Claiming his child-abduction comments were taken "out of context," O'Reilly lashed out at "far-left loons"
On the February 22 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly discussed his February 20 appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show and, in an apparent reference to Media Matters for America and others who highlighted his comments about an abducted child, said that "the far-left loons who took my analysis out of context are despicable." He also claimed that his reporting on the case "has been dead-on accurate" and asserted: "These vile individuals who have attacked us are doing so for political reasons, and I condemn them in the strongest terms."
O'Reilly appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show to discuss child molestation. During his appearance, Winfrey noted that O'Reilly had speculated why Shawn Hornbeck -- a boy who was abducted and held for four years before he was found by police in Missouri -- did not flee, but ignored O'Reilly's claim that "there was an element here that this kid liked about his circumstances" and that "[t]he situation here for this kid looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his old parents." Media Matters originally noted O'Reilly's comments about Hornbeck in a January 17 item that included a lengthy transcript and video clip from O'Reilly's show.
Additionally, Winfrey made no mention the decision by the Collier County, Florida, branch of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children to replace O'Reilly as keynote speaker of a fundraising event, as Media Matters also noted.
From the February 22 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: Hi. I'm Bill O'Reilly, reporting tonight from Los Angeles. Thank you for watching us. There have been a couple of rulings in this never-ending Anna Nicole Smith situation. We'll have that for you in a few moments.
But first, Oprah and the kids, part two. That's the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo." Big reaction to my appearance on the Oprah program yesterday. Most of the letters were very kind. Most of the folks get the fact that all decent people have to rally against child predators and those who protect them.
I also made an appeal on the Oprah program for fathers to constantly tell their children they'll protect them; that they are their champions. I got this letter from Johnny Knight who lives in Illinois.
"O'Reilly, I took your advice and explained to my 8-year-old that I will protect her no matter what happens. After I was finished, she told me I was her champion."
Well, way to go, Johnny. And I believe many fathers did exactly the same thing. But I also received this letter from Heather Tashjian, who lives in Burbank, California.
"Bill, loved you on Oprah, but you got hammered on some chat boards. They say you owe Shawn Hornbeck an apology for insinuating he wanted to stay with his abductor. What say you?"
Well, Heather, I say the far-left loons who took my analysis out of context are despicable. These people haven't done a single thing to protect kids from danger in this country. Our reporting on the Hornbeck case has been dead-on accurate.
We have introduced Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome to a world that badly needs to understand that concept. These vile individuals who have attacked us are doing so for political reasons, and I condemn them in the strongest terms.
We were also attacked by Vermont State Senator Dick Sears in the ultra-left Bennington Banner. Mr. Sears contends that Vermont's law -- a mandatory five-year sentence for violent child predators -- is tough. OK, I'm ready to listen to Mr. Sears' point of view. We've invited him to appear tomorrow, and we'll let you know what happens.
"Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome "
You mean Stockholm syndrome, right???????
Again he did not address his actual comments and how he was taken out of context. He said what he said and the fact that he doesn't own up to it just proves he's a bigger Jacka$$ than I originally thought.
Clearly not, since O'Reilly has stated that Stockholm Syndrome does not exist.
Oh....I see Stockholm syndrome does not exist, but he makes up a practically identical sndrome, renames it and reports it as a fact. Way to go Bill, I was wrong about you you are a good man and a good American and I would be proud to shake hand (with a stink palm*).
*Mallrats reference.
He probably saw an article about Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome in the Paris Business Review.
O'REILLY: "Hi. I'm Bill O'Reilly, reporting tonight from Los Angeles. Thank you for watching us. There have been a couple of rulings in this never-ending Anna Nicole Smith situation. We'll have that for you in a few moments."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh Billo, you serious journalist you.
Someone on the original thread predicted this would happen; how did they know?
Well, I was one of them who did I think, and well i did something that is taboo for republic's and observed, remembered what I observed and thought about it in a rational manner. All of the preceeding of course proves i hate God or something to those types of folks for some reason...
Off hand, I'd say they knew it would happen because Billy-boy is such a predictable S.O.B.
Far Left Loons like the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Seriously, O'Reilly is well past his Sell-By date.
