the crap out of her often and how he suspected the father abused her sexually.  The girl was too terrified to go to her parents and too young to get an abortion at a clinic without parental consent.

                Even parental notification laws that have some supposed safeguards like judicial exceptions can be well-meaning, but cause much harm to women in the end.

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    • Author by tommy (February 15, 2007 5:46 pm ET)
         

      Poor Larry, give the old guy a break.  He's like 137 years old and can barely remember the order of the CNN initials anymore.  If he distributes misinformation or ANY information, we should say "Good job!"

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    • Author by njguy93 (February 15, 2007 5:49 pm ET)
         

      Larry King has outlived his usefulness.  He is an old man who needs to be put to sleep.  His questions are already written out for him and he usually just literally reads them out like a robot.  He should have been off the air years ago.  He is an antiquated human being.  He should be replaced by someone like Joe Conason who could have a Keith Olbermann style program.  If there is any person in the universe who is more useless than George Bush, it is Larry King, and maybe a few others.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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      • Author by DorisRussell (February 15, 2007 6:22 pm ET)
           

        NJ Guy , Larry King is a decent human being .

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        • Author by tommy (February 15, 2007 6:24 pm ET)
             

          Actually, I heard he is a bit of a jerk.  But I don't think he should be put to sleep.

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          • Author by DorisRussell (February 15, 2007 6:28 pm ET)
               

            I was reacting to "he needs to be put to sleep". From what I read he is a nice man, but regardless he does not need to be "put to sleep". Some respect to our elderly please NJ Guy?

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      • Author by fkfhfgjhgyh (February 15, 2007 6:32 pm ET)
           

        "...put to sleep"

        -----  That attitude can lead to genocide.

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      • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (February 15, 2007 11:38 pm ET)
           

        Larry King has outlived his usefulness.  He is an old man who needs to be put to sleep. (NJGuy)

        Wow NJGuy, for a cat who's polite enough to sign off every post with "Thank You", you surer went all hardcore on Larry "the lizard" King.

        I'm not saying I disagree with you, just didn't expect it from my "good manners role model" on MMFA. ;0D

        Oh, almost forgot;

        F*ck you, HBL

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        • Author by njguy93 (February 16, 2007 12:21 pm ET)
             

          I was being sarcastic, guys.  Sorry if I offended anyone.  Larry King is probably overall a nice guy and I obviously do not feel that he needs to be put to sleep.  However, I do feel its time for him to go.  We need a fresh face on CNN.  Conason would be great.  He was actually a candidate to be Hannity's co-host on FOX NEWS CHANNEL, but he was too aggressive, and they needed a milquetoast who would provide the facade of a balanced out show but who would ultimately be Hannity's punching bag, so they got Alan Colmes instead.  HuntingtonBeachLefty, I hope I'm still your good manners role model here.

          THANK YOU.

          njguy93@yahoo.com

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          • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (February 16, 2007 2:06 pm ET)
               

            Of Course you are, NJGuy.I'm just trying to provide a balance to your politeness.

            F*ck you, HuntingtonBeachLefty

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    • Author by chrisgodawgs (February 16, 2007 2:03 am ET)
         

      Giuliani cheated on his first two wives, one of whom was his second cousin.  He is now married for the third time.  So is Newt, who also cheated on his first two wives, the first of whom was his high school math teacher who he married when he turned 18.  McCain cheated on his first wife and married his mistress Cindy, who is his sugar mama, as she was an heiress to a beer fortune and inherited $27 million.  It is going to be hard for the GOP to say they vote on family values this election. 

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    • Author by njguy93 (February 16, 2007 12:23 pm ET)
         

      I was being sarcastic, guys.  Sorry if I offended anyone.  Larry King is probably overall a nice guy and I obviously do not feel that he needs to be put to sleep.  However, I do feel its time for him to go.  We need a fresh face on CNN.  Conason would be great.  He was actually a candidate to be Hannity's co-host on FOX NEWS CHANNEL, but he was too aggressive, and they needed a milquetoast who would provide the facade of a balanced out show but who would ultimately be Hannity's punching bag, so they got Alan Colmes instead.  HuntingtonBeachLefty, I hope I'm still your good manners role model here.

      THANK YOU.

      njguy93@yahoo.com

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