He's a classic narcissist. Entitled, no empathy, self-important
Bill's Disease ... Perfect for Fox.
Easy there , Greekfurnace,
Don't make BilldO come down there and do a "factor investigation" on your arse.
Or Boycott you.
That's true... could have a "War on the Furnace" on my hands. He might boycott feta cheese or something.
Oh you two are just ever so snarky!
I like it, and Bull deserves every bit of it :)
I know that this thread will be soon be filled with comments about all of the good things O'Reilly has done to protect our kids. But if he were as serious as he wants us to believe, he would drop all of the "far left loon' BS and concentrate more on the welfare of children.
Until he stops conflating the two, I don't believe a word he says. He's more interested in promoting his political agenda.
Exactly....
Hey Bill I like hanging out here with these vile far left loons.
Do ya think I don't flee because there's an element here that I like about my circumstances? That it's a lot more fun here than at some Far-Right forum?
Bill is clearly on the defensive lately. He doesn't like someone monitoring his remarks...cause they inevitably come back to bite him.
O'Reilly was on top of the world a few years back. How the mighty have fallen.
Hey Bill BTW I watch Keith now :-O
If you're not careful you'll start voting Democratic, and become treasonist like the rest of us ;-)
You know what Rick me voting for a Democrat in '08 for President is not that far-fetched of an idea. I'm not impressed at all with what the Republicans are offering thus far. Now IF Hagel got into the race I'd be interested.
I'm not sold on any of the Democrats at the moment either, BUT when compared to McCain, Giuliani or Romney they are a lot more impressive. I'm willing to hear what they have to say.
* stage whisper* (excellent... the subliminal America-hating posts are infecting Jeter. heh heh heh.)
Must...Stay...Strong...Fight...Subversive...Influence
Sending an SOS to Bill..Rush..Sean..Ann..Glen..anyone?
Have a good weekend Beach :-)
You too, Jeter.Swing by a John Birch meeting or something, get yer antibodies up.
P.S. Jeter, predicted thunderstorms here replaced by 85 and clear, my bike ride this afternoon confirms the Grey Whales are swimming to Baja to get freaky, and the girls 20 years younger than I am are violating Geneva Conventions with their lack of clothes.
Also, the Yankees suck. Now come back a little meaner. ;o)
"These vile individuals who have attacked us are doing so for political reasons..."
And you've NEVER done the same thing have you, Mr. T-Warrior?
Oh, and what's up with him saying "us"?
Is he trying to spread the blame to his team of research chimpanzees?
Probably just a variant of the "royal we."
The "us" is probably Bill, Cavuto and the life-size, inflatable "Hooters" doll in the engineer's closet.
here ya go:
http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/21/54
Your point?
Holy Smokes! Look at #8!
"Sexual difficulties such as fear of sex or intimacy, indiscriminate multiple sex partners or difficulty in reaching orgasm."
THANKS BILL! I WILL HAVE TO GET RID OF ALL MY MULTIPLE SEX PARTNERS AND THEN I CAN BE A RED HOT T WARRIOR TOO!
Anyone want to buy a Luffa? I can make you a pretty good deal....
...is usually hidden by his hat.
O'Reilly's crusade against child predators is a charade, and I'm sure he's livid about the exposure garnered by his outrageous, insensitive comments concerning Hornbeck. He knows the Iraq debate is lost, and now he's in danger of losing on this subject. So down his memory hole it goes.
This is the typical response from O'Reilly and others clowns like him. Everything is "taken out of context." They almost never explain how it is "taken out of context", and the few times that they do, it is usually a dishonest and senseless explanation. Also, he is again going at it with his "far-left loon" labels towards anyone who calls him out on his stinking garbage. He knows nothing was taken out of context, he knows that people calling him out are not far-left loons, and he knows that the Stockholm Syndrome analysis is at least partially correct. He is just doing CYA with his diagnosis of the other syndrome and with his excuses.
THANK YOU.
njguy93@yahoo.com
To be fair to Bill, Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome is a recognized syndrome in the medical literature. Unfortunately Bill does not explain why a number of its characteristics, especially the portion dealing with Entrapment and Accommodation, sound a lot like Stockholme Syndrome, which Bill rejected out of hand. (Link and excerpt below.) Why Bill feels that CSAAS is a concept that the world "badly needs to understand," but shows derision for a similar syndrome seems odd to say the least.
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume10/j10_2.htm
Entrapment and Accommodation
Assuming the abuser is not caught in the first act of abuse, the abuse will continue because the child feels helpless to stop it and will keep the secret. Therefore, the child has to find a way to adapt to this situation. Summit states that the child can enter altered states of consciousness, escape into her own mind, enter a state of dissociation when the abuse occurs, or even create dual personalities in which different feelings of rage and love are displaced. The child, unable to see the abuser as evil, may blame herself for the abuse. She reasons that, "If daddy is not evil then I must be bad."
We will not be fair to Bill until he apologizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact the only 'fair' thing at this point is for bill to be off the air. Sure would improve American discourse as well as politics.
Who's not being fair to Bill?
I haven't looked back through the chain of articles about this particular issue, but MMFA doesn't say in this article at least that the syndrome cited doesn't exist. I realize a poster here has. I personally don't know one way or the other if it does. (I couldn't find it on Wikipedia, and god knows Wikipedia knows EVERYthing. =)
It does exist, but Bill didn't know about it until one of his guests brought it up AFTER he had made the "fun" comments. Clearly, Billo jumped all over the idea of the syndrome as a way to excuse his pervious comments. It's pretty transparent if you go back and look at the timeline of his coverage of the story (not that I'd recommend you wasting your time like that).
Hey Clams- did you deliberately write "pervious". or are you just effortlessly that funny? Freud's smiling.
Clams: That was my point exactly. I presented the information on the syndrome that O'Reilly mentioned simply because there was some speculation earlier in the thread that O'Reilly made it up whole cloth (not that I'd put such a thing past him). There is a tradition in conservatism that poo-poos psychology going way back, especially when it explains human frailty such as that exhibited in Stockholme Syndrome. I believe it was this attitude on display when O'Reilly was dismissing the afore mentioned syndrome (plus Patty Hearst had it!), but once O'Reilly started taking flack he jumped to a similar syndrome as a shield. I absolutely agree that O'Reilly owes an apology but I'm not holding my breath untill he gives it.
O'REILLY- APOLOGIZE NOW!!!
Just say you are sorry to Shawn, not even to us far left loons. That child deserves an apology from you. It was so deplorable how you and that fat A*s Oprah were buddy buddy yesterday. Oprah and you should be sentenced to live the life of Shawn for just a day with that psycho Devlin.
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think it's necessary to attack Oprah on her looks. She's a decent woman who made an irresponsible choice of guest on her program. She doesn't deserve the rest of your harshness.
Come on Evil!
There is nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion on the topic, I for one support Oprah 100%. But there is no reason to attack her physical features and wish torture on her. This is a women who was abused as a child. You need to apologize to Oprah. You want to spew hate toward BO, thats fine, that is normal on this site.
Exactlly HOW could what he said have been taken out of context or the context change the insensativity of what he said unless he preceded it by saying I would have to be a world class jerk to say....
My favorite line: "We were also attacked by Vermont State Senator Dick Sears in the ultra-left Bennington Banner."
What is ultra-left to you, Bill? You host far right winger Tammy Bruce on your show as a liberal progressive. By that scale, Joe Lieberman is hard left.
He also didn't really say "how" he was attacked by this guy from Vermont. What did he attack him on? What he said? That's not attacking, it's called critiquing, maybe, I don't know, didn't hear the other guy's comments about Bill O'. But attacking is what Bill old boy does best, as that is all that he has now. He was and is a one trick pony playing the part of the beat down, the downtrodden, the common man being oppressed by "the man". What a joke this guy is. He's becoming a cariacature of even himself.
That would be funny were it not that Lieberman is repeatedly held up as an example of how Democrats and Liberals feel about, say, the War on Iraq.
"Dead on accurate." He again is reinforcing his NAMBLA-supporting statements and is totally without a conscience. I would never let a child I know be unsupervised in his presence.
Why not? I'm sure the child would love it. In fact, a little boy would probably prefer Daddy Bill-oh to his "old parents."
Aha! I see now. Saying Shawn enjoyed his stay with his kiddnapper and molester is a SYNDROME now? Child Sexual Abuse Accomidation Syndrome is no cover for this charlitan's foul words.
All good and civilized people should shun this pariah like he deserves, sick, twisted, sexual harrasing individual that he is.
Despicable...? Vile...?
You know, we enjoy ourselves here excoriating right wing nut jobs... often in terms that we might not use in person at a public forum. We can get away with it because we're anonymous... and it's fun. I certainly make no apologies... However, how could any sane, rational person who professes to be an authentic journalist, and with a viewing audience of literally millions of people, conduct himself the way O'Reilly does with his paranoid, name-calling tirades? Can you picture Walter Cronkite or Edward R. Murrow calling a polite, intelligent young woman being interviewed a lunatic to her face in a live broadcast because they disagreed with her anti-war protest? Can you picture any legitimate journalist attacking people the way the obviously thin-skinned O'Reilly does for his own personal agenda? Does Bill O'Reilly even know how to behave in public?
Personally, I think Bill O'Reilly must have had a troubled childhood...
What is Bill's motivation for denying Stokholm Syndrome? We need to figure that out.
Maybe BilldO's an old hippie that Fox security abducted and forced to work on the factor after years of brainwashing and torture.He subconsciously is aware of his situation,but his tough-guy facade won't allow him to come to grips with his syndrome, which would involve admitting defeat.
Besides, he watches himself on TV, and he likes the cut of his own jib.
i thought the 'cut of his jib' was a tweety special...
Jibs are very trendy right now,.
They have replaced the package-enhancing flightsuit.
BillO does analysis and reporting??!!
Remeber when O'Reilly and Hannity took John Kerry's comments out of text, they didn't seem to care one bit. The problem for Bill is we have blogs like C&L and Media Matters to put his clips on the internet to show what he really says. Please watch my video at you tube on O'Reilly lying to Oprah on her show, i mean lying to her viewers, i think Oprah new exactly what he said and let him get away with changing his story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6j3CeDqx74
Corrections:I need my spell check that would be remember and knew, sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6j3CeDqx74
Nice work, SBrown. I see these things days apart, I'm glad others have the time and technical ability to make the BS this obvious, Thanks.
O'Reilley is dangerous.... to society and children
I don't know how many listen or watch him anymore. I can safely say I've NEVER seen the level of hate and misinformation that comes out of that excuse for a man.
What nonsense he's claiming the "lest" are out to get him on this. Please. Her should go to the Oprah web site and read the hundreds of pasts by individuals who have been abused and are angry and struggling with Oprah's collosal mistake of having him on her show as a spokesperson for abuse.
His word were not taken out of context- those are his words, his head, his mouth, telling Greta that Shawn "liked" it- discounting the "Stockholm Syndrome>"
It's maddening that he presents himself as some kind of expert, and now he's telling fathers to be their children's "champions". What an idiot. Child safety against predators has been in existence for decades now.
Dads aren't there when there kids are riding bikes down the road, waiting for a bus, or walking down the street. My gawd. The man's arrogance knows no bounds. Of course EVERY parent who them-self is not a predator ( and the MAJORITY of kids are abused by a close family member or friend) educate their children about staying safe. Mothers and fathers are champion's of their children, as are aunts and uncles, grandparents, etc.
O'Reilley makes me want to projectile vomit.. on him.
He has no one to blame but himself- for his crass, ignorant, and harmful remarks.
Yes, he woes Shawn Hornbeck and apology and EVERY child and adult who has been a victim of abuse. And Oprah of all people should have demanded it.
It'll never happen though.
Now he's twisting in the wind, while twisting what he said and did.
I guess the only thing that will stop him from inflicting his madness over the free airwaves, is for viewers and listeners to tune him out, shut him off.
Faux News apparently is incapable of firing him, even when he demeans the 11 year old child Shawn Hornbeck was when he was brutally abducted and forced to live years of horror.
O'Reiley gives new meaning to the word- CREEP.
Is Accountability a Left Loon value?
I guess the thing that really makes me angry abut BO is that he's NEVVER accountable. This situation with what he said about Shawn Hornbeck should be the proverbial "strew that breaks the camel's back".
Yes, he did say it was more "fun" for Shawn to be hold captive by a perverted psychopath. This is the man who took on his pseudo cause in his "I'm looking out for you" everyman disguise and literally rants and raves against judges and states who he claims don't hold criminals ACCOUNTABLE for their horrendous actions.
There is not a bigger hypocrite on the airwaves. It makes me shudder to think ANYONE would support his madness.
billo is very inconsistent on a consistent basis. nothing he says is worth taking seriously. he never served, but somehow he's a combat vet. he says one day there's no such thing as stockholm syndrome in kids and then says that he is responsible for introducing the public to "child abuse accomodation syndrome" the next. the only purpose he and all the fox yellow elephants, stay home jodios and stateside patriots serve is as punching bags for ko. keep it up billo and fox noise! oh, did i mention hannity, the ultimate continental commando? cowards one and all at fox noise
Once again, O'Reilly uses the misnomer to describe more progressive leaning activists of "far-left". Beyond this, he offers no support for the claim that people of such opinions offer no help or preventative measures for victimized children. This is certainly a stretch. Reform liberals and progressives want to "progress" the quality of life and welfare of society. They are not simply politically motivated for no reason. I doubt it is the case that such people are not interested in stopping child abduction. Beyond this point. O'Reilly says that the law needs to be utilized in stopping such crime s by giving manditory life sentences for such offenses. As a criminology student, I can tell you that deterrence does not work for such crimes, especially when the offender has personality disorders, such as psychopathy. We need to attack these social ills at their source, and not just respond to problems by incarcerating cons. Finally, if the penalty is going to be life (25 years) should we not raise the minimum sentence for first degree murder in order to socially express that murder is the most evil crime? Don't get me wrong. Sexual assault is one of the most terrible kinds of acts, but people are constantly murdered, and this ought to get the same degree if not more attention.
Well, Heather, I say the far-left loons who took my analysis out of context are despicable.
If speculating that a kidnapped child was having more fun being kidnapped than in school qualifies as analysis then every off the cuff remark ever uttered in history also qualifies, even that time I speculated the Tuesday night beef stroganoff at the U of I dorms was in fact boiled dog s**t.
Bill will say anything to cast himself as a victim, while a REAL victim doesn't get the benefit of even being a victim, just a kid off on a happy-go-lucky frolic with a pedophile.
I speculate that Bill is not a human, but a member of an invader species put on Earth to lower the standards.
Did anyone see Billy o'boy on 60 Minutes, this past Sunday?
OMFGD,MF (there are a few more letters in there, but I think you get the point).
What is CBS doing? I would have hit him hard, and left him standing there scared and confused. It was such a light weight interview.
Yes they brought up his lies, even the incident with Al Frankin. And stated out right that he lied, but left it pretty much at that, even allowing him to go on a mini-rant. (Poor, me, if only those evil liberals would stop pointing out my lies and missinformation, they hate me!!!)
The scary part was my husband walked downstairs (we were watching the same thing on different tv's (how American can you get?)) and said, "Bill O'Rielly isn't that bad. He's opinionated, but not really that bad."
I nearly had a stroke right there. I rambled off the top ten things Bi-o'rielly has said or done that I could remember. Hopefully I pulled him out of that mire.
Bill O'Lielly reaped what he sewed, if I may was Biblical.
I'd read my Bible more, but my fingers keep slipping off.
If I may waX Biblical.
O'Lielly is confusing "Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome," in which a victim of sexual abuse is pressured into retracting statements (usually by way of threats) with Stockholm Syndrome, in which the abducted person identifies with the abductor and becomes enthralled. See, Billy-boy can't even get his syndromes right! He's a complete idiot who knows nothing, yet is given a voice on television and radio. That's because, being an ignoramus with a penchant for lying, he is the perfect disinformation tool for the Bush Propaganda Ministry (aka Fox Noise Channel